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This page is for the community review of new guides. This is so the [[Guides]] page does not get filled up with nonsensical guides (like it was at one point,) and that their is a minimum standard of quality on the [[Guides]] page. Guides which pass this review have a template added to the page ({{[[Template:GuideReviewed|GuideReviewed]]}}) and featured guides will have {{[[Template:FeaturedGuide|FeaturedGuide]]}} added to the page. Guides which do not pass a community review will not be added to the [[Guides]] page, but may still carry [[[[:Category:Guides]]]]. This is so that guides that are deemed good and worthy by the community are easily findable by newer players, while less accurate guides can still be found, but aren't presented as prominently. 

Guides are reviewed through a voting process. There are three eligible votes:
*'''Support''' - to indicate support for the guide's inclusion on the page
*'''Abstain''' - to not formally vote, but still offer input on the discussion
*'''Against''' - to indicate disapproval for the guide's inclusion on the page 

After two weeks, the votes will be tallied. 
*A guide which has more than 75% '''Support''' will be placed at a "Featured Guides" section at the top of the guides page
*A guide which has more than 50% '''Support''' will be placed on the page, in the appropriate section (survivor, zombie, or player killer.)
*A guide which has less than or equal to 50% '''Support''' will not be placed on the page
*Guides which don't attract any votes will not be placed on the page

General criteria which should be considered before a guide is included on the page are:
#'''Formatting''' - ''There must be no obvious formatting errors in the text. The guide must work in all major browsers''
#'''Accuracy''' - ''The guide must be accurate''
#'''Clarity''' - ''The guide must be easy to read, with no obvious spelling or grammar errors.''

''<big>If you are writing a guide and want feedback before taking it to review, please read the '''[[Developing Guides]]''' page.</big>''

Please note that neutrality and civility are '''not requirements'''.

==Voting==
<!---Please add ''There are no guides currently under voting'' when cycling the last guide. --->
''Please add'' {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{Guidesvoting}}</nowiki>}} ''on the guide before nominating it. Please inform the author if they are still active and can easily be found.''

'''[[Talk:Guides#A_few_more_things|Shameless advertising for this discussion]]''' {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:20, 19 July 2009 (BST)



==Recent Nominations==

===[[User:Winman1/Why zombies have an advantage]]===
--[[User:Winman1|Winman1]] 00:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

'''For'''
# I'm voting for my own guide--[[User:Winman1|Winman1]] 00:39, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
'''Against'''
# Most of your points are either heavily opinionated, based off of personal experience, or rely on fallicious logic. The article reads as an anti-zombie rant; it bears little resemblance to a guide.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 00:54, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
#Giant fucking against. Are we playing the same game? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
#Holy shit man, no offense, but wow. Ruins are an advantage to Zombies? Make it so you can't freerun out of them and MAYBE they might actually be worth creating. I could go on, but damn, just no.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>01:02 6 December 2009(BST)</tt>
#No way. The logic is off, the arguments are incorrect, and it would only serve to misdirect new players. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
#How is this even a guide? There are so many things wrong with it if it were were. True zombies start out with Vigour Mortis, and they are able to attack barricades, but how can they get inside without memories of life? This "guide" is just terrible.--[[User:Zaphord|Zaphord]] 01:51, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
'''Abstain'''
# Massively, I may write a counterpoint to this. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 00:51, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

===[[User:Winman1/The seasoned stratagist]]===

My UD game profile 
http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1602460

A guide for survivors. (I don't really know that much about the wiki so move this to wherever  its supposed to be if its not in the right place.) Its best to read the entire guide.

--[[User:Winman1|Winman1]] 23:42, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:Where it is right now is quite alright, don't worry. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::He should worry, I'm about to vote and take this apart. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 00:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
'''For'''
#I'm voting for my own guide...obviously--[[User:Winman1|Winman1]] 02:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
#It's ok.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>07:48 10 November 2009(BST)</tt>
'''Against'''
#Let's begin:
#:*''"Formatting - There must be no obvious formatting errors in the text. The guide must work in all major browsers.'' - Someone with other browsers can confirm this, however it does just turn into a mass of endless black and white hypnosis towards the middle.
#:*''"Accuracy - The guide must be accurate."'' - It's not. I'll explain later.
#:*''"Clarity - The guide must be easy to read, with no obvious spelling or grammar errors."'' - What do the following 'words' have in common? "stratagist", "Meatsheilding", "bu" and "alot". And that's before I get onto the grammar...
#:*''"since combat is what this game is built around"'' - No, it isn't. Take off your trenchcoat, grow up and learn something.
#:*''"zombies are actually the dominating faction"'' - The stats page disagrees with you. 
#:*''"A few players advocate combat reviving to use against zombies, hoping they will decide to play survivor for an extended period of time. Combat reviving is based around that core idea which rarely works."'' - This line proves how truly stupid you are, go talk to [[The Big Prick]] or [[404]] and ask them if they combat revive so that zombies 'rediscover their humanity and learn the error of their ways'. It's got nothing to do with it, people should be intelligent enough to understand this before they write guides to try and instruct other players.
#:*''"Right now the horde seems to be moving southwest"'' - The horde? ''The'' horde? Like singular? We only have one?
#:*''"Binoculars and necrotech scans are your best friends."'' - No, they aren't.
#:*''"First, you must secure (secure means light and barricade to a proficient amount ) factories to acquire a decent generator source."'' - No, needle barns come first, they're the easiest building to defend and allow your group to replace casualties and soak massive amounts of opposition AP.
#:*''"Go to the zombie group's forum saying "I found this bunch of survivors hiding in (whatever the place is you plan to lure them to.)"'' - In the meta we have a word for this. That word is cheating. Impersonating someone to deceive is just as bad as impersonation to gain information.
#:*''"In any outcome zombies will be dazed at their loss, or surprised of survivor coordination, zombies will be slightly more careful when taking any information of survivors fearing it may be another ambush."'' - Never played as a zombie have you? Didn't think so. I love being told what my side will do by ignorant trenchies.
#:*''"Groups with these people use the hit and run tactic. "'' - Groups with these people die and become mrh? cows.
#:*''"Obviously zombies are watching survivor radio frequencies"'' - Obviously, not.
#:*''"Know the zombie, trick the zombie"'' - Yet you yourself don't 'know the zombie'.
#:That's the ''initial'' pass at your 'guide'. To say it sucks would be offensive to catholic school girls (who do indeed suck). I wrote [[User:Iscariot/No More Heroes|this]] for people like you, or idiots as I tend to call them. The very best thing you can do with your guide that will help survivors, yourself and the quality of this wiki is to go [[A/SD|here]], place a link to your guide followed by the words "Crit Seven" and then your signature. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 01:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
#As above--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 02:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
#I am afraid this really is not a very well written guide. First, the grammar is rather hard to follow. There are many run-on sentences and fragments, which, combined with several minor spelling errors, make the guide appear rather unprofessional and difficult to read. Make sure to run your guide through a spell checker for errors, and read it aloud, so you can hear if it makes sense.
#:Second, the advice goes against many accepted beliefs. The propaganda section is highly misleading- broadcasting anti-zombie slurs is generally considered spam, while spreading misinformation on opposing forums is considered a rude and underhanded tactic. Both behaviors demonstrate highly unsportsman-like attitudes. Furthermore, the tactics section is confusing to read and shows an incomplete understanding of the game. Luring zombies seldom works in practice, and attacking zombies outside is viewed by the survivor population as pointless, with the exception of gathering XP. The section on reclaiming buildings is also misleading and unclear- zombies inside of a building can drastically reduce the success rate of barricading, and you are vague on when it is appropriate to attack zombies.
#:In its current state, this guide is both difficult to read and misleading in its advice. Read up on the wide array of survivor tactics, become knowledgeable in the nuances of the game, and collaborate with other users ([[Developing Guides]]) in order to insure high quality and accuracy. Do those and you will greatly increase the quality of the guide.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 02:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC) 
# Rule number one "1. Win All Without Fighting",  "luring tactic", and "Knowing the Zombies" seem to contradict each other making the guide confusing, along with the grammar and errors stated above.--[[User:Zaphord|Zaphord]] 03:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
# As Iscariot. And thanks for providing the detailed post... saved me the effort of trying to read that whole thing and create one of my own. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 08:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
# As above. Also, the phrase "''Right now the horde seems to be moving southwest, so any south westerners should prepare''" is rather inaccurate and would quickly become out of date. [[User:Chief Seagull|Chief Seagull]] 10:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
# As [[User:Red Hawk One|Red Hawk]].  I can't support forum spying as a tactic.  And I don't think "luring" zombies to your safehouse and then "ambushing" them in real-time would actually work.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 12:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
# As some of Iscariots points which prove this as trenchie garbage. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 13:35, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
# As above. --{{User:Grungni/sig}} 15:33, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
# Generally bad. Says not to combat revive, then lists the pros of combat reviving as cons. Advocates sinister tactics and generally being a dick.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 20:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
# [[Developing Guides]] and I'm here if anyone has any [[404]] questions they want to ask. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
# Crap guide with silly ideas and bad tactics. "Monitoring major zombie group's pages and forums care vital to predict zombie movements" is legit: if it's on a public forum, it's fair use in-game. Advising one to impersonate a zombie player on a forum is another thing entirely: it's called cheating. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 08:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
# Absolutely no redeeming factor, as was laid about above. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 22:08, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
# Oh lawdy. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 05:03, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
# Utter shit. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 06:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
# Alright let's see if I have wiki format down yet.  This guide violates the one thing that survivors need to do, ''survive''.  I'm not going to be redundant with 'unsportsmantlike conduct' or 'trenchcoater' comments.  Iscariot rode those to the gates of Hell and back.  Remember though that a  survivor is meant to survive, staging massive (and suicidal) offensive tactics does no one any favors. The zeds get back up, and you have a few extra teeth marks for your troubles. --[[User:St. Faux|St. Faux]]
#Weak guide over common knowledge.  {{User:Criminally Insane/supastampbiatch}} 11:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
'''Abstain'''
#:{{s|1=seems ok.--[[User:Shut up noob|Shut up noob]] 18:17, 8 November 2009 (UTC)}} - <small> Multi-vote struck --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 18:22, 8 November 2009 (UTC)</small>
After two weeks and  less than 50% support, this guide will not be featured on the [[Guides]] page. '''Failed'''.--[[User:Zaphord|Zaphord]] 04:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

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