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===[[User:Finis Valorum]]===
Is [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Santlerville&curid=1212&diff=1047209&oldid=1047044 this] vandalism?--{{User:Lh778/sig}} 14:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:Well, according to this (My bold):
{{Quote|Sig Policy|"The handle portion of your signature '''must link to your user page or one its subpages''' so that it is easy for readers to learn more about the person behind the signature."}}

...it would be.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 14:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:LeSigh... this could be called ''impersonation'', therefore vandalism, but i am in a good mood today (i am also lazy) and am not going to warn someone for such stupid edit. Just talk with the damn troll and tell him not to do it again... you also have my blessing to change the edit and point it to the right user. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 14:51, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Lh can handle it. I'm busy.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 14:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:0_o. I [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Santlerville&diff=1047223&oldid=1047209 fixed the sig] and the time (i hadn't used the normal <nowiki>--~~~</nowiki>] if that's what bothers you.--[[User:Finis Valorum|Luke Skywalker]] 14:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

:I don't know, depends how well Finis knows hit signing. Otherwise it's assuming Bad Faith which, is pretty pointless considering that there is no [[User:Luke Skywalker]] so it's not impersonation, just violation of the policy SA mentioned. I'm inclined to be lenient on this matter so, unless someone can show evidence that he's aware of that policy or had a Bad Faith intention I'm gonna have to rule '''Not Vandalism'''. If someone can show either of those things I'll revisit my ruling.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::And the little tool already changed his siggy while we were having this discussion... see, there was no need to create this case :P --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 14:54, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it wuz just a mistake. I've also gone through my contributions and removed all sig policy violations.--[[User:Finis Valorum|Finis Valorum]] 15:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, if you really want to, you can sign as the name Luke, it just has to link to your user page (Or a sub page, clearly showing that you are the owner). And if you are interested, there's an entire page written for step-by-step instructions on how to do it all. Its in the help section.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 00:34, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Jmaze]]===
{{vndl|Jmaze}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Lejnair_Case_Files&curid=79628&diff=1045500&oldid=1045464 Blah blah...] --{{User:The Surgeon General/sig}} 03:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Warned''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 04:04 28 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:Metal_Halide]] ===
{{vndl|Metal_Halide}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=CRASH&diff=1045212&oldid=1045210 this]. It's like bloody rush hour on this page.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 00:06, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Vandalism''' - I reverted it back a few minutes ago and was deciding what to do with him. I think a '''Permaban''' is in order here. No constructive edits from what I can see, more than 3 edits. If I am wrong, please feel free to correct me. I'll stick him on a 24 hour just to stop him till a more experienced sysop can back me up. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::I was just about to perma him myself, I'll up his edit in a second.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Laughing Man]] ===
{{vndl|Laughing Man}}

For creating [[User:DCC/Cheeseman is a bloody cum filled fuck pocket that needs a Ginsu enema|this]] page. I'd like to also request this page speedy deletion :P --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 23:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:We are compiling personal opinions about recent events and DCC's talk page is the central gathering point. The page in question here was an example within that page. {{S|'''Not Vandalism'''}} --[[User:Gregarious Instigator|Gregarious Instigator]] 23:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
::<small>Ruling struck to prevent confusion as user is not a [[Special:Listadmins|Sysop]].--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)</small>

::I'd like to say most people could see that, but we all know how this will end, don't we?  He's in such a hurry to remove me I don't even get a User: in front of my name.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 23:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
::Please don't rule on cases when you are not a sysop, thanks. The problem with the page creation is that it looks like that's DCC's opinion, when it may not be. He didn't look like he wanted to create the page anytime soon. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:22, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:::It is MY OPINION. I am DCC and I approve of this message.  also {{S|'''Not Vandalism'''}}--[[User:DCC|DCC]] 23:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
::::<small>Ruling struck to prevent confusion as user is not a [[Special:Listadmins|Sysop]].--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)</small>
:::::Ruling also struck because it doesn't agree with your opinion and you have a history of striking votes you don't like. --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 23:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::No, the decision over whether something is vandalism or not is up to the sysops. If that wasn't the case, any user reported here could just make an alt and rule themselves as Not Vandalism. Therefore Karek is right in striking the ruling. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 23:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Vandalism''' - I'm just contemplating what the punishment will be as, thanks to his lack of doing anything other than harassing users, I actually has choices.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:22, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
::Well no surprise here! Just go ahead and make up your mind without getting the facts. It's ok - we are used to it!! --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 23:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
::[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Dunell_Hills&diff=prev&oldid=914750 This] is contributive enough, so I don't think a perma is appropriate. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, nevermind. Wrong user. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
::Oh man, can't wait to see what it's going to be!  Will it be a one day ban, followed immediately by a two day ban just because you feel like it?  Or will you go straight for the permaban?  This anticipation is ''killing'' me!  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 23:42, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
'''Warned''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 04:00 28 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:Ihall4]]===
{{vndl|Ihall4}}

For [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Firearms&diff=prev&oldid=1043373 these] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Firearms&diff=prev&oldid=1043367 two] edits to the firearms page.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Warned''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:40 27 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:OcularSucks]]===
{{vndl|OcularSucks}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:Druuuuu/Ocular&diff=1043554&oldid=1006829 I have a fan!] --[[User:Druuuuu|Druuuuu]] <sup style="font-size:70%">[[User:Druuuuu/Ocular|Oc]][[User talk:Druuuuu|T]][[Red Rum|RR]]</sup> 01:22, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Vandalism''' and warned.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Doctordeath99]]===
{{vndl|Doctordeath99}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Useful_Items&curid=966&diff=1043353&oldid=1040345&rcid=1063786 This] and [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Firearms&diff=prev&oldid=1043351 this] where he purposely alters the pages to provide false information, 4 edits, three vandalism(he already has a warning), one wiping his talk page. I've '''Permabanned''' him in accordance to the [[A/G#When_a_User_May_be_Warned_or_Banned|When a User May Be Warned or Banned]] portion of [[A/G|Administration Guidelines]].--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Telenti]]===
{{vndl|Telenti}}

A little late, but [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Santlerville_Zombie_Strategy&diff=1013031&oldid=885517 vandalism of Santlerville Zombie strategy page]. Since when do we remove anything on this wiki because it can be used to grief? Request permission to re-add the content. -- [[User:Iscariot|Iscariot]] 17:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Content Re-added from pre-censored version. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[DHPD]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 22:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

'''Warned''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 02:12 27 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:Buck Rogers]]===
{{vndl|Buck Rogers}}

Seems to be an alt of [[User:Gengen|Gengen]], created simply to remove all the survivor groups from any suburb that is red <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 08:01 26 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:'''Permabanned''' - Vandal alt, we have rules against that type of thing. Also escalating Gengen by one level(issuing second warning), he knows what he did was not going to fly from both his previous report and [[Talk:Dunell_Hills#DHPD_Presence|this]] discussion. --<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 08:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Life was pain]]===
{{vndl|Life was pain}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:The_dead_of_Dunell_Hills&diff=prev&oldid=1042259 Wiping talk page] and replacing it with an insult <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 05:04 26 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:'''Warned'''--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Zombified]]===
{{vndl|Zombified}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Image%3ADeadofDunell.png&diff=1041858&oldid=1040937 This edit] in which he vandalizes an image. Other edits of note would be [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_dead_of_Dunell_Hills&curid=79654&diff=1041839&oldid=1041811&rcid=1062246 this] one in which he vandalizes a wiki page. 5 some edits, none contributive, two of them vandalism. . .--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Ach, would protecting the image stop from uploading? The reversions on that thing is epic. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Actually this is the kind of vandal you can ban yourself without requesting for others to do the task... go ahead, he is all yours. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 02:01, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:I would have thought 24hrs was more appropiate, but meh. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Presumably he's a member of The Dead Of Dunell Hills. That would vandalism only on the image uploads, wouldn't it? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 02:57 26 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:No, it wouldn't, the NPOV section makes that very clear. Group pages are meant to be informational first, owned second.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::Zombified's [[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_dead_of_Dunell_Hills&oldid=1041839 version]] is much more informational than [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_dead_of_Dunell_Hills&oldid=1041857 the current version] that you protected. A ban is out of line for this edit, which is an arbitration issue. I don't know what the image uploads were, as it's been deleted now <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 03:09 26 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:::I protected what was requested, I'll probably end up reverting it back to the version before Zombified's edit, one that was also made by a group member, the protection was simply made to stop the constant edit wars that were happening on that page. As for a ban, I disagree, he came as part of a call on the SA boards to basically vandalize that page specifically. There are limits to page ownership.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Aye aye. Everything karek did was upon my request and/or blessing. I requested the page's protection and I gave him the right to ban the user as he see fit, even though he was the one who asked for the user to be dealt with. The image was also deleted after a speedy deletion was made. There was nothing wrong in Karek's actions here. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 03:25, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I actually thought AHLG was the one to do the banning, until after my first post here, and OK, I'll not be taking this to Misconduct, because I figure the intention was to mess with the wiki. But we really should have sorted this whole drama out via arbitration before it came to this point. It's their group page, and we do need to weigh their wishes along with the need for a basic page for such a high profile group (feel free to move my posts to the talk page if you want to continue this discussion) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 03:37 26 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:DCC]]===
{{vndl|DCC}}

Just spammed up Recent changes with a bunch of new DoDH pages. Links in a sec. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:21, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

:There is no need to link. We ain't blind. DCC was banned for a day, since i belive simply warning him to stop it would actually stop him. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 00:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::Good point. :P There's quite a lot of them now. All this over a single page? Kind of pathetic isn't it? -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Agreed, '''Vandalism'''.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I am seriously insulted there wasn't a "the dunell hills of dunell hills" page.--[[User:Gregarious Instigator|Gregarious Instigator]] 00:45, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::I was very proud of the MP feeling better going to go for a walk now version. The next time they ban Katthew pointlessly I'll try to come up with something better.  Oh wait, they have banned her. I have to wait until her stupid time out from the little  power mad mod is over and do something new. --[[User:DCC|DCC]] 09:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Katthew]]===
{{vndl|Katthew}}

Substing [[:Image:DeadofDunell.png|this image]] with crap. While this image is a representation of the Dead's logo, this image is used in a [[DHPD/the dead of Dunell Hills|page]] hosted by the [[DHCP]] to collect information about this group. If katthew want the right logo for her group to be hosted here, she should upload it somewhere where it wont change the image being used by the DHCP. She was already asked not to touch that image, but even then she did. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 19:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

:: I see you fail to mention the fact that the page he is altering is a blatant workaround copy of a page that was voted to be deleted. You can't vandalize a page which is itself a vandalization. Vandalize the wiki by putting up a page after it's been voted for deletion and deleted, and people will change the content of that page to reflect their disapproval of that. [[User:Addison Strack|Addison Strack]] 19:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Vandalism''', it's busy enough that I'm gonna be ruling on stuff for a bit. You're escalation will be done after some Sysop discussion on the matter, you'll know before your current 24h ban is up though.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:Well, since there's no discussion on the matter from other Sysops, and the image is now deleted, I'm going to apply the escalation.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:''discussion moved to talk page''

===[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]]===
{{vndl|Riseabove}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Dead_of_Dunnell_Hills&diff=next&oldid=1040895 This] edit in which he purposely breaks a redirect and [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_dead_of_Dunell_Hills&diff=prev&oldid=1040388 this] one where he blanks a redirect.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Vandalism''' --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 19:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:As a member of the group whose page is in question; --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 19:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
: Members of the group can edit the page, what the fuck is wrong with you hagnat? If I make /red_rum reirect to /DHPD/Warrants/Red_Ru m would that be acceptable?..--[[User:Thekooks|Thekooks]] 22:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::The problem wasn't that he edited the page Kooks, it was that he was breaking the page on purpose. For example his recent edit to the page isn't vandalism, but the two listed here are a different story.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::He fixed the page. It should never have been redirected in the first place.--[[User:Thekooks|Thekooks]] 22:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::No, he didn't fix the page, he changed it so it would be random words. It's no better than the below edit where Katthew replaced the page with <s>COCKS</s>BONERS.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:46, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Katthew|Katthew]]===
{{vndl|Katthew}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_dead_of_Dunnel_Hills&diff=prev&oldid=1040912 This], where Katthew purposely breaks a page abusing, and misusing, the ownership rights rule and the edits to [[:Image:DeadofDunell.png|this]] image. --<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:Ohmy... '''vandalism''' for the broken redirect pages... could you warn her for the image subst above ? --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 19:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|DanceDanceRevolution]]===
{{vndl|DanceDanceRevolution}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Finis_Valorum&diff=1040003&oldid=1036766 Altering] my signature in a post. Impersonation. Hardly an unintentional mistake.--[[User:Finis Valorum|Finis Valorum]]
:'''Warned''' for impersonation, in future, make sure you timestamp your reports. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 09:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Stevetampa|Stevetampa]]===
{{vndl|Stevetampa}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Nichols_Mall&curid=1430&diff=1039961&oldid=1039176 How original...] --{{User:The Surgeon General/sig}} 05:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:Uhm, [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AStevetampa&diff=1039972&oldid=1039971 Boxy warned him], but, since it's his third edit, second of impersonation, it might be best to just drop the 3 edit rule on him, I really doubt he's going to do anything other than impersonate and vandalise.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe, or maybe he just needs a welcomenewbie template to set him straight (jokes) ;) I wont misconduct ya for doing him in <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 05:49 25 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:::Meh, he's already been warned, but, if his next edit is vandalism I'll do it then.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Keven|Keven]]===
{{vndl|Keven}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevan&curid=1072&diff=1039897&oldid=1039793 Impersonation], overall bad faith. --{{User:The Surgeon General/sig}} 03:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:I think we should drop the bomb on this one outright, despite only two edits. The account was obviously created for the purpose of impersonation, and as such should be treated as a vandal alt <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 06:04 25 February 2008 (BST)</small>
::Seconded. If he really wanted to contribute positively, he shouldn't have made an impersonation account. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, he's gone. The whole purpose of the account was impersonation and vandalism.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

==={{usr|The Dead}}===
{{vndl|The Dead}}

Deletion workarounds.

[[The_Dead_of_Dunnel_Hills|One out of many]].--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 22:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

:No. The Dead of Dunnel Hills is a group, and should have a page for their own. If katthew doesnt want this page, since she appears to be the leader of this group, this page can be transformed into a redirect to [[DHPD/the dead of Dunell Hills]]... which is what i am about to make it --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 23:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::That page doesn't matter, I'm pretty sure the capitalization needs to match for the Stats page to hit it.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::And also, Deletion Workarounds are a [[A/SD|Speedy Deletion Criteria]] report it there in the future please.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, I saw this (the bolded bit), and figured I'd put it here.
{{Quote|Speedy Criteria|Deletion Workaround: The page is a duplicate of a page that has been deleted from a previous deletion request (please note the relevant deletion request if this is so). A page that fits this criterion is immediately qualified for deletion without requiring it be nominated on the 'Speedy Deletions' page.''' Recreating a page that fits this criterion will get you a polite message to stop doing so. Any further infractions of this nature will qualify as vandalism and will be treated as such.''' Note that criterion 6 does not apply when the page has been restored through Undeletions.}}
:::Oh well.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 00:46, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:I personally take offense to the fact that we asked for the page to be deleted, then had a copy and paste page put up in its place under the new heading [[DHPD/the dead of Dunell Hills]] when compliance was achieved. When one of our members put up vague pages for us, someone then saw fit to delete them and redirect them all to the DHPD stub. Are we not allowed to operate under the cloak of secrecy? We don't care if anybody thinks we're zergers or whatever asinine reason you people keep using to justify adding a page for us, we simply don't want any mention on the wiki. Period. [[User:Gregarious Instigator|Gregarious Instigator]] 06:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::To tell you the truth that's not exactly how a wiki works, it's pretty much against the whole basic mission statement of a wiki which is, more or less, to provide what information is available in a factual and neutral manner, it's not for those who know the subject matter it's for everyone else who doesn't. Having an article on the group, I'd say, is fine, as long as they aren't crossing the line into impersonation or POV/slander that is.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 06:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Exactly my point. If anyone want to write a NPOV description of a group that doesnt have a page in the wiki, that's fine. If the group members want to edit the page with nonsense, it's their call, but the NPOV description of the group should remain. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 11:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::i know i'm not involved in this and shouldn't be commenting, but whatever. From my perspective this is VERY clear-cut. tdoDH "own the rights" to their group page. And if that means keeping the group page non-existent, that's their right. Only group members can edit the group's page, no? That should include page creation... However, anyone can write whatever the fark they want ''ABOUT'' tdoDH on the wiki... ''as long as it is not masquerading as their group page.'' Thus the current file/folder location "DHPD/the dead, et al" is perfectly legit -- but the fact that it is masquerading (i.e. formatted) to look like an actual group page is pushing it... big time... Especially since it contains derogatory and unsubstantiated allegations and hearsay... A DHPD info page sure? A DHPD-sponsored mockup of their group page? No. Anyway... my un-asked-for 2 bits worth. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:26, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Seriously ... this case is important because it will set, or reflect previous, precedent about group page ownwership and what that entails. Which is why I am commenting on the case, even if it's not technicaLLY my place to so: I believe this is important to the wiki as a whole... Stick this on the Discussion page if need be, whatever, but IMNSHO it ought to be aired out. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::So then Karek, since the guiding principles of wiki are information, I'm perfectly allowed to go make a page about how user X is a pedophile, as long as I have court records and proof that they are that person, so as to negate calls of slander? If not, why? I'd merely be telling people who that person is and what they do. Just like the DHPD stub on us. It is about as relevant to the situation as us being from SA and being notorious greifers, and neither a history in pedophilia nor our affiliation is information we or the hypothetical user X want publicly known.[[User:Gregarious Instigator|Gregarious Instigator]] 16:23, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::To be clear, I don't think anybody cares if you report our ACTIONS ingame. The fact that we've assisted with the Nichols Mall etc. Discussion about what badasses we are is encouraged, infact. But we want news, not a rap sheet. [[User:Gregarious Instigator|Gregarious Instigator]] 16:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::As I am Dead, and from dunnel hills, and in the group, and participate in the actions, I should be able to modify our wiki, since every other group does it as well. Let's take DHPD for instance. They have "NPOV - little text - End of NPOV" and write whatever they want after that. So why don't I have access to change our page as we see fit, but other groups do? Other groups post whatever they want on the wiki, and so do we.... This also fits a lot better for the game that zombies don't have giant pages detailing every single policy, forum and news. TDoDH are zombies, not some group for the yellow pages. Others in the group weren't happy either with the current, or "pre-vandalized" page, as you can see from the picture. What we do in game is for everyone to see (and comment on?), everything that is not done in the game is not.BRAAAAIIINNSSS [[User:The Dead|The Dead]] 16:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::*[[User:Gregarious Instigator|Gregarious]], if you reread what I said you'll notice I did actually exclude POV and slander, which is exactly what that would be. DHPD can have whatever information they want in their namespace, groups have kept records on other groups for personal use in the past. --<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::*And yet, as I said in my hypothetical, that information would be accompanied with court records as well as records indicating that user X was the subject of those court records. By definition, slander is the spread of '''false''' information. But, [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct/Archive/Karek]] I can understand if you're willing to blindly turn an eye. --[[User:Gregarious Instigator|Gregarious Instigator]] 17:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::*[[User:WanYao|WanYao]], the precedent has been set for a long while actually, the NPOV section is editable by anyone, if the group doesn't want to provide additional information of use [[:Category:Recruitment]] they don't have to but, they have no control over the existence of a page they didn't create, especially when all they are doing is trying to stir up drama for the fun of it.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::*[[User:The Dead|The Dead]], You can change whatever you want about the page ''except'' the NPOV section, but you can only do that on the version in the main namespace, the DHPD subpage one is completely beyond your reach and editing it may be taken as vandalism.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::You know what else can be taken as vandalism?  Recreating a page that's already been deleted.  Hell, there's even a brief definition of it further up in this thread.  --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 17:47, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::You've only half answered my question, Karek. Or maybe I didn't understand the answer... dunno... So what you're saying is that anyone can create the main namespace for a group, even non-group members? And anyone can edit the short NPOV blurb at the top (that no one cares about anyway), but only group members can legitimately edit the POV parts? Which means that, for example, tdoDH can't do shit if, say, I wrote up an NPOV paragraph in the doDH namespace ... all they could do is add stuff to the POV section. Or edit the NPOV, of course, but not actually delete the page itself once created. Even thought it's THEIR group... Am I getting this right? Oh.. and while recreating a deleted page ''is'' vandalism, I didn't think it was vandalism to copy a deleted page into your personal namespace or group's space ... Am I wrong? These may seem like dumb questions, but I am certain there are many others thinking the same thing... So it's good to make this perfectly clear. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 18:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Pretty much yes. Anyone can edit the NPOV section but it needs to be kept neutral. As for recreating deleted pages, it's not vandalism, what that rule means is that purposely doing it in bad faith, specifically to force repetitive deletions, is vandalism, recreating the page because you don't know better or to provide Neutral and verifiable information is not. Remember we don't assume bad faith.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::And why exactly am I not allowed to change the NPOV section, is my POV not as N as the DHPD'S NPOV with "their ability to communicate makes them an incredibly sweet, well oiled, and highly lubricated zombie-killing machine." I think I can be THAT neutral. It is quite blatant that other groups change their NPOV to fit what they want, why should we not? I fail to see how we are less neutral on our page as they are on theirs. 19:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[[User:The Dead|The Dead]]
::::::::::I have not read their page, nor is it my job in anyway to police page NPOV sections, that's something generally delegated to [[A/A|Arbitration]], feel free to start a case there if you wish.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Order of events:1.Group makes page about another group, with allegations of multying which are STILL in the page 2.)The Dead changes the page as the group sees it as work around to the deletion of other pages 3.)Page is locked, POV of DHPD maintained 4.) You tell me I am not allowed to change NPOV of pages pertaining to my group 5.) Me giving example of how group shows own POV in NPOV 6.)You saying its not your job to check NPOV...
From what I've gathered ALL GROUPS have control of their ENTIRE page, why the exception for DoDH? 20:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[[User:The Dead|The Dead]]

All this stuff about the NPOV section notwithstanding -- this is new to me, but what do I know -- your group has control of your group's page. Your group has no control over another group or user's page that talks about your group. Anyone can talk about your group on their pages. If you feel the page in question is libelling you, then you could take them to Arbitration, I suppose. But you can't edit another person or group's page, not matter how insulting or annoying you consider it ... just like they can't edit yours. It's fucking simple, even an idiot like me understands it, sheeesh. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 22:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Gengen|Gengen]]===
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Appears to be griefing and making exclusively bad faith edits. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[DHPD]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 06:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:He's already been warned for the early vandalism, and [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Dunell_Hills&diff=prev&oldid=1038651 this] from after the last warning is treading a very fine line. [[A/A|Arbies]] is the place to work out such issues though <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:13 24 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:That is a laugh coming from you, Desk Sgt.  Or is it okay to simply ignore the policies and procedures of the wiki when it suits your own agenda?  Also, I am still waiting on that tl;dr.  --[[User:John Fraker|John Fraker]] 17:08, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:XxCannon FodderxX|XxCannon FodderxX]]===
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[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User%3AXxPale_HorsexX&diff=1038563&oldid=1016516 Blanked] the [[User:XxPale HorsexX|user page]] of another user. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 03:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:They're [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AXxPale_HorsexX&diff=834723&oldid=834587 alt accounts of the same person], so '''not vandalism''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:00 24 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:Ioncannon11|Ioncannon11]]===
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[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Northern_Regiment/Black_List&diff=prev&oldid=1033273 Vandalised] a group page without being a member of that group. Multiple warnings already given. -- [[User:Iscariot|Iscariot]] 01:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
:Third strike equals a '''24hr ban''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 05:09 23 February 2008 (BST)</small>

==={{Usr|Officer Lirette}}===
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He completely [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Yagoton&diff=1036735&oldid=1036363 screwed] up the Yagoton suburb page. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:73 fixed the page.  No need for a revert. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::I'm just going to point him in the direction of project mentor and the help pages. Looks like a newbie mistake. THese things are eisily made and usualy made worse as the person digs themselves in deeper trying to fix it.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 20:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Ah, right.  I've completely forgotten I've left a WN template on his talk some days ago... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah. It looks that way. He's made quite a few contributions on the suburb pages so it's possible he thought he'd done something wrong, tried to fix it, broke it more, panicked and legged it. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I would like to add that this has been going on for a good week or so, nearly giving me an eyesore in the process of constantly fixing it over and over and over again. However, I will vouch for Officer Lirette doing so under "good faith". Hopefully this madness will end. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 01:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
:It looks like newbie problems, as expressed above, so it's not vandalism.  --<small><span style="font-family:Script MT Bold;border:1px solid #000000;">[[User:Zombie slay3r|<span style="background:#ffffff;color:#0000fa;padding:0 4px">Z. slay3r</span>]][[User talk:Zombie slay3r|<span style="background:#0000fa;padding:0 4px;color:#ffffff;">T</span>]]</span></small> 18:59, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Skypants|Skypants]]===
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[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Pumpkin_Pedophiles&diff=1034735&oldid=1018223 Twice] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Pumpkin_Pedophiles&diff=1035899&oldid=1035308 vandalised] the group page of the [[Pumpkin_Pedophiles]]. Noticed it on the recent changes page. Had some earlier edits that could be considered constructive, but nothing recent -- [[User:Iscariot|Iscariot]] 02:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:Warned <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 07:12 22 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:Doctordeath99]]===
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[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suburb&curid=1089&diff=1035816&oldid=1035782 Blanking suburb page] --[[User:Druuuuu|Druuuuu]] <sup style="font-size:70%">[[User:Druuuuu/Ocular|Oc]][[User talk:Druuuuu|T]][[Red Rum|RR]]</sup> 00:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:Warned <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 07:12 22 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:TerminalFailure]]===
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[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASaromu&diff=1035541&oldid=1030477 Vandalized] My page again after was told not to and made a case against him, see below. So far no sysop has acted on it. He claims I was told before to remove it but instead was told the person it was aimed at could remove it. TerminalFailure is not the person, he should fuck off my talk page but hasn't. He will continue to vandalize. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[DORIS]] [[Caiger Resistance Front|CRF]] [[Militant Order of Barhah|MOB]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 21:16, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Go to hell, you foul hypocrite.
"I can't see any bad faith in not wanting someone to be insulted. "
"No. You can edit other user headers when such header was created with the clear purpose to offend you and trick you into commiting vandalism. I no longer will warn people for falling in such cases of troll-baiting. "
The title was clearly intended to provoke and as such changes are justified.
[[User:TerminalFailure|TerminalFailure]] 19:16 21, Febuary 2008 (EST)
:Then again, that was Haggie that said that. It's not a definite rule for all Sysops to follow, so it's up to others to decide. Let it alone for now, I'm telling you to help you. Wait for another Sysop to rule in, and see. Until then, please don't change it. That way if it is considered vandalism, the ruling won't be nearly as bad.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 00:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::Listen to SA. If you keep changing his talk page then he just builds up more and more evidence against you. Keep a cool head and wait for the Sysops to weigh in. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Saromu can make whatever header he wants on his talk page. If you do not agree with, talk with the user and if that fails, take it to A/A, which both you and Saromu has not done. If you continuously revert Saromus edits it will be vandalism, as it is ''his'' page and not yours (with the exception of impersonation, Saromu can do pretty much whatever he wants on his talk pages, sub pages and main user page). --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:Agree. Talk with the user, go to [[A/A]] over it, create a voodoo doll for him... but if you change that header again it will be vandalism. If anyone has a right to change that header, is saromu and the user he is insulting, and no one else. As that might be not understood from my previous statement, i am explaining it now. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 14:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Tomer|Tomer]]===
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[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Stickling_Mall&diff=prev&oldid=1033877 Impersonation.] --{{User:The Surgeon General/sig}} 01:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Warned''' --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 02:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Airheadoh|Airheadoh]]===
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Posting NPOV crap on the Joachim wiki

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User%3ADangerReport%2FJoachim_Mall&diff=1030094&oldid=1028009

And doing it again even after I tried making it more NPOV and consistent with reality.

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User%3ADangerReport%2FJoachim_Mall&diff=1032603&oldid=1030100

After I corrected his horribly biased description on the mall He reverts it and mentiones me directly on the description of the mall instead of keeping it to the talk page. Trenchie Idiots like these don't belong on the wiki. Jeez, apparently this moron thinks that a horde of nearly 300 moving away from a ransacked mall to another mall classifies as a defeat on the zombie groups behalf. [[User:The man|The man]] 19:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Not''' - It'd be better if you talked with the user before taking him to A/VB. He might not know about NPOV rules. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 19:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
::Nah, i can't be bothered with this, I'm not as active around here as I used to be so I say let the FUers deal with this matter. Its back to Audiosurf for me. Cheers. [[User:The man|The man]] 19:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Happykook|Happykook]]===
{{vndl|Happykook}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Warehouse_84%2C40&diff=1033568&oldid=1033312 Wiped a location page], and after linking all neighboring buildings to his [[Warehouse 84,40 Happykooks House|own private location page]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 14:28 20 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:Warned --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 15:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:BillOhara|BillOhara]]===
{{vndl|BillOhara}}

Removed the suburb map from Spicer Hills: [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Spicer_Hills&diff=prev&oldid=1032826]. Only edit so far. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 22:10, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Warned''' - although it could just be a newbie mistake, it's a worry that it's his only edit to the wiki <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 14:14 20 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:Novascotia|Novascotia]]===
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As a matter of fact, Novascotia's IP comes back as being used by, apart from the [[#Xynbc|vandal alt I banned the other day]], [[User:Zinker|Zinker]] and [[User:Rrnman|Rrnman]] as well. Given the amazing similarity in their n00bishness, it seems quite likely that they are one in the same, using multiple accounts to maximise the annoyance, like the case below <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:27 19 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:So, I'd like some other sysop input. Karek seems to have confirmed it, but it's been moved to the [[UDWiki talk:{{PAGENAME}}#Novascotia|talk page]]. I suggest that their [[A/VD|vandal data]] be combined, and they be linked on A/VD <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 14:08 20 February 2008 (BST)</small>
::There is [[User_talk:Rrnman#Noobzorez|enough]] evidence all around the wiki in my opinion. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 19:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, all vandal data now points to [[User:Zinker|Zinker]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 20:42 21 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:Zinker|Zinker]]===
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Spamming many users pages with [[Template:noobzored|this template]]. I couldn't assume it as good faith so I brought it here for other people too overview it.--[[User:Novascotia|Novascotia]] 22:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:I don't seem him doing it in his contribs, links please.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:Are you deliberately trying to be annoying, Novascotia? He put that template on your page, and you even congratulated him on it and told him to [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANovascotia&diff=966234&oldid=965627 give it to many make it known]. As to [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3APseudopseudo&diff=1031398&oldid=1027366 this warning] you gave some poor guy, why don't you pull your head in. People don't get read the riot act for not previewing when they're new, it's good wiki-etiquette to not make heaps of minor edits to the one page, but it's understandable. Pull your head in or you're going to be the one brought here <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:19 19 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:Ioncannon11|Ioncannon11]]===
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Trying, and failing miserably, to redirect a [[Test]] page to Meatspin.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 23:16, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:Not quite sure how failing to make a redirect is vandalism. Or am I missing something? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::Meatspin is where a link on a page on the internet takes you to, well, quite a disturbing pornographic page..... If you haven't encountered it from idiots emailing you the link, well then you're lucky.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 23:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:''Moved chatter to talk. Do not engage in such banter here again, or there will be consequences.'' --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 00:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, now i have time to rule on this. When considering a case like this, what is most important is intent. The fact that there is contention between the dickwaving "hardcore toughguys" and the whining "oversensitive weaklings" is completely irrelevant (See talk page for such contention). In this case we have to ask ourselves: Was this an edit made in good faith to improve the wiki? In this case i am sad to say, after weighing the evidence, that it was not. It was instead an attempt to mine a page of this wiki to trap users and send them to a shock site, clearly a bad faith edit. That has been its use elsewhere, and that was the intent of posting it here. As such, it falls under the definition of vandalism in [[UDwiki:Vandalism]] and as a result i am issuing this user his second warning. For those who like bolded words to denote the result of cases: '''Warned'''. The page will be submitted to [[A/SD]] shortly. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 10:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:TerminalFailure|TerminalFailure]]===
{{vndl|TerminalFailure}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASaromu&diff=1017488&oldid=1017126 Vandalism] that went unnoticed until now. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[DORIS]] [[Caiger Resistance Front|CRF]] [[Militant Order of Barhah|MOB]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 07:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:He wording was ''Fixing some garbage you wrote just to insult the user. Come on, do you have nothing to do other than piss people off?'' which seems acceptable. Have you told him not to change the title, and has he changed it more than one time? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::This is the second time someone changed it and was considered not vandalism the first time because it was used as an attack on that person. But TerminalFailure decided then to change it back. TF should be charged with vandalism for changing it after I reverted the first time. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[DORIS]] [[Caiger Resistance Front|CRF]] [[Militant Order of Barhah|MOB]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 23:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::"Someone" meaning not Terminal? This might be better for [[A/A]], I can't see any bad faith in not wanting someone to be insulted. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 19:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Saromu, you give hypocrites a bad name. You didn't even bring it up before this, and I believe you have been told to change it before. Indeed, I might be justified in bringing you to Vandal Banning for changing it back.
The evidence, a page or two below from Velo2's case:
"No. You can edit other user headers when such header was created with the clear purpose to offend you and trick you into commiting vandalism. I no longer will warn people for falling in such cases of troll-baiting. "
Saromu, if you're going to be an idiot, at least remove the evidence!
[[User:TerminalFailure|TerminalFailure]] 16:06 21, Febuary 2008 (EST)

===[[User:Rydenjesse|Rydenjesse]]===
{{vndl|Rydenjesse}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template:Wiki_News&curid=50234&diff=1029003&oldid=1028997 Newbie mistake?] Template:Wiki News was floating around recent changes. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:It probably was a newbie messup. I'd say just send him a note, explaining everything. I'd say that, but seeing as how that'd be "backseat sysoping" I'm just gonna sit here and be quiet, and not give my opinion. No siree. Definitely not giving my opinion. :D --{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 01:21, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, probably. Usually 73 goes around people's talk pages doing that kind of stuff, but he isn't around. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Which means you should then.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 01:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, sure... I'll drop this. And by you meaning that I should, I shan't.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 05:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Lazy bum.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 05:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Maybe, what's stopping you? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 05:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
# Do I look like the kind of person who helps every single newb he comes across?
# Do I look like the person who feels like helping out some fool, especially when I'm tired as fuck?
# You're the one with the neat help page. You do it.
--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 05:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:Robots (and mudkipz) are threatening our children (and us). We wouldn't survive if I spent more than a second doing that 73 thing. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 05:21, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::Goddmanit 73, where are you when we need you? --{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 05:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm here. 'Sup? Oh, I see. I'll go point the newbie the right way.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 23:20, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::'Bout damn time. Had to wait almost 18 hours! :) --{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 23:21, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::sorry. Been drinkin' Someone should go over to the guy's talkpage and check the spelling. Not my strong suit at the best of times!--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 23:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yay, laziness. Want me to spell-check it? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Would ya? :) (the links work...)--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 23:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Stealth Assassin|Stealth Assassin]]===
{{vndl|Stealth Assassin}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Scour_the_Earth&diff=1027187&oldid=1022069 Group page vandalism] --[[User:Druuuuu|Druuuuu]] <sup style="font-size:70%">[[User:Druuuuu/Ocular|Oc]][[User talk:Druuuuu|T]][[Red Rum|RR]]</sup> 23:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Warned''' --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Xynbc|Xynbc]]===
{{vndl|Xynbc}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template:DangerMap&curid=15569&diff=1027503&oldid=1018774 edit to DangerMap]--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template%3ASpecialDanger&diff=1027511&oldid=402084 edit to template:special danger]

Another one--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 22:12, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
:Checkuser indicates a vandal alt. '''Permbanned''' and the main warned <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:41 16 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:Avatar Aang|Avatar Aang]]===
{{vndl|Avatar Aang}}

This [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:The_Necrobot&curid=46831&diff=1027198&oldid=914213 edit] to another user's page.  --<small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;background:#ffffff;padding:1px;">[[User:Zombie slay3r|<b><span style="color:#0000cd;">Z. slay3r</span></b>]] • [[User_talk:Zombie slay3r|<span style="background-color:#0000fa;color:#ffffff">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 18:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Warned''' --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Bar27262|Bar27262]]===
{{vndl|Bar27262}}

More straight fwd then the Karek case, [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Public_Pools_With_AIDS_Agency&diff=1025416&oldid=597900 check.]. I think theres more i'm about to check that out now.--[[User:J3D|J3D]] 08:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:Warned.  --<small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;background:#ffffff;padding:1px;">[[User:Zombie slay3r|<b><span style="color:#0000cd;">Z. slay3r</span></b>]] • [[User_talk:Zombie slay3r|<span style="background-color:#0000fa;color:#ffffff">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 21:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Karek|Karek]]===
{{vndl|Karek}}

For incorrectly removing a suggestion from voting as a "Multi" when it was clearly a "Revision", under [[:Category:Current_Suggestions#Advice_before_Making_a_Suggestion|Rule 9]].

Sequence of events:
*[[User:Hhal|Hhal]] made the suggestion [[Suggestion:20080210_Number_Groups|Number Groups]], which, as you can see, I removed (using the <nowiki>{{Edited}}</nowiki> template), because it was edited during voting, after votes had been cast.  In doing so, I was following [[Suggestions:Cycling_Instructions#Edited_Suggestions|these rules on removing an edited suggestion]].  (There is dispensation for leaving alone suggestions with '''Notes''', but his edits were headed as '''edits''', and many voters don't return to reconsider, so I followed clear precedent in a good faith attempt to allow the suggestion the proper consideration by all voters.)
*[[User:Hhal|Hhal]] correctly resubmitted the suggestion as [[Suggestion:20080210_Number_Groups_v2|Number Groups v2]].  As this is different from the original, prior to the commencement of voting on the original, and called "v2", it is clearly a revison, which is allowed under [[:Category:Current_Suggestions#Advice_before_Making_a_Suggestion|Rule 9]].  
*[[User:Karek|Karek]] then removed [[Suggestion:20080210_Number_Groups_v2|Number Groups v2]] as a "multi", as can be seen from the template.
*Because it was, by this time, after midnight, and, as stated clearly in  [[:Category:Current_Suggestions#Advice_before_Making_a_Suggestion|Rule 9]], one suggestion is allowed per calendar day (as opposed to 24 hours from the last) [[User:Hhal|Hhal]] resubmitted the suggestion as [[Suggestion:20080211_Number_Groups_v2.1|Number Groups v2.1]].
*[[User:Karek|Karek]] used his vote to call [[User:Hhal|Hhal]] a "[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion%3A20080211_Number_Groups_v2.1&diff=1020963&oldid=1020959 whining cunt]".

This was bad faith because:
*The rules are not clear on what to do with a suggestion that has been pulled due to alteration during the initial vote, but the spirit of the rules are clear: one suggestion, per author, per day, with one revision allowed.  Karek went against the obvious spirit of the rules, as given here in [[:Category:Current_Suggestions#Advice_before_Making_a_Suggestion|Rule 9]]. 
*It was clear that the suggestion would have to be resubmitted (a third time), thus wasting the time of all the voters involved (as they were, by now, voting on approximately the same suggestion for the third time in a single 24-hour period), and also generating antagonism towards the author.
*[[User:Karek|Karek]]'s attitude towards the author, and his actions, are those of someone desiring to do harm, and not good, for this wiki.

--<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 17:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I did call Hhal a whining cunt, after all the grap from you and him on the talk page of Number Groups v2.1 and his vote on the suggestion, I even linked it so people could see why I did that. That doesn't make what I did vandalism, it ''might'' make my vote strikeable by a sysop but that's all. My "attitude" towards the author came after the fact as anyone, but you, can see. The only reason this ''is'' bad faith is because you want it to be.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:It should probably also be mentioned that the Multi rule exists ''exactly'' for what it was used for, both in spirit and writing.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
::Is that a joke?  The multi rule is to stop multiple suggestions from the same author on the same day.  It clearly allows for a single revision to be made.  Read [[:Category:Current_Suggestions#Advice_before_Making_a_Suggestion|Rule 9]].  It's plain as day what the intent of the rule is. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 18:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the intent is to prevent users repeatedly resuggesting things that were removed by the suggestions removal rules in the same day to the purpose of preventing spamming of the system. I.e. Not allow people to resubmit things removed for any reason ''other than'' submission. It make that quite clear.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 18:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
::::The rule ''explicitly'' allows for a single revision.  It does not ''explicitly'' state that an edit-removal may not be resubmitted.  And common sense dictates that an edit-removal invites a revised suggestion. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 18:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Mmm, this one is a toughie. On one hand, in the manor in which the first suggestion was removed, the second can be considered a multi as rule 9 states "''This limit does not include suggestions which the '''author''' has removed for the purpose of revision."'' It was removed by someone other than the author, so Karek was right in removing the second. The thing is, the second suggestion that Hhal submitted, was done like a revision, which from what I can tell, is an improved version of the first. I can't quite see any bad faith on Karek's part, it seems like he got annoyed after the incident.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:Then, I ask you: what was the positive, good faith reason for removing it?  What benefit was there to that action?  I can see the negative outcome (forcing multiple contributers to re-cast their votes), but I can't see any positive outcome.  Also, Karek was not annoyed only ''after'' the incident: read his vote prior to his removal of the suggestion, where he says "[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion%3A20080210_Number_Groups_v2&diff=1020738&oldid=1020716 Don't resuggest things multiple times simply to get rid of all the votes against]."  There, he's bringing [[User:Hhal|Hhal]]s character and motives into question without bothering to check the facts first, or to give him the benefit of the doubt. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 18:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
::My vote is worded like that because the only legitimate reason for his old suggestion to have been removed was by him removing it. You incorrectly removed his suggestion, something I didn't know until well after I voted, as can be seen on the removed suggestions talk page. --<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 18:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
::Here it is cause I have little doubt you purposely left it out to strengthen your argument of justifying assuming bad faith. [[Suggestion_talk:20080210_Number_Groups]].--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 18:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I've made my case - there's little point in having a long, drawn-out argument with you that won't go anywhere. It's up to a sysop to make a ruling. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 18:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, I can't reach a decision. Anyone else want to take a stab at this? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Not vandalism''' - it's an edit conflict. I don't believe that the second suggestion should have been removed, but that doesn't make it bad faith <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 23:29 11 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:Comrade 47|Comrade 47]]===
{{vndl|Comrade_47}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Columbine_Kids&curid=59403&diff=1021521&oldid=1008892 laffo] &ndash; [[User:Nubis|Nubis]] 16:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Columbine_Kids&curid=59403&diff=1021529&oldid=1021523 yawn] &ndash; [[User:Nubis|Nubis]] 16:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
::[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Columbine_Kids&curid=59403&diff=1021533&oldid=1021530 How creative].  Temporarily banned for one day to prevent further edits. &ndash; [[User:Nubis|Nubis]] 16:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
'''Warned''' - and he can keep the day ban to let him calm down a bit, given that he didn't give any indication of stopping <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 23:24 11 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:Nubis|Nubis]]===
{{vndl|Nubis}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User%3ANubis&diff=906925&oldid=892733 This] edit to the main userpage, specifically the categorization. Due to the length of time, I ask at a minimum for the DHPD category to be removed. --{{User:The Surgeon General/sig}} 01:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:He was already warned for that. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
::Aye, [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANubis&diff=940264&oldid=921868 he was], as when he had changed the page title it was deemed impersonation. I've removed the category tag though.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:24, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:::And that's all I desire. Thanks. --{{User:The Surgeon General/sig}} 01:54, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Editer|Editer]]===
{{vndl|Editer}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template:Wiki_News&oldid=1019709 Vandalized] the news section of the UD main page. --[[User:Aeon17x|Aeon17x]] 03:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:Hahahaha this is we I use a wiki, because I can revert your edits in a single click and ban you from my ipod. '''Warned''' --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Blanemcc|Blanemcc]]===
{{vndl|Blanemcc}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Creedy_Guerilla_Raiders&curid=10144&diff=1018710&oldid=1018122 Edited] a group page without permission or membership of that group. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 14:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Warned''' --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 15:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Children|Children]]===
{{vndl|Children}}

Alt again of that guy.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 12:32, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Permban''' v3 <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:47 9 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:The report|The report]]===
{{vndl|The report}}

Blatant alt of GROKER. See below. -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 12:19, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Permban''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:20 9 February 2008 (BST)</small>

===[[User:GROKER|GROKER]]===
{{vndl|GROKER}}

Broke the DangerMap template --> [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template:DangerMap&oldid=1018772]

And also vandalised FAQ --> [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions&oldid=1018759]

-- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 11:13, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, jerkwad! I was about to put myself on this list, but you screwed that up for me. Oh well. I find that the time for nine is a fine time for twine. --[[User:GROKER|GROKER]]
:You were going to report yourself? O_o Dude wtf? -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 11:17, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, I was, before you RUDELY interrupted. Also, put the links first in your templates. It did look broken. Oh, and it's "What the Fuck" Swear like a man. --[[User:GROKER|GROKER]]
:::Why would you want to report yourself for Vandalism? You're just going to get banned. Edjit. -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 11:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Think I care about getting banned? No, dummy. --[[User:GROKER|GROKER]]
:::::Then the question stands as to why you joined in the first place, doesn't it? Considering that the vandalism would be reverted anyway. -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 11:34, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::You see, I'm bored. That's the long and short of it. I thought that would be obvious to you. --[[User:GROKER|GROKER]]
:::::::Fair enough...but that means that if you want to come back as a useful editor (doubt it, but you never know), you can't. -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 11:39, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, why is there an "m" in "Grimch?" It sounds like a moldy sandwhich.--[[User:GROKER|GROKER]]
::Also also, your FAQ isn't really a FAQ. It's a talk page. That's annoying, so please stop misnaming stuff. --[[User:GROKER|GROKER]]

'''Permabanned'''. Entire purpose of his visit was to vandalise and pick fights with active users (Aka: Troll). More than three edits, several vandalism, and nothing even remotely contributive = out the door. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 11:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Nice timing Grim. :P -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 11:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::I know. --[[User:GROKER|GROKER]]
:::Oh look...its a GROKER alt. Banz it!! Banz it goodz!!! -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 12:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Woo! Yeah! C'mon! (Oh, and was I picking fights? Didn't mean to.) --[[User:GROKER|GROKER]]
:::::Methinks you are needing an IP ban. Stop you making more mini GROKERs. -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 12:16, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Don't feed him please <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:20 9 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:::::::Just to clear a few things up: If I ever wanted to contribute anything (although I can't for the life of me imagine what), I'm moving soon, new IP, yadda yadda. Second: I'm guessing Grimch is a mixture of grimace and Grinch. Thirdly: There's a makeup infomercial on right now, and the winds are up to 60 mph out side. Fourthly: Mr. or Mrs. Box is right, you shouldn't feed me. --[[User:GROKER|GROKER]]

===[[User:ChupaCalvin|ChupaCalvin]]===
{{vndl|ChupaCalvin}}

A [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Scour_the_Earth&curid=76791&diff=1018398&oldid=1017415 degrading edit] to an upstanding, independent bounty hunter group page. --{{User:The Surgeon General/sig}} 03:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Warned''' --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 03:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Xela798|Xela798]]===
{{vndl|Xela798}}

He's still annoyingly uploading images with huge ass file names for no reason, despite me mentioning it to him a while ago. The thing is, the images aren't even being used. There are no pages linking to them whatsoever. I think we need a Sysop intervention on this one. Here's a few examples: [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:0000008602_20060920153912.jpg], [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:0O43CADFF0GTCA8MIJBBCA60N3YACA3XCSJKCAHS5YVXCALQ9O7NCAE9MYVFCANA6Z0ACAVOYJOHCAKPACMLCAR0S4PRCAIWPT41CARGZ23TCA92OC88CA338MTYCAB7EEUSCAJFGLUDCAWSL51KCA1Q5XHV.jpg].  -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 17:18, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

On top of this he is making pointless group pages, which are a load of rubbish and all say the same thing but with a different title. [[Sinclair Hotels]] is the main one but it's now spawned the whole ton of rubbish in [[Special:Contributions/Xela798|here]]. [[Sinclair Power and Electricity]], [[The Government of Sinclair]], [[The Sinclair Police Department]], [[The Sinclair Family]], [[The Latell Firm]], [[Sinclair Pharmaceutical]], [[Altash Protection Agency]], [[Sinclair Manufacturing]] and  [[Westward Financial]]. Basically, he's taken the contents of the Hotels page and copied it into every single one of them. -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 19:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

:'''Not vandalism''' - just put his pages (except the original) up for deletion, and try to explain why on his talk page (if he even reads it) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 03:09 8 February 2008 (BST)</small>
::Ok. It's done. I've left a note on her(?) talk page if she(?) wants to contest it. -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 13:27, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Velo2|Velo2]]===
{{vndl|Velo2}}

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AVelo2&diff=1015187&oldid=1013923 Impersonation.] Altered my signature which is a no no under impersonation rules. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[DORIS]] [[Caiger Resistance Front|CRF]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 22:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
:Actually i think this is rather non-punishable, as he removed your comment and pasted it back afterwards. He prolly selected your formated text and pasted it back in his talk page. A simple newbie mistake. NOw, clearing your user page, that is something he can be punished for '''Vandalism''', and for that i issue him a warning. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 23:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User%3ASaromu&diff=1015170&oldid=993081 FYI] <small>--<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 16:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)</small>
:Exactly. Thank you. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 16:52, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASaromu&diff=1016444&oldid=1015282 Changing] the sections of my talk page. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[DORIS]] [[Caiger Resistance Front|CRF]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 21:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry sonny, but '''Not Vandalism'''. You moved his comments to a silly header, and invited to edit that particular section of your user page. Of course he would get offended and change it. Troll-bait tactics shouldn't earn those who take the bait a warning for trying to defend themselves. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 21:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
::So does that mean I can go to another user's talk page and change with their TOL's sections? --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[DORIS]] [[Caiger Resistance Front|CRF]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 22:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
:::No. You can edit other user headers when such header was created with the clear purpose to offend you and trick you into commiting vandalism. I no longer will warn people for falling in such cases of troll-baiting. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 03:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Depends on the header, depends on if anyone has commented on it, etc. It's a case by case thing.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 16:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Karek|Karek]]===
{{vndl|Karek}}

Not so much as vandal report, as an official request for clarification. I was perusing the spamtastic suggestion [[Suggestion:20080206_Rapid_Fire_Weapons|Rapid Fire Weapons]] when I saw [[User:TerminalFailure|Terminal Failure]]'s vote was incorrectly formatted. As per the rules box right next to his vote I was about to strike it when Karek fixed it. Would this be imperonation or legal? Is the responsibility of voters to format their vote or can anyone fix errors? [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion%3A20080206_Rapid_Fire_Weapons&diff=1014599&oldid=1014587 Changes in question]. {{Unsigned|Iscariot}}
:Yes. All he added was the #. The "whining hypocrite" comment was added in the obscured revision between the diff you showed by terminalfailure himself. The only reason i can think of for using those two as the comparison would be to try and get a sysop to warn karek for impersonation on what was added in the intervening diff. Be much more careful in future, and please do not hide revisions in your diff comparisons when you come here. Here is the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion%3A20080206_Rapid_Fire_Weapons&diff=1014599&oldid=1014589 true diff comparison], for other sysops who want to check. '''Not Vandalism''' --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 16:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
:Also, sign your posts. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 16:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
::My apologies for the inaccurate reporting of the changes. It was never my intent to try and represent that Karek had added the "whining hypocrite" comment. I was only adding the original vote by Terminal Failure and subsequent change by Karek. -- [[User:Iscariot|Iscariot]] 21:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

===[[User:Ron Burgundy|Ron Burgundy]]===
{{vndl|Ron Burgundy}}

[[Suggestion:20080206 Politics in Malton- A fantastic suggestion by a so-so wikizen!|Humorous suggestion]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:16 6 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:'''Warned''' --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 13:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

==={{Usr|Ioncannon11}}===
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[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Second_Big_Bash&curid=65176&diff=1013479&oldid=1013065 This] edit, wiping the BB2 page.--{{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 21:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:'''Warned''' --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

==={{usr|Lasantadevita}}===
{{vndl|Lasantadevita}}

for wiping group pages
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Leighton_Kru&diff=1011791&oldid=951569 here]
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Creedy_Guerilla_Raiders&diff=1011794&oldid=1007400 here]
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Philosophe_Knights&diff=1011796&oldid=973965 also here]
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_PKer_Alliance&diff=1011802&oldid=1010984 and here]--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 06:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Appears to be an alt of [[User:Hardcore Rockabilly]]. Lasantadevita premabanned and [[User:Hardcore Rockabilly]] warned - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 07:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

==={{usr|Finis Valorum}}===
{{vndl|Finis Valorum}}

He's at his suburb owning thing again. [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Santlerville&oldid=1008746 This] was posted by a member of [[User:J3D|Jed's]] group to inform the residents of possible impersonation. However Finis reverted this citing "non-notable and confusing news. moving to talk page". What then followed was the Dribbling Beaver attempting to replace his news while Finis continued to remove it. [[User:Suicidalangel|S.A.]] stepped in and reverted it, Finis again reverted it back. At the moment it stands as an edited version posted by [[User:Saromu|Sonny]]. [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Santlerville&diff=1009887&oldid=1008746] It can also be argued that this in in breech of part of the arbitration ruling: "neither of you is to contact the other, insult the other, or in any way try and stir up any kind of grief for one month to give each of you time to get over this and grow up a bit." As this is Jed's group, it could be seen as an attempt to rile him up and cause more drama. -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 00:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:Looks like group specific information that should be placed on the Dribbling beavers page, it's not Suburb worthy material. They could put it on the suburb talk page if necessary. As to him trying to stir J3d up by annoying his mates, [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFinis_Valorum&diff=1009230&oldid=1008879 please]. If you wanted this sort of stuff covered by your arby ruling, you should have said so at the time <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 00:14 3 February 2008 (BST)</small>
::What involvement do I have with J3D other than disliking Finis?--[[User:Sexylegsread|MichaelRead]] 00:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:::You were both in the [[BBK]]s, a group that ended up being pretty much a "get finis" club by the end. You've been tag teaming him since you got here <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 00:26 3 February 2008 (BST)</small>
::::Yeah, we both don't like Finis. But what do read's remarks have to do with this case? --[[User:J3D|Jed]] 00:28, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Although I do agree that Finis likes to be tag-teamed by guys, I disagree with your statement. If you read our open letter to Finis, we became a "ignore the sod" group. Jed and I live in different states. We have very limited contact, so this link to something I have done, is pretty much irrelevant to the post that Krazy Monkey made. I insulted Finis for my own benefit. Nobody elses.--[[User:Sexylegsread|MichaelRead]] 00:30, 3 February 2008 (UTC) 
:::::Oh and to contribute something useful, I think that it is valuable information to post a link to a list of imposter's and impersonators. There was no mention of Finis, or anyone. The revert history obviously shows that more than enough people think that it is relevant information.--[[User:Sexylegsread|MichaelRead]] 00:34, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's an issue for arbies, not here <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 01:23 3 February 2008 (BST)</small>
'''Not vandalism''' - Cheeseman made a ruling on a dispute between Finis and Jed, not between Finis, Jed, and all Jed's friends and acquaintances. This isn't a violation of the arby ruling, it's a POV edit conflict on a totally different suburb page, with a different person <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 01:23 3 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:I'm not sure how this sort of thing works, but would there be any chance of getting a second opinion on that? --[[User:J3D|Jed]] 01:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:I feel it needs a second opinion because i believe (evidentally as does Cheeseman)  that Finis's actions breach "or in any way try and stir up any kind of grief for one month". Clearly deleting posts of a group member of mine in the suburb i am most active in is "stir(ing) up any kind of grief". So, any sysops out there?--[[User:J3D|Jed]] 06:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::I'll leave the issue in stand by till things clear up but this has nothing to do with me and J3D whatsoever.--[[User:Finis Valorum|Finis Valorum]]
'''Not vandalism''' Editing disputes are not the same thing as vandalism. This is a dispute happened on a different suburb with different people so it is not a violate of the arbies ruling. A user felt that the content lacked a NPOV and removed it. Then when it was reverted he removed it again and placed it on the talkpage were others could add their opinion and decide to keep it or not. The choice of section headers could have been a little less confrontational but it is still not a case of vandalism so I agree with boxy's ruling. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 11:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
:fair enough. thanks for your time. I just wanted to hear that from another sysop as boxy was a little too involved in the me vee finis thing.--[[User:J3D|Jed]] 06:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

==={{usr|Desert AIP}}===
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All of this guy's contribs seem to be vandlism against me.  I know who it is, as I killed him for being a zerger in the game.--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 22:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
:Permabanned as an account only created to vandalize AnimeSucks' userpages, with 7 edits, and all of them vandalism. --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius187]] 23:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

==={{Usr|VI}}===
{{vndl|VI}}

Created 2 suggestions on the same day.  [[Suggestion:20080201 New Building: Playhouse/Theatre|This]] and [[Suggestion:20080201 Binoculars from fort armouries|this]].  Isn't there a rule or something about only 1 suggestion a day? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)  I checked.  It's rule 9. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
:It's not vandalism, but it is bad form.  I'll remove it from the active suggestions and leave him a note.  --<small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;background:#ffffff;padding:1px;">[[User:Zombie slay3r|<b><span style="color:#0000cd;">Z. slay3r</span></b>]] • [[User_talk:Zombie slay3r|<span style="background-color:#0000fa;color:#ffffff">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 20:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
::Huh...In the past, users have gotten warnings for it... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Really?  If you could point out where, I'd like to look them over to possibly reconsider my decision.  --<small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;background:#ffffff;padding:1px;">[[User:Zombie slay3r|<b><span style="color:#0000cd;">Z. slay3r</span></b>]] • [[User_talk:Zombie slay3r|<span style="background-color:#0000fa;color:#ffffff">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 21:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
::::It was shortly after that rule was passed.  That was like 2 years ago. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:09, 1 February 2008 (UTC) I could probably find it if I knew what the hell happened to all the 2006 reports.  Those reports were in there somewhere... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::We only started archiving (in any organised way) in 2007 <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 23:28 1 February 2008 (BST)</small>
:::I think you'll find that a warning would only have been given if the person putting up multiple suggestions clearly knew that they were breaking the suggestions rules, and that it was annoying people. This guy is new to the suggestions page, give them a break. '''Not vandalism''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 23:27 1 February 2008 (BST)</small>