View source for Suggestion talk:20090216 Ring the Bell

===Taken from [[Developing Suggestions]]===
{{suggestionNew
|suggest_time={{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 07:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
|suggest_type=Gameplay element
|suggest_scope=Survivors
|suggest_description=Allows survivors to ring the bell found in church & cathedral belltowers. Has the same effect as a flare.

Cannot be done in a ruined church.
|discussion=|}}
====Discussion (Ring the Bell)====
Seems pretty harmless. What's the flavor text? {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 09:31, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, right. ''You ring the church bell'', ''You climb the bellfry and ring the cathedral bells'', ''The bell is blocked by rubble, you cannot ring it until the building is repaired'', ''You cannot reach the cathedral bells until the building is repaired'', ''You hear a church bell rining [Number] blocks [Direction] and [Number] blocks [Direction].'', and ''You hear a cathedral bell ringing [Number] blocks [Direction] and [Number] blocks [Direction].'' --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 09:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
::Its a bit spammy but if you allow the zombie who ruins the building to gesture defiantly for everyone nearby to see then you get a keep from me ''"With an awful clang you cast the bell from its tower and bellow triuphantly at the city below"'' Almost as pointless as making the noise but would at least allow the gathered horde to see your victory.--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 09:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

It should definitely have a shorter range than a flare, only 5 blocks or so. Also, I think you should have to fix the bell separately after fixing the building. It shouldn't be cheap either, somewhere around 10AP sounds about right to me. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 15:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:That sounds much better. Any more and it would just become useless spam. How much does it cost to ring the bell? {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 20:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
::I was thinking 1, maybe even 2 AP. --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 22:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Higher cost. something like 5ap. It takes 10 to spraypaint a billboard, remember these things are heavy. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Good point. 5 it is! --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 22:45, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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::::::Yeah but 5 is a multiple of 5. I'm a freak like that.--[[User:Mkgeeeeze|Mkgeeeeze]] 01:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::[[wikipedia:Law of fives|Law of fives]]? Just for that, you get my vote. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 02:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, wait. Now it's 10AP to fix the bell, 5AP to ring it, with a range of 5 squares. And after all that, it's just a flare with flavor text and a fixed location. Do you think making it so AP-intensive will mean people ''won't'' just ignore it, the same way 90% of people ignore flares? I think this has been re-worked into uselessness, if it wasn't useless to start with. {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 19:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:I was thinking more of a distance of 10 blocks, roughly the size of a suburb. It's still shorter than a flare, but makes the churches more useful.--{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 04:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::Let's get one thing straight. I was talking about [[wikipedia:radius|radius]], not [[wikipedia:diameter|diameter]]. With the block structure of UD, diameter is ''2 * r + 1'' (the diameter can't be odd if it's centered on one block). A radius of 5 blocks means an 11x11 block area, a bit over one suburb. A radius of 10 means an area of 21x21 blocks, which is a bit over four suburbs. Flares have a radius of 14 blocks, covering almost nine suburbs. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>¦[[User talk:Midianian|T]]¦[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]¦[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]¦</sup></small> 10:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Oooohhhh, a 5 block ''radius''. That's OK! --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 11:41, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
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