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===[[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheese]]===
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Righty ho, I've been pottering about as one of the masses again for a while and I wouldn't mind getting my old sysop buttons back. For those who don't know much about me, I joined the wiki waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in 2006 and became a sysop in 2008 before getting demoted about 2 and a half weeks ago. In my most recent re-evaluation the main sticking point for most people was my lack of activity in my final term which I have attempted to address and I'm pretty confident that it won't be repeated thanks to a pretty generous uni timetable this semester. 

I usually spend my time doing janitor-y tasks like image and page categorising and I've been taking a stab at clearing through the [[Special:Short Pages|Short Pages]] list to try and clear away redundant pages. I've made just slightly less than 500 edits in the last 6 months however about 450 of these have been in the last month and a half so I have been pretty active since I came back to the wiki. 

I hope you guys would like me back as I've enjoyed serving the community for the past few years and I will continue to do so to the best of my abilities. =) -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:56, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

*'''Strong Vouch''' - But I see you running in to opposition given the short space of time since your demotion.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 16:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
* '''Vouch''' Need more veterans on the syop team--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 16:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Question''' Any particular event motivated the decision at this time? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:59, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*:I wouldn't so much say event but the lack of the ability to move pages is starting to make me a bit sad. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*::Ahhh. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*:::I assume you were thinking of [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning#User:XxXD3M0NIKXxX|this]]? -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*::::That, a raft of promotions, discussions on suburb listings, the suburb map, discussion about provisional sysop privileges, the largest wiki news section in history etc, etc, etc. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

*As Yonnua. It's barely been 2 weeks. I would have nominated you myself after a while since you're doing great work, but this screams "too soon" to me. Meh, I'll think it over. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 17:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*:Fuck it, I'm sure he'll stay active this time. Other than poor timing, great candidate that I would even consider for crat material (which he once was). '''Vouch''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 17:07, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Weak Against'''. Simply for re-appearing far too early for me to be able to make an educated guess on your activity level in the future. Just keep up being helpful and especially active for a couple of more months, and I'd gladly vouch for you just on the grounds of your past strong janitorial contributions. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 17:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Vouch''' - I voted to keep you during A/RE so yeah. IMO Cheese deserves his buttons. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 17:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*Vouch, just so long as you're more active. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*<s>'''Weak against'''</s> - I haven't heard bad things about your sysop time, so that's not really a problem for me. The question I have is how long are you able to stay active? You said yourself that you have a good timetable this semester, but what happens next semester? You continue your work or become inactive again? You get demoted for low activity and a few semesters later when you have another good timetable you want to become sysop again? I say weak against now, but if you can convince me you can remain active as sysop for a decent amount of time I'm willing to make a vouch for you. --[[User:Efighter|Efighter]] 20:39, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*:This semester lasts until the end of May with a 3 week break some point towards the end of March. I then don't start back until end of September. That's the start of my honours year so I don't know how that's going to look yet but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Suffice to say that I'm going to be pretty active for at least the next 7 months and quite possibly beyond that. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 20:50, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::'''Vouch''' - That looks good, 7 months is a decent time you can stay active. Other complaints I heard are all about you wanting to become sysop again so quickly after losing the job. But if you truly can stay active for 7 months that shouldn't be a problem for my vouch. --[[User:Efighter|Efighter]] 07:47, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Weak Against''' - It's just too soon after your failed re-evaluation to be trying for another promotion. --{{User:Armpit_Odor/dnsig}} 20:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Super Mother-Fucking Vouch''' - Better than Yon--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 22:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*:I happily agree.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 07:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Vouch''' - There was nothing wrong in the first place. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Strong Against''' - User has shown negligible activity since August, and insists that he be reelected despite the community refusing him less than a month ago. Has not recently shown interest in anything but his rank. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 23:37, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
*:The only major problem the community had was with my activity which I have done my utmost to address. Aside from that that everyone was generally happy with my presence. As for the "negligible" activity, I've been way more active that you have over the past month and a bit, so fuck off. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 02:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
*::Yes, but only one of you is seeking promotion on that basis. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:58, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
*We were just having a hypothetical discussion on passing potential ops under the guarantee they would undergo an A/RE three months after their initial promotion, and I said it was a bad idea. This is probably one of the situations where it may actually be apt- situations related to activity. I definitely want to vouch Cheese because the work he's done is the best work we've seen a user do in probably years, and I know he's a good op when he's around, but 2 week is still much too soon IMO, '''against'''. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 05:51, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Strong Against''' -- and I also put forward a motion to put a time constraint on reappeals. {{User:Ashley Valentine/sig}} 12:10, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''weak against''' too soon, seems this like is a vanity bid more than anything.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 15:45, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Strong Vouch''' Should never have lost the buttons as his inactivity wasn't causing a problem (not always the case with inactive sysops) Personally I think he is amongst the best Sysops this place has ever had... Well apart from Grim_s --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 17:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Weak Against''' - As Armpit_Odor.  [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 21:12, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Against''' Start Quote. I've been way more active that you have over the past month and a bit, so fuck off. End Quote. No need to respond in such a manner imo. --[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 11:23, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Weak Vouch''' - Somewhat premature after the failed A/RE, but if we can expect this level of activity from someone who knows the ins and outs of the wiki as well as Cheese does, well, giving him back his powzars sounds good to me. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 22:17, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Vouch:''' He was a good sysop as far as I can tell. The main argument against seems to be "too soon", which does not really bother me. As long as he sticks around for 3-4 months doing the work he has always done it will be fine. It is not as if these promotions are hugely taxing on the community, the gain far outweighs the pain. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 20:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''weak against''' - Everyone loves Cheese... He's a solid sysop candidate; however, if his committment is in doubt, the wiki would be better off using his experience as an active but regular user on the Admin pages and possibly Arbys -- for now. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 04:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

This is again tough to process, especially since the community (and their reasons) are again quite split. However, Ross and I were quick to agree that it was too soon to have put a bid up even though many of the issues are still addressed. While cheese is doing some fantastic work and removing many a cobweb in the long forgotten backwaters of the wiki (which most users would have to delve just to be ''considered'' for promotion in the older days), we think passing a bid 2 weeks after your initial A/RE rejection is just too soon. I don't say this every day, but I think WanYao's comments are right on the money. So while we are '''denying''' this bid, keep up your effort and even in a month, I don't think anyone will have any trouble with you being promoted. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)