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==20080604 Protect v2==

[[User:Deyo|Deyo]] 21:06, 4 June 2008 (PDT)

'''Suggestion type'''<br />
Action

'''Suggestion scope'''<br />
Survivors

'''Suggestion description'''<br />
Add an action to the Survivor menu: "Protect [ ]"  This allows a large enough group of survivors to protect a high-value item, a trained healer or reviver, or a nefarious killer whose bounty has climbed to <font color=red>KOS</font>.

The bracket is a drop-down which gives the following selections:
* All Survivors in the same location (like Attack/FAK)
* All destroyable objects in the same location (like Attack)

Cost: 2 APs

Effect: Until your next action, you are "protecting" the target in the first bracket, by shielding it with your own body.  Any <b>one</b> attack which targets that object or person targets you instead, and will have a <b>15% greater chance to hit</b>, though armor applies as normal.  After you "take the shot", you are no longer protecting the target.  If multiple survivors are protecting the same target, they will each take one attack, in the order that their Protect actions were queued.

This would give a large number of survivors the option of protecting a target from a small number of intruders.  Any large force intent on wiping out survivors will be virtually unaffected by this action.  Voters will immediately deduce that I am trying to prevent GKing by roaming zombie-survivors, and will be absolutely correct.  <b>This version omits any attack element, automatic or otherwise.</b>  It also differs from "Over My Dead Body" in that the protect action only happens once, <i>and</i> increases the attacker's chance of scoring a hit against <i>someone</i>.  Also, some votes on OMDB seemed to think that it voided the attack altogether, which was not the case, although I had to read the description multiple times before I saw that myself.

==Voting Section==
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'''Keep Votes'''
#'''Keep''' - Author vote.  Zombie players and PKers claim that GKers have little to no real effect on the game except to irritate survivors.  Let's see them put their votes where their mouths are. -- [[User:Deyo]] 21:06, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
#'''Keep''' - now that this has been revised so that it is more like taking the bullet it seems far more balanced. --[[User:Deathnut|Lt.G Deathnut]] <sup> [[freelance]] </sup> 06:57, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - well, why not. Even that nerfed it can make protecting generators possible. [[User:Leon Clinton|Leon Clinton]] 09:59, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Makes sense. --[[User:Pgunn|Pgunn]] 13:19, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Pgunn.  Would be nice to be able to protect generators. Adds a new element to the game.  Yes Generators are legitimate targets - that's why it makes sense that survivors would try to protect them. --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 21:24, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Eh...--[[User:Jamie Cantwell3|<span style="color: DARKRED">Jamie Cantwel3</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Jamie Cantwell3|<span style="color: DARKGREEN">Talk</span></sup>]]''All glory to the Hypnotoad!'' 14:49, 6 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Sure. Reasonable. --[[User:BoboTalkClown|BoboTalkClown]] 22:05, 6 June 2008 (BST)


'''Kill Votes'''
#'''Change''' - Make it so that you can only protect inanimate objects like generators, but ''not'' people, and you get my Keep. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 09:52, 5 June 2008 (BST) (Well, maybe: the other Kill &amp; Spam voters are making other valid points against this. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 12:17, 5 June 2008 (BST))
#'''Kill''' - Generators are legitimate targets during sieges, and with this change, zombies will never be able to know whether it's worth them attacking the generator, because they can't know how many survivors are piled on top of it (how many AP's it will take to destroy) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:09 5 June 2008 (BST)</small>
#'''Change''' - Better this time, but take away the survivor protecting thing (as Funt) and make it so that you can see how many survivors are protecting an object. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 10:31, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Change''' - As Funt. --[[User:Bob_Fortune|Sir Bob Fortune]] <sup>[[Red Rum|RR]]</sup> 21:36, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Interesting, but this seems open to spam abuse.  Also, who is really gonna take a zombie claw for a generator?  (Sidenote:  after reading this one I got the mental image of a conga line of survivors leaping up one by one to protect a genny, like some kind of Broadway choreography.)--[[User:Jiangyingzi|Jiangyingzi]] 21:58, 5 June 2008 (BST)


'''Spam/Dupe Votes'''
# '''Spam''' - You wanna "protect" a person? Heal them. You wanna "protect" a genny? Repair it. This suggestions allows you do to something that the game engine already covers -- but for an abusurdly reduced AP cost. No. Do it the old fashioned way: FAK 'em. Or repair/replace the genny. And... Or.... ''play smarter and hide better!'' Sheesh. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 11:24, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#:{{S|'''Spam''' Why? how would that give you a bonus?}} unsigned vote struck --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 13:23, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - Only if zombies can tear out the light fittings. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 13:23, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - Or munch on the electrical wires. --[[User:Aeon17x|Aeon17x]] 14:27, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - Still a shit idea. --[[User:The Hierophant|The Hierophant]] 18:40, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - Better v.2, but as WanYao.  {{User:BillyClubThorton/signature}} 18:59, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Spammy''' - As WanYao. -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 19:30, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''SPAM''' - as above.  --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 22:17, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - as WanYao. --{{User:Cryptosporidium/sig}} 22:47, 5 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - as WanYao. --[[User:Officer Dick Trickle|Officer Dick Trickle]] 16:51, 6 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - As WanYao. --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 20:55, 6 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - as YanWao --[[User:Druuuuu|Druuuuu]] <sup style="font-size:70%">[[User:Druuuuu/Ocular|Oc]][[User talk:Druuuuu|T]][[Red Rum|RR]]</sup> 02:25, 7 June 2008 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - As above. --{{User:Midianian/Sig}} 08:38, 8 June 2008 (BST)

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