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== Ms Malton 2011 Pageant ==
Would it be possible to put a link to this event on the front page thru August 2011 from here:
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Ms_Malton_2011_Pageant#Entry_Requirements:

[[User:SmokeyDawn|SmokeyDawn]] 06:17, 3 July 2011 (BST)
:Head over [[Template:Community_Projects|here]] and follow the instructions. Anything you post in there gets included on the main page. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:25, 3 July 2011 (BST)

::Thank you for the info & editing help! ♥--[[User:SmokeyDawn|SmokeyDawn]] 07:01, 9 July 2011 (BST)

== Outbreak Source? ==

Did anyone know where the zombie virus came from? (You know, except from NecroTech.) Like, did it come from Ridleybank? Or some NecroTech facility outside of Malton? Is there a known source, geographically? Tried searching the wiki, but nothing came up. --[[User:Rolfero|Rolfero]] 16:02, 10 June 2009 (BST)
:[[Outbreak]] and [[Possible Causes for the Situation]] are the best ones, but there isn't really any stuff on where it came from. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 16:27, 10 June 2009 (BST)
::Reading Time! Thanks. --[[User:Rolfero|Rolfero]] 16:36, 10 June 2009 (BST)
:::From a RP point of view, there is no confirmed source. read half a dozen location pages and you'll come up with one with a theory. For instance. [[Blabey Drive]]--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:38, 10 June 2009 (BST)
::::That's cool. Hmm... You know any more locations like that? I'll search around and try to find as many as possible. --[[User:Rolfero|Rolfero]] 16:46, 10 June 2009 (BST)
:::::There's a few on [[ALiM]], i forget which one's though. One of the dead interesting ones, a coffin lolcations p'aps? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:01, 13 June 2009 (BST)

== Removing the iwitness link on the main page ==

Since urbandead.info's been stolen by [http://www.urbandead.info/ domain poachers], it looks like it's gone, at least for now. I say that we replace it with [http://iamscott.net/dumbwit.html dumbwit] (which is a hasty replacement for itwit, been there since the last time it went down,) or just remove the link. Thoughts? {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 10:20, 20 June 2009 (BST)
:Or [http://udwitness.oddnetwork.org/ udwitness]. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 10:30, 20 June 2009 (BST)
:: I don't know which is best, eaasier, more accessable. Perhaps a link to a page holding all such programs? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:39, 20 June 2009 (BST)
:::I'll go ahead and remove the link now. I've used dumbwit quite a bit, but it's very simple. I'm going to try udwitness for a while. Anyone else got an idea? {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 10:44, 20 June 2009 (BST)
::::Put it onto List of External Sites. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:02, 20 June 2009 (BST)
:::::Done. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 11:11, 20 June 2009 (BST)
:::::One thing that could be done is to have the link to iwitness reports in a template (or any other external resource used in the wiki). So, if this happens again, one can simply change the base url and update any reference to a iwitness in the entire wiki. The page would be protected to prevent vandalism, of course. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 15:23, 20 June 2009 (BST)

I say you guys fix this travesty considering iwitness works, is better, and etc etc. Also the Max Map needs adding again. ;) The urls are all the same, oh and udwidget has been updated too. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:39, 3 July 2009 (BST)
:As far as I can tell, the only thing I'm missing with UDWitness is a search feature and privatization of reports. :p - &nbsp;<small>[[User:Haliphax|<span style="color: #FF9999;background: #394939;padding-right:8px;padding-left:7px"><small>&nbsp;'''H'''aliphax</small></span>]][[User talk:Haliphax|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-left:5px;padding-right:2px">'''T'''</span>]][[User:Haliphax#Characters|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;">'''C'''</span>]][[User:Haliphax#Scripts|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-right:5px;padding-left:2px">'''S'''</span>]]</small> 16:19, 8 July 2009 (BST) (UDWitness author)
::Which is to say it's lacking but you're trying to minimize that by not mentioning all the things it's lacking in. I fail to see how this is relevant.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:49, 9 July 2009 (BST)
::So you want a way to make them more secure AND a way to search for the one you want? Thats a little bit contradictory. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 08:43, 9 July 2009 (BST)
::''facepalm to end all facepalms'' .. It lacks a search feature and privatization. PERIOD. The two are NOT mutually exclusive -- PUBLIC records can be searched, PRIVATE ones will not be listed. There is no need to be boorish. Don't you also think it a bit closed-minded to only put stock in only one service when 1.) There are several like it and 2.) It has gone down repeatedly over the last several years? I am merely offering an alternative to IWitness. It was built simply because one day, when I wanted to use IWitness, it was down. A week later, it was still down. I wasn't having any of that, so I built UDWitness. I figured other people could benefit from it, so I released it to the general UD-playing public. I receive no benefit from running the service other than knowing that it serves a purpose (i.e., there is no ad revenue, and I pay for the server out of pocket). - &nbsp;<small>[[User:Haliphax|<span style="color: #FF9999;background: #394939;padding-right:8px;padding-left:7px"><small>&nbsp;'''H'''aliphax</small></span>]][[User talk:Haliphax|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-left:5px;padding-right:2px">'''T'''</span>]][[User:Haliphax#Characters|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;">'''C'''</span>]][[User:Haliphax#Scripts|<span style="color:#BBCCBB;background: #7d8f7d;padding-right:5px;padding-left:2px">'''S'''</span>]]</small> 14:23, 9 July 2009 (BST)
::Not to stir he pot, but the current listings look good to me.  The various systems do pretty much the same thing (hell, looks like they use the same code in the bookmarklets).  Halifax- if you want to slap in a private reacord feature, its as simple as having an index page (one that does NOT list the files) for the directory the private record pages are stored in.  Since it looks like all your record are stored in one stonking big directory, that means a single static index page would do the trick for ya (rather than the fancy / excessive system Iwit uses of a new directory every hour).  {{User:Swiers/Sig}} 03:56, 10 April 2010 (BST) 
:Added it back on the page, by the way. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 08:55, 9 July 2009 (BST)

== [[UDWiki:A Guide for Newbie UDWiki Users|Guide for Newbie UDWiki Users]] ==

two years ago several users started to create a guide for the udwiki newbie user. Its incomplete right now, and some sections could be tweaked a little to become more friendly. Anyway, could someone link this guide in the main page, just below the ''first time playing'' link ? --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 21:15, 15 July 2009 (BST)
:I'll make a new one or update this when I get around to it. I've been meaning to do so for a while. Until then, we shouldn't add it to the main page. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 13:33, 16 July 2009 (BST)

== Ross? ==

[http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9223/scr7002163.jpg A wild Rosslessness appears]. :P. Really though, what's up with that? --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 13:31, 18 September 2009 (BST)
:I have no idea. probably my edit to news. hold on. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:36, 18 September 2009 (BST)
::Sorted. Anything you type on template wiki news, below the included template is added to the start of news. I can see no way it could be exploited to get messages onto a protected page.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:39, 18 September 2009 (BST)
:::I knew I wasn't crazy. :D --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 05:23, 19 September 2009 (BST)
<br>*Looks at Wiki*<br>Mmm hmm I won't even go there.<br> [[User:Jerrel Yokotory|Jerrel Yokotory]] 21:49, 16 October 2009 (BST)

== Error ==

"Apr 11th - A better policy which requires notification of escalations and de-escalations in the vandal system has '''be''' submitted for discussion. All users are encouraged to comment here." Fixing this, anyone? --{{User:Skin/sig}} 15:48, 11 April 2010 (BST)
:You were welcome to do so... but I'll get to it. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 15:57, 11 April 2010 (BST)

== Main Page tweaks? ==

So I've been working on [[User:Red Hawk One/Sandbox 1|some possible alterations]] to the main page. I'm hoping for some input on this, and if anyone would be interested in seeing some of these changes made. {{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 04:02, 26 April 2010 (BST)
:it is my understanding that GPDNAS is not active. i could be wrong but might want to check their forums.--[[User:Bonghit420|Dirty]] 11:01, 26 April 2010 (BST)
::I like the community portal, but hate the top box. We could always modify [[MediaWiki:Anonnotice]] to contain the information. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:39, 26 April 2010 (BST)

== Small Edit to be Made ==

The front page says that it has been 4 years since the outbreak, but it rolled over to 5 a few days ago.  

[[User:Chocolate bob|Chocolate bob]] 22:58, 6 July 2010 (BST)
:Done.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:33, 6 July 2010 (BST)

== Skills link ==

ok i think there should be a link that led to skills only--[[User:Zombieman 11|Zombieman 11]] 23:21, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:Oh you mean like the link on the Main Page that leads to [[:Category:Skills|This Page]] that when click brings you to the [[:Category:Skills|Skills page]]? The one that is labeled [[:Category:Skills|Skills]] that can be found on the Main Page? {{User:Vapor/sig}} 23:30, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
::no i mean on th side bar thing--[[User:Zombieman 11|Zombieman 11]] 21:57, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:::You know that's not actually a bad idea... -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:06, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
::::And only one of us around here has the ability to change it. *nudge nudge* {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:24, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Zombieman 11, just click the link on the side bar that says [[Special:Random|Random Page]] until you find it. You'll come across it eventually. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 22:16, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Vapor, I present thee a cookie for that comment. {{Cookie|Axe Hack|Vapor|reason=making Axe Hack laugh.}} --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:18, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

== Curious ==

Do we really need all of this junk? I'm thinking it's time for an overhaul and reduction to things directly useful to players needing help. Not things useful to the wiki community(the purpose of [[UDWiki:Community Portal]] and [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]]). --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:05, 20 June 2011 (BST)
:It's not junk, the wiki is also here to facilitate community interests. What would you suggest? Although, it might be better to just turn [[CP]] into a series of useful links, like some other wikis, because as of now it's not really useful.  --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:21, 20 June 2011 (BST)

== mediawiki sidebar recruitment ==

I was thinking. Because of the perhaps undeniable success of the [[#Skills link]] suggestion two headers above this one, perhaps we should add a page to [[recruitment]] or such to the side as well, i dunno, [[Groups]] is a bit large, but maybe that would be of interest to users? maybe? just food for thought? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 13:32, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:Dunno. I don't actually know that many people who have used the recruitment page to actually join groups. :P --[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 13:48, 25 July 2011 (BST)
::Chances are adding in that link would make it more widely used. Although if we were going to add in that link I'd say organize up the recruitment page by type of group first then A-Z under there respective headers. As just plain A-Z isn't particularly helpful. Hell I'll even do the rearranging need be..{{User:Mazu/sig}}  13:54, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:::that might be because we haven't thrown recruit page at them enough yet! Dunno. You're probably right. I wouldn't know, never was good at joining groups. As mazu said about changing recruitment page to fit, I think that's also a decent idea and may possibly be worth it just to give recruitment a bigger surge in viewership and more usefulness? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 13:59, 25 July 2011 (BST)
::::I can hear the cries of 'bias!' already with regards to sorting the groups by type, not only between the different playstyles, but potentially within groups too. I do think adding a recruitment link to the sidebar is an excellent idea though, mostly because I've just improved the RRF recruitment advert <___< --[[User:Two_Headed_Sex_Beast|<span style="color:HotPink; font-family:Small Fonts; font-size:medium">TWO HEADED </span>]][[The Ridleybank Resistance Front|<span style="color:HotPink; font-family:Small Fonts; font-size:medium">SEX BEAST</span>]] 14:04, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:::::Bias? I'd simply sort them out as PKer, Pro-survivor(Bounty hunters, Life Cultist, etc.), and Pro-Zombie(RKers, GKers, Death Cultist, etc.). If they'd have a problem with their placement just post it up on the talk page and well sort it out.{{User:Mazu/sig}}  14:07, 25 July 2011 (BST)
::::::Who gets the top of the page though? Pro-zombie? Pro-survivor? Player killer? Personally, I don't think it matters all that much, but there's almost certainly going to get people that'll complain if they perceive bias (from survivors, for example, if you list zombie groups first). --{{User:Two_Headed_Sex_Beast/sig}} 14:23, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:::::::Hell didn't even think of that. We can just do that alphabetically as a bias free way of organizing. So it'd go Player Killer Groups, Pro-Survivor, Pro-Zombie, Miscellaneous Groups(last because they lack a theme and that's common practice among the internet I think?). {{User:Mazu/sig}}  14:36, 25 July 2011 (BST)
::::::::I think just keeping the organisation as it is works for the best, to be honest. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 15:06, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:::::::::The organization discussion is separate from the topic at hand, and is better handled on the Recruitment page (as an aside, I agree with Mis, since anyone whose been around for the debates on that page or the suburb group listings knows how much of a bag of drama that topic can be). As for ''this'' discussion, adding the link is valuable, so I'd go with it. And for those asking about how often people actually use the page, I'd say that probably 1/3 to 1/2 of the recruits the SoC gets who cite a reason they joined cite the wiki. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:22, 25 July 2011 (BST)
::::::::I can't believe people would throw a fit because of the order, idiots, but I'll take it to the recruitment page since the current A-Z organization just makes it harder to find groups if your looking for a certain type. {{User:Mazu/sig}}  21:35, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:::::::::Every group is tagged by type. Ctrl + F. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:38, 25 July 2011 (BST)
:What are the chances of getting a [[Recruitment]] link added to the sidebar then? I'd personally like to see it happen if it'll be potentially successful in boosting group numbers. --{{User:Two_Headed_Sex_Beast/sig}} 19:33, 27 July 2011 (BST)
::Since there didn't seem to be any opposition to adding it, I went ahead and did it. The community section seemed to make most sense so that is where I put it. Maybe "the game" section would be better. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:49, 27 July 2011 (UTC)</sub>
:::I would say it fits better in "the Game" section because it's a page relating to Urban Dead the game, not wiki.{{User:Mazu/sig}}  20:44, 27 July 2011 (BST)
::::+1. --{{User:Two_Headed_Sex_Beast/sig}} 20:52, 27 July 2011 (BST)
:::::Yeah thought better of it, too. "The Game" it is. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:04, 27 July 2011 (UTC)</sub>

== 4 days worth of RC ==

i was worried that lately i got to see 3 days worth of RC... but today, i got to see today (September 20), yesterday (19), the day before yesterday (18) and the day before that (17)... are we losing contributors ? --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 20:02, 20 September 2011 (BST)
:Yes, but also it's been abnormally slow. I think it will pick up in October due to some events but we definitely have much fewer contributors, less drama, even less spambots these days. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>20:08, 20 September 2011 (UTC)</sub>
::It's getting hard to sysop with nothing to fix. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:49, 20 September 2011 (BST)
:::Clearly, someone needs to start a ruckus. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:12, 21 September 2011 (BST)
::::I think that someone should be you, Gnome. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:12, 21 September 2011 (BST)
:::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>breaks wiki*{{User:Mazu/sig}}  01:23, 21 September 2011 (BST)
::::::VANDALISM!!!  VANDALISM!!! *throws ban hammer at Mazu* --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:32, 21 September 2011 (BST)
::I laugh in the face of your spambots, back in the day we'd ban pages upon pages a day. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:44, 25 September 2011 (BST)
:::::I will devise a plan behind everyone's backs and conduct the result for all to see. Well, it will be ruckus, of some sort! --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:50, 21 September 2011 (BST)
I'm taking you all to arbitration. -- <span style="font-size: 10px; line-height: 10px; font-family: verdana; font-weight: bold; color: darkred;">&trade; & &copy; [[User:Amazing|Amazing]], [[Hell Rising|INC]]. All rights reserved. Replying constitutes acceptance of our [[User:Amazing/Myths|Terms of Service]].</span> 01:57, 22 September 2011 (BST)
:You go ahead and do that, but I demand not just a single arbitrator.  I demand there be a jury of arbitrators. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:03, 22 September 2011 (BST)
::I'll be one! --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:39, 22 September 2011 (BST)
:::I'll be three! {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:28, 22 September 2011 (BST)

==Quack==
....Um...What the fuck?  Did Yon really request that in his Arby's ruling?  Alright, sure, I might have joined in that joke a bit around the middle, but I think we've crossed the line here with the...um...carrying out of the ruling. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:15, 7 October 2011 (BST)
:It was that or promoting Nubis. Settle down the lesser evil. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 00:16, 7 October 2011 (BST)
:This is beyond the limits of what an arbies can do... --{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 00:18, 7 October 2011 (BST)
::{{Grr}} {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:02, 7 October 2011 (BST)
::Also the parties in question have to like, accept? Pretty sure we still do that.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 01:04, 7 October 2011 (BST)

==the date and year==
2012 calling and it's warm outside. --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>15:38, 22 May 2012 </small>

==Main Page Organization Discussion==
Continuation of a discussion begun at [[Template talk:UDThisMonth]].

As the Community Portal template has lengthened somewhat with the introduction of the UD This Month feature, it has pushed the Navigation boxes further down the page. Is there consensus to swap the Navigation and Community Portal sections? Please discuss. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:31, 29 July 2012 (BST)