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NPOV: this page is a historical collection of pictures of asses and dinosaur Jesus. It used to be [[Talk:The_Dead_(First_Generation)|The Dead talk page]]. End of NPOV

==This is all the crap from the old Talk page for the Dead.==
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== '''<span style="color: red;"><u>Warning</u></span>''' ==
Posting to this page may be hazardous to your health.  The members of The Dead will not be held responsible for any consequences that may result from responses to your post.  If you are incapable of handling being laughed at and ridiculed by people who do not like you, get the fuck out.  You have been warned.

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== Goonie Tears ==
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HEY CHUNK DO THE TRUFFLE SHUFFLE

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Say it isn't so! please! say it ain't so. Just today I witnessed this poor, poor goonie frustrated and whining. I was flabergasted to say the least! Goonies do not take this shit seriously and should not feel as though they should give up.
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While another had this to say about thier struggle to get into [[Image:Dinosaur.jpg.gif]] Dewes (which they finally trashed in the end anyway. Zergs? Bots? who dares stand against the mighty horde of goons??
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:Look at you, trying so hard to be a dramawhore.  It's absolutely precious.  And thanks for the 10 bux.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 16:00, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:It's true, the private thread on our forum is 90% crying about how we can't accomplish our goals and 10% posts by our angry leaders trying to get the horde to fall in line, which, inevitably, they don't.  It's pretty much over for us, you survivors can go back to your normal routine now.  Don't worry, we'll close the door on our way out.  --[[User:Butters Scotch|Butters Scotch]] 16:52, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:Paying 10bux for a FORUM?! Outrageous! [[User:Rotting TRex|Rotting TRex]] 17:04, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:Really? We ended up trashing it anyway? Cool! When I called it a night, we were still seeing the barriers magically repair themselves. Hall still standing?
:Damn, must suck to be a survivor.
::On the bright side, the survivor percentage is UP 2%! W00t! Go Team Survivor! PLUS you have doubled your revive stack!
::Face it guys, we are fucked. Might as well just let our characters time out. These 1337 RPers have us whipped! --[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 17:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Hahah What a hypocrite!  Joining a forum not for the humor but just to see what we're doing! Anyways nice fake photoshops.  Since you're now a goon, Reefer, I'd recommend other sections of the website.  You won't find a better Games Forum, Debate Forum, or anything of that sort in all of the internet.  When you decide to travel deeper into the rabbit hole let me know so I can finally stop making fun of your pitiful attempts of getting attention.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 17:54, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

:Since '''when''' has there been a REPORT button? Did I miss an update or something? --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 18:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:: About the same time they added the 'Ban History' and 'Post History' feature. /nodnod --[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 19:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
::::heh. its quite humorous how, out of billions of somethingawful members, you all automatically assume someone with access to your UD cockslapping thread would have to be a new SA member and would never think to play this game unless its to follow your group. Anyway, Who was the idiot that changed my images that I worked so hard on? -- [[User:Rebelreefer/Goonies|RebelReefer]] 18:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:Plz qiut editing R pages after R LAeders fix them....cause that iz WikiVandilism n shit. K? --[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 19:02, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
::I wasn't editing your page. I was editing my comment. Thanks [[Image:Jesus-and-dinosaur1.jpg]] for being so courteous though. I nearly cried. --[[User:Rebelreefer/Goonies|RebelReefer]] 19:02, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Ur trying 2 break our page! Ur a cheater! CHEATER! I hope they ban u for zerginf!--[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 19:12, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
::::please, you're just being extra foolish now. --[[User:Rebelreefer/Goonies|RebelReefer]] 19:14, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Stop cheating Rebel!  Yur now reported for cheatin zerginh fagget.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 19:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::Righto ScoobyDooDoo. Thaaats right, I went the way of the doodoo. Change my image again and I'll report you...or probably not since there's hundreds of you goons and loosing one just wont make my cheating, zerging, fagget self any better off. --[[User:Rebelreefer/Goonies|RebelReefer]] 19:14, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Lulz, U cant rep0rt us! U R defacing r pristine talk page, u faggt! (Wheeee! How many indents till it wraps?)--[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 19:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I wanna cast a magic missile! --[[User:Snaip|Snaip]] 20:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Sometimes I wish my last name was George, but sadly I know it never will be. Great photoshops by the way.--[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]] 21:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== Pack it up guys we're done ==

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I can hardly type through my salty tears, guess we should just give up now. :( :( :( *loads shotgun places in mouth* [[User:Rotting TRex|Rotting TRex]] 17:14, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== Girls ==
Girls!

Pssssh, no girls on Urban Dead Wiki. *cracks beer*, *changes tampon*, *loses another mall to crap defense strategies* --[[User:Dragon Jones|Dragon Jones]] 19:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

WHAT!....oh well...*Half heartedly masterbates to Asian internet porn*, *a tear wells in one eye*, *sobs* --[[User:Glovey Joe|Glovey Joe]] 10:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

==Truce==
If any so called leader of a survivor group wants to sit down and negotiate a treaty or terms of surrender let us know.
We have a nice quiet library that we can all meet at and talk, why not. 
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Wipe your feet before entering our library please and don't reshelve your own books.--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 02:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:I dono... are those zombies pacifists? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, as much as an angry mob can be.... --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 03:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::: Hey, we just went to check out a few picture books and found the doors locked. Not our fault that our zombie rage took over.--[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 03:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:Unthinkable! We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Malton, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our city, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!

:Seriously, though, you can't have actually thought everyone would suddenly want to surrender just because you ruined Quartly Library.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 03:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::The sooner you walking bags of meat tell us where the last 3 christmas trees are, the sooner we will negotiate your surrender.  --SpaceJesus
:::You should know that we'll never do that. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Trees are the source of books! Our anger is at BOOKS and by extension trees! And Scott - there is this little thing called '''SARCASM'''. Maybe we should make a WIKI page off the [[pubbie]] page linking to a definition to help you out there.--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 03:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Sorry, sarcasm is rather difficult to communicate through text.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 03:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::True. But, come on. Do you really think we would let you all surrender? Where is the fun in that? Not as much screaming and crying in that.--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 04:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::There's no rape either. [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 14:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::4 Trees now. --[[User:ZSandmann|ZSandmann]] 20:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh cool thanks for posting this DCC.  I was playing from work when I took the ss and the gay netnanny or whatever they use blocks wiki's for some reason. --[[User:DrPain|DrPain]] 23:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
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Oh the legend and the love of the [[QSG|Quartly Librarians]] ! My group of 18 librarians was destroyed by the predominant horde ! You guys are just another in a series of hordes that has used us, made us theirs, and then forgot to call us in the morning. [[The_apocalypse_horde|The Apocalypse Horde]] said they'd call us back, they said we were their special ones. But it only lasted a couple months. Then the [[RRF|neighbors]] decided they needed to annex us and they said that we were part of their homeland. We thought we were family. But then they tossed us aside for some flirtatious [[Mall_Tour_%2707|Mall Tour]] spreading their love about town. Because we have had many zombie hordes and many zombie suitors, but there is only one zombie you. [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]]
:If it makes you feel any better, we promise to visit again next time we are in town. --[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 03:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::"My pubbies sucked 37 hordes' dicks!"  "In a row?" --[[User:MonkeyMortis|MonkeyMortis]] 12:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh my dear MonkeyMortis, you make it sound cheep. Each one is special. Every time I have to roleplay ''standing up'' is a magical moment of my day. Aww... [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=537037 I've] died more than a hundred times in this game, and each one was precious... and ''your'' special embrace made my heart weep. But my good man Doohickeybones, what do you mean visit again ''next'' time? You told us we needed some milk and butter for dinner. We had the impression that you were going to be staying with us? Is it something we did? Are we too fat? Is it our sideburns? [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]]
::::No, it is just that you were all, well, dead...and other people weren't.
:::::We aren't here to socialize. We are here to wipe out every survivor in the game. This doesn't leave time for tea and crumpets. If everyone would just quit using those damn needles, it would all be over so much faster. 
::::::Well, that and people need to quit pulling christmas trees out of their asses. Can't very well allow christmas trees to stay up year round, after all.--[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 17:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::All We wanted from our special new horde was a little ''You maul Sir Fred of Etruria for 3 damage, and grab hold of his heart. They drop to 38 HP''. Instead you gave us ''Your attack does no damage. You lose your grip on Sir Fred of Etruria''. At least you let us know that it wasn't our sideburns. It reassures us in a tender way. [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]]

==Hey "Bill" "Striker"and everyone else==
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:--[[User:DrPain|DrPain]] 18:13, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::I lol'd. [[User:JaundiceDave|JaundiceDave]]

==SOMETHING AWFUL DOT COM==

Jesus, are you guys incapable of receiving any good-natured comments directed at The Dead without trolling all concerned to shit? Seriously, you're worse than *channers. I mean, sure, I enjoy the whole 'zombie apocalypse' aspect you're bringing to the game, but could you be a little less obnoxious and abrasive? I'd assume there is a contingent of SA trolls that have air-dropped in with the rest of you goons, if it weren't for the fact that the dead seem so undivided. 

Also, you ate me. Twice. 

[[User:Shackleton|Shackleton]]
: Right. Here is a clue for ya. We have a contingent of loud and obnoxious types...and as a result, the vast sweltering mass of pubbies doesn't take us seriously. They lose focus, and allow themselves to be drawn in to pointless pissing contests when they should be looking for ways to hold us back. They dismiss us as errant children incapable of cohesive tactics, and fail to see the gibbering, snarling, creeping doom as it festers it way across the landscape.
: Plus, it just just lots of fun to see the internet idiots' virtual blood pressure spike through the roof.

: The Zombie <s>Overlords</s> Protectors may very well take me out back and put a spike through my brain for revealing this blindingly obvious- yet obviously overlooked- fact...except of one simple truth: It doesn't matter that I scribe it here for eternity. Most of the fools that happen upon this page will ignore it and continue to be baited and danced around on their marionette strings.--[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 03:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::My efforts have not suffered as a result of my presence here. However, they ''have'' suffered because my characters are all low level.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 03:32, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::: Well, no. SOME of you are obviously smart enough and mature enough to see past the clown makeup. Your problem is that that you are in the extreme minority. You should just surrender and join us. Joooooin us!
:::: P.S. We have Cake!--[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 03:36, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::My mannerisms have put me in the minority for most of my life (kind of sad, now that I think of it). As for joining you: sorry, but I'm a sucker for losing causes. When/if you guys start getting beat, I'll be right there alongside you, getting head-shotted again and again.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 04:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::::: you are being this gay [[image:majorCOCK.jpg]] turn it down a bit--[[User:Cymoro|Cymoro]]
:::::Don't lie to the pubbies like that when it's common knowledge that all we have are beers to *drink* and shotguns to *reload*. --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 05:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Every group of 1500 people is going to have a few loudmouthed assholes.  --[[User:Butters Scotch|Butters Scotch]] 02:19, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:They've eaten each of my four characters at least once. And judging by the game stats, we should count ourself lucky.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 02:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::You guys are nothing but SA 'tards that live in their mother's basement jacking off to gay porn.  Go ruin a different game like RuneScape or something.--[[User:KhSora|KhSora]]
::: Mommy took our gay porn away. That is why we are here. Post pics, plz? --[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 03:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I mean that, of course, in a totaly HETERO way. Fag. --[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 03:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::That shows how little you know.  ''I'' live in the attic.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 03:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

==Ingame Politics==
This is awesome.

Don't get me wrong, all you people who have been here for years. I think that if you want to play the game some way, have fun with it. But if it changes, don't get angry.  You've all had very little, VERY little to worry about for far too long.  For years, all you've had to do was dive for the nearest green section and then RP to your heart's content. But with the growing efficiency of zombie groups and zombie buffs applied by Kevan, the game has neared what the subtitle on the UD main page claims it is- "A Massively Multi-Player Web-Based Zombie Apocalypse".  If there is no challenge to a game, if the defenders outnumber the attackers by 2:1, then how is it a fun game? How is it challenging?

The long and short of it is: It's not.  The addition of massive groups such as "The Dead" has done more to increase the danger and skill needed of this game than anything since the zombie barricade buff.  Currently, when you look at the suburb map, you see a sea of red, with a few small survivor safe suburbs in the north.  A wave of zombies may or may not be attacking you as I write this.  This is how a zombie apocalypse should be. Sitting around, hiding in safe suburbs '''will and should not''' get you anywhere. With the current zombie count, the only way for you to survive is to organize and/or to get out of the line of fire.  If you sit down whining when a wave of zombies streams through your front door, they will '''not''' do anything to stop the attack. They will not have a reasoned discussion with you. They will eat your brain.  They're winning, and getting angry will do nothing to help you.

You have two options. The first one is to man up, organize (or join an already-organized group), do your best to help them. Conduct intelligence and scouting missions to ascertain the best course of action. Have a dedicated group leadership to make decisions for you.  In short, act like a real human would in such a crisis.

The second option is to stay isolated, to try and push back the waves of the undead with nothing but your angry words. This course will undoubtedly end in your brains being eaten.

Your choice.--[[User:Kingofallpie|Kingofallpie]] 04:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok this is gonna be alittle long but I ask that you read this statement fully before commenting and also don't just say something stupit like "F You, Your Gay, etc" because that will serve no point but to start a wiki war and thats not the goal of this.

Ok you all have be around for awhile and destroyed a majority of the games suburbs but at what cost? Sure I know you all hate us for some reason and feel like you all can come in and be the bully and mess up everything and you have succeeded at part of you goal of breaking the game but if you all want to kill off every survivor let me speak for us all in saying that you will not succeed. So with that stated, since its not possible to kill us all off what will it take to get you all to leave and go back to your forum and leave us along here?

The second thing I want to know is why are you all being such "Assholes" to everyone on this wiki? I can understand the little flame wars that pop up but even when someone has something nice to say you all proceed to cussing them and calling them a "Pubbie" so what gives there? Are you all here just to try to prove to yourselfs that you are superior at a low tech browser game, if so than wow you all have no life.

Well I've said my piece and will not be getting to involved in this so don't try to take this out on me because I've got a easter weekend to enjoy and will not let any of you mess it up but I leave this mater open to who ever wants to discuss it mater. --[[User:Major Striker|Major Striker]] 02:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:You know, none of this is our fault.  People like you felt the need to start shit with us and now you're crying because you can't handle the consequences of your actions.  If it wasn't for that none of us would have ever bothered coming here and you could have gone on giving each other reach arounds because of how awesome you are.  You want someone to blame, why don't you try looking at where this all started.

:I'd like to take a moment to apologize for my words to you from the other day.  At the time I had no idea that you are a barely functional retard and I shouldn't have made fun of you.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 03:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

:This whole elitist attitude is just an act. A very entertaining act, I must say. Don't take it too seriously. You'll end up getting heart attack otherwise. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 03:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

:"Bill Striker", we are "being" "assholes" because it "evokes" "responses" "like" "yours" and then we "giggle" about it in our private "forum."  This rapetrain runs on your tears. --[[User:DrPain|DrPain]] 04:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

:"This rapetrain runs on your tears." Sweet, can I steal that from you?--[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 18:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

:Hahaha, I was joking when I posted that, but then I checked the private thread and they really are laughing at you, "Bill Striker" --[[User:DrPain|DrPain]] 04:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

:I give this clown two days before he starts itching to play again and jumps back into it.  You spend as long as him creating elaborate personas that let him live out his fantasies of being a fleet admiral (in the middle of a freaking city?), you can't resist this shit.  It's your drug, Bill. [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 05:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:Cry More--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 10:42, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
::Rudiger - it looks like he is SERIOUS! He's QUITTING!  He is taking his Airsoft Guns and going home now!--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 20:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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Well I've got one more thing to say to this group before I quit the game and that is FUCK YOU ASSHOLES YOU ALL SUCK AND I HOPE YOU GAY ASS FORUM CRASHES BITCHES. Thats all I have to say to this group but to everyone else that is on this wiki and not in this group, good bye and good luck. --[[User:Major Striker|Major Striker]] 19:32, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:Who wants to make a pool on when this guy comes back and claims this meltdown was more "disinformation" because that's been stopping us so well so far amirite? --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 21:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


Hey guys, would you mind taking that picture making fun of Major Striker‎ down? you've had your fun, can't you cut the guy some slack? thanks.--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 01:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:F You, Your Gay, etc [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 01:37, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::I am gay because I am trying to be nice? How does that work. In anycase I thank you for your time.--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 01:39, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Have you actually read anything written by this guy?  Obviously not since you don't seem to understand the reference kid sinister is making.  He came here, to our talk page, to try his hand at attacking us and didn't like the results.  If it will make you feel better, maybe we could add a warning to the top of the page telling people to stay the fuck out if they can't handle the consequences of their actions.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 01:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::::The consequences of their actions being, of course, generic insults usually involving sexual slurs.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 01:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I have indeed read the "Ingame Politics" section, and do agree he was very much out of line. But he is sorry, and has already posted the picture he made in retaliation up for deletion. couldt you guys cut him some slack? be the bigger man, or men as it were.--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 01:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::: ~*`-ur gay-`*~ (DCC wishes he had posted this) 
::::::ahahahaha holy SHIT are you naive!  With the number of times this douchebag has flipflopped, you can still think that's actually sincere? [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 02:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::naive? No, I just like to help out around here, helping those who dont know all the rules and guidelines this wiki has.--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 02:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: you also roleplay being a zookeeper for furries in a zombie apocalypse so no one cares thanks (DCC APPROVES OF THIS  COMMENT)
:::::::::You should sign your posts, you just have to click the button second from the right, or type for "~", in any case, yes I am a zookeeper, and love being so, furry? not so much, but to each his own.--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 02:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Where in the "rules and guidelines" does it cover faggots saying "screw you guys, I'm leaving", then coming back 20 minutes later?  Face it, Striker is beyond your "help", you naive furry faggot.  God damn, even pedophiles are into the same species at least... [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 02:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Please if you are going to insult us, then at least get your facts straight, furries are into people in animal costumes....us zookeepers are just into animals,y admitting to being a horsefucker? [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 02:29, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Nope, I just dont care, most of the zookeepers are like that, we just want to have fun, you should vist our forum...oh by the way, I sheep better.--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 02:33, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::holy shit get the fuck out you roleplaying faggot (not made by DCC but he endorses this statement) 
:::::::::::::::again you should learn to sign your posts. but roleplaying? heh, far from it my friend we just sit around and do shit all, everyday.--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 02:39, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::He's not going to sign his posts, guy. Kindly screw off.--[[User:Bullstuff|Bullstuff]] 08:22, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Let me help you out here. I'll add to the unsigned comments that I agree with. --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 09:13, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::Haha, its funny when they cant win in game so they try to win on the wiki. Not quite sure who or what your group is, but it gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside when the suburb map goes red. BB2 salutes you! keep shambling, Zahmbahz! --[[User:Danalov|Danalov]] 10:33, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::"my friend we just sit around and '''discuss animal rape''', everyday.--'BPTmz 02:39, 23 March 2008 (UTC)"  Fixed that for you there, friend.  No need to thank me.  --[[User:MonkeyMortis|MonkeyMortis]] 18:36, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::This is awesome though.  IF you want to RP a zombie survivor, it's alot more realistic to be oarding your last ammo, and running out of FAK's and needles, because there is no one who can help you.  It's nice seeing entire suburbs blacked out, and full of ruined buildings.  I for one, want to thank you, SA. [[User:Shinysheep|Shinysheep]] 18:06, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

==It's not what you do, it's how you do it==
Okay, for what it's worth, I kind of like the shake up that you guys have given to the game. Agreed, it was in danger of becoming stale. BUT - what I find totally objectionable, (and thus worthy of some major urine extraction) is the self rightious and pompous way you have justified doing it. Pubbies, Loads shotguns, sips beer? 

C'mon, what the smeg is all that about - just some crappy self created slang that you have created on your SA forums to make YOU feel superior to some anonymous people on the net who, if you met in real life wouldn't DARE to say a single word to. "Ooh, ooh, they're not one of US - the kewl peeps, they're just a 'pubbie'.  

Get a fecking life. Seriously. The net makes you stupid right? And so it has for you SA goons, in that thinking that you are in any way, shape or form, better than someone who wishes to use it for a purpose outside of how YOU think some insignificant (in the REAL world) game should be played. 

Yeah, I role play - what gives? It's just a bit of fun I do in my spare time between my real life WORK. On the other hand, YOU seem to want to make it into some kind of competitive pursuit in which you have to break the game and WIN, WIN, WIN! 

(Pfft!) Please! Go and play squash whilst listening to Spandau Ballet's 'Gold' instead like some moronic 80's throwback. -- 23.57, 21 March 2008 [[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]

:Inferiority complex anyone?--[[User:DrPain|DrPain]] 00:10, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

No, not at all, inferiority to what exactly? I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just telling you what I think of you all. -- 00.21, 21 March 2008 [[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]
: *leans back*
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: *sips mojito*

More SA shite eh? (Now what's a mojoto when it's at home? Who's role-playing now eh? - heh, keep it coming! -- 00.32, 21 March 2008 [[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]
::"And so it has for you SA goons, in that thinking that you are in any way, shape or form, better than someone who wishes to use it for a purpose outside of how YOU think some insignificant (in the REAL world) game should be played."
:The irony here is so thick it could choke a donkey.  And we were not the ones who created *load shotgun*, *drink beer*, or *have in-game wedding*.  We just think those are really really stupid things to do.  --[[User:John Fraker|John Fraker]] 00:36, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Ahhh, YOU think they're stupid things to do eh? And who elected YOU as the arbiter of what is or isn't stupid to do whilst playing Urban Dead? -- 00.40, 21 March 2008 [[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]
:Easy there big fella!  You seem to be taking this very personally.  Have you thought about taking a time out and maybe finding something else to do for a while?  Getting yourself so worked up over a game can be bad for your health.  --[[User:John Fraker|John Fraker]] 01:02, 22 March 2008 (UTC):::::: 
::Of course he's taking it personally. You've declared that something he likes to do is stupid, which is the same as calling him stupid.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 01:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:::i'm cool with that
::::its like we said touching little kids is wrong and then he got mad because that is his hobby--[[User:Cymoro|Cymoro]]
:::::Did you just compare role-playing to child molestation?--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 03:25, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::yep
:::::::There's a difference?--[[User:Bullstuff|Bullstuff]] 10:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:A secret no pubbies court of goons elected a secret no pubbies council as "the arbiters of what is or isn't stupid to do whilst playing Urban Dead".  In a secret no pubbies vote unanimous decisions were made on the stupidity of *sipping beer*, *loading shotgun*, and *having ingame weddings with a guy playing a character who's a female zombie*.  Does that satisfy your pathetic pubbie plebe whining questions? --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 02:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

:::::: *touches little boy, strokes penis* -- 7.20, 21 March 2008 [[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]
::::::: Whoops! Now did you really, REALLY want to do that? You don't know me, and I don't know you...... Over a GAME????? Think it over........A wiki war is one thing, but a slur on my personal character is another.... I think an apology is in order.....::::::  --[[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]] 01:02, 22 March 2008 (UTC)::::::
::::::::Getting angry won't help, it just encourages them. Besides, it's a simple edit to give credit where credit is due.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 02:16, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
:This guy is so pissed off and fucked up. You should use your free time to find those fucking syringes instead of making a useless rant. I advice that you should get a fucking life. --'''<span style="color: red; background-color:{{{3|transparent}}}">[[User:Bartholomew Kuma|Violent-kun]]</span>''' 01:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Nah, I don't think so. Instead I'm going to use my free time going over to London instead this weekend. Have fun role-playing this Easter with your slang words and 10 buck forums for 'super special' professional game players. (Pfft! Whatever those are)   --[[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]] 13:31, 22 March 2008

==Historical Records==
Although I am a dedicated survivor, I also happen to like writing histories about major tactical and strategic events that occur in-game. If The Dead would make sure to keep in mind what they were thinking and doing and when, and share that information with us when it is all over, we'd love to see the play of the strategic minds against each other. [[User:Tarumigan|Tarumigan]] 9:00, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Honestly it boils down to "Hey we're going to [suburb]" or "We're going to attack this mall at [time]".  There's not much rhyme nor reason to it. [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 01:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, Tarmi! First we get out the tarot cards and tea leaves. Then we draw straws and see whose turn it is to impersonate you on the radio. After several APs of "stirring speeches" that end with "I love cock. Man Love Rules OK- Tarumigan Out!" we get down to business and say "let's kill this suburb today".  

Seriously, all of our strategy means nothing. Just look at our results.--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 04:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:I for one do a lot of complex and involved calculations before I brain crippled, chained up puppies with a sledgehammer. --[[User:Zambargh the Ravener|Zambargh the Ravener]] 05:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

==Most Popular Private Page on Urban Dead==
Thank you Wiki Warriors!--ScoobyDooDoobie
:"Wiki Warriors" has a nice ring to it. Kind of reminds me of the "Dream Warriors" from the Nightmare on Elm Street franchise. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 18:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Don't be so modest; we came because of the psychotic rampage, but we stayed for your unique blend of hating everyone and swearing at the top of your lungs.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 01:00, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::Fuckpocket chucklehead ! Get your faggot ass off our talk page! (thanks for visitin')--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 04:19, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::VENT my dear boy! Let it all out! --[[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]] 12:57, 21 March 2008 (GMT)
The survivors are really pissed of that they can't get a revive. And because they can't do anything ingame, they attacked The Dead in their wiki page. --'''<span style="color: red; background-color:{{{3|transparent}}}">[[User:Bartholomew Kuma|Violent-kun]]</span>''' 13:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Nah,I just like taking the mickey out of them! --[[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]] 13:29, 21 March 2008 (GMT)
:::::Oh so you're just a moron.  I get it now. [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 05:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

==Sup Mikhail==
How's it goin buddy?
:[[Image:mikhail.jpg]]
--[[User:DrPain|DrPain]]
::::::::::[[Image:Huwoahuh.gif]]
--[[User:JaundiceDave|JaundiceDave]]

==*Sips Beer*==
hey guys whats goin on in this wiki?
-[[User:SpaceJesus|SpaceJesus]]

not much how are you?--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 04:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

==Disclaimer==
Cocks cocks cocks cocks cocks, I just can't get enough cocks!
-[[User:Mornacale|Mornacale]]

==The Cheating Begins==
It's sad to say that it was only a matter of time, but it was only a matter of time. The pubbies have started creating zergs to combat us. [http://profiles.urbandead.info/index.php?name=gid%20*&page=1 Gid*]. There are about 300 of those little fuckers at least.--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 03:29, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:I would be lying if I said I were surprised.--{{User:Gregarious Instigator/sig}} 03:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::I hope he realises he'll have to donate like 1,500 dollars to keep them all going. bless him.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Why don't we have a Wiki page for GIDS yet, guys?  OMFG!?!?  It has existed in UD for over an hour '''IT MUST HAVE A WIKI PAGE'''   The world will crumble unless every little fucking detail associated with the game has its' own fucking wiki page. --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 12:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::It should be a sub page of Pubbies.--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 12:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, this is shocking news!! Cheating in UD? unheard of...until, of course, the wonderous goons appeared, right? heh. *sarcastic eye roll* Well, no one can claim you don't have overactive imaginations. --[[User:RebelReefer|RebelReefer]] 16:45, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::"sarcastic eye roll?" Do you really need to let us know what your imagining your character is doing or is that just a role playing habit? And we aren't assuming cheating has never happened, just that our opponents have noticeably increased their number of alts in a pathetic attempt to stop us. --[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]]
::::::::Hmm. Cheating happens, I'm afraid. It's happened before, and it'll happen again. Never doubt the lengths some people will go to to get one over on the rules of a free internet game.  Best thing you can do is make someone aware of it officialy so that the accounts responsible get banned.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 17:25, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::For a group of people who say everyone else are pubbies who worry too much about the game etc. you guys really are whiny. It's not even like this is the biggest amount of zerg accounts created in the game's history or the most effective at it, they're just standing there shut up and kill them. For a group of level 5s I'd think you'd appreciate the free experience you get off them before they idle and/or are deleted.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: We did just find Gid1000 so maybe there should be a wiki page about this new group? They are almost larger than The Dead.--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 14:57, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Please remain unbiased in moderation of the Wiki. Thank you~ --[[User:Cymoro|Cymoro]] 09:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::So about 4 or 5 guys from The Dead find a cheater and you call us 'whiney'?  I dare say sir I shall take this upon arbitration but not until my level 14 lawyer of public information concerning undead law will be in council.  I take this defamation of character unjust and unsound under the current laws of the Nationl Public Radio staring Ira Glass reform.  I demand an apology!--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 05:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I think the idea here is that when we showed up on the scene everyone said we were a bunch of faggot zergers, then once we shut those idiots up with the truth they begin to zerg themselves.  Now you see the corruption inherrent in the system!  Help help I'm being repressed!--[[User:Dongles3|Dongles3]] 17:39, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:I say let the pubbies Zerg! That's more experience points for us when we eat them alive. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 05:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yum yum. --[[User:BarackAttack|BarackAttack]] 02:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Poetic justice bastards. You asshats zerg and can't be seen doing it, cheat and make hundreds of users turn the map red, and then oppose even slightly pr-survivor suggestions on the wiki? You got what you desrved with this. Enjoy wasting your AP, asshats
:I ain't wastin' AP so long as I be earnin' XP.--[[User:BarackAttack|BarackAttack]] 09:47, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:If you're gonna bitch and moan at least sign your damn comments. --[[User:JSaysNo|JSaysNo]] 19:35, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::I was actually saying i missed the original SA Goons from waaay back when the original UD Forums were around, good old Timothy. Then I get told about The Dead and how you're aiming to take down UD for good, and well that's fairly easy done, I've been waiting for a while to see this happen - heck I've done everything else - Yep, me, Von Luthius a second generation Original Council of Leaders Councillor, the chap who made the Blackmore Bastards Brigade Barricade Run, and under my alt name of Ram Rock Ed First created The Gingerbread Men (with l2k Olhado) and then unleashed The Candyland Operation against the RRF in February 2006 et al et al. Yep, I have been playing very sporadically recently as have many of the original players I have seen about the place through the years and lets just clarrify something here, you want to all bitch and whine about zergers? If they are dead they are zerged dead and our numbers (yeah I'm currentlyd ead and following random feeding groans to the next feast which so happened to be the rest of the Gingers and the Nigfht ravers 2 days back LOL!!!) are increased further. Oh and just because you obviously don't know because it didn't occur to you to try and figure out stuff like The Groove Theory when it was around and able to be done consistantly still and also to figure out the limits to what is considered zerging by the system - it's 4 blocks away. Yep, if you are spamming characters then so long as they are 5 blocks apart, the game system does not count you as zerging. So shut the heck up, and get on with playing because all half of you are doing is complaining about the cheatyness of a handful of people and not actually admiring the fact that the SA Goons have actually done what so many people have wanted to do for an age but have never been able to do before now because no one would follow them. All you survivors suck it up and get a counter plan going. Oh what's that? You're gonna whine that The Dead are cheating? How can they bloody well cheat if they are all dead corpses? Get a life already! Haha puns are fun! -- [[User:Ram Rock Ed First|Ram Rock Ed First]]
:Go away, Mr. Has-been Nobody... And I think I'm pretty safe in assuming that the Goons won't welcome your retarded and illiterate attempt at an endorsement. Loser. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 14:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::Wanyao - you are flaming dipshit fuckhead. Except for the HOLY FUCK WALL OF TEXT aspect to his comment this man makes some good points that pissant nancy fuckleheads like yourself would do well to recognize! This man knows his UD history (was part of it, too) Assgoblins like you new players aren't worth the effort it would take to rip off your head and shit down your neck, but that doesn't make the fantasy go away. I can't wait until survivors are a shit stain on the crotch of UD. --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 18:20, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Cute... very funny... Yes.... Esp. the part where a Goon calls me a flaming dipshit... Ahahahaa!! Can dish it out, but you can't take it? Cry me a river of frothing-at-the-mouth SA bullshit, meh... Anyway, thing is, no one really cares about this illiterate's braggadocio... Kinda like no one really cares about DARIS anymore... Get over yourselves... --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 18:51, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::: Get over ourselves?  You are the obsessive-compulsive Aspbergerian pedophiles that seem to be making WIKI TEMPLES to us on here. --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 21:11, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== March of The Dead ==
Romero, we just made you another million dawg!

With our record setting three pronged assult against Thompson, Marven, and Pole malls an overwhelming success we claim this month as our own!

DEYYYYY KEEEEP SPININNNNN!
Ah fought ah tald yall dat we don stop, ah dun tald yall we don stop! 
Uh huh! uh huh!
:[[Image:Spinnazdp6.gif‎]]
:--[[User:Dongles3|Dongles3]] 17:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::Kevan Davis is loving this shit I bet.  Maybe we'll get enough IP hits for him to buy another car made out of counterfeit chocolate!
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[[Image:Death by zombies.jpg]]

== Bashing In ==
[[BB2]] here, anyway we can contact you guys maybe set something up? You guys can contact us through the forums as some members from The Dead already have be we can't get to you. East coast team will likely see us in the coming days. 
--[[User:LuE Colo|LuE Colo]] 05:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:<s>We/[[User:DCC|DCC]] will contact you when we have something sorted out. Theres an argument going on over whether or not we should coordinate with the BB2. --{{User:Gregarious Instigator/sig}} 07:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)</s> Message DCC on barhah.com. --{{User:Gregarious Instigator/sig}} 07:18, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::'''To all the zombies who were a part of the attacks on Marven, Tompson, and Pole Mall in the past 24 hours, we thank you for allowing us to be a part of ''THREE'' mall killings in 24 hours.  The Dead will outnumber the living.'''  --[[User:Zambargh the Ravener|Zambargh the Ravener]] 18:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::: I must say, that was some impressive work back there! High five, guys! If only you could turn the US economy around like you're doing with this game. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 15:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Remember that despite all the shit that I or anyone of the THE DEAD type, we know that being dead and having fun takes a massive group effort.  We turn the obvious disadvantages of this game to our advantage and I thank you guys for it.  Hopefully it'll get more players to stop being cows and then this game can get even more nuts.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 21:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Hear hear.  This game is ''finally'' starting to look like a zombie apocalypse instead of a zombie annoyance.--[[User:Jiangyingzi|Jiangyingzi]] 20:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

== A friendly comment ==

I appreciate seeing things [http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2779558&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=47#post340328548 like this]. I found this publicly-viewable thread because I wanted to investigate the claims I read above about [[zerging]], not in any attempt to undermine your plans. I'm glad that you guys are clarifying the rules to all your members in order to ensure we all have a fair fight. 

I'm not for sure if I'll be around by the time your group [[The Dribbling Beavers|meets mine]], but I wanted to express my appreciation for your efforts. (Let me explicitly state that I do not imply any insult or sarcasm.) --[[User:SexyRexyGrossman|Sexy Rexy Grossman]] 23:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:Its the only rule we operate under. Zerging is a pretty lousy tactic to deploy on people, but zerg characters sure are delicious to us. --{{User:Gregarious Instigator/sig}} 03:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

It's always more fun to win by the rules, especially in a game where "winning" has largely been declared to be impossible.  I think this is the only thing people are interested in testing the possibility of.  Hacking the game or "breaking" the code would probably be easy, but ruins the fun for everybody.  Can one side actually completely wipe out the other through skill and numbers alone?  That's what makes this exciting.  Pretty much everyone else seems to agree, which is the appeal that's brought in so many people at once.

By which I mean, ooh, blargh, scary!  Claw!  Bite!  Boo! --[[User:Jaster|Jaster]] 06:44 4 March 2008
:In that sense only zombies can 'win' the game. Because if somehow survivors managed to revive all the zombies they can always just hit up tall building windows...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 11:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::If somehow the zombies do succeed in wiping out every human in the city, and no other human players join, the external military will probably nuke the city killing everyone.  So no one wins. :p -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 17:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:::That will most likely happen if zombies kill everyone.  Then the game would start anew and everyone can go doing what they do before this excitement.  Since there's not much to lose really , everyone should go the zombie way!  You've got nothing to lose! Heck, it's better than sitting as a cow waiting for days just for a revive.  You'd be just missing out precious moments of being part of the overgrowing horde.  Just remember that your precious quiet days of typing 'reloading shotgun' or 'give me mouth to mouth' won't ever go away.  This zombie holocaust will though.  It doesn't happen often and you'll lose out on this fun opportunity.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 19:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Just a word to say; You lot rock the tits. I'll fight you every step of the way with every text based axe to the head I can, but my dying breath will be used laughing at all the anal retentive gimps geting their shite ruined. Maybe you'll kick some life into the game yet. --[[User:Puustrian|Puustrian]] 18:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:I would just like to mention, if all the survivours are killed, urbandead will self restart. Allow me to elaborate: zombies kill all survivours, zombies have nothing to do and quit playing, malton becomes empty like it was when urbandead first started. new survivours start coming in without being eaten immediately, malton re-ignites anew. [[User:The man|The man]] 17:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::That's the idea.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 18:04, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::And thats why I support it. Cheers. [[User:The man|The man]] 19:01, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I predict that once the survivor population drops below 10%, Kevan will freeze the game and gives survivors a HUGE buff(s). -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 20:48, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Either one of 2 things is gonna happen. Kevan is going to sit and watch with glee ad Urbandead becomes a perfect reenactment of a zombie movie or, like you said, he is gonna give survivors a mega buff. In any case, I will be very happy. I am so sick of the stupid "organization" in urbandead. There is actually a fucking law in the game! WTF? "you must not PK, if you PK you must be PKed twice" fuck that shit! Now if Kevan does nothing, all suburbs will go up in red, then all suburbs will go gray, and then the number of UD players will drop to around 1/6 th of its original value. And viola! UD self-reset accomplished. No more stupid PKers, no more stupid DEM, just plain ol' fashion UD. If Kevan decides to give survivors a mega buff, alright, I will finally be able to accomplish my long time goal of reenacting this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ9uDv-897s [[User:The man|The man]] 20:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

== Gay shit no one cares about anymore. ==
Destroy everything eh? Ok, have fun. [[User:JSaysNo|JSaysNo]] 19:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, it was so much fun in Dunell Hills we thought, eh? why not. --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 14:56, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::Ok!--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 19:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Here's a link to a somewhat-decent picture if you'd like a visual explanation of your goals. http://keetsa.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/nuclear_explosion.jpg  --[[User:JSaysNo|JSaysNo]] 19:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::We will have fun. Thank you for the well-wishes!--[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 22:43, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Holy fucking shit. 1500 members. --{{User:Secruss/Sig}}20:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
*Holy fu**ing sh@t 973 members and the [[The_dead_of_Dunell_Hills|DoDH]] has 696 members. Still smells of zerg-pie ! [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]]
::We come from one of the largest forums on the internet dippy.  If we were zerging our numbers would've decreased by now.  Put it back in your pants.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 23:56, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
*Are you making the accusation that zergs get me hot ? Oh well, this is the largest forum I could find online. Is it you ? ''The PokéCommunity its Forums Statistics attests to some 47,996 members'' I'm excited for the new Pokémon movie '''The Rise of Darkrai''' ! I can't wait to hear about it. [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]]

You're an idiot and we're going to destroy all you role playing librarian faggots "5,705 registered users logged in. 113,320 users total."
taken from http://forums.somethingawful.com/index.php?s=
::Meh.  You morons PAY for a forum.  Have fun.
:::Want to know the funniest part about that?  You people pay too just to see what we are doing.  --[[User:John Fraker|John Fraker]] 20:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)  
:::Lol paying for a forum acts as a buffer so we can insulate ourselves from jerkoffs like you who would shit things up. 
::::It also means you only get the people with so little life that they are willing to pay to use a forum, instead of just using one of the many free ones.  You're all *channers to, don't deny it.  
  
SA is like the mall full of survivors in the zombie apocalype called the internet SO THERE

*Umm... this was posted by a different user on my talk-page... sock puppet ? Oh well, if you take so adversely to Zerg allegations then you shouldn't have the same person speaking for both groups. Huh, scooby ? [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]]
::This is just speculation, but I don't think there's actually "both groups". SA decided to call itself "The Dead" because "The dead of Dunell Hills" was such an awful name. And yeah, they should be legit. SA didn't cheat the last time around, they were just better than everyone else and intentionally raised a shitstorm.--[[User:Insomniac By Choice|Insomniac By Choice]] 02:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I was kinda wondering why Scooby speaks on behalf of the Dead of Dunnel Hills and on behalf of the Dead. And I was wondering why the DoDH lost hundreds of members the day that the Dead became the largest group in Malton. I'll hang up and take my answer off the air. [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]]
:::Yeah, there's only one group - and there's probably at least 1000 players from SA in it; I wouldn't worry too much since last time it just made the game more interesting with crazy zombie (and PKer) rping. [[User: radiomucus|radiomucus]]
:::What's it like being so clueless?  And what the hell made you think we were going to be your buddies and hang out with you?  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 04:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh, you guys were around before ? Interesting... When you were around last time did you threaten to break the game ? It's okay, I'm just gonna steal the spinner from your Twister<sup>tm</sup> game. And please please swing the zombie ratio to 75%, I want Kevan to introduce katanas. [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]]
:::::We didn't say we were going to break the game when we were The Many, but we sure as hell CHANGED the game. --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 00:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::::You're a bit of an idiot, I hate to say. When one group DECREASES and another one INCREASES then it should be obvious even to roleplayers like you that it's a matter of switching names. The people FROM the groups are the same, to they defend both sides. As to us being around before... ever heard of [[The Many]]? [[User:Hellosa|Hellosa]] 18:33, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Roleplayers like me ? Oh, I didn't notice that you were actually a zombie in real life. - [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]]
:LOLOLOLOLOL - what a [[The Burne Motel|burn!]] Go Fred!--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:49, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:See, we goons know the difference between playing a game and living a separate existence. You got yourself killed, what, giving a speech to a bunch of players who told you themselves they were out to kill you? You tend a library that doesn't even exist? Brilliant work, Fred. Brilliant.[[User:Hellosa|Hellosa]] 16:11, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:
So does this group plan on destroying everything important or everything including the suburbs with nothing really in them. Also why does everytime a massive horde quits a new one starts up within a week to take up were they left off. First Shacknews, then Lue, now these guys, when can us survivors enjoy a day of just ferals and no mega hordes.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] <sup>[[C.I.A.]]</sup> 18:41, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

"waah waah waah there are too many zombies in my ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE game!!!" Are you fucking kidding me 'bill striker'?{{Unsigned|Dongles}}

:I wasn't complaining about it, I was just pointing out that it seems that everytime a big horde leaves, a new one is there within 1 week, not that I care since the suburb I'm in is safe and never attacked but I was just pointing that out and trying to be funny with the last bit, no need for you to be a asshole about it and also sign you shit Dongles.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] <sup>[[C.I.A.]]</sup> 00:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

This... this is why ... even though i think you're just a bunch of overcompensating attention-whores ... I nonetheless heartily welcome all yous SA Goons to the game...  Bwahahah... --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 19:05, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

See... I like you guys. The people who see this and see it as a challenge rather than bitching about us not playing the game fair. You're at least having fun with all this.
We'll destroy you anyway, but at least it'll be a fun friendly kill. [[User:Hellosa|Hellosa]] 21:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

:don't forget a fair few of us have zombie characters as well. If you stick around for a bit you might hopefuly realise that most of us aren't massively biased againgst our differently-vital friends! :)--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 21:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC) 

I'm still interested in watching if you guys will buzz the green zone in the South.--{{User:Secruss/Sig}}21:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Green zone buzzed. Taking down 3 malls at once. Did LUE ever do that? --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 15:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Nope, our record was 2 malls simultaneously, which was pretty spiffy when we did it. You guys hitting three down at once is quite awesome. Then again, you have triple the numbers we ever had, so let me do some math...wait, how did the math add up to 23 malls being conquered? Damn it, I never could do math well...in any event, I look forward to fighting with and/or against you guys, depending on which alt is around.--[[User:Panthera|Panthera]] 03:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

=== Pressing issues ===
[[User:William Joel|William Joel]] is from 4chan and is somehow not ashamed of the direction his life has taken. -- {{User:Gregarious Instigator/sig}}, moved from [[The Dead]]
:lol, I'm sure he thinks the same but of SA.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:45, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::Oh my Jesus fuck shut the fuck up and go admin something you fucking faggot you have to have something better to do than shit up our talk page goddamn --[[User:Zambargh the Ravener|Zambargh the Ravener]] 01:10, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::The joke is on him, I am ashamed. Besides, unlike 4chan, SA doesn't spend the majority of its time celebrating pedophilia. --{{User:Gregarious Instigator/sig}} 23:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::william joel is a pretty cool guy, eh kills drama and doesn't afraid of anything. --[[User:Dawgas|Dawgas]] 17:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


I have made an entry. Right here. Also, I made my own page for my account. Also, braaainz are good. [[User:Eugenie.de.franval|Eugenie.de.franval]], you killed my survivor character twice for no reason in South Blythville (I really did want him to help the survivors even if it was useless to do so). We are now coming for you, though, you and every other breather still standing. [[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 03:55 3 March 2008
::You are of course aware that hes a PKer? If you don't like it become a bounty hunter and kill him whenever you find him. Thats what I do and thats what dozens more do. --[[User:RichterFury|RichterFury]] 02:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

===Ummm....===
Fuck yeah, Seaking?--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 00:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
:::FUCK YEAH SEAKING -patients

all this bitching and moaning from you WIKIWARRIORS only makes us want to break your game that much harder EL OH EL
:Me? Wiki warrior? Ha. I'm nothing more than the lazy bored guy. Wish you luck with all the shit you guys are taking here. Oh, and how's SA doing? I haven't been there in years.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 01:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

::Wiki Warrior ? Awesome ! I'm a warrior. Grrr... I accept your challenge. Send your puppy pile to occupy every necrotech and every mall in malton. It sounds fun. [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred]]
:::Since you have glorified me as the glorious leader of glorious Somethingawful I have 3 statements.

1.Stay in 'skool'.  I normally would typed school but I'm trying to appease your sexual side.  Here's looking at you honey!  Just pretend I'm wearing a skirt while you hit that refresh button!

2.Title me as 'Sir' Scooby.  Anything less and Kevan won't implement lightsabers, bacon stripes or whatever crap you're babbling about.  I also have tits so that way you can do a little 'double think' as you say it with glee.

3.Think of me as your brother.  Because I'm here for you.  Remember realize that you're not just wasting your time for nothing.  You're wasting it for our enjoyment!--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 06:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
:The kind General Akbar warned me about you.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:51, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
::Why all the not-so-subtle sexual innuendo? Transference? 
::Also, argumentum ad hominem makes you look pathetic and grasping. 
::Break the game? And you intend to break a game ''in which you have no control'' over the ratios, RNG or the updates? Let me know how that goes for you! --[[User:Goolina|Goolina]] <sub>[[Gore Corps]] (retired)</sub> 19:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Whine whine.  We don't have to let you know as you probably already have your head sniffing up our collective asses in our forums.  I also don't pretend to attempt using whatever Psych 101 you took in your glorious community college in a game that roleplays loading a gun.  Maybe use some of that 'brainpower' to figure out why you're wasting your time in here and not out 'sipping beer' or 'loading shotgun'.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 04:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I figured you wouldn't understand the bigger words (or as we at the community college like to call them, the ''polysyllabic'' words). Dullard.
::::You sip beer?! Hahahahahahaha. Fag. There, I'm sure that's a word you have more than a nodding acquaintance with. 
::::p.s. I love [http://chadzboyz.com/ your forums]! That explains a lot. --[[User:Goolina|Goolina]] <sub>[[Gore Corps]] (retired)</sub> 06:21, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::You have the most terribly formatted replies I have ever seen.  Also as someone who has a vast chance of being smarter than you, you have possibly the most hilariously inflated delusion of intelligence.  Bust out your English 101 rhetoric terms and finish up with a "dullard" for the knockout?  Pitiful.  Lurk moar and come back when you know how to troll. --[[User:Zambargh the Ravener|Zambargh the Ravener]] 20:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Aww, how cute.  It's like you're trying to troll but you don't actually know what you're doing.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 06:45, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Goolina I must admit I am irresistibly curious what kind of downs syndrome detectivery you performed to link scoobydoodoobie to that site. -- {{User:Gregarious Instigator/sig}} 07:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::No hablo espanfag.
::::::Wait...we might actually have zombies in a zombie apocalypse?  ZOMG.  Although I wish that you would use a little less grade-school rhetoric in your insults, I am glad that you guys have decided to try to "break the game".  I might actually die to a zombie for the first time in months.  {{User:BillyClubThorton/signature}} 07:45, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Hang out outside of a suburb that's been green for months and maybe you'll see some action.  Or even just stay where you are, because we WILL get to you.  Either way you're a pussy and/or a liar (about not being killed in months).  Probably both. --[[User:Zambargh the Ravener|Zambargh the Ravener]] 20:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Ummm, OK.  I die all the time, but it's because of SURVIVORS, not zombies, L2Read.  <--------I'm a PKer, durr. I've been doing for months what you kids are just starting out at: trying to ruin the survivors' day.   Search [[PKer]] on this wiki to be a part of the most nerfed class in the game!  {{User:BillyClubThorton/signature}} 20:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Sorry, but I am going to have to disagree with you.  I think we have done this [[The_Many|once]] or [[Democratic_Armed_Republic_of_Independent_Suburbs|twice]] before.  --[[User:John Fraker|John Fraker]] 21:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Wow, I just realized that you guys were [[Democratic_Armed_Republic_of_Independent_Suburbs|D.A.R.I.S.]], after reading that wiki article.  {{User:BillyClubThorton/signature}} 21:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

lol @ 'general' akbar [[User:William Joel|William Joel]] 18:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:For people who have been playing for [[User:John Fraker|less than a week]], you sure make a lot of claims to being historical groups. -- [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Etruria]]
::I wouldn't expect someone with such a clear cut case of downs syndrome to understand that people can go without creating a personal wiki page upon registration.--{{User:Gregarious Instigator/sig}} 22:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::Oh hell, you caught me.  Just be sure not to tell anyone, okay?  They might check [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=123764 my profile] for themselves and see just how new I am.  --[[User:John Fraker|John Fraker]] 22:56, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::You don't have the brainrot.[[image:Dead_like_zed.gif‎ ]] I look forward to combat reviving you. [[image:Dead_like_zed.gif‎ ]]- [[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Fred of Your Mom]]
::::Please combat revive me.[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=97517 my profile] I like PKing much more.--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 15:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::::You're a pedantic little twit aren't you? -- {{User:Gregarious Instigator/sig}} 23:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::[[image:Dead_like_zed.gif‎ ]][[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]][[image:Dead_like_zed.gif‎ ]][[image:Dead_like_zed.gif‎ ]][[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]][[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]][[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]][[image:Dead_like_zed.gif‎ ]][[User:Sir Fred of Etruria|Sir Pedantic of Twit]]
::::::You sure showed me. --{{User:Gregarious Instigator/sig}} 02:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

===AN HERO steps forward===
for somone who claims we are a dumbass's you are throwing big words out there and yeh they are the right ones but dude STFU (its an internet anagram if your too smart to know what it is) we dont care. and for the claims of us all being role payers with no life what are you doing here heard the phrase "pot calling the kettel"? If you were the mature clever people you say you are you would: stop replying and stop looking here, because we are pedantic little wikiwarrior twits with no life we will obviously come look back here and argue some more so use some of your vast supirior intelegence and do somthing smart and do what I said.

oh and ps using big words dose not make you smart it shows you know things most people dont give a flying fuck about but are socialialy retarded or are a friend of many socialy retarded people--[[User:Blood red Bread|Blood red Bread]] 23:57, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:*I just can't believe you said "throwing big words out there." Are you a complete breather? --{{User:Gregarious Instigator/sig}} 23:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:This was a well thought out, intelligent, and grammatically correct paragraph and I hope that in the future you will continue to share your brilliant insight with us.  Truly, you are a marvel to behold.  --[[User:John Fraker|John Fraker]] 00:02, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:we just got owned guys, time to pack it in :( --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 06:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:<i>"STFU (its an internet <s>anagram</s>)"</i> Acronym.  It's an internet acronym.  No, I don't know why I'm bothering either.  --[[User:Jaster|Jaster]] 14:27, 5 March, 2008

Antidisestablishmentarianism. --[[User:SprCobra|SprCobra]] 16:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

What really makes me laugh about sir fred is that most people roleplay a big bad invincible paladin or space marine or something.
But sir fred roleplays a nerdy librarian, and that is comedy gold.

eh screw it i got problems with spelling and grammar ok? I do try but the message is the same but hell i dont think im better cos im smart and by big words i ment words that have a different meanig like pedantic which means argumentative but why not sat it? cos you do refer to us as dum asses so why say words some may not know? i think its because you know if you use words like that 1 you look smart 2 imediatly some one looks at the nearest dictionary or asks "what dose that mean?" to be laughed at even though the could be young 3 by acting smart you create a barrier between yourself and others therefore its easyer to disregard them and call them names/take the piss. but hey those are my thoughts so go on im the guy who cant spell or form a sentance/paragraph so take the piss again but its ok because im not dumb I just can't spell or make a paragraph

oh and i like the whole section to take the piss its quite fun (signed by [[User:Blood_red_Bread|Blood red Bread]] 21:35, 3 March 2008)

=== Seriously though ===
All shit-talking aside, I am genuinely interested in hearing how you guys intend to "break the game" (as you put it). It's not like you have any control of the parameters of the game, such as the RNG or the skill builds for the characters. I'm sure you've noticed that once the balance tilts in favor of one side, Kevan introduces something to make it more difficult for that side. I think that, if anything, a megahorde will result in a boon to the surviors. It may be fun to piss off the survivors (of which I play one character - the rest are PKers or zambahz), but I don't see how anything you guys do can permanently effect the game when Kevan's the one who holds all the power over the actual game play. Granted, you can kill people, but it's not like revives are impossible to find. Your thoughts? --[[User:Goolina|Goolina]] <sub>[[Gore Corps]] (retired)</sub> 18:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'm figuring rushing necorotech buildings. There was a group that reckoned that if enougth zombies got enougth necrotech buildings then there would be a diminishing stockpile of syrynges. It might work, I guess, but I'd imagine it would take more zombies than even SA could muster. Should pose a bit of a challenge though.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 18:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::Do the math. At 1500+ zombies we could park a small gang in each NT. And we just might. --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 15:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::We're breaking the game of role playing librarian nerds who go to costume parties.  We're breaking the game of pretending to be a hero in a world where dying is meaningless.  We're breaking the game of people pretending to be animals in the zoo.  We're breaking the game of stupid.  This new game is a game of survival.  Survival against zombies in a dying world and I'm sure Kevan can't disagree with that.  The fact that you're actually 'thinking' about survival means the game has now been changed.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 18:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::: It's great that you want to add some more action to the game (although we were already making progress with the new Barricade blocking update), but speaking as a veteran zombie/player, I can already tell that "The Dead" are probably going to go the same way as LUE. After they trash enough of the city, most of their members are going to get bored and quit, or change groups/sides. At which point, things will pretty much go back to the way they were. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 01:38, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I was thinking about survival before mate. (well, for my survivor character, anyway) Mind you, the challenge will be welcome. You've joined up, or stepped up your activities at a good time, too. Zombies have just gotten the upper hand percentage wise for the first time for a while, and the BB2 has been very successfull. Oh, and zombies have gotten a couple of useful updates too. I'll watch your progress with interest, probably from the next suburb!--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 18:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Then why not play the "Diary of the Dead" version, where death actually matters because there aren't any NTs? Survival is a moot point in Urban Dead, because death is not a permanent state. --[[User:Goolina|Goolina]] <sub>[[Gore Corps]] (retired)</sub> 19:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'd imagine there is a large difference between making death/survival more important in parts of the "main map" and death already being permanent on the new temporary gimmick "map". --[[User:SprCobra|SprCobra]] 20:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Because there is always a threat of "biting the big one" in Monroeville. Plus, it may be a limited deal and not a full game. What SA has done is essentially make the game more "Zombie-centric" which takes away from the PKers (no disrespect to PKers in UD, many of whom are very entertaining individuals). My main character originally died 10 times, 5 of which by silent PKers. I was playing through the game rueful of getting PK'd that the past 5 zombie maulings were rather quite satisfying. <BR>As politically incorrect as this may sound, sometimes life is easier when you break it down to fantasy Cowboys vs Injuns. (Before we had to see what "Custer's Last Stand" the Game and soldiers on both sides started wearing the same outfits.) And if anyone even remotely knows ''why'' pro-wrestling is fake, let me just mention that having great heels (villains) makes for great fights. [[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 04:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:"I'm sure you've noticed that once the balance tilts in favor of one side, Kevan introduces something to make it more difficult for that side." <-- biggest lie I ever heard --[[User:Katthew|Katthew]] 19:48, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::You think so? What about the update that allows zambahz to block barricading? Surely you don't think that update benefited the survivors. If anything, it made it more difficult to defend against a megahorde during a siege. If that's not a major tilt for the zambahz, I don't know what is. --[[User:Goolina|Goolina]] <sub>[[Gore Corps]] (retired)</sub> 21:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:::God, I love it when you get worked up like this. Care for a game of catch, my sweet? --[[User:SexyRexyGrossman|Sexy Rexy Grossman]] 23:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
::Hmm. I don't think it quite works like that exactly, but it does seem to be the case that search results can be tweaked to benifit one side over another, and the newest zombie bonuses where bought in at pretty much the same time zombies where realy getting shafted by survivors. I guess the game isn't much fun for anyone if either side is masively powerful.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 21:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I Agree with Katthew. Survivors have frequently been buffed when Zombies were doing poorly. What do you think the Scent Death buff was, that's pretty big it's just ignored because they have a history of doing that(remember Forts?).--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:::: who uses scent death --[[User:Cymoro|Cymoro]] 12:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::: I do.  I actually find it quite useful sometimes. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 00:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

===Some questions from an ignorant observer===

First off... wtf is a pubbie? --[[User:Cman yall|Cman yall]] 20:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

:Figure it out for yourself. [[User:Hellosa|Hellosa]] 21:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

::Best guess I have is that it refers to non-SA members, and is derived from the word "public". If it was meant as anything other than a term of scorn, I expect you'd just tell me what it means, so I'll add to that a conclusion that it's derogatory. I could probably buy an SA registration and find out, but I've never trusted myself with a credit card, and thus don't buy anything over the internet... --[[User:Cman yall|Cman yall]] 22:35, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

:::Try typing it in google you idiot.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 23:48, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

:::: LOL! I was thinking the exact same thing. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 23:54, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

::::: I am an idiot... yeah, looking it up on google would have been the smart thing to do... oh well... never mind... um... would you accept just finishing a midnight to eight shift as an excuse? :) --Cman yall 00:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)



Secondly, are The Dead holding the territory they have already ruined, or just moving in? May I suggest that each of you who cares enough leave a string of alts behind (one in each suburb, maximum) to make sure the survivors aren't moving in behind you, as per [[TUMBLEWEED-aikido-river%27n-stuff_Tactics|river tactics]]. --[[User:Cman yall|Cman yall]] 20:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

:We're not about to tell you our tactics. [[User:Hellosa|Hellosa]] 21:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

::Being a zombie myself I think I can already tell that your group works by hitting hard and then quickly moving on.  You're probably not going to bother trying to hold onto territory. You're probably going to leave that job to the veteran Zombie groups and local ferals.  Because actually defending territory as a zombie is a lot different than taking over territory. So far, the only suburb that has almost always stayed been the Red Zone is Ridleybank, and that's thanks to the constant dedication of the RRF. Keeping multiple suburbs in the Red zone for an indefinite amount of time just isn't possible in this game.  So, I doubt if your group is actually going to try and use its low-level members to defend territory. Like I said, you're probably going to leave those places to higher level zombie groups and ferals.  Also, the fact that the average level in your group is a mere 5 is probably motivation to move on and find new targets instead.  After all, you wouldn't get much experience if you just sat in one location. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 23:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

::: So let me get this straight, they are not holding territory after trashing suburbs, right? If thats the case then thats good for us survivors and I look foward to fighting The Dead then (even though I'll probably lose) because it would be fun to fight a massive group then regroup after they leave, keeps the suburb I'm in alittle active since it usually isn't but if they turn any of the suburbs into more Ridleybanks then we would have a problem because Ridleybank is no fun because survivors can't even live there long and if alot of suburbs turn out like that after they are done then it will be annoying plus I really like the Suburb I'm in right now and would really hate for it to become a Ridleybank since I hate going there.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] <sup>[[C.I.A.]]</sup> 03:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

:::: I'm just speculating. I could be totally wrong, but from a logical standpoint, it seems that The Dead's strength is based on sheer numbers and fast movement.  They don't seem like the type that stay in one area for long.  -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 05:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

::::: Well then thats good, I look forward to trying to fight them then because I always just help repair my groups HQ after the dead leave.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] <sup>[[C.I.A.]]</sup> 12:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Thirdly, do you really think that enough of you are interested enough to stay here long enough to finish everyone off? I would love to see it happen, but the thrill of "breaking" the game is going to wear off, I think. Not meant as a discouragement from trying, just what do you guys think? --[[User:Cman yall|Cman yall]] 20:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

:Finishing everybody off won't take that long. Not if the current players don't change their ways. They're not used to adaptation. [[User:Hellosa|Hellosa]] 21:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, I don't think so. This whole thing happened before with LUE.  They trashed a good chunk of the city, and afterwards, they pretty much disbanded.  But whatever. We'll see what happens in the next month or so. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 23:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

First of all, CY you're advocating alt abuse, you cheating scumfuck. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 23:56, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

:Alt abuse? Fuck you too, I'm advocating nothing of the sort. As far as I can tell, reporting on the condition of a suburb with any one of your characters is perfectly legal (e.g. see the [[suburb|suburb page]]), and what are you supposed to do, forget what you saw with your other character? As long as two of your characters never come too close, what rule is being broken? --[[User:Cman yall|Cman yall]] 00:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
{{Quote|Zerging rules and stuffs|lead completely separate existences within the game}}

That'd be alt abuse doing what you say to. Which is:
{{Quote|Cman yall|May I suggest that each of you who cares enough leave a string of alts behind to make sure the survivors aren't moving in behind you, as per river tactics.}}

Durka durka?--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 00:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

:So your interpretation of that is, if you have multiple zombie characters, they can't share information? But if they each belong to a group, surely they can share information with the other members of the group? And if those two groups happen to share information... in other words, there's no way to prevent it, and it would be silly to try. 
:If you're going to interpret [http://www.urbandead.com/faq.html#mult the rule] that strictly, are two characters even allowed to pursue the same goal (i.e. killing everyone)? --[[User:Cman yall|Cman yall]] 01:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

::First of all, the way you type is fairly hard to understand. Where did the second group that you refer to come from? You make no mention of one ''at all'' until that point, and act as if you've been leading up to it. If what you meant was that both zombies alts belonged to two different groups (as you didn't quite say that, but I'm assuming thats what you meant, given the context) then yes. It's alt abuse. If you have two characters, you shouldn't use information gained from one to benefit another. You're supposed to make your decisions based off information gained from the character thats making the decision, and ''that character only''. Thats been considered mult abuse for as long as I've been playing (At least by the people I knew). Which is almost 3 years now. And having two alts in the same group is straight zerging, as they're both pursuing the same goal. Now, the last bit of your post is a bit stupid. Anyone with common sense would realize that is just a highly exaggerated way of interpreting the rules.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 01:21, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

:::I apologise for the lack of clarity. Yes, my question was, if you had two zombies, in two different groups, and those two groups talked to each other... what are you supposed to do, put your metaphorical fingers in your ears? Every other member of group A benefits from knowledge gained from group B, and vice versa - what kind of sense does it make... hell, what kind of ''difference'' does it make? --[[User:Cman yall|Cman yall]] 02:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Second of all, Mordac... LUE had nowhere near the numbers the Dead have. There is no comparison to LUE or to anything else from the past. This is a new game... deal with it. Frankly, I don't think SA will break the game. They'll just make it a lot tougher on survivors, and the losers who don't know how to deal with it will cry. Everyone else will adapt. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 23:56, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
: Technically it's not a "new game" unless the entire server gets rebooted and everyone starts over at level 1.  And yeah, I know LUE had only 400 members when they were at the top of the game. What made them so powerful was the sheer speed at which they moved (they could clear out buildings in five minutes flat). My point is that The Dead's success rate, in terms of the long run, depends on how A) how quickly survivors adapt and B) how many members of The Dead are going to drop out after a while. And I'm pretty sure some members are eventually going to drop out for whatever reasons. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 00:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::You fail to catch the subtleties of my argument. Which is sad, cuz it's not all that subtle... Let me use another example... in the last 20 years or so, the influx of european players to professional hockey changed the way the game was played. forever. their skating and puckhandling techniques, which were once considered anethema to the canadian style of play, slowly became a new model by means of which to play the game. but, the game is still to this day played by guys on skates chasing a hunk of hard rubber with bent sticks. capiche, now, mordac?? or do i need to put it yet another way? well, i can't be bothered. seeya. [[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 21:18, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::: Dude, there's no need to be rude and sarcastic!  Sheesh. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 23:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

===Yes, I'm a pubbie faggot that lives my life on the internet===
Sheesh, so many sections I could have posted in. Theres one for ignorant observers, gay shit, a HERO, even ummm...
I just couldnt decide where I would fit in best...so I made a new one and gave it a title that will surely save hellosa, or any other great and mighty goon from having to leave his/her real world life with people and dogs and shit, from having to type that at me in his first response. It probably wont work since he isnt on the internet enough to read it all but, whatever.

Anyway, Hellosa, Im serious when I ask, Do you encounter any trouble from certain people when they find out you're the spawn of a sow that was raped by a horde of angry, drunken SA goons out for a night on the town?

WAAAAAAAAIT!! that wasnt my serious question...what I wanted to ask was (and this is serious now) if you, in your INFINITE wisdom and nonfaggoty ways were a survivor (ooooh how great you would be, Im sure), how best would you prepare for such a raging horde of adolescent zombies? (please note: by adolescent, I meant low level zombies. I, by no means, was referencing the behavior of you or any of your memebers on this wiki at all) Anyway, Im curious. And don't cop out and say, "I'm not telling, you stupid faggot pubbie biatches. What do I look like? some sort of dumb ass roleplaying do gooders stuck in the virtual reality of a zombie browser game that sucks pig ass after a fresh dump? I'm only playing it to prove how dumb ass lame it and all of you are!" or one of your other BAH RILLIANT responses I could only dream of being witty enough to come up with. Be serious...and coherent...just this once.

I wait just inside my barricades for your answer. Thank you for your time, great one of the dramaless wiki real world. ---[[User:Rebelreefer|RebelReefer]] 22:07, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::Retake English class and we'll get back to you.  Your text makes my eyes hurt.  On the bright side at least you admit you have a problem.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 23:00, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Ouch *dabbs a single tear from his cheek* I knew I shoulda saved my frail interent self from such harsh text. But listen, if you need me to dumb my english down for you, just say the word. Im a do gooder faggoty type willing to be helpful and shit. Perhaps, in the future, you should just let Hellosa speak for you. He is far more patient and intelligent. I will carefully oil my shotgun while I wait for him to prove how much better than you he is by answering my simple question... ---[[User:Rebelreefer|RebelReefer]] 23:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Have you gone Orwellian?  Read above and clear your thoughts and stop smashing the keyboard with your apelike palms.  Also by using the revive trick below means you've effectively given up.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 23:35, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Rebelreefer, I do hope you are aware that dabbing single tears, and oiling shotguns are not possible in urban dead, and to emote them is a waste of AP that would be better spend RUNNING FROM THE DEAD. You, and those like you are the reason we have decided to make our presence felt. We aren't here to be patient and intelligent, not that we aren't capable, its just that those sort of actions get in the way of spoiling your fun. *drinks beer*--[[User:Dongles3|Dongles3]]
::::::Dongles3 *gasp* you can't be serious? if I cant dab and oil, what would my world become? *looks around, worry creasing his brow* You are nothing more than a meanie, a big fat meanie. I will lie awake in my PD, behind some crates of ammo worried about your massively destructive pack of rabid preschoolers...that shall mash the attack button, at a predetermined, planned strike time, at a predetermined, planned location...then shortly after...when the glorious retribution you have dealt flashes acrossed your screen in dull green letters,"You maul some pubbie faggot for 3hp. They have died" you'll all scream with extreme glee, "TAKE THAT STUPID PUBBIE WHO LIVES ON THE INTERNET!! NOW GO OUT AND VISIT THE REAL WORLD!" Im glad to be living in the internet world if the real world is so full of irony such as this. *quaking knees* 

::::::'''OH, and also...'''Should I continue to expect each new goon that shows up  to get dumber and dumber as we go? you know, I just want to be prepared. ---[[User:Rebelreefer|Rebelreefer]] 19:58, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::You're *gasps* *reaches for inhaler* *inhales from inhaler* *coughs* the dumbest one here by far *sips beer* *gasps again* *reaches for inhaler again*. --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 23:57, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

::::::::"I AM NOT EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO THE BROWSER GAME URBAN DEAD!"  Wake up and say that five times in the mirror before you post again.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 21:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: oh, '''Riseabove''', great rebuttle. Your use of emotes is impressive though a bit overdone. You keep at it with all this wiki drama and editing and The Dead roleplaying, you'll have no trouble getting it down. ''*high fives Riseabove and then goes back to looking longingly out the second story window of his safehouse for Hellofaloser to show up and shed some decency on this mess*'' and '''Scoobydooo''', DUDE, are you shitting me? where can I find a mirror in game? a mansion? a school bathroom maybe? if I'd have known about mirrors I could have emoted in game that I fixed my hair and shit. damn it, so many wasted opportunities. ''*goes to find a mirror*'' Seriously though, Do all of you guys sit around on the intern...wait...I mean, in the real world, yeah, Im sure its the real world...giggling about what dumb response would be best? Its really quite impressive. ---[[User:Rebelreefer|Rebelreefer]] 15:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: What is this faggotry? [[User:Gooooons|Gooooons]] 16:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I'm sorry Goooooooooons, your question will be ignored due to extreme predictability. ---[[User:Rebelreefer|Rebelreefer]] 17:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::*sips beer* *reloads shotgun* [[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 05:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Got anymore of those beers?  *sharpens katana* --- [[User:robotsinmyhead|robotsinmyhead]] <sup>[[User_talk:robotsinmyhead|BOO HOO]] | [[Image:dead_like_zed.gif|ZOMBIE]][[User:Katthew/Zombie_Improvements| RIGHTS]]</sup>

:I'm not one of them... and I'm not of them, either... I am just an observer... but what I'd do is arrange to be killed, get a friend to revive me, and then don't stand up for a month. They'll be gone, you stand up, no worries. Or at least, that's the first plan that springs to mind :) --[[User:Cman yall|Cman yall]] 22:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I approve of this plan. --[[user:Bedlami|Bedlami]]

I've done that plan a few time but this time I plan on having some fun and fighting them to the end because I did the planned death/revive thing when the Big Bash came to my home suburb last year and besides I got all the supplies I need to rebuild my groups HQ when ever I get revived, thats how I've been planning for the past 4 days.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] <sup>[[C.I.A.]]</sup> 20:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::I approve of this shitty plan too.  Less active high level defenders is always good in my book.  Maybe while you're off line you'll get some inspiration for writing more fan fiction as you basically got owned before even playing. Well played, well played.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 21:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::: Your not talking to me right because I plan on fighting you all to the end when/if you arrive in my home suburb, I was just talking about how I plan on repairing my groups building when ever you all are done attacking it because I got all the supplies I need when I get revived after you all leave but first I got to fight you all if you all come.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] <sup>[[C.I.A.]]</sup> 21:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Judging by the way that Grammar went, I'd love to see the epic fight between >1250 zombies and 1 survivor. --[[User:SprCobra|SprCobra]] 21:31, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::::: That wasn't the point, I was just pointing out that I'm not gonna do the planned death/revive thing but instead fight to the end this time because it will be fun then I got a plan afterward to repair my home suburb, thats all I know I can't kill 1250 zombie so you don't need to bring that up since it is implied pretty much and piss off about my grammer, I can care less about it because as long as the message you mean by the words is stated, it doesn't matter how the words look then.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] <sup>[[C.I.A.]]</sup> 21:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::You have a super duper plan to repair your suburb and intend to, like just about ever other survivour, fight us if we appear in your "home" suburb. That's nice. Bad Grammar also has a horrible way of inducing ambiguity, and destroying the clarity of your message. That'd be sad, because you can't tell everyone you're going to fight and go down in a blaze of horrible $_POST requests and CGIarific glory without good Grammar. >: --[[User:SprCobra|SprCobra]] 21:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::: Well this little discussion is over because I have told my goal and people understand it and I'm not gonna get into another retarted internet grammer battle because everyone on the internet thinks they are so good at it so have fun, I'll see you all when you make it to my home suburb, till then.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] <sup>[[C.I.A.]]</sup> 21:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::They're, not their.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 22:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Hey chill out guys, there are more annoying UD players than Bill Striker so relax and stop arguing just for the sake of retorting everything he says. Compared to most pubs he's actually alright. But still, Bill, spell right. Even if piss poor spelling gets the message across it greatly diminishes others perception of you. Treating you like a child is easy when you spell retarded as 'retarted.' --[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]]
:::::::::::Point taken, I'm not trying to be bad but instead just stating I'm looking forward for a battle and I'll try to work on my spelling too but again I wasn't trying to start anything, I'm not as bad as I was last year during the Fort Creedy recapture mission, ask anyone I was a complete asshole during that but I have changed since then alot.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] <sup>[[C.I.A.]]</sup> 00:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::'Bill Striker' I'm glad that you listed your groups headquarters in your wiki profile.  For being the head of 'intelligence' in malton that was a rather big blunder, brah.--[[User:Dongles3|Dongles3]]
::::::::::::: Does it really matter if we tell, the real CIA tells were their HQ is at so we did too but we have got plenty of little safehouses around and ready for certain events.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] <sup>[[C.I.A.]]</sup> 05:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Just as a heads up to you, BS (Do you mind if I call you BS?): safe houses aren't. --[[User:Mornacale|Mornacale]] 10:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::"Hello [possibly annoyed] people! My Headquarters and presumably most if not all of my 5 members are in THIS building (xx,yy) Please don't kill us or use this to your advantage as I have even more little safe houses around which will be super safe for us, I'll probably tell you the locations soon. I think this is a great idea, as no one else tells anyone their locations in public for any malevolent force to see but they're just meanies. :)"  --[[User:SprCobra|SprCobra]] 12:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

===How about everyone just takes a deep breath?===
  
As you say, it's just a game, and anyone who gets upset enough over a game to swear at strangers has some serious issues. If some people like to spend their AP on non-productive things, why do you care? Let them have their fun. It just benefits you in the end, anyway. And even if you do succeed in killing everyone, the server resets and in a few years no one will remember it. 
I'm not saying that survivors are justified in cheating to try to stop you, but if you step back and look at the world for a moment, does it really matter in the long run? Just report them and go back to eating people secure in the knowledge that very bad things are going their way.
In short: calm down. We all have the same real objective. (Having fun, in case it isn't as obvious as I thought it was.)--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 01:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::If this was true you wouldn't have taken the time to type this as it is just a game.  I personally enjoy the game of drama and you might personally enjoy a game of clicking.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 05:18, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I didn't type that in response to the game, I typed it because I'm genuinely puzzled by the "conversations" going on here.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 01:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone who plays this will remember this until the end of their days, even if we manage to succeed in getting the server reset. On an unrelated note, thank you for updating the map of several suburbs in the south, Scott. It's so hard to find unbiased danger-level recommenders these days. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 05:24, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::You're even worse than Finis! --{{User:Lh778/sig}} 07:45, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry if I wasn't clear, ExraNoise. I tend to overuse hyperbole sometimes. What I meant was that it would lose importance over time, people would find new things to distract them, new people would join, and it would fade from active remembrance, sort-of like Caiger.[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 01:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:Oh god, they're '''swearing at strangers'''!  Will the inhumanity ever end!  But seriously, I'd be all about letting people waste their AP in peace if they didn't whine and complain when they get repeatedly slaughtered. *chugs beer* *makes angry post about Kevan's changes/somethingisawefull griefers on wiki or offsite forum* --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 17:45, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I'm sorry if my standards for courtesy are higher than yours. Link please for whining and complaining?[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 01:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Get this holier than thou crap outta here.  You're not fooling anyone.  Last thing you should care about is being polite on a small wikiboard about a browser based zombie game.  Good thing you have your priorities straight though.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 01:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::I wouldn't say a ''small'' wiki... --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::I believe that it is important to treat all people with respect. Even if they aren't respectful in return, I can honestly say I did nothing to encourage a negative perception of me. I apologize if I seemed condescending.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 01:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)  
:::Well this topic for one. --[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]]
:::::::Just so I have this straight... '''Scoobydoo''', it sounds like you care quite a bit that someone might care about being polite on a small wikiboard about a browser based zombie game. Is this true? 
:::::::Secondly, again, just so its clear for me... '''Scoobydoo''', Its perfectly acceptable to ''care'' about the small wikiboard drama about a browser based zombie game but to ''care'' about the actual fun of playing the game is just ridiculous? Is this also true? --[[User:RebelReefer|RebelReefer]] 15:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::1-No
::2-That's not a question.    That's all the time we have for today but remember the most important lesson kids!  Winners don't do drugs! Remember to stay in school!  Lastly of course remember to play more Final Fight. Go get em Cody!--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 16:11, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Thing is old chap, it is, and a rather pertinent question at that - surely an erudite fellow as yourself could furnish an answer to it? --[[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]] 13:23, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

:::[[Image:Haggar.gif‎]]Mike Haggar is where it's at. - [[User:Rotting TRex|Rotting TRex]] 13:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

===Meh..===
I'm not too worried about all this really, these Megahordes have a positive effect in shaking things up a bit.
Having said that, a question for these SA wallahs, after reading some of this here... urm... would I be right in thinking some of you guys own comic book stores by any chance?--[[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]] 15:52, 15 March 2008 (GMT)
:i have some great deals on 40k minitures if ur interested. u can order them online: http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh (my online store rocks btw imo. check out those snow flakes i installed!)  --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 20:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Ah ha! To quote a line from a certain film: "I f***ing knew it!" Oh well, having cleared that one up I'm now off to my own local for a pint! Y'all have fun tonight too! ;) 19.54 15 March 2008 --[[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]
:::Why does this place feel like AOL Online from the 1990's.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 20:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::: I wouldn't know. You see, I toddled home cheerfully wasted after a night out. Can you elaborate on your last comment? 06.32 16 March 2008 --[[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]
::::: haha you censored that faggot --[[butt]] 12:07, 16 March 2008(UTC)
::::::What has been censored?  -- 15.17, 16th March 2008 (GMT)[[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]
:::::::Fucking.--[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]] Today bitches.
:::::::Here's your original post where you try to be a big man by posting drunk.
::::::::"I wouldn't know. You see, I toddled home cheerfully wasted after a night out. It would appear that my world is considerably different from yauos. 06.25 16 March 2008 --[[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]"
:::::::That history button sure can be a bitch sometimes, can't it?  And what the fuck is a yauos?  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 16:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: Oh, not really, if you want to look at earlier edits that's fine by me. I simply changed my mind with regard to what I wished to write - and since we're on the subject of censorship, you appear to be the one swearing. -- 17.47, 16 March 2008 [[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]"
:::::::::: Vladimir Kosenko says, "*chugs beer*"  --[[User:Drunkfoxer|Drunkfoxer]]
::::::::::: Absoultely! Guinness I think today. Don't you like beer yourselves? -- 13.45, 17 March 2008 [[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]"
:::::::::::: Virgin. go outside. --8.29, 17 March 2008 [[User:SpaceJesus|SpaceJesus]]
::::::::::::: Ahhh, I'm just about to! Y'know, things to do, places to go! Speak to you all later! T.T.F.N! -- 14.42, 17 March 2008 [[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]"
:::::::::::::: do not roleplay on this group's page as it is not allowed thank you --[[butt]] 15:01, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::: Urm.. well actually me old mucker - Heh... I ''really'' was out. Mind you, if you buy into that whole theory of Solipsism and suchlike, who's to say we aren't all just playing out a role as we go through our lives? Bit deep for a Monday evening I know, but an interesting idea eh? -- 22.34, 17 March 2008 [[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]
:::::::::::::::: do not roleplay on this group's page as it is not allowed thank you --[[butt]] 00:12, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::  So what you're saying is "*reloads shotgun*"?--[[User:Drunkfoxer|Drunkfoxer]]
::::::::::::::::: Nah, I don't own anything like that! Far too much hassle applying for the licence, getting a metal case with two locks, bolting it to the wall and having the Old Bill come round and inspect it all. Maybe if I lived out in the country it would be worth it though. -- 00.37, 18 March 2008 [[User:Vladimir Kosenko|Vladimir Kosenko]]

===Hope You Guys Hang Around===
So, after you guys "break the game" I hope that some of you will hang around.  We need more dedicated zombies, and I fully believe in "the more the merrier" when it comes to UD.  Plus, I love seeing PC, pro-survivor sons-of-bitches cry about how their suburb has been ruined.  Keep up the good work.  {{User:BillyClubThorton/signature}} 18:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
::I know it's 'fun' to 'type' 'quotes' but the game has already been 'broken'.  When you have dumbasses like Red Rum already pissing themselves joining survivor friendly groups then the game has been changed.  I haven't seen anyone 'reload shotgun' or 'sips beer' in a while now and that is a blessing.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 21:22, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:::"First", "Red Rum" "is" "hardly" "a" "coherent" "organization"; "we're" "more" "of" "a" "loose" "organization" "of" "PKers" "who" "use" "the" "same" "forum".  "Some" "of" "us" "fight" "The Dead", "others", "like" "myself", "prefer" "to" "do our own thing".  Second, let me ask you this: what kind of idiots pay to be a part of a forum?  Does getting a SA premium account, or whatever the hell you call it, give you like access to porn or something?  Or are you just rich kids with nothing else to spend money on?  Thirdly, take the compliment for gawd's sake, you people are the most goddamn defensive sons of bitches I have ever seen.  {{User:BillyClubThorton/signature}} 16:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::It's hilarious when people make examples of themselves to show why people pay for a forum.  I swear this wiki is some sort of psychological experience gone terribly right. Ah noble Billy, don't you realize it already?  We like drama.  This game delivers what we like. On the bright side at least you sided with the winning team like so many have done and many more will do so I can't call you stupid.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 16:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::We're rich kids because we have ten dollars to pay a one-time fee?  And it's hardly fair to call us defensive when people came to our wiki pages first and kept needling us about our intent to break the game, something you yourself did.  We're accomplishing it too.  [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 21:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::All jabs aside I think all the zombie groups are doing great.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 22:22, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's nice to know. Not to diminish you guys' impact on the game or anything, but zombies were already starting to outnumber survivors (slowly) thanks to the barricade-blocking update. But you guys certainly gave us a very much needed boost. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 01:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Now that you mention it, we did actually have porn years ago. [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 00:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::You call this drama?  Well, I appreciate you realizing that I'm not trying to troll you, seriously I just was trying to pay you a compliment.  Scooby, you're right in saying that the zombie groups are doing great.  Groups such as Feral Undead and RRF have really what's been keeping this game alive for so long.  I just like guns, so I PK instead of being a zombie.  I understand you being defensive, as a lot of the wiki bitches like to bitch about bitchy things (such as people who despise Amazing), but in all seriousness keep up the good work showing survivors that UD is SERIOUS BUSINESS!  {{User:BillyClubThorton/signature}} 02:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::I can't tell if he's joking or just an idiot. [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 02:42, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Downs syndrome for sho --[[User:DrPain|DrPain]] 00:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Hey, at least I'm smart enough to realize that $10 for SA is waaaaay overpriced.  {{User:BillyClubThorton/signature}} 17:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::That's a price of a lunch in LA.  Do you live in Idaho or something?--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 18:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: It's also the price of about two and half gallons of gas these days, unfortunately. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 01:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah god forbid you pay a ONE TIME FEE of ten dollars, that's like, uh, a whole pizza you could've ordered!  We're all suckers! [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 18:40, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Its not the cost that is crazy, its what you are paying for. You are paying for something you can easily get for free. I'm sure the owner of SA must be rich now thanks to you. Cheers. [[User:The man|The man]] 18:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Is this really the first time you've heard of Something Awful? It's a well run and organized community because it doesn't allow for every idiot to register. And those idiots who do register and then post their idioctic dribble get quickly banned and lose their $10. You don't always have to pay for an account, though: I got my account as a gift from a friend. And yes, Lowtax (the owner) is loaded. And rightfully he should be. You should google him up and save us time. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 20:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::Well I wouldn't say he's loaded but he's doing what he wants to in life.  By the way, I think it's hilarious that 10 dollars is such a hot item with these idiots.  It's like the poor are trying to take over my internets in here.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 20:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Oh man I could have totally IP proofed two of my characters! --[[User:DrPain|DrPain]] 20:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I'm not saying $10 is a lot of money, it's just a lot of money to be a part of SA.  Of course, this point has sailed completely over your heads.  It's going...going...GONE!  SA is like paying a cover to get into a club and finding that all they play is Usher, the drinks are watered down, and there are no ladies present.  {{User:BillyClubThorton/signature}} 20:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Uh oh guys, he used a hyperbolic simile to tell us he has no clue what SA is. We better pack our bags. Also, it's been requested that I add the word 'Shiznappledapples.'--[[User:Bedlam|Bedlam]]
:::::::::::::::Actually, it's more like it's only a $2 cover and the other $8 goes in the bouncer's pocket to keep the fat chicks (a.k.a. you) out. [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 04:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

===Turncoat===
Just like Bill Striker before me, I too have decided to have one of my characters join The Dead.  His profile: http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=970267.  At first, I was PO'ed at The Dead and conducted an investigation.  However, I then started playing as a zombie.  Soon after, I joined The Dead.  At first, I was kind of againest this tour of destruction.  But now I've come to accept it.  I'm curious to see what will happen and am now rollin' with The Dead.  Oh, and where do you want the Typhoon-class Sub?--[[User:MikhailA|MikhailA]] 02:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:your userpage is pretty gay i would rather you not join thank you --[[User:Cymoro|Cymoro]] 12:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:Don't forget your 10bux! --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 18:40, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
::Can I has :10bux: -[[User:Dawgas|Dawgas]] 21:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Why don't you two fuck heads get a room and come back when you realize that this is exactly what we want and not '''SA ePENIS+++++++ FUCKING GOONS LOL'''.  We want to unite the zombies under one flag and make our common goal (hopefully eradication of survivors) a reality. I seriously hope we get more high level zeds that agree with us and carry The Dead tag and show you new ass jockeys the way it's supposed to be done.--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 01:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I for one welcome our turncoat friends.  I also heard rumors that our good buddy Marty Banks has joined the fold though he won't admit it on the wiki.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 21:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks Scooby, I'm glad to be a part of The Dead.  Also lookin' forward to completely demolishing Giddings.  I hope that Supreme Warleader eat flesh of every man, woman, and child in Pitneybank.--[[User:MikhailA|MikhailA]] 01:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I agree; the more that choose to join us mean the fewer that need to be eaten a second or third time before they're unable to find a syringe. This is a pretty fun game when you're "winning". :) --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 01:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::You have to make Urban Dead fun... it's not entertaining on it's own. :/ --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::[Elswhere] *Marty Banks groans. He gets the weird feeling he is the but of a joke and then shakes it off returning to the business of dying for another day* --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 19:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::Get off our page.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 16:17, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::: Awww, he name searched to see who was talking about him!  Dat's pweshus! --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 18:31, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

:::::: Well I'm not much of a turncoat myself, since I love killing survivors, but I've moved from shooting trenchcoats to high-level zombieing for The Dead. Always wanted to say I helped caused The Apocalypse. Guess this is as close as I'll realistically get. >:o  --[[User:Donathin|Donathin]] 07:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Jesus Christ after looking at your profile you can kindly take your fucking ass out of The Dead. [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 10:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::: Oh, shove it and accept the experienced help. I only add to my wiki when I'm stoned, anyways. :p   --[[User:Donathin|Donathin]] 23:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: To quote a famous professor... "Ah the Apocalypse, I always knew I'd have a hand in it..." speaking of which... AAAhhhh!!! Oh my god zombies!!! Sorry... had to get that out of my system... shock and terror at the walking undead you know... --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 18:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Whoa there tiger, crack another imaginary beer and chill out. --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 19:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

===Invitation===
I invite you all to help destroy Spicer Hill with a few of us zombies there, we've already broken into the only NT down there and infected most of the living there and destroyed the generator but wish to destroy the whole suburb and we need your help, so what do you all say? Also if you’re wondering why I a zombie now, I got bored being a survivor and decided to make a memorable zombie out of my Bill Striker account like I made a memorable survivor out of my Major Striker account.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] 18:33, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:Are you saying that you want to defect?  Bring your Typhoon class submarine with you. --[[User:DrPain|DrPain]] 23:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::Pretty much, I want to see Malton from the other side since I've been a survivor for 2 years and have done some good things. Now I want to be a zombie and tear down some stuff starting with Spicer Hill though the only area I won't touch as a zombie is Pitneybank since that is where my Major Striker account because a hero by fighting LUE and helping recapture the fort but other than that every other place in Malton is a target for me as a zombie.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] 23:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:::How do we know you aren't a double agent?--[[User:DrPain|DrPain]] 23:46, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:::: Because you can click the profile link on my wiki page and see that I'm a perma zombie now and have brain rot plus I destroyed the generator and radio and infected half the people in my old groups HQ The Brockliss Building today.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] 23:49, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Haha that's great!  Our horde is so awesome that we have sparked an insurrection!  Carry on, you crazy turncoat--[[User:DrPain|DrPain]] 00:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well now that that is settled, are you all gonna come to Spicer Hill and spice up the suburb with a few of us zombies there.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] 00:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::We plan to visit every suburb. Destruction of the entire city is our goal. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 05:16, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::::We Do not have the room on this page to entertain requests for a speedy death.--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 16:30, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well I'm done being a zombie as I found it was boring the week I was one. You all can keep that life, I'm once again a surivor so just figured I'd clear my name so I don't look like a turncoat and just for the record, the little time that I was a zombie, I only bit one person and other than that did nothing else bad to survivors.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] 01:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::Do you think we care? Seriously, do you? Would anyone care, friend or foe, that you played a totally ineffectual zombie for a week?--[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]]
::::::: I was only putting it on here incase someone was reading the above stuff and thought I was still a zombie supporter because I don't want people thinking I'm a one, I'm a survivor again and that was the only point of the above comment by me. So that was all this was and that's the end of this mater, no need to make this more than it really is so go talk about something else on this page because this little matter is closed.--[[User:Major Striker|Bill Striker]] 17:03, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I'm sure that all of the people that breathlessly follow your existence can rest easy now knowing you're a survivor again because you couldn't hack it as a zombie.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 17:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: I thought I said the mater is closed and the only reason I took time to state that I'm a survivor again is because a few people on here see someone is a zombie and think they still are and end up pking them for no reason so I put that I'm survivor again so that doesn't happen to me. Do you get it now and besides being a zombie sucks and was boring so I think this mater is closed so like I said above go comment on something else on this talk page because this mater is over.--[[User:Major Striker|Major Striker]] 17:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I don't think this "mater" is over just yet.  Just for fun I added your characters to my contact list and it looks like you're still a zombie. A brain-rotted zombie too!  If that doesn't say zombie sympathizer I don't know what does. You sir are a big fat phony!  Phony!  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 20:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Still don't matter, I haven't logged on to that account in 4 days and it has probably been killed hopefully be a survivor  and it is just gonna be inactive because it is useless now and besides I made a new survivor account that is already lev 3 and also my new main which I will put a link to in my profile soon but again I'm not a zombie supporter and this mater is CLOSED.--[[User:Major Striker|Major Striker]] 21:25, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::Punctuation can be your friend.  Don't be afraid to use it.  And your characters are all clearly zombie sympathizers, even the ones you haven't made yet.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 16:40, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::: I WILL SAY ONCE MORE TIME AND THAT IS IT. I DON'T SUPPORT ZOMBIES AND NEVER WILL. THE WHOLE REASON BEHIND THIS WHOLE ARTICLE IS THAT I WAS TESTING OUT BEING A ZOMBIE BECAUSE I DIED WITH MY BILL STRIKER ACCOUNT AND DECIDED TO THROW IT AWAY AND BECOME LEV 42 BUT THEN I PROVED MY POINT THAT PLAYING AS A ZOMBIE IS BORING AND STUPIT SO NOW I HAVE MADE A NEW ACCOUNT AS A SURVIVOR AGAIN. SO YOU SEE I'M NOT A ZOMBIE SUPPORTER AND SORRY FOR ALL THE CAPS BUT I'M IN A VERY BAD MOOD AND I'M GETTING SICK OF REPEATING A POINT THAT YOU FAILED TO REALIZE AND ALSO I CAN CARE LESS ABOUT GRAMMER SO STOP CARING ABOUT IT AS I DON'T.--[[User:Major Striker|Major Striker]] 19:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::yeah well you're gay --[[User:Cymoro|butt]] 20:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I'm sorry, I just can't understand you when you are ranting like that.  I'm afraid I'll have to end this discussion now having proven that you are clearly in the zombies' corner.  I suppose we can consider this "mater" closed.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 19:58, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::You FUCKING idiot, don't you know how to read? I think you just trying to be a asshole and get me angry to make me look bad and its working. I'm not in the greatest mood and I don't need you making it worse so stop playing coy with me and just drop this because if you don't you'll be hearing alot of my one and two word vocabulary.--[[User:Major Striker|Major Striker]] 20:58, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Further discussion regarding this mater has been deemed unacceptable.  You'll just have to live with the fact that everyone knows you are a zombie lover.  Once again, this mater is closed.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 21:04, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::: Qù nǐde! That is all I have to say because your pissing me off and I don't want to waste any more time on a ignorant fool and trying to get him under stand what I'm saying.--[[User:Major Striker|Major Striker]] 21:09, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::去你的  Not bad, I suppose.  Now let's see you use it in a sentence.  Or maybe there's some other language you want to swear in without being able to use it in any real context?  Yeah, thought not.  I guess we can consider this mater closed, too.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 21:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::I love you laughing man in an entirely platonic way.  And Striker, your meltdown is exactly the result we like to see when we disrupt the moronic roleplaying obsession in the game.  That block of text was pure comedy gold, I gotta say.  "STUPIT" and "GRAMMER."  Enough said. [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 02:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


== Why We Fight ==

* Bette Noir said "Well, well, my mayte, yes, it is The Dead. I'm sorry, are we annoying you by speaking? Should we not be running away from you in terror and fear? Sorry to disappoint. You'll get no tears from us. *Bette flashes a grin at her mayte.*" (0 seconds ago)

* John Mortimer said "*Joohn moves to stand next to Bette and grins his feral grin* It is ay goode daye fo it, is it notte. My mayte, I shaylle see you on the owther siyde *He looks at the zombies swarming the club and growls* Come on theyne, fiynishe it whiyle you cayn!" (25 seconds ago)

* Bette Noir said "*Bette laughs* Yes, that's it little one.... finish me off. *Despite the wounds she leans over to kiss John.* I will see you there." (19 seconds ago)


--[[User:BarackAttack|BarackAttack]]  3:55 PM, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'd be continuing the fight if I wasn't suddenly so sick. They typed in accents. Typed them in. They typed them in. Which reminds me, are there any Star Trek uniforms lying about the mall? I'd totally get revived just to search a mall and get one of those. ZOMBIEPICARD they'd call me. Like Borg Picard, but with more eating of the brains and less laser-eyes. Really I'm only saying all of this to drive away the image created by the pubbies who were quoted above. Uh-oh, it's coming back! --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 01:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::Personally, I think it was hilarious. ''They typed in accents!!'' Funniest thing ever. If only I had actually been in the building with them; the only way that could be better is if I saw it in-game. Plus, the image of someone chopping off zombie heads in the background while they're talking is pretty funny in its own right. Also, I wholeheartedly support the "ZOMBIEPICARD" idea. I think it would go a long way towards getting the living-impaired equal standing in the eyes of the law. Or at least Star Trek fans.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 21:54, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Can I be ZOMBIERIKER?  It might take me a few weeks to grow in the beard, but it'll be worth the wait. ---[[User:robotsinmyhead|robotsinmyhead]] <sup>[[User_talk:robotsinmyhead|BOO HOO]] | [[Image:dead_like_zed.gif|ZOMBIE]][[User:Katthew/Zombie_Improvements| RIGHTS]]</sup>
:::::::Just rip the beard off a grizzled survivor that has seen too much death in his time and longs for a return to the simpler days when he could fuck a goat with impunity  or whatever the pubs put in their damn profiles. I always stop reading.--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 18:34, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::::ZOMBIEHELM, engage! --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 16:28, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Come to think of it, we're kinda like the ZOMBIEBORG.  There's a ton of us, we shamble and follow orders, and I don't know about you guys, but I have a giant skull-crushing claw/energy bolt rifle where my arm used to be. ---[[User:robotsinmyhead|robotsinmyhead]] <sup>[[User_talk:robotsinmyhead|BOO HOO]] | [[Image:dead_like_zed.gif|ZOMBIE]][[User:Katthew/Zombie_Improvements| RIGHTS]]</sup>
::::::There's one for the suggestion page :) --[[User:Cman yall|Cman yall]] 06:19, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::There's only one place to shit on the whole ZOMBIENTERPRISE!!!111 --[[User:Heebyjeebies Jesus|Heebyjeebies Jesus]] 06:19, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


== The only tactic that will work - Hibernation ==

I was away from the game for a couple of months and returned to find that zeds were running roughshod through Malton.

Good on you my undead pals.  I have alts that have timed out and are very much alive and waiting for The Dead to grow bored before they are reactivated. 

I await your departure. --[[User:8 Bucks|8 Bucks]] 18:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

And another one bites the dust--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 20:03, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

:Since he wasn't around, it's more like "another one decides that returning isn't a good idea right now." Neither condition is anything new at this point.----[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 21:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::And another one down, another one down.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 21:55, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::: Hmm, yes, when I am losing I often just skip my turns because that is '''really the best way''' to get ahead. I was going to use a Chess analogy, but I thought it would be a bit over your head. Try this: when I am playing Candyland and end up at Gum Drop Mountain and get stuck in the Molasses Swamp I often just cry and go home after wetting myself.  Congrats, Survivors - by quitting the game you have truly won it! This man should be your king! --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 18:33, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Isn't one of your (The Dead's) main points that people are too obsessed with UD? So why are you making fun of someone who clearly isn't obsessed with the game at all? Unless I misunderstood, in which case I withdraw this comment.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 03:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Go and do some taxes and get the hell out of this page.  You're mindless.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 04:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I'm not old enough to have taxes, although I do appreciate the implication that I'm smart enough to do them on my own.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 02:07, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Only pussies use age as an excuse.  Also me saying you're mindless doesn't mean you're smart.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 02:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::An excuse for what? Not doing taxes? I think it's a pretty good excuse. As for your second sentence, I chose not to respond to your "mindless" comment. It wouldn't have been very constructive.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 03:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::So not just playing a game normally because you can't deal with playing on the other side isn't taking the game seriously now?  It's a game, you play it once or maybe twice a day.  This level of "oh ho ho look what I'm doing now" should be enough of a tipoff but since it evidently has to be spelled out:  Not playing the game '''for in-game purposes''' is the definition of taking the game seriously.  It's a game, meant to be played for brief recreation.  We don't even have to break the game balance yet before some people are too serious to continue treating it like a game.  Outstanding. *sips beer* *jumps out a window and gets a revive* *doesn't play for a month* --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 03:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::He was away from the game for months. If the suburb map history is any indication at all, the months before you showed up weren't all that bad for survivors. --[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 02:07, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::Regardless of whether we can get survivors to die and quit the game or just quit the game, the end result is that we've won. However, because I sympathize with the developer, I'd rather hope that you'd die and join us in the horde marching forth to kill everyone else. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 06:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

==Bashing In Again==
The East Coast horde is right under the Bash, looking forward seeing you guys do some damage from up close and personal this time. Want to have a race who can ruin the east coast up to Dulston first?  ;) --[[User:LuE Colo|LuE Colo]] 18:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:That sounds like fun. We'll give you guys a head start to be sporting. ;). 

Hey LuE, Let's make our goal (as zombies) to get the survivor population under 10,000. We already flipped the ratio, made the most ghost towns, made the most number of red burbs, and herded them like the sheep they are to the NE corner. That's really the only thing left to do.  Spread the Word! --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 18:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, and where the fuck are those last 3 trees?!?!?--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 18:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:::north east corner, no doubt about it. Remember, some survivors might still be carrying them so when they see an area is safe they set down the trees. Also, not all survivours are in the NE, some are in the immediate north areas such as yagotan and shearbank. The only difference between the two is that the general north has zombies and the NE corner doesn't have any. (although, with two hordes zeroing in on the location it won't be long before it gains a zombie presence ;) )  [[User:The man|The man]] 19:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Nice work on Dentonside you guys sure do move pretty quick. The Bash will step their game up I can assure you that. Oh how are the humans so unlucky to be in our path. --[[User:LuE Colo|LuE Colo]] 21:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

It was a pleasure trashing Penny Heights with you.  I'd loot you a beer, but since we're all zombies I guess I'll feeding drag you a human once we crush Dulston. [[User:DrPain|DrPain]]

Please tell me you guys are going to make a stop at Pitneybank? They need a good beatdown again haha --[[User:LuE Colo|LuE Colo]] 06:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::LuE, we respect you as a zombie horde, but COME ON! There are still people breathing! We can't have that!  BB2 needs to step it up! You know, if you would consider wearing The Dead tag we could make beautiful music together. Imagine uniting the top zombie hordes under one group! (in name only - you guys are doing a good job, but you know how much it helps when you hear a ''familiar'' groan...) Consider it. --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 14:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== Congratulations ==

I'd like to give a shoutout to The Dead. As of now, the survivor population stands at less than ten thousand. Well played.--[[User:JaundiceDave|JaundiceDave]] 01:35, 19 March 2008
:Yes, stirring words from "our leader".--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 02:22, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::I set it as a joke before they locked it. Does that article still exist?--[[User:JaundiceDave|JaundiceDave]] 03:55, 19 March 2008
:::Sorry - I was just being sarcastic. :D  I know with my bile spewing attitude and apparent seething hatred for everything it is hard to tell. You're cool. ...for now... --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 18:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Daisy.... daisy... give me... your... --[[user:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 06:01, 19 March 2008
::::This will be the most fucking stylish marriage of all time, bitch.--[[User:JaundiceDave|JaundiceDave]]

I've gotta hand it to you guys - you've sure made the game interesting, and you're the first group to force me out of Stanbury Village.  The LUE were fairly good, the SMI suck, but you guys...  Of course, I'm back now and will continue with the revives no matter what, but I just wanted to acknowledge a worthy enemy.--[[User:Buda Hilton|Buda Hilton]] 06:47(GMT), 21 March 2008
:Finally guys, we got Buda out of Stanbury, our mission in the game is actually complete.  It was fun while it lasted. [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 07:11, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:Hey, that's wonderful news!  Two questions though.  Who are you and what makes you think we care about what you're doing?  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 13:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

== Pubbie? ==
I noticed you guys are using the wrong words in urbandead to address idiotic survivors. To be honest, it kinda makes you look noobish using the wrong words and all.... The correct term for such survivors is "trenchie". [[User:The man|The man]] 19:29, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:You, sir, are a fool. [[User:JaundiceDave|JaundiceDave]]
::Why don't you tell uncle zeddie about it you faggot pub. [[User:DrPain|DrPain]]
:::Don't you get it, the manboy?--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 22:01, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I think the correct term here is raging fuck head douchebag. No quotes needed. --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 22:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::I want to hate niggers too, guys! They are what all the cool kids are saying at school! --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 04:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::hehehe... I love it when people resort to calling people names in a desperate attempt to win an argument. it makes me feel.... clever >:) [[User:The man|The man]] 14:49, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What are you arguing? You are wrong, plain and simple. [[User:JaundiceDave|JaundiceDave]]
What's there to argue?  You're a bored dipshit who blabbering it up on our page since no one pays attention to you elsewhere.  This your way of feeling important. Now excuse me fine sir as I gander at pictures of your dead grandparents.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 17:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
: Hah, is this supposed to intimidate me? Apart from the comment about me being bored you are completely wrong. The reason I'm here is because I would like to see every suburb go up in red and SA is the perfect tool to make it happen. [[User:The man|The man]] 18:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


This just in: [[User:The man|The man]] is a '''huge''' faggot racist who edits other's entries. That is all. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]]  21:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)



==Its more exciting to play==
Whaw, i stoped playing this game because as a survivor it was always rather boring as suburbs where usually safe. When i played as a zombie it was always so annoying as the humans always had the upper hand. Now no matter who i choose to play as it will always be a better and new exp. If i am a survivor who knows what might happen to me now, as a zombie it will no longer be annoying. For me it has become worhwhile to play. UD is finally like how a zombie infested city should be - zombies destroying humankind with only a few survivors left. Keep up the good work guys even though im currently a survivor. --[[User:Bono Landy|Bono Landy]] 14:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:Honestly when did our wiki page become a coffee bar for any jackoff to give us an update on them? [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 19:41, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::When it was first created, apparently. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 23:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::Perhaps you should create a new page specifically for people to comment on how The Dead have changed UD. That way not as many people would post here.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 22:36, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The Dead cured my erectile dysfunction. --[[User:BarackAttack|BarackAttack]] -2008-03-21 04:17:32 UTC

==A question==
Hey, I was wondering if you guys had any zombies near Darvell Heights at the moment. The reason I ask is there are a large amount of unruined buildings near Caiger Mall including a couple of NTs and there is only a small zombie presence in the area. I was wondering if you guys would be interested in taking it down. I know you guys are busy ruining the game but any help would be appriciated.--[[User:Srg Shawn|Srg Shawn]] 22:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:The bigger question is why don't YOU have YOUR zombie at GIDDINGS mall?  Selfish ass. --[[User:DrPain|DrPain]] 23:14, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:It may be because I didn't have enough aps to get there or it could be that I was near Caiger Mall and saw that it wasn't ruined. Meh, whatever have fun at Giddings.--[[User:Srg Shawn|Srg Shawn]] 23:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

==Interesting.==

Welcome to Urban Dead, Something Awful-ites. I'm sure we survivors appreciate you wiping us out. :P

But, seriously, good job. Now all we need is for someone to form 'The Living' and have some epic last stand at a Fort or something... Unless the military come in and shoot us first. One question, though- Are you guys using X:00 tactics (AKA LUE-style attacks) or are you attacking the way they used to do it (IE, not all at once, letting us have a chance, etc.)? I'd appreciate an answer. --[[User:Jallus|Jallus]] 13:41, 23 March 2008 (UTC) <- Least interesting sig here.
:We already have "the living". The problem though is that they are 1/10 th the side of the dead. [[User:The man|The man]] 15:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::You should recruit better. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 15:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:We make sure to attack your barricades one zombie at a time, and all of our activity is spread out equally over the course of each day. That's the only way to be fair, right? Thanks for the excellent question. Looking forward to crushing you.  --[[User:Mungbean|Mungbean]] 15:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:Jallus, we get orders from our commander to destroy a suburb. Then we destroy it. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 15:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yep, no super coordination tactics needed. The Zombie Masters say, "Make that 'burb turn grey." and we do. --[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 15:15, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Don't believe the lies ^^^^. The Dead haven't actually killed anyone. We are all just smoke and mirrors and only exist here in THE WIKI. The survivors are much too smart for us and our counsel of zombies leaders are terrified of the mounting survivor resistan- @*^$#&*#*$^#w&*)$ #w$YOU ARE ALL FUCKING ASSMUNCHING COCK RIDING CUNTWAFFLES AND THE DAY YOUR STATS REACH ZERO WILL BE LIKE FUCKING CHRISTMAS/EASTER/AND ARBOR DAY ALL ROLLED INTO ONE!   Stop asking stupid questions --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 19:35, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::and speaking of Arbor day - which one of your fuckleheads kept that spare tree up your ass for 3 months only to put it up in the last few days?!--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 19:35, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::It was me, I traveled back in time to retrieve a Christmas tree from the past to regrow the majestic forest that once grew where Malton now stands. Someday, when both survivors and zombies have moved on, the land will once again flourish as nature intended.
:::...Hey, That was fun! Still not worth using AP, though.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 19:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
::::  *plants a tree for peace*  *realizes that is a fucking waste of time in a zombie apocalypse *  *rips down tree and uses the branches to club survivors into bloody paste* - Hey ! Role Playing '''is''' FUN! --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 19:59, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::It's all in what you're role-playing. If "*sips beer*" isn't for you, go with *kills everyone*."--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 20:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

== Lockettside ==

The Valkyries and their leader are restoring Lockettside.  I've witnessed their leader talking about your group in-game.  She taunts your greatness.  Go to St. Alexanders Hospital and see what I mean. --[[User:Stephen Colbert DFA|Stephen Colbert DFA]] 22:26, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

:lol there's no girls on the internet, gg fgt.
--[[User:SpaceJesus|SpaceJesus]] 23:26, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Just like he said please don't use she  cause girls don't exist in the internet. --'''<span style="color: red; background-color:{{{3|transparent}}}">[[User:Bartholomew Kuma|Violent-kun]]</span>''' 23:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey Stephen, aren't you a part of that group that was "warring" with the Valkyries or some other shit like that? If thats the case, do the job yourself. You don't need no big bad 1.5K zombie killing machine to do it for you. Wuss.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 01:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

---Uh oh guys! Someone ''somewhere'' is making fun of us. Oh how I could just die right now.--[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]] 01:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== Survivor level  of over 9000? THINK AGAIN ==

B-B-Boo Yah. And I am the leader of the Dead of Dunell Hills according to the DHPD so I am right.--[[User:JaundiceDave|JaundiceDave]] 00:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:the dhpd are v. astute qtiyd
---Oh I get it! It's that dragonball thing! 9000! That is so fucking funny. YOU are so fucking funny. Seriously, that shit died like five years ago. No need to make it...undead.--[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]] 01:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC) Holy shit nevermind. I'm just a jackass. 8610 survivors. Average level is 10.--[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]] 01:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:What powers of observation you have, sport. [[User:JaundiceDave|JaundiceDave]]
--Yes because the same definitely can't be said for this Talk section.--[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]] 19:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

We could have like one of those counters that charities use to show how much money they've raised. But ours would be different. It would go down to show how many dead humans there are. We'd have a "goal" too! It would be ''zero''. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 19:06 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== <nowiki>*waits for a response*</nowiki> ==

just wondering what you'll do...--{{User:Rictor_Stilwell/sig}} 19:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know what this is for other than crapping on our page but your name really makes me want a corndog. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 19:23 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry to keep you in suspense, Corndoghero. Yes, you can have our man-babies. --[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 19:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::I like chocolate syrup. It makes my milk all chocolaty.--[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]] 00:35, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I like you!, You make me taste all chocolaty!--[[User:Glovey Joe|Glovey Joe]] 02:59, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Just wondering what you guys would say...

Also, The Dead seems to have issues with RPing. Could you explain why? IMO, it's kind of the purpose of an RPG--{{User:Rictor_Stilwell/sig}} 21:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

::::Maybe it's because *Stands up* it's really fucking pathetic *furrows eyebrows* to see a bunch of *wags finger* fucking idiot pubbies *waves hand to exaggerate figure* sit around *loads shotgun* living pretend lives *pumps shotgun* in a pretend city *screams in rage* and acting like *shoots zombie* their survivor characters and their menu based fucking zombie apocalypse game are the shit. *sips beer*--[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]] 00:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::::: *Looks up from his book and gives you a sly wink. As your eyes glide over his comely, feline features, you feel your loins stir*  -- [[User:BarackAttack|BarackAttack]] 2008-03-27 04:38:13 UTC

== Thanks ==

Short and sweet - Thanks for making the game a challenge. --[[User:DariusAPB|DariusAPB]] 11:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:I always loved putting in my two cents when it´s most uncalled-for. YOU ARE my SAVIOR! I´ve been excessively wasting my time with this splendid game for the last two and a half years. I always pleaded for a little "touch up" to increase the challenge. I though about many workarounds like >more than three revives and you´r getting derived<.... none of ´em seemed to utterly delight myself . And then you came with the promise to break the game. My game, my joy, my second wife....and Im just lovin it! Now survivors don´t have to imagine to be on a real mission to save the world, they <u>are</u> on a real mission to save ''this'' world!!!!!! I´ll rest my homicidal antiquarianism and join the survivors, the, for the first time in this game real, huffing and puffing fighting for their mere existence ''survivors''..... Thank you arrogant newbies for attempting to spoil everyones fun, you brought huge fun to the game. --{{User:Wasted wallaby/sig}} 14:42, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Okay, back that crazy train up. "Arrogant newbies?" Many players in The Dead are indeed new, but a great many have been here on Urbandead for quite a while. Needless to say, the original individuals responsible for urging Goons to flood on over here probably had some experience of the game from which to base their general mission here, and many members of the horde clearly have enough knowledge about the game to be getting on with. The average level of a 1500 strong horde is 10. I consider that darn impressive. As to arrogance? When you have 1400-something bruthas backing you up? Any arrogance you do have, is wholly justified by your mighty zombah boomstick. I'm with The Dead on this. I joined 'em a few days ago, specifically because I LIKE survivors who're running for their lives, forced to constantly move about as a giant zombie wave sweeps through. It gives me warm fuzzies and makes this game much more apocalypse-ey. [[User:Jerith|Jerith]] 15:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Damn kids, no respect for the elderly. Back in the days when I was new nobody would have dared to argue with the grown ups. --{{User:Wasted wallaby/sig}}
:::: I do have to concede I'm [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=423270 newer] than you by about a month. But, yeah, I agree with Doohickeybones as below, now that I think of it. I'm a clueless newbie who's about to help destroy the Treweeke Mall. And it's fun. [[User:Jerith|Jerith]] 21:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:: I suspect it is a typical case of the pubbies not quite getting the concept. They assume that by refusing to acknowledge the damage we are doing, or insisting that we are 'newbies' or arrogant teenagers, it will upset us and make us cry little pubbie tears.
::: They don't get that we Just.Don't.Care. Some of us [i]are[/i] newbies to the game. Some of us are definitely arrogant teenagers. All of us are rampaging around their little RP Wonderland, quite unconcerened about what they think of us. Our one and only objective is the annihilation of the 'survivors'. If they want to think we are all clueless newbies, fine. They are getting their asses handed to them by clueless newbies.--[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 18:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::::''They are getting their asses handed to them by clueless newbies.'' ....love that. --{{User:Wasted wallaby/sig}} 19:16, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Actually, that entire comment was funny. Handy dandy notebook time!--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 21:58, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Even When Neutered ==

We still got bigger balls. How come with the increased search rates, survivors are STILL getting smashed?  Maybe it's due to a 100 pages of tactics for a game that takes 3 minutes a day to play?  Why I never!  Maybe we should hook up a hot line to the creator for more input.  It'll be like the bat phone.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 23:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:If I had to guess, I'd say it was the multiple zombie hordes sweeping though the map at the same time. Increased search rates don't do much if all the resource building are ruined.--[[User:Scott Timewell|Scott Timewell]] 05:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::You misunderstood.  This is a recent addition due to the massive amounts of whining emails Kevan's received.  Search rates have been increased by about 15% even in ruined buildings.  If he's changing things he should probably update his RNG so it's not the basic one that's built into C+--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 16:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Faggotry by the man ==

Here we find five topics all started by the same person and all focused on the suburb map.  What's this guy's obsession with the map?  No one knows but it's starting to get pretty fucking creepy.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 14:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

=== Having trouble? ===
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Suburb
All you've succeeded in doing so far is in flipping the map of malton upside down. >.< That isn't "breaking the game" .......... Or am I wrong? Is this just part of your plan or is it a genuine setback? [[User:The man|The man]] 15:25, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, kinda. At the least? They've added a significant amount undead that MIGHT be just enough to destabalize a lot of previously held structures, or at least end the non-nomadic lifestyle survivors have previously held. But that still isn't so much breaking the game as much as it is the usual changes in tactics and adaptations both the living and dead have done since the games inception. Either way: It's a big impact for the online game. --[[User:MorthBabid|MorthBabid]] 16:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Do you guys know where our hordes are?--[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]]
::::I do. But I'd rather not say. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 17:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:Basing anything on the laughably biased suburb map is an exercise in stupidity.  Instead, let's look at something that is a bit more concrete and less pubbie edited.  Note that this is the most recent stats page refresh at the moment.
::Standing Survivors : 10338 (35%)
::Standing Zombies : 18418 (65%)
:Feel free to point out any other time ever that survivors were the minority.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 16:48, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::Anyone who has been here for a few months can tell you that the stats commonly switch around. One day we'll have a zombie majority, another a survivor majority. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 16:51, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::: Eh... No. It's not like that.  We typically have one side in the majority for at least several months before switching. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 18:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:::http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=31208statsps0.jpg Yes, the populations switch around every day. And by every day you mean once every couple of years, right?. --[[User:Killbottom|Killbottom]]  13:03, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::You know what I mean... --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::What you mean is that survivor population has been in a free fall that shows no sign of stopping and that the Dead basically move willy-nilly around several suburbs across the map at will causing abnormally huge revive queues across Malton, I presume. --[[User:Killbottom|Killbottom]]
::::::Survivor numbers have been going down ever since barricade blocking update of January 23. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 18:02, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::Not quite, it's more like a combination of possibly the largest zombie group ever created, recent zombie buffs that survivors haven't really adapted to yet and an organization of the most organized zombies in the game (the Second Big Bash). A lot of trenchies have probably left, as you can see from the zombie hunters stats (roughly half missing) and the decreased amount of active characters in Malton, despite that 1500 players have recently joined. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::The zombie hunter numbers are going down because a ton of them wind up stuck in endless waiting at revive spots because there's 50 other people there with them and a complete lack of syringes so they're stuck waiting for a week until they finally can get to a place where they can revive. --[[User:Killbottom|Killbottom]]
::::::::I say that the reason survivors are losing so badly is because most of them have little or no experience dealing with this type of situation. And thus, survivors tend to do a lot wasteful things with their AP.  They tend to waste AP shooting zombies outside the buildings or on the streets - where the zombies couldn't do any harm in the first place. That AP and ammo should only reserved for zombies inside populated buildings or for Rotters jamming the revive points.   Survivors also have this thing of staying in the same place every day. When fighting a massive zombie horde, the only way to survive is to keep moving in order to confuse the zombies. I've personally encountered survivors who have done really stupid things like attack me for some tiny bit of damage and then run away to an unbarricaded or loosely barricaded building only a few blocks away.  In those cases, I've simply used my "Scent Trail" skill to track them down and tear them to pieces.  Personally, I think it's good that survivors are losing this badly.  They've gotten rather apathetic, so this is a really good wake up call for them. We zombies are finally becoming a real danger to them rather than an annoyance. -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 17:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Exactly that, yeah. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:19, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Well, yes... most survivors are kinda dim... and the massive #s of the Dead have obviously had a huge impact. Duuuh. But, you're not solely responsible for the current state of things. And you know how you describe yourselves going from suburb to suburb smashing shit at will? Well, yeah... the Big Bash has been doing that since October... The Mall Tours did it before. Exctintion did it for a while, as well. The RRF's excusion is also rolling hard, killing survivors left right and centre. And don't forget about the Mob, MotA, FU and EF... all of whom are out there kicking ass and eating brains very destructively.... Is SA a major force? Fuck yeah. Are you doing it all by yourselves? Fuck no. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 21:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::We mustered 1500 in under one month and within that same month managed to flip the survivor/zombie ratio in a game of 34,000 characters completely backwards with under 5% of the player base, something no other zombie group has ever managed.  When are these other groups you mentioned going to do their fair share? [[User:Kid sinister|Kid sinister]] 01:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC) 
::::::::::::That's not entirely fair to say.  We don't have the advantage of coming from one single forum. But believe me, we have been doing our fair share of work. *goes back to gnawing on a leftover brain* -- [[User:Mordac the Refuser|Mordac the Refuser]] 21:13, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::Naah, don't try to use the numbers on your advantage. Considering you are 720% bigger than any organized zombie group, or 1450% bigger than any organized survivor group - of course your impact on the game is on a whole different level. But the suburb map wouldn't be half as red if it would be only SA doing the dirty work. SA might be good at destroying places, but the local zombie groups are the ones who are keeping the places destroyed. Anyway you're doing a fantastic job on making the game more interesting. *sips beer* --[[User:Snaip|Snaip]] 12:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
And don't forget all those survivors standing idle, while their owners are running around Monroeville.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:56, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:Don't worry Wan Yao, they already acknowledged the efforts of the big bash. I read it somewhere yesterday. [[User:The man|The man]] 21:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::Anyway, the survivour numbers are lower than I've ever seen, but not my much. Two times since I joined UD in october 2006 has the survivour count dropped to around 40. [[User:The man|The man]] 21:12, 16 March 2008 (UTC)Unless SA can attack the relatively fragile north quickly, survivors will take advantage of the increasing safety up there and the survivour count will begin to go up. [[User:The man|The man]] 21:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:Good god I'm amazed at how twisted you peoples' panties got when we said we'd break the game.  You'll be bitching about it months from now. [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 00:08, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, a good portion of us didn't even realize you were trying to do that until recently. :3 --[[User:MorthBabid|MorthBabid]] 08:10, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The people who came here felt strongly enough about it to post about it and scoff at us.  Unless I'm horribly mistaken we never went to other pages and told people we'd break the game, they went to our thread in our public forum and saw it. [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 09:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:::: When you see a record breaking "1500" on the stats page, the first thing anyone in their right mind will do, whether zombie or human, is to check and see what the fuck is going on! [[User:The man|The man]] 19:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

=== AHAHAHAHA!! ===
You guys rule! http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf  [[User:The man|The man]] 23:39, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::Uh oh we might get another turncoat.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 16:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Not happening, however you guys are apparently a lot cooler than I initially thought. Oh, can I ask a favor from you guys? If you manage to make every suburb in this city red, can you make a public statement saying "ALL YOUR SUBURB ARE BELONG TO US"? That would be so awesome.... [[User:The man|The man]] 19:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
::::We'll get right on that when we finish nuking Malton from orbit, killing you with fire, and quoting for truth. ---[[User:robotsinmyhead|robotsinmyhead]] <sup>[[User_talk:robotsinmyhead|BOO HOO]] | [[Image:dead_like_zed.gif|ZOMBIE]][[User:Katthew/Zombie_Improvements| RIGHTS]]</sup>
:::::Hey guys my big brother told me about this thing called LOL-Cats its pretty funny you should check it out if you want to rotfl lol.  ---[[User:Drunkfoxer|Drunkfoxer]]

=== You're losing dangerous ground ===
survivors are making a mass effort to reclaim the [[Survivor Security Zone]] as you can see from the [[Suburb]] page and the [[Mall Information Center]] . If they succeed in doing so, the survivors from the north east will easily flee from the NE to the south once you attack the NE. In other words, if you goal is to break UD, you had '''better''' hurry up and destroy the survivour security zone before its too late. [[User:The man|The man]] 14:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Too bad the suburb wiki means jack.  "Hey guyz I walked into a block of a suburb and didn't see any zombies so I'm changing the color from red to green ok.  1337_Z0mbi3S1ayr_2005"  [[User:Spacejesus|SpaceJesus]] 9:39, 20 March 2008
:You're an idiot, we've never even been to half of those malls. Go ahead and reclaim them. I'm practically salivating at the thought of taking four malls in one day. --[[User:Lektroluv|Lektroluv]] 16:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Dangerous ground? Think about it. Once the North-East is crushed, of course any remaining survivors will try and flee south or west. Once they've finished running they'll do their best to re-establish themselves in the utterly destroyed suburbs we leave in our wake, they'll start lighting and barricading NTs and Malls. As soon as they become a target large enough to appear on our radar; we'll crush them. Again, and again, and again. Once the numbers of survivors drops below a certain point it will become almost impossible to get yourself revived, something that's already becoming a problem as it is. As soon as revive points are advertised they will be destroyed. Welcome to your zombie nightmare. --[[User:Deadtanian|Deadtanian]] 16:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::yeah, but if the survivour security zone is in survivour hands it becomes a lot easier for the survivors to reclaim the south. Also, specejesus, if you think the ratings on the suburb and the mall are wrong, how about correcting them, eh? dumbass. [[User:The man|The man]] 18:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I think it'd be a '''better''' idea for you to spend less time waggling around your e-penis on our wiki, and more time stockpiling those syringes, pubbie.  There's so few left, and the clock is ticking...[[User:MonkeyMortis|MonkeyMortis]]
::::I'm a zombie player.  [[User:The man|The man]] 18:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Well it won't mater because with or with out the security zone us survivors won't ever be completely killed off because we can just move to suburbs with nothing in them but 1 or 2 NTs in them or idle out and wait for the danger to pass and the game to return 
to normal.--[[User:Major Striker|Major Striker]] 18:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yeah guys we're gonna stick our heads in the sand and act like nothing's happening and then my super awesome lvl 31 scientist is gonna load up on syringes and you guys aren't even gonna notice me and im gonna save malton.  (This is what you people sound like, I'm not even trying to be all that facetious) [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 20:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::This internet stuff? It's serious business. We should leave editing the wiki's danger ratings to the professionals here. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 22:00, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:The [[Survivor Security Zone]] sounds more like something somebody thought up of to be clever with their mall radius map than anything real anyway.  The upper half of that at least is regularly destroyed by the RRF.  The proximity of a mall to another mall != the security it provides to survivors.  But hey, if there are survivors who want to move out closer to our hordes and give us XP on the way to smashing their "safe" suburbs we'll accept the free food. --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 20:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah dont tell me youre expecting to crush all our suburbs and stop us from getting revives. Kevan will come up with some new updates for survivors soon to balance it out and our malls will be retaken.  --[[User:Doctor Oberman|Doctor Oberman]] 23:34, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Go watch some zombie movies.  I doubt that 'Kevan' would want the Barbie Wonderland that you envision this game to be.  If you're getting bored maybe, I don't know, act like a zombie for a change?  Now get the hell out of here while we continue to dominate.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 23:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::Now Scooby im a pretty nice person and I was merely saying that Kevan will probaly balance the game out more fairly if this continues.. but since you have mentioned repeatedely you just looove drama let me explain some things. I play PKer/Survivor/Zombie with my zombie as my strongest character and PKer second. I like the challenge on all sides of the conflict and it looks like youre just making assumptions about me ALL OF WHICH WERE COMPLETE FALSE. I by no means want a "wonderland" but more of a tug of war battle between the 2 main sides. I have fun playing zombie an enjoy zombie movies (I mean why the fuck would I be playing if I didnt like zombie?) Anyways good luck on your crusade and I look forward to fighting alonside you at Giddings. =)--[[User:Doctor Oberman|Doctor Oberman]] 01:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::You said "our suburbs" and "stop us from getting revives" and "our malls".  You have an "us against them" personality and we really don't give a damn.  We really don't give a damn what "Kevan" does, because we've already reduced the survivor population to under 10,000 and it's showing no signs of reverting.  Anyways, it's more pathetic that the only way to stop the Dead is to change the mechanics of the game.  oh yeah, "COMPLETE FALSE".  Jesus, if you want to emphasize something, at least make sure you write it correctly. [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 01:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::LMAO Jones you said its pathetic to  turn the tide with game mechanics when in fact if it werent for all these changes the zombies have recieved the tide wouldnt have turned in the first place. Hmmm hypocritical? Sure be proud of the fact you reduced survivor population to under 10,000 but all I said was theres a snowballs chance in hell you'll be able to finish survivors off for good. It doesnt take a prosurvivor with a "us against them attitude" to know it wont happen. (mind you I was defending the prejudice statments made against me,) Apart from that all ive really seen out of you besides a hyprocritical statement was a  "We dont give a damn about this or that or what you do" trash talk. Yeah that's a great argument you got going there for someone who gives a damn enough to argue back! --[[User:Doctor Oberman|Doctor Oberman]] 02:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
We don't care about your arguements over a browser game.  If it makes you feel like you're accomplishing something worthwhile then by all means keep it up.  We love it when people care about us.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 03:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Good freaking lord you're a moron.  Seriously Oberman just pack it in, it's kinda sad at this point. [[User:Rudiger Jones|Rudiger Jones]] 03:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

=== You have FAILED ===
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Suburb Nice try anyway. The south is in full bloom, most of the suburbs in the south are in the process of being repaired. All it took was a leak from the norht to revive the south. Oh and I would like to point out that I TOLD you that survivours would use the gap in the center of malton to move down south. You wouldn't listene to me and Now its all over, malton is recovering and there is nothing you can do to stop it. [[User:The man|The man]] 10:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:You sucks, who the hell cares if Malton recovers. --'''<span style="color: red; background-color:{{{3|transparent}}}">[[User:Bartholomew Kuma|Violent-kun]]</span>''' 11:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:Damn those tricksy survivors! Oh dear, whatever will we do? Oh wait, we should go throw them a housewarming. --[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 11:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:You are really obsessed with the suburb map, aren't you?  I certainly wouldn't base my success or failure on something so easily edited and prone to bias.  Instead, I'd rather focus on something a bit more concrete like zombies outnumbering survivors over 2-1 and survivor numbers steadily dropping below 8k.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 13:35, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:: I think he has a map fetish and he wants to get fucked by a fucking map.--'''<span style="color: red; background-color:{{{3|transparent}}}">[[User:Bartholomew Kuma|Violent-kun]]</span>''' 13:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? You've really got a strange idea of what constitutes failure, this section is just plain embarrassing. --[[User:Deadtanian|Deadtanian]] 14:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Yeah... I wouldn't trust that map. 
In fact, active misinformation is being placed on it, as per numerous discussions I've witnessed, such as [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:RichterFury&diff=1075319&oldid=1075142#Suburb this] one. So, any claims you make that The Dead are in some way failing because they haven't turned the whole suburb map red? Give them time to make an accurate suburb map on some neutral site that can't be edited by wiki-warrior pubbies. The Dead is seriously disrupting the calm pubbie/trenchcoater/what have you way of life. This makes me happy. I've switched all my Survivors over and am helping out with various wrecking procedures. Of course, this is just in keeping with my dual nature attitude (When I'm a zombie, I act like a zombie. When I'm a survivor, I act like a survivor.) But, as I have brain rot, and The Dead have made powered NTs a novelty and a rarity... braaainz. I welcome all other longtime players who're tired of survivors becoming too comfortable (and of this game not looking like a real zombie apocalypse), to join up with The Dead. I note: the brains of survivors who're making "heroic last stands", taste the sweetest. [[User:Jerith|Jerith]] 15:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

:Actually I am aware that the map is incorrect. In reality there are supposed to be alot '''less''' red areas. You have no idea, suburbs all over are recovering. [[User:The man|The man]] 17:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Knowing the truth and lying to yourself is an unhealthy exercise in furthering your own downfall of mental education.  I hate to see your personal life.  Maybe take a break from the wiki and go outside for a bit, hmm?--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 19:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::Do you mean like the NT and Revive Point combo at the Button Building? It was ruined this morning. I am sure they will get it back up in no time, though. Or do you mean the Needs Building NT and revive point? That one looks like it will probably live a little longer.
::Yeah, we know. If you are in such a hurry to see them wiped again, go gather your own mega horde and lead 'em along. We can all circle the map in two groups like some malignant YingYang symbol.--[[User:DoohickeyBones|DoohickeyBones]] 18:06, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::It's funny because they probably think that's a viable tactic.  It's also sadly ironic that many of their 'self praised' heroic veterans are quitting when the time of heroes is now.  Wah Wah I guess.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 19:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Funny, the survivor population seems to still be at '''31% and falling'''.  Malls are ransacked and infested at an unprecedented level.  Professional Survivors (who refuse to ever play zombies) are quitting the game in droves out of frustration.  The suburb map means nothing, but hey, thanks for updating it and betraying the survivors who actually want to have a chance at hiding from legitimate danger.  You'd be better off turning everything red and slipping off the map to make our job harder, but you won't.  You talk about our egos, but your own ego will be your destruction.  --[[User:Jaster|Jaster]] 20:47 UTC 26 March 2008
:Unfortunately there has been a resurgence of survior revive rates.  Check the [[stats]] page. =(  Can we get more corpses from SA??  Another 1000 zombies should be plenty. =) [[User:Wenin|Wenin]] 18:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::If the new increased Find Rates gives you a boner, I hate to see your sex life.  Keep  it up though!  Hopefully by the time we're done, Kevan will completely nerf zombies so they're completely useless.  Either way you can go back to pretending to pet monkeys in a zombie video game.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 18:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Scooby, are you jumping to conclusions and thinking that I'm pro-survivor?  Or were you talking to someone else?  I want to see every suvivor dead in the game.  It is the ONLY end game that is possible, and I want to see this happen! Send more zombie players from SA!!! =) [[User:Wenin|Wenin]] 22:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I just type complete junk with a few exceptions so don't mind me.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 22:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
You have FAILED to say anything worth reading in your long history of editing this page and the dodh one and we're not making giant headers on your userpage >:( --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 04:51, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

=== A message to the dead ===
Please disregard the latest "oranging" of the south, it is merely an act of a wiki vandal. The map will be corrected as soon as possible. [[User:The man|The man]] 08:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:I knew it you have a map fetish. --'''<span style="color: red; background-color:{{{3|transparent}}}">[[User:Bartholomew Kuma|Violent-kun]]</span>''' 10:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:TheMap.jpg]]
:
If there's a [[Suburb|place]] you got to go<br>
I'm [[Trenchcoater|the one]] you need to know<br>
I'm [[User:The man|the man]]<br>
I'm [[User:The man|the man]]<br>
I'm [[User:The man|the man]]<br>
If there's a [[Suburb|place]] you got to get<br>
I can get you there I bet<br>
I'm [[User:The man|the man]] (repeat 12 times)

That pic made my day. --'''<span style="color: red; background-color:{{{3|transparent}}}">[[User:Bartholomew Kuma|Violent-kun]]</span>''' 13:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

:my zombie's manbagz need some oranging too, could you oblige? -spacejesus

Says the man who edits other's comments maliciously. You, sir, are nothing but a hypocrite. --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 14:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm glad you like the pic, it was a bit of inspiration from nights of insomnia. --[[User:ZSandmann|ZSandmann]] 18:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::::To clarify, I was calling "the man" a hypocrite because that's what he is. --ExtraNoise
:::::If you are not going to post some evidence that I'm "maliciously editing other's comments" please stop making a fool of yourself and buzz off. Oh and Violent Kun, how can I be a trenchie when I'm a zombie? Jeez, you guys are so funny when you try desperately hard to insult someone that you make my day with each one of your attempts. Ah..... this I why I love this page. Hmmm, maybe I have developed a fetish for watching people make fools of themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if thats the case. :P . I think I'm going to bookmark this page just so that when I'm feeling bored or upset I can come over here and cheer up :) Oh, nice picture by the way. [[User:The man|The man]] 19:54, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit: Fuck.''' Nevermind. You win this time, Joe''!!'' --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 01:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
::Who are you talking to?  I never seen someone type out their mental processes before.  It's like you're trying to fix your anger issues by pretending to create false arguments and then solving or some shit.  Psychology students would have a field day with you and this game.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 21:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::No they wouldn't. There isn't much to him other than "Hay guys! Look at the map! It says your doing poorly even though there are no safe suburbs. Look at it! Also, I am not a survivor. Don't forget that guys. That I ain't a survivor. Because I'm not. I'm a zombie. AND YOU GUYS SUCK!"--[[User:Bedlami|Bedlami]] 23:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Who are ''you'' talking to? I was talking to "the man" because he edited an entry of mine to make me sound like a racist. Normally I wouldn't mind, but because he started crying about the map being edited I thought I'd bring up the issue he's a huge pubbie wikiwarrior hypocrite. Unfortunately for my argument, "the man" is possibly the least creative username in the history of the internet, only being surpassed by "asdf". --[[User:ExtraNoise|ExtraNoise]] 01:33 28 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Why, to THE MAN, you pile of hot sexiness.--[[User:ScoobyDooDoobie|ScoobyDooDoobie]] 00:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Turns out he didn't. Blast my ineptitude. I still think the man needs to get a life, however. --ExtraNoise
:::::::Hah! I don't believe this, you guys actually went so far as to edit my post. Congrats on the vandal warning, next time its a 24 hour ban. :) [[User:The man|The man]] 10:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)