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== Jerden's comments ==
Jerden would like to say he's touched by the comments on this page, and I really think this improves JRC and our wiki pages. I love the way you've brought your own arguments here! I think people have really got the idea of JRC - you love it or you hate it. Mostly friendly hate really. I aim to make Urban Dead a more fun place - let's face it, you all love a villain don't you! Someone who paints a big target on everyone, including himself. I don't plan on leaving or giving up Crowbank, and neither do my enemies. TSI, see the enemies page, that's pretty much all I have to say, anyone who likes me - thanks - PKers are the underdog, hated by all except possibly each other - alliances always welcomed by JRC. [[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 18:27 29 October 2012 (BSD)

== Furst! (AKA Walls of text and mostly other groups' arguments, complements and boasts)==

Hi Jerden. Y'know, I've read your barely literate group page (''Corrected now, sorry, but spelling's not my strong point, In future I'll try to spell check it. --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 19:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)'')  and I have to say, it's quite endearing. Either you really are just totally inept, from the feeble coat of arms with its awful Google Latin, to the mish-mash of rules and stream-of-consciousness ramblings, or the page is the work of a truly twisted genius. I'm going with the first theory. (''I'm going with both! --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 19:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)'')

Anyway, my friends and I couldn't help but notice your ill-advised challenge to TSI. Let's just say: it's on. It'll be a bit like fighting a one-armed man, ripping his arm off, then beating him to death with it, (''Fun Right! --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 19:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)'') but hey - it was your shout. May the best group win. Hint: it's not you.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 20:13, 13 October 2012 (BST)
:Jerden is everything right about Urban Dead. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup>  20:16, 13 October 2012 (BST) (''Hell yeah! --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 19:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)'')
::In the absence of Rufus Vanpants, Imma gonna agree with you there.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 17:39, 14 October 2012 (BST)

Watch yourself Jerden.  You may think "hey a suburb away should be safe," but you would be wrong.  TSI just happens to have a zombie group of many same members, that just happens to be one suburb away, that just happens to eat people who kills their alts.  It's totally not zerging or multi-abuse, just coincident.  This, of course, ignoring their "former" member who is zerge listed. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 23:03, 16 October 2012 (BST)
:Allow me to provide A Brief History for the Apparently Butthurt (you know, Kirsty, you could always contact TSI or CTD directly if you have a problem, instead of whispering in Jerkoff's ear). 

:A bunch of us from another internet forum started a load of zombie and survivor characters and the two main groups that formed as a result unfortunately ended up inhabiting the same corner of Malton - long before any of us knew of the Zerg Liste and its 10-blocks rule (which Kevan's own rules don't insist upon, hence we didn't see the problem at the time) - but the roots of TSI in Vinetown, and the Club in Gulsonside, are now far too deep for us to consider moving either group. It would be like the RRF leaving Ridleybank, or Jerden not being an annoying little twerp - unthinkable. 

:We do try to keep our alts 10 blocks apart but mistakes have been made on occasion and a rotter and one of Brian XIII's nuncios have strayed within roaring bellow distance, which is how one former cardinal was Zerg Listed. Nonetheless, as per Kevan's rules, the two groups do have completely different aims, being pro-survivor/anti-moron (TSI) and pro-zombie dancing (CTD). Naturally, if a breather gets into Clubber (or other zombie group) territory, they run the risk of being eaten (and mocked in fluent Zamgarh into the bargain, and potentially also poked with bananas). It '''is''' a zombie apocalypse game after all. Best not to cry when it happens to you.

:The former member is just that - a former member. As he's still Zerg Listed, feel free to act as you see fit. No doubt you will also help us rid Vinetown and Pegton of prudence's numerous anti-TSI imposter alts, and blair's griefing rotters, as there are genuine cheat-no-matter-what laugh-in-the-face-of-fair-play zergers around that you might like to get your panties properly knotted over. 

:Finally, as Jerden was just offed by a TSI member in Crowbank, please let me know if you have a problem with that as well. Meanwhile: TSI 1 - Jerden 0.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 18:53, 17 October 2012 (BST)
::Kirsty, you forgot to mention the part about how TSI are completely inept at PKer hunting, despite claims to the contrary on their group page. If I were a gamblin' man, I'd put my money on Jerden for most personal kills. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)</sub>
:(Ah, it's turning into a Butthurt Reunion Meeting! How nice for you.) CAR, Cobra, Flowers of Decay etc etc might beg to differ about TSI... if they're being honest. But since when do PKers admit they're useless?--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 04:05, 18 October 2012 (BST)

::I'll give credit on the PK hunting, TSI did well as did CtD.  When I was shooting TSI, both groups got a few kills on me.  As for my original comment, Mallrat: why did you feel the need to repeat what I said without the sarcasm but with some extra explanation?  I said you got two groups right next to each other, and they kill the same people (if said people are PKers); you said the exact same thing minus the "just happen to" part.  I will acknowledge in that part you did mention the RRF, who are a zombie group that kills any breathers.  You did miss the difference that they don't have a survivor group one suburb away.  As for CtD moving being equivalent to RRF moving, that is just stupid.  RRF has Ridleybank in their name.  There are clubs all over Malton, there is nothing about CtD that wouldn't make sense if you moved.  You do explain: that now your roots are too deep where you are.  I'm glad I've been able to educate you on this issue, but I would have expected you already knew this when your member was zerge listed if not a few years before.  It's simply a matter that you like being able to keep your alts close, so they can help each other.  Not zerg, but multi-abuse.  Your attempts to claim that as anything but are ridiculous and transparent.  Most groups that kick out a member who zergs, although if I recall correctly your zerger just left of his own accord, hunt said member if they try to hang around.  Because it makes everyone in the group look like cheaters when you are still associating with that member. Then you even justify that zerging as apparently not "genuine cheat-no-matter-what laugh-in-the-face-of-fair-play zergers," which I guess makes it better?  Although your zerger had no issue shooting his killer with his other alt almost immediately after dying.  I'll be honest, the real surprise to your response was that it didn't end with "bhalls to whalls." --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 22:46, 18 October 2012 (BST)
:::Hey Kirsty, don't be unfair. Clubbed to Death ''IS'' a part of Gulsonside. TSI, on the other hand, could go anywhere. No seriously, Mallrat, move TSI. Try Starlingtown. Or Lerwill Heights. Because the rest of what Kirsty said is true.
:::That being said, last time the PBTB attacked you guys, it was good fun. Might have to come back someday. --[[User:CarelessWill|CarelessWill]] 02:14, 19 October 2012 (BST)
::::You guys must have caught TSI at a good time, or FOD caught them at a bad time. Because seriously, we went looking for a good fight and instead found...minimal resistence. We were there for about a month and other than a few deaths by McManix here, it was utterly unremarkable. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>02:47, 19 October 2012 (UTC)</sub>
:::::They were good at keeping us dead. Not particularly at finding and killing us, but denying us the opportunity to revive? Oh yes. I give them full marks for that. Quite frustrating, actually, until our reviver woke up and came over. --[[User:CarelessWill|CarelessWill]] 03:21, 19 October 2012 (BST)
::::::You are joking aren't you Vapor? FOD were one of the biggest disappointments so far - as bad or worse than the Thugs of Malton (defunct) or Sisters of Death (probably defunct again after their brief revival). You guys didn't even heal up after we killed you, so we would just find you in the nearest dark building, cowering with your feeble 30HPs, and pick you off repeatedly. Seriously, you took a beating. Even perennial pre-pubescents CAR and PHOBIA were more effective.
::::::Kirsty, the guy who was Zerg Listed didn't need to be kicked out - he left. We urged him to clear his name but he refused. He's still a friend beyond the game but he's not with TSI. If anything, the proximity of CTD and TSI is a pain in the butt, because if Jerden (say) wants to hide in Gulsonside, he knows TSI won't follow him if they have zombies nearby (Mick McManix never goes south of the Vinetown border, for example). Of course, that player is taking a risk because, y'know, there are '''zombies''' in the area instead. BTW, there are only about 4 TSI members still active, whereas there are 10 active Clubbers, so being eaten by CTD =/= being attacked by a TSI player in every case.
::::::If anyone doesn't think TSI has deep roots in Vinetown and Pegton, you don't know the history. We've been in the area around Gelasius Hospital for years - ask MERCY, or Ross. It's home (in fact, we may have got there before CTD settled on Blesley as its base - and the Club's near-continuous occupation of that particular mall for several years is pretty much its raison d'etre by now.)--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 04:28, 19 October 2012 (BST)
:::::::Meh, I just checked the scalps and it looks more like you guys were asleep while we trounced the rest of the burb. We were in Vinetown between July 4th and August 3rd and though we claimed 142 scalps that month, less than a dozen were TSI. Everything else was MDK or anyone sleeping in the mall or that damn cinema. Perhaps we'll come back when you're ready for us. I would love to pay an homage to High Lord and Supreme Ruler of Crowbank, Jerden. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:45, 19 October 2012 (UTC)</sub>
::::::::We're always ready to escort blowhards like FOD back to the gutter, just try to make it worth your bus fare next time round. Killing sheep in a mall is hardly a challenge. Also, how many times did '''you''' get scalped? PKers tend not to keep very accurate accounts of their own 'expenses'. The number of times we plucked your flowers, it was getting a bit silly by the end. :D--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 09:12, 19 October 2012 (BST)

::::::::Update: just totted up the scores for your visit to the Inquisition's home turf and it was TSI 26, FOD 12.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 11:17, 19 October 2012 (BST)
:::::::::I just did the same and came to a vastly different number. It looked like only Maldourus and yourself were the only ones trying. Unless you've got members not wearing TSI tags or you're claiming ally kills, its more like 12 to 12. Still though we were there for a month and kept that mall and that cinema consistantly full of dead guys and gals. I just didn't see much effort on TSI's part to stop us. Maybe next time it will be different. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:23, 19 October 2012 (UTC)</sub>
::::::::::I included all the kills by me and my 3 buddies - that does include kills by one of the Michael Jacksons, but not by allies like El Frito or any of the MERCYites - otherwise the total would be much higher. Like I said, culling sheep in the mall is easy. Whenever you encountered us, you took a beating - even though you had a head start - indeed, for most of the 5 weeks you came to visit, half to two-thirds of your active FODs were in the gutter. Note also that as well as you guys, we were operating against the usual blair/prudence zerg alts, The Dead and a few other malcontents. Not bad for 3 or 4 crusty cardinals and a King of Pop impersonator.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 20:06, 19 October 2012 (BST)
:::::::::::I would point out there were more FoD to shoot than TSI, per your own admission.  Basically you had 4 TSI active, who never would log in and not find a FoD.  Whereas, FoD had to hunt around for the few TSI left.  Numbers are hardly the end-all to who won.  I'm not sure the number of FoD at that time, but assuming equal deaths of all members FoD killed every single TSI 3 times. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 23:12, 19 October 2012 (BST)
::::::::::::"Numbers are hardly the end-all to who won"? It was '''Vapor''' who said "we claimed 142 scalps that month", admitting that most of them were "sleeping in the mall" and "less than a dozen were TSI", and from those numbers somehow concluding that "we'll come back when you're ready for us". Seems like we were pretty ready for them at the time, considering that a handful of us claimed 26 FOD scalps, even as we were combating numerous other noisy neighbours. As I said, for much of their visit the majority of the Flowers were plucked and lying in gutters. They even whined because we killed Skye Blu as soon as she put on her Flower tags, because "she doesn't even have a bounty yet"! PKers whingeing about being PKed? Oh dear!

::::::::::::Basically, the Flowers are 1) crap at hiding (although they got better at running) 2) useless at healing themselves and 3) not very efficient at reviving each other, although I concede they are 4) good at shooting fish in a barrel/sheep in a mall.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 05:15, 20 October 2012 (BST)
:::::::::::::Eh, I honestly didn't realize you were just four guys. Probably explains why you barely appeared on our radar. Anyway, I doubt we'll make the effort to revisit. You keep holding on to that claim about forcing PKers from Vinetown. Pfft. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:59, 20 October 2012 (UTC)</sub>

::::::::::::::Rollmat, our job is to rack up kill tallies, anywhere and anytime we can get them. Your job is to flap your jaws aimlessly. I think we both succeeded at our jobs, though you probably succeeded more.<br>
::::::::::::::In all seriousness, and we must be serious here because virtual murder text games are deadly serious business, we fought the whole burb and won. You took down a few small beans then threw a few potshots at us in a feeble attempt to surpass our sheer dominance over the whole fucking burb. I hope you liked your taste of defeat, because you're gonna get seconds soon. ;)</SERIOUS BUSINESS>--[[User:RadicalWhig|RadicalWhig]] 05:57, 20 October 2012 (BST)

Wow. Jerden you Rule! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 05:47, 20 October 2012 (BST)
:Jerden > TSI. Mallrat just feels threatened :D--[[User:RadicalWhig|RadicalWhig]] 05:57, 20 October 2012 (BST)
::Can't help thinking I've touched a nerve, seeing as so many whiny PKers are joining the mutual support group here. But if you really think landing 12 kills on us while taking 26 in return from 4 players means we weren't ready for you, or was a "taste of defeat" for ''us'', or that you "fought the whole burb and won" (talk about taking games seriously!), do please continue. We laughed at your uselessness then, and will do so again. PKers come and go (and in the case of the Thugs, the CAR, Sisters of Death, they fold), but TSI, MERCY et al continue to work our Vinetown parish.

::Whig, seeing as you were a repeated victim of TSI and Co., I can only assume you are among the "small beans" you mention. FWIW, the best PKer among you is JR, and the hardest to find was Jethro. A tip of the mitre to them.

::PS Both Jerden and Leiter are dead, so who will revive Jerden now? I hope they have a better revival and healthcare plan than the Flowers did! Perhaps JRC and FOD could join forces - you're on a similar level.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 13:36, 20 October 2012 (BST)
:::It seems to me that the only nerve struck has been yours, as evident by the typical Mallrat brand of impotnet rage filled text walls. If you'd been paying attention, I was trying to remain civil but I'm just about all out of fucks at this point. I'm willing to concede that perhaps you killed more than just the dozen or so that were reported to our revenge list. We had some new folks joining up around that time and even some random guy wearing our group tag. I personally wasn't impressed, but hey what do I know. I'm only the guy leading the charge against chest thumping self-proclaimed "pro" survivors like yourself. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:32, 20 October 2012 (UTC)</sub>
::::Mi-aow! Goodnight, sweetheart... You can thump my chest anytime!--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 20:56, 20 October 2012 (BST)
:::::If you say so.--[[User:RadicalWhig|RadicalWhig]] 21:14, 20 October 2012 (BST)
:::Wha? My nerves aren't touched as of yet. I just think Jerden's group name, and page, is boss. You go Jerden! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 05:12, 23 October 2012 (BST)

 
HAH! I am very much alive, thank you very much!--[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 10:53, 21 October 2012 (BST)
:Jerden you rule! I'll give you a revive! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 05:14, 23 October 2012 (BST)

Jerden would like to point out he has no revivification plan. Do people honestly not realize how easy it is for a non rotter to get a revive without trying? Break into a building and someone will spend 10AP to get rid of you. (And I will not attack them afterwards, so lucky them!) That's why I'm Dual Natured. I love being a zombie, I love being human. Anyway, alliances are always welcome if you want to ensure we don't kill you, revive me if you see me please. I have places to go and people to kill. [[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 5:22, 29 October 2012 (BST)
:Given the comments on multi-abuse above, I just want to note for the record the curious fact that my Kilt Store alt Thurston Mallrat was PKed yesterday near Hildebrand Mall, by one of Vapor's alts, James Slimm - no comment made regarding motive, completely out of the blue, the two characters have never interacted before... Coincidence? :) --{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 15:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

== TSI vs JRC (Vinetown Wanderers vs Crowbank F.C.) ==

'''CURRENT STANDING: TSI:11 JRC:8'''

I make the latest score TSI 2 - JRC 0, seeing as the Monk and nomatr1 have both beaten your keeper Jerden. Whoever killed Leiter wasn't one of ours, more's the pity! Mick is anxious to get on the scoresheet for his club, seeing as he put on his red shooting slippers (Vatican F50 VatiZeros) specially.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 19:44, 21 October 2012 (BST)


Ah yes, very unfortunate business that. Roopzs from Zombie Squad decided to come knocking on my house (BSPD) :/ Aw well, will be up and running soon again I think. --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 20:21, 21 October 2012 (BST)

:TSI 3 - JRC 0: nomatr1 to the top-left corner, leaving Jerden sprawling.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 04:27, 23 October 2012 (BST)
:Gooollaaaaaaazzzzooooo! It's a sweet one-two between nomatr1 and Mick. Nomatr1 sets up the shot for Mick by putting on the lights in Rillie Cinema, and Mick makes no mistake from point-blank range, blasting not so much ''past'' Jerden as ''through'' him. TSI 4 - JRC 0. Can JRC get on the scoresheet? Or will TSI maintain a clean sheet in defence?--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 10:21, 27 October 2012 (BST)

Why waste the ammo? I'll kill you if convenient, don't you worry. [[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 17:24, 29 October 2012 (BST)

Right, scoresheet updated to TSI 4 - JRC 1. Nomatr1 has left human life. For a while... --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 18:57, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
:Quickly back on his feet, nomatr1 promptly restores the TSI advantage with a storming counter-attack. TSI 5, JRC 1.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 05:13, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
:Mick himself finally gets his shooting boots, er, red slippers on, and puts one of his own past Leiter. TSI 6, JRC 1. Jerden's apparently still dead and on the sidelines of this enthralling (if not particularly close) contest.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 10:40, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
:As JRC have fled the field of play, the referee blows the whistle and calls it a day for the Crowbank leg of the contest. Final score: '''TSI 6, JRC 1.''' (Cue theme tune to ''Match of the Day''.) --{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 14:56, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

::Bah! I was in Crowbank yesterday, we're a bit preoccupied in a major event and the conflict is far from over. As soon as I'm done with November I'm coming for you guys again.--[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 15:24, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
:::Yaaaaawwwwwn. We've had our half-time oranges, and have got our boots laced ready to give you another arse-kicking. :) --{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 17:54, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
:::Leiter gets red-carded... TSI 7, JRC 1.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 13:24, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

::::Aaaand todays winner is Nomatr1, taking the score to a TSI 7, JRC 2 --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 01:58, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

:::::Good on you Leiter, as the Sith of November Event is nearly over I'll be joining you soon. I hope to rack up my kill tally against TSI, as I've not really made much contribution yet. --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 19:55, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

:::Leiter makes another howler, this time fumbling a speculatively kicked pumpkin into the back of his net... and somehow also winding up dead as a result. TSI 8, JRC 2.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 15:46, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

::::Gosh, what the hell did you guys do before you had us to harrass? Honest question. Do you think this'll ever get boring? --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 16:35, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Let's see, our Clubbed to Death zombies have held the same mall continuously for about three-and-a-half years. So you've got a while to go before we lose interest. Besides, what happened to "racking up your kill tally" against us? :D --{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 19:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::You missed my point Mallrat. I was using a rhetorical question to suggest that this feud is so fun we're probably never going to give up. Anyway, other stuff gets in the way, like killing another enemy, finding ammo, dying at the hands of a Knight and so on. About the kill tally... I said "I hope" not "I will within days". On the subject of Clubbed to Death... Threatening to use them against JRC was a little pathetic really. It suggests that you can't beat us without resorting to borderline cheating. It didn't scare me, it just made me think that I'd really annoyed you guys so I was doing somthing right. You're a good enough group, you don't need to do that Mallrat, so don't. And you still haven't answered my question on what you did before PKing us. --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 09:07, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Who said anything about using Clubbers against you? 8:2 suggests no cheating is required. Seriously, grow up. 
:::::::Before JRC, TSI did what we have always done: kept Vinetown and Pegton safe(ish) from zombies, PKers and gobshites. Since JRC, the same: only with new gobshites.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 12:39, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Sorry, I thought that one of you had threatened me with that that but it was just someone trying to warn me. I wonder why... Quoting from earlier:
:::::::::"Watch yourself Jerden.  You may think "hey a suburb away should be safe," but you would be wrong.  TSI just happens to have a zombie group of many same members, that just happens to be one suburb away, that just happens to eat people who kills their alts.  It's totally not zerging or multi-abuse, just coincident.  This, of course, ignoring their "former" member who is zerge listed. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 23:03, 16 October 2012 (BST)"
::::::::::Wow. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:10, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Anyway, my mistake. It's easy to get lost in the Great Wall of Text you started, and so I thought that that was a member of TSI typing that, as it does sort of read like that. Fine, I'll admit it - you're a worthy adversary and I take back the remark against your group. You have taught me much about the art of PKing, more specifically by teaching me how to avoid my enemies. As you will no doubt point out later, I need more practise, so I guess we'll continue the lessons. ;) Anyway, is the 8:2 the membership or the current score? Because team wise it's more like three of you doing the actual violence, mostly while me and Leiter where still new to the whole thing. Not much to be proud of, on both sides really. --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 16:01, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Hmm, let's see: you shoot your mouth off about ruling Crowbank, thereby starting something you can't finish; mistakenly think some butthurt PKer badmouthing us is actually ''one'' of us (and offer a mealy-mouthed 'apology' for your error); whine about your group only having two members (maybe 3 now) when the real issue is that you're all useless, and besides, TSI only comprises 4-5 members all told, with only 3 being fully active (the others doze off now and again); then you try to excuse your pitiable performance because of your newness to the game. Either man up or bow out, Jerden. At least Leiter's actually ''doing'' something.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 17:17, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Urban Dead is in itself pointless and unwinnable, nothing can be finished. I did mean the apology though, I'm gradually becoming less useless and I can't bow out because no matter how badly I'm doing, it's better than giving up. You've got to not take me so seriously, and I've got to try harder and not make excuses. I listen and learn.  --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 18:35, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::: No problem, I'm always prepared to give someone a second chance, and there's little danger of me taking you seriously. :D. See you around, and remember: keep your pumpkin loaded at all times.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 18:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::I don't have a pumpkin. :( --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 19:41, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Not to worry, it's only 11 months till they come back. In the meantime, you can find a golf club or cricket bat for those priceless comedy kills.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 03:14, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Hmm... sorry Jerden old buddy. Mick just tried to pass a pumpkin to you but somehow it slipped and he ended up killing you with it. Butter fingers! >.< '''9-2.'''--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 15:00, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
:This is irritating. I honestly was just ready to bring the fight to you, ammo and everything. (When I logged on I already knew this would happen. I mean it seems every other night I'm alive...) Anyway, I'm pretty sure I can pick up some tinsel when I next go shopping. Or just punch you. I'm sure I can get some good comedy kills. You know, when I'm next living. --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 18:56, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
::Jerden finally contribute by sending a superb shot right at nomatr1. In the excitement of the moment I forgot a one liner. I have let myself down. :( Please forgive me. I will try to ensure it doesn't happen again. Still, I said to snaflesnort, another TSI member in the same building "Tell nomatr1 that i'm sorry I forgot a one liner. Anyway, I've finally struck back at the tyranny of your oppressive group." The reason I spared snaflesnort is either because of my infinate mercy in not harming those who have not harmed me or due to low AP and ammo. You decide what's more likely. '''9-3'''. (TSI: now only three times better than JRC at PKing! We're catching up! Yes, I'm optimist! It's all about perspective.) --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 19:05, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
:::You say "Expected you." You fire your pistol at Malodorous Monk for 5 damage. Their flak jacket absorbs 1 point of that damage. They die. 9-4. --[[User:RadicalWhig|RadicalWhig]] 01:05, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Yi Sang dribbles past Penguinpyro (aka Radical Whig) and walks the bullet into his head. '''10-4.'''--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 09:50, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Mick takes on Leiter in a one-on-one. Leiter dives - no wait, ''dies'' - as another well-aimed pumpkin bulges the net. '''TSI 11, JRC 4.'''--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 11:59, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
:shoot! If only that Prick McManix id=2069365 hadn't shown up and lit the place a convenient 30AP timespan earlier. Aw well, I suppose he didn't know I was hiding from a certain Mick McManix. You know... that liner "Pumped again? Quit while yous're behind  wee man!" really makes no sense. the way I see it, it's better to quit when winning. Which I for one won't let you. --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 14:57, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
::FYI, Prick McManix is a zerg alt run by known zerger prudence's (who's hiding in a nearby dark building). There's also a pru alt called nomatr 1 around, as well as a few other Mick imposters. They're all run by prudence's as he tries to grief us with them. I can give you all of their profile ID numbers if you want. See the Zerg Liste for my reports on them. NB lighting up a warehouse makes no difference, they're not dark buildings.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 16:00, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
::Right, my apologies and I thought I had hidden in a bank, was pretty tired. --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 19:21, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you. Next time think before you type. You and Jerden both seem to suffer from premature accusation.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 03:28, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
::::Snarflesnort is dead. Turns out lack of AP was the only reason for not killing him earlier. What do you expect from a PKer like me? "So snarflesnort, I will destroy you just as I have destroyed other members of your violent and cruel group. Nothing personal, but I have a kill count to increase, see what I mean?" '''TSI 11, JRC 5.''' You know, it doesn't matter if you can maintain this lead, as long as you don't increase it. You're now only 2.2 times better at PKing than us! Also, good to have a new ally, hi to Penguinpyro. JRC now has 300% more members than I ever expected to get. It seems that violence really is quicker than diplomacy! --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 16:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Hi Jerden! You're dead, though apparently not by our inquisitorial hands - more's the pity. :)--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 04:28, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Malodorous Monk tries a sandwich of lead, didn't do his health any good. TSI 11 JRC 6 --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 16:22, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
:Good work Leiter. Anyway, don't you worry Mallrat, I'll be back on my feet soon enough. On the topic of the zergs, how do you know they're all run by the same person? Because there can be more than one person who finds Prick McManix hillarious. I always wonder how people know somebodys zerging. I guess if characters start working together a lot or something? --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 20:26, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
i think that this is enough. i would like jerden group and the spanish inquisition to stop fighting! nobody is going to fight. i would like to push for a truce. this competition is not good for either of us. i am not sure what jerden did to the spanish inquisition, and i do not want to know, but we have all lost sight of what is important. christmas is coming, and i think that we need to come to an agreement so we can continue our missions. please. --[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 06:35, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
:So, who does want to end the violence? I vote we see how it goes. I'm really enjoying this challenge. I don't want to go back to random killing, this is more exciting. Anyway, what is important? I say fun, and as far as I can tell both me and TSI are enjoying this. My mission ''is'' to kill people, and revenge is very satisfying. --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 20:47, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
:: jerden, this is an unhealthy competition! jerden group is getting bigger, but people also seem to look down on the spanish inquisition for what they have done and they are losing support because of that. there has to be a way to make peace with them so we can focus on crowbank. regardless of what happens, i will continue to heal and revive everybody who needs my services. this includes jerden group and the spanish inquisition. mallrat, if you or any of your friends from the spanish inquisition need a heal or a revive, please be present at the rishton building. or outside of it. --[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 21:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
:::I like wine. Red wine. And my glass is merely half full. --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 00:24, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Anja, you seem like a decent sort and I respect your efforts at brokering a peace. As soon as JRC stop being pro-PKer TSI will have no beef with them (we will just carry on laughing at the claim to rule Crowbank), but as long as Jerden throws in his lot with PKers like FOD and Cobra, we will oppose him and anyone else wearing JRC tags. It seems to me like you're with the wrong group as you're pro-survivor and JRC decidedly isn't. Note that TSI only kills PKers, griefers and zergers.
Jerden, re prudence's zerg alts, just look them up on the Zerg Liste. Prudence himself is currently in the gutter thanks to Mick (who has other tasks to attend to besides JRC), but you'll find the other imposter and assorted pru-zerg alts infesting a burb near you, all a few blocks from each other. As for finding zerger/imposter/griefer alts hilarious, you might want to bear in mind that pru uses a lot of paedophilia-related insults: so if you ''still'' think pru's funny, fuck you.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 16:41, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
:I would like to voice my view on the matter, we do not PK at random. We PK targets that conflict with our interests (such as you and random players opposing Jerdens claim on Crowbank). Every now and then we may also PK specific targets outside of Crowbank in order to maintain relations to allies and friends. Thus we are no more PKers than you guys. The main difference is that we don't try to call it anything else. Which is why we're not categorized as a hostile group on the Crowbank page, it's more complicated than that. --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 18:55, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
::But we did used to kill randomly, you can't deny that Leiter. It's the main reason why we have enemies. Jerden is not a nice person. Anyway, Mallrat, I was just wondering about the zerg thing. I do not find peodophilia funny, so that you know.  --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 20:16, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
:Hey Lambchop, "Prudence Himself" isn't zerg listed and is not a zerg. If you've taken up zerg hunting, try to keep you bullets to actual zergs rather than [[ZHU]] members. That is all. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:13, 21 December 2012 (UTC)</sub>
::Hi Vapor, I see you're being about as mature as usual. It's pretty obvious to anyone with basic reading skills that I'm referring to that well-known purveyor of zerg alts, prudence's (profile numbers of his/her/its alts include 1649951, 1312116, 2069362, 2069363, 2069102, 2069105, 2069365 and 'prudence's' himself, 1437982). I've never encoutered let alone targeted anyone called Prudence Himself from ZHU - but feel free to introduce an element of confusion. That is all. 
::Jerden, interesting to see that your views differ from those of everyone else in your group. :D If you want to be part of the solution rather than part of the problem, you'll show willing by helping us put down pru's zerg alts wherever you find them.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 05:59, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
:::{{*}}headdesk* Ok, go ahead and remain ignorant, Lambchop. Nobody will notice the difference anyway. It's only been like 3 years since this mess started but whatever man. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:46, 21 December 2012 (UTC)</sub>
::::For someone obsessed with lambchops you sure do a lot of bleating. Did I post the profile ID for Prudence of ZHU in my list, above? No... Have I targeted Prudence of ZHU? Again: no... Does anyone think I'm talking about zerg-hunter Prudence, as opposed to zerger prudence's... Apart from you, no... So keep banging your head on your desk, it won't do you any harm.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 05:53, 22 December 2012 (UTC) 
:::::Oh, you decided to catch up with everyone else. Better late than never I suppose. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>23:43, 22 December 2012 (UTC)</sub>
::Newsflash: Leiter's been bitten, fatally it seems. Sadly, another scalp we can't claim for TSI, but hey - I love to be the bearer of good news. :)--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 11:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
:::No way! Jerden's outlook is why his followers love him so- Jerden, never stop being Jerden! You RULE! And trying to 'bargain' with your almighty leader will go nowhere Mallrat- if you really wanted zergs to go away you'd shoot them more than Jerden and his almighty entourage, rather than try and convince him to change his awesome ways! Stay Jerden, Jerden! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:59, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
::::I may find the time in my busy skedule to kill some of the zergs if I see them while roaming the Crowbank area (meaning Crowbank and the suburbs around it). I mean, its still a kill, and definatly worth it! But I'm not going to stop killing people who disagree with me violently. You are guilty of treason, and treason is punishable by death. Also, I was today advised by Moah Lester to get a Kilt. Who thinks it would suit me?--[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 16:16, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
::::: ... --[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 09:27, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::But Jerden!! Zergs are the shell, belonging to a human playing behind that shell... Humans are humans who hurt and bleed and get MAD! The latter is more satisfying surely!! And yes, kilts are fine, my main, DDR, has devoted much of his time to the [[Kilt Store]], as has other people who feature prominently on this page! Though we don't do a great job ''all'' the time, RRF like to pay us visits, so be sure the Mall's open before you trek over! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 15:09, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Yup, bitten and zombified, but I managed to High five Nomatr1... In the face... With a fireaxe... Before I died (unfortunately the wiki was down) '''TSI 11 - JRC 7'''. --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 11:19, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
: leiter, the primary revive point that jerden and i had agreed upon was plummer avenue. that is also the revive point for not just jerden, but for any spanish inquisition members that would like a revive from me. please go there, i will revive you right away. --[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 11:36, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks Anja, we're good right now. Can't say the same for JRC, as you're currently the only one still alive. Jerden, Penguin, Leiter: KIA.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 14:25, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
:::Mallrat, you say that like it's a bad thing! It's really just an inconviniance, unless of course TSI delivered the killing blow, in which case its annoying. Most people only gloat in-game. Anyway, good work Leiter, and thanks for the fasion advice and the insight into zerging from {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}}. I may I'll pop down for a shopping trip when when the stores open. Why wear a suit when you can have '''tartan'''!? Anja, I hope your ellipsis (...) was not of fasion related horror, although I suspect it was. Still, you're entitled to an opinion. --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 17:14, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
:::: i do not want to think of such things. by the way, to jerden and leiter and mall rat and everybody else, anja has wishes you have a good christmas. no fighting is allowed tomorrow, okay? we need to go to the elsbury arms and we need to discuss what the future between jerden group and spanish inquisition. report to that location as soon as possible so i can begin the talks.--[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 04:33, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Yesterday you were all dead, so I guess the fact that Jerden and yourself are back on your feet with a pulse is your Christmas present. :) MERRY CHRISTMAS!--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 05:21, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::Sorry Anja, but I didn't check back here until after I'd given Malodorous Monk a special Christmas present. (Can anyone guess what it was?) And I'd rather talk here than stand around in a building. Even if TSI agree to a truce, someone else will kill me, and I don't blame them. Anyway, 'tis the season to be jolly, and I certainly am jolly. Hope I didn't ruin TSI's Christmas. If I did, they need to lighten up. Merry Christmas everybody! Who liked my speech yesterday? '''TSI 11 - JRC 8'''. Before anyone suggests otherwise, I did spend Christmas with my family. I just got some computer time in the evening. --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 21:44, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::: it would be more convenient for the talks to be on here anyway. oh well. did you get any neat presents, jerden? i got a huge blue blanket. i love blankets. --[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 02:11, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::: I got a Kindle, to hopefully satisfy my desire to read. Anyway, I'd be happy to agree to a truce with TSI (ie, we stop killing each other), but I suspect they'll want ridiculous terms, like "stop killing people you pathetic psycho". People like them are so unreasonable! --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 19:50, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::: jerden! saying such things is not going to help us with diplomacy! --[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 22:20, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::How about staying out of Vinetown and Pegton? If you want to PK people elsewhere, that's up to you, but we will always oppose anyone PKing in our parish.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 16:34, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::You'd really offer those terms? Wow, you're more generous than I thought. I assumed you'd be the type to swear to my destruction as long as I dare take innocent life, and so on. --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 19:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::: i will not accept those terms, jerden. i visited vinetown last night, and i have learned more than enough in my short visit that i decided to stay. vinetown is a mess, and the only people who seem to care about it are sister rita and delacroix, therefore i will support them, in the name of lord jerden of course. mallrat, please rethink your position. if you are only bent on killing me because i am in jerden group, you are no more worse than the zombies in vinetown. i will not jump the ship here because of the spanish inquisition. oh, and on that topic, i would like jerden group to discuss allies with sister rita. mallrat, please help us defend vinetown. --[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 20:27, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Anja, I attacked you in the hope of avenging my friend the smelly Monk. If you're willing to help survivors instead of killing them (as appears to be your inclination in any case), naturally that's different. Let Leiter know, as he's been working with the zombies in attacking Mitchem Mall (being dead and all). Sister Rita and Damon are good friends of TSI going back several years: you're much better off choosing allies like them (MERCY, MDK etc) instead of the likes of Flowers of Decay and Cobra. Follow your pro-survivor instincts and we ''could'' be allies instead of enemies.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 20:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::::And nothing will be made of Crowbank? If JRC are free to do as they wish in Crowbank without TSI intervention, that sounds like a pretty good truce offering (coming from a by-stander) {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 02:12, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::... Let's not look at this rationally, there is a possibility to gain a victory not just by getting what we want, but also by beating their kill count. --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 02:47, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Mm-hmm, DDR is correct. Leiter, you should listen to him.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 07:14, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
The way I see it, this fight is turning, especially with Vinetown almost overrun by Zeds keeping the TSI fighting on two fronts. Sure, I've been dead for almost a week but that doesn't mean I can't make life miserable for the TSI by tearing down their resource points in waiting for a combat revive. Combat revives seems sparse though. I will of course follow the rules of a truce if made. --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 04:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
:You've had a good run recently, true, but we're happy to see you and the penguin stay as zombies: what more can we achieve than having you 'dead'? If you continue to attack the mall, you're doing our PR job for us. FWIW Mick left Anja in peace this morning, taking on the zombies and cading the mall instead.  Anja and Jerden, Mick will not attack you if you are defending the mall or otherwise helping to protect Vinetown ''(extends bedraggled olive branch from somewhere under his grimy robes)''. The same goes for Leiter and Penguinpyro if they decide to change their ways.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 05:50, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
::I will try to get this war into a win for JRC, unless Jerden declares truce. In which way I will either build up JRC in Crowbank or help you guys out in Vinetown, I mean, I have nothing personal against you guys, I just don't like failure (I.E losing a war). --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 07:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
::: This is probably a poor decision, made with me slightly drunk at 3 AM, but this ongoing conflict, updated nearly daily, interests me, and the close scoreboard posted above wakes up the devil in me. I recently killed [http://iamscott.net/1356143961925.html two] [http://iamscott.net/1355945541917.html TSI cardinals]- may I dedicate them to the Jerden group? I think that'll bring JRC 1 kill behind TSI, and well within range to overtake TSI.
:::I suppose this is none of my business, but being a mercenary, seeing a PKer group fighting a larger PKer-hunting group makes me want to give a small contribution. It's the Holidays, after all. Nothing personal, TSI, I just happen to strongly, very, utterly, enormously dislike Spanish Inquisitions. Perhaps you guys burned me alive in an earlier life, who knows? And I don't take kindly to PKer hunting- it's like the witch hunts all over again. Of course, if you don't count any non-group kills, I more than understand, but since I'm not currently affiliated to any group, I don't imagine it'd be cheating too much. Anyway, good luck to you all, and TSI, I'll be sure to visit with more, ahem, confessions, if I get in the area again. --{{User:foxlion/Sig}} 08:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Hi Foxlion. I'm glad our little contest is attracting an audience. :) You're forgetting that if were including kills from each side's allies, we'd have added quite a few extra to our TSI scoreline as well. As with a football game, it doesn't count if spectators or players from other teams pop onto the pitch and try to add a few extra goals. :D --{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 10:08, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

::::hold on, you! foxlion! you are going nowhere! you are coming to vinetown to help me and sister rita defend this mall! you do not have to worry about the spanish inquisition either. --[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 10:03, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::I agree with mallrat, however if you are interested in building something you should join us. Naturally we can't add scores retroactively but I don't think that would be a problem, would it? ;) You've got the conditions for membership on our group page. --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 10:16, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::Leiter's right, no third party kills or it wouldn't work, but foxlion could join JRC for as long as he likes, even if that's just a couple of days. It's one of the rare times I agree with Mallrat (along with no zerging/alt abuse and... er... there's gotta be something else!) So, it seems this will continue. I'll try to maintain the JRC revive point. JRC are catching up, probably because TSI are Pro-survivor and actually fight zombies while Jerden's a selfish bastard. --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 19:23, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::: Hmm, I'm engaged right now in Kempsterbank, in a little personal war with the Knights Templar. I suppose you can tell my dislike for strict religious dogma extends beyond TSI. And yet, I happen to have been killed, and I don't see a revive happening soon in this hostile area. I might as well travel back to Vinetown, and sniper Templars later. It's an interesting proposition. Sorry, Jerden, I can appreciate what you're doing in Crowbank, but I'm planning on applying to the Philosophe Knights, since they've won my admiration, so I probably won't join you permanently unless you guys happen to drug me. But I'm waiting to apply to the PK until the holidays are over, and I don't see any harm in extending that wait for awhile. How about I join you for a few weeks, to even the numbers on both sides? Then I will be back on my way. 
::::::: By the way, is Penguinpyro in your group perhaps "peng" on IRC? I chatted with peng once, and I'm just curious if this is his alt. --{{User:foxlion/Sig}} 20:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::::You are very welcome! PK are considered friends of ours. About the IRC, peng could very well be PenguinPyro, or it could be Mallrat or even Keevan (not likely that last one though). My point being that the IRC link we provide is an open link which anyone can access and choose a temporary name, we do not consider it a safe way of communication. --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 02:33, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
All right, sounds good. I'm in the area now, so as soon as I get a revive, I will put on JRC tags and start shooting. Of course I'm on the Wiki a lot, but private discussions can be sent to msfurbandead@gmail.com, or DSS Satellite Phone, #896-0894. Although I don't check that email too often, so you might want to remind me to check it if you send a message there.

Any rules I should know before I start? Such as the mall being a no-fire zone, or no shooting if the mall is ruined? And how many TSI are we talking about? I know 3. --{{User:foxlion/Sig}} 03:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
:I take it the peace talks are a bust, then? I will let my colleagues know.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 04:03, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
::rules: try to give a one liner when making a kill. That's about the rules I've followed so far, anyone tell me if I've missed anything.--[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 04:33, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
::: Well, that's no problem, since that's my personal policy, too. And by no means let me interrupt your peace talks. If you can work out an agreement, I'll just help hold the mall and move on. Although I may take a few shots at TSI later on my own. --{{User:foxlion/Sig}} 04:42, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
::::What's up, Leiter? One minute you want to give Jerden the say-so, the next minute you change your mind. Who's in charge? Does Jerden even rule JRC, let alone Crowbank? :D FWIW I've told Anja I won't attack her while she's defending Mitchem. What can I say, The Inquisition has principles. With that in mind, Foxlion, you might want to hold fire until Jerden gives his response. There are some zeds inside the NW corner who need evicting.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 04:49, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
::::: foxlion, you come to assist me in defending mitchem mall. this is current situation: the mall is without power, and has three zombies in it, all of them on  northwest corner. sister rita and mercy are here too, and they are helping defend this mall. most of the zombies are some group called nerglings, and are about high to middle in terms of level and skill. this is what i suggest, because there are no necrotech buildings in vinetown and there is portable kill yourself machine near the mall, you can use your syringes here for potential combat revive. this would only buy enough time to work on barricades. the warehouse directly one block west of the northwest corner of the mall is very strongly barricade, so if you lose foot you can enter there. mallrat has said that leiter is trying to destroy the mall, but i have not seen this happen yet. speaking of mallrat, do not get the wrong idea! i am helping mercy and mdk, not the spanish inquisition! what trouble.. --[[User:Anja Arnheim|Anja Arnheim]] 05:19, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::Anja, FYI Leiter has been seen several times attacking the mall as a zombie (he admitted it in one of his previous comments), and zombie Jerden was spotted with him at least once. There's also a revived Nurgling called Ephraim Pitman who's been loitering in the mall, probably arming and GKing.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 06:48, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Jerden's in charge, I just re-read his post stating that this will continue for a while.--[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 06:14, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
: Yes, ma'am. You sure know how to give orders. :D 
: Thanks for the intel. I'll pick up some syringes before I get to Vinetown. And I won't be shooting TSI or survivors until the truce is lifted, so I expect the same courtesy. --{{User:foxlion/Sig}} 06:46, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
::Hmm, let's see: you've killed two cardinals, said how much you hate "religious dogma", joined our current enemies, and you're heading over to our turf having said you'll "take a few shots at TSI later on my own"... Leiter and Jerden have made it clear they want no truce (which is currently just an agreement between Mick and Anja), so you'll have to do better than that to win TSI's trust.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 07:09, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
:::Well, it seems that the mall has all but fallen - half ruined with a small huddle of survivors left. Shame. Couldn't see anyone I knew to revive, but JRC members should be able to head to Plummer avenue if you want a revive, and I'll help if I can. And as for being spotted at the mall as a zombie, well, it's boring and pointless to waste AP standing around doing nothing, but I only went once. --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 19:38, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
:::: I wondered why this talk page was such a text wall, but I realize now it's no wonder with such suspicion and double-doubting. Yes, I've never hidden my dislike or murderous intentions, but I'm willing to wait till the mall is secure and everyone is on guard. Are the TSI, who claim to have 'principles?' 
:::: I believe you were the one who suggested I "hold fire" till something definitive was decided. You also stated TSI would not shoot anyone helping survivors. You may also note my current [http://iamscott.net/1356830961352.html inventory] is tailored to CR and repair, without ammo to kill anything until the mall is fixed and I restock. Of course, I'm ready to join the contest anytime, but please let's make clear whether we are in a truce or not, since that's only fair. Anyway, I don't expect your trust, but if anyone gets a screenshot of me killing one of you before this truce is officially lifted or TSI fires first, then I'm sure you won't hesitate to flaunt it on the Wiki and smear my name. So let that be my statement, until we get a clear sign to fire. --{{User:foxlion/Sig}} 01:41, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::You seem legit, but the problem is that you've not only already attacked us twice without provocation (which Anja never did), but since I asked you to hold fire neither Jerden nor Leiter have expressed any interest in a truce, even on good terms (as DDR noted). Hence my scepticism. You've also now said that we wouldn't hesitate to smear you. Nice. If you want to know if there's a truce or not, you need to lay that question at Jerden's feet. Or Leiter's. Or whoever's in charge. I've already clarified my position.
:::::FYI the talk page here is so long not because of mutual distrust, but because Jerden is a clown, and anyone with taste and sense hates clowns.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 04:37, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


Jesus christ do you people ever shut the fuck up? On another note, it is kind of cute to see you two itty bitty groups going at it.--[[User:SA|SA]] 05:19, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

:All right, well put. This is my last post, until something happens. Mallrat, I'm also not sure if there is a truce or not, and would like it confirmed, too. But as stated, I'll wait for a clear order, and in the meantime, I will be repairing nearby buildings, and either combat reviving, or RP reviving, depending on how full of zombies the mall is. Whether you shoot me or not is your choice, but I won’t, yet. You’re right, if I was not affiliated with JRC, then I wouldn't hesitate to shoot TSI, before or now, since your group name, group goal, and PKer-hunting are provocation to me. But now I’ve promised to help JRC, and although we may not agree on things like PKing, religion, etc, I keep my promises, so you can assume I won't break peace first.  

:I do hope you didn't misunderstand “smear" means I suspect you will Photoshop a fake screenshot. I meant that if I did break my word, you are not the type to take low punches quietly. If I did break the truce first, I feel you would broadcast it very loudly. Hence, my name would be smeared. In other words, I couldn't break my word easily without being blamed for it. 

:And third, perhaps Jerden is light-hearted, but I think that’s why people like him. This is a game after all, and people who don’t take themselves too seriously are much easier to like than people who think themselves too important. Anyone who's mildly intelligent and can see humour in things are pretty likeable, whether they agree or not. In that respect, you're not quite as evil a guy as I assumed TSI Cardinals were, I'll give you that. In case you misunderstand, that's a compliment. ;)--{{User:foxlion/Sig}} 05:36, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
:: Well, [http://iamscott.net/1356847555544.html something] <i>has</i> happened quickly. I'll make this quick. Do you all want to count this kill in the scores and resume hostilities, all sides on guard and warned, or not count this, and continue the truce? I am up for either option, but I'd like some clarity. --{{User:foxlion/Sig}} 06:14, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


==revives==
If you need a revive go to a spot in Crowbank and email me via my user page. I have a guy that can help! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 15:02, 27 October 2012 (BST)

I'll be fine, just revive me if you see me. But I prefer getting revives from fools who don't know me yet. It's impossible for there to not be anyone who'll revive me. [[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 17:24, 29 October 2012 (BST)

== Leiter... ==

... has dropped his JRC tags. Does that mean he's left the 'group'?--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 20:47, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
:I don't know. He hasn't said anything. Why inverted commas around 'group'? Are you saying something negative about JRC?
::What, me? Surely not! :D Just hinting that you appear to be the only member, unless Anja has defected from her own one-man (or one-woman) band to join JRC.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 19:43, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
:::No, she was concidering it but I figured an alliance would be better. Anyway, every group has to start somewhere, and JRC starts with me. Again.
I'm all here, just wanted to see if removing the tag would make any difference in randoms shooting me at sight. It did. But now that experiment is over :) --[[User:Leiter|Leiter]] 22:18, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
:Good to know. I was just on the verge of broadcasting a ceasefire message but there's been a change of plan. :)--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 03:02, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
::Good to know Leiter! Welcome back! --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 18:20, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
:::Seems a bit unleaderlike to leave Crowbank and desert your dead lieutenant, currently begging for a revive while you swan around with some 'real' PKers. If you've gone to Stanbury Village I may have to send Thurston Mallrat on tour so that Mick can come over and say hello to you over there. :)--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 05:25, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
::::Leiter was alive and well when I last saw him. Anyway, if the queen gets to travel the world, I don't see why I can't make exciting new enemies a few suburbs away. It's not like Crowbank will collapse without me! It's not like I actually run the place! --[[User:Jerden|Jerden]] 17:02, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

== Hail Jerden ==

{{SoNinvite‎}} ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:40, 7 November 2012 (UTC)</sub>

== Organization XIII ==

would like to count JRC as one of our allies.  We recognize that Jerden does truly rule Crowbank and only the disillusioned fail to grasp this.  We too are not locked into a single play style and appreciate like-minded groups. Let us know your thoughts on this alliance either: here, [[Talk:Organization_XIII | our talk page]], or our [http://organizationxiiiud.proboards.com/index.cgi forum].  Thanks, --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 04:02, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
:Sounds good.  With the Sith of November in full swing, I figure there is plenty happening.  Once it has ended, we'll see what we can do about getting Crowbank in-line. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 14:11, 12 November 2012 (UTC)