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=General Discussion=

==Move Requests==
What goes on with this page? Looks like it'd be quicker to just move things ourselves, leaving a redirect on the old page. Didn't we used to be able to move pages ourselves? -- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User_talk:boxy|T]] [[User:Boxy/Locations|L]] [[PA Posse|PA]] [[Dead Animals|DA]]</sup> 10:17, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
:If you would read [[M/G]], you would discover that we still can.--{{User:Gage/sig}} 10:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, you can still move pages, us plebs cant (except the long way). And there're pages been sitting there for 3 weeks with no comment... I even resubmitted on (without realising). Are they ineligble or something? -- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User_talk:boxy|T]] [[User:Boxy/Locations|L]] [[PA Posse|PA]] [[Dead Animals|DA]]</sup> 10:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

== Move Request Template ==

Would it make since to have move requests have a template much like the speedy delete template so that pages aren't marked for movement more than one, because there are several pages that I have almost 
re-requested a move for as well. I've made simple template that could be used for this here: [[Template:Moverequest]], let me know what you think. [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 23:22, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
::I have noticed that this template has one small flaw in it, it must be manually removed after the move is made. Does anyone know away around this? If this issue can be overcome I feel that this template has some potential. [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 07:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes, that is a problem... however what do others think about using that template to make requests without having to edit another page? We could make a Category:Move requests, and include it in the template. Then when someone finds a page they want moved, they can simply add the template, including the destination of the move. The page would show up in [[:Category:Move Requests]] automatically. All a mod would have to do is open the page, and see the info on where it has to be moved to, on the page and click move page. Perhaps the template would need another section to record the reason for the move request, but it would cut down on editing and archiving for a simple function like move requests. The info about the move would all be in the actual page history, rather than somewhere else ([[A/MR]]) -- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User_talk:boxy|T]] [[User:Boxy/Locations|L]] [[Zombie Squad|ZS]] [[Location Nuts|Nuts2U]] [[Dead Animals/Redux|DA]]</sup> 01:31, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::::I like the idea of getting rid of the move request page and replacing it with a Category, I've made some changes to [[Template:Moverequest]] so it does what you mentioned anything else you would want in the template. [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 11:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::That looks good for the purpose. Still not convinced that it's the way to go (despite suggesting it), would like more feedback. Others may see problems I don't. If I don't get feedback here, I'll put up a policy discussion, I guess, and sound it out that way -- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User_talk:boxy|T]] [[User:Boxy/Locations|L]] [[Zombie Squad|ZS]] [[Location Nuts|Nuts2U]] [[Dead Animals/Redux|DA]]</sup> 11:45, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


The template is now simpler.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 14:07, 18 October 2009 (BST)

==Well..==

My archive for old talk was moved, and the thing is I just figured out that fact by pure luck, and found the new location by the long (becouse i had no idea of it) proccess of finding this page. Ok, I'm new and didnt know how to mane the page properly, and is totally correct to move it to a page with the proper name, but shouldnt the person that moved it or the person who asked to be moved leave some coment on my talk page? I understand that it would make it a longer proccess for the mod but maybe a template with a link to this page or someting. I mean, if i hadn't noticed the broken link in my nav bar....--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 08:55, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

== Move Request Archive ==

Like the Speedy Deletions page, the Move Requests page should have an archive, as it is beginning to get too long. Perhaps something like what SD has? {{User:V2Blast/sig}} 23:16, 19 August 2007 (BST)
:Um this page does have an archive [[UDWiki:Moderation/Move Requests/Archive]], every month the Recent Actions section is suppose to be moved to it it just does allways happen. I'll move the stuff that should have been archived already. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 14:20, 20 August 2007 (BST)

== move question ==

Can sysops move categories? *looking innocently* --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 09:38, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:No, it has to be done manually by visiting all the pages, real hassle but I doubt it could be done any other way because of how Categories are sorted anyway(with the tag being content on the page included, not the Category page). But yeah, can't move Categories.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 11:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

==Archival==
It looks to me like archival happens every month. Should we change the guidelines on the page to suit? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 10:37, 28 May 2009 (BST)
:''[[User:Linkthewindow|Linkthewindow]] doesn't have a problem with it 13:12, 28 May 2009 (BST)''
::After a week or two, if all here is good, I'll change it round. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 13:34, 28 May 2009 (BST)

==Merge/Archive==
We can now do these actions with relatively more ease due to an invert selections button so anyone who wants this for any reason(moving actual page histories) feel free to request it. I'm sure [[User:Revenant|Revenant]] or [[User:karek|myself]] would be more than able to figure it out and get it done. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:02, 10 May 2011 (BST)
:Yeah, I've used that here already. Didn't even realise we'd been missing it all these years. *shudder* {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 05:54, 10 May 2011 (BST)
::I found it out the hard way and the current archival system for admin pages was born. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 06:17, 10 May 2011 (BST)
::Oh dear, we've had some bad moments without an invert button : ( -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 06:23, 10 May 2011 (BST)

=Discussion of Requests=
==January 2009==
===Humanity's Saviors===
====1st bit====
:::You really are a fucking idiot. I'm going to say this clearly '''These. Are. Not. A. Subgroup.''' The Order of Philosophe Knights has no active subgroups. That category was overlooked in the recoding, if you hadn't noticed the page is based on the Knight's design. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 18:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Let me get this straight, Iscariot. You would argue that two groups, one ''created by the other'', are somehow less connected (and thus worthy of demotion to a subpage) than an alliance and the groups in it? Interesting logic.--{{User:Labine50/sig}} 19:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'm not arguing with you at all, you're wrong and I'm right, I'm enlightening you. I have two very simple questions for you. Should we move [[MOB]] into [[RRF]]'s space? and Of the two of us, who has access to the Philosophe Knights board and therefore understands what Humanity's Saviours actually are?

:::::The Knights have one subgroup, this isn't it. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 19:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::You say that I cannot understand how the HS and PK work without access to their forums, yet you think you to have a sufficient amount of knowledge in the inner workings of the DEM to both pass judgement on whether we function as one group or not, in the case of the Recruitment page, and that all the DEM groups are really just subgroups of an ''alliance'', in the case of your recent actions on this page.
::::::To answer your question, no, I don't believe the MOB page should be a subgroup of the RRF, though your logic seems to say they should be.--{{User:Labine50/sig}} 20:51, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::If you want the [[DEM]] to be treated as just an alliance, then maybe you shouldn't call it an ''"organizational construct"'' that ''"oversees and coordinates the operations"'' of its member groups and that ''"Member groups are in all senses part of the DEM, fully sharing information and resources with the core groups and are bound by all DEM policies."'' This opposed to what's on [[HS]]'s page: ''"The connection between HS and the Philosophe Knights is fairly weak"'', ''"neither group has command over the other"'' and so on. Is it really so surprising that you're treated the way you describe yourselves? --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 21:18, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::We aren't. Does it say we're a group of survivors anywhere in there? At any point they wish, any member group in the DEM can decide they don't like the DEM Chairperson or rest of the DEM and leave, or whatever. We work together because, believe it or not, teamwork it more effective than everybody having their own agenda.
::::::::On this note, I think I have proved my point, so I'm going to leave this conversation. If you want to continue calling us a single group, go right ahead and do so. It's obvious no amount of evidence to the contrary would change your opinion.--{{User:Labine50/sig}} 18:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

====2nd Bit====
::Given that I checked, and as you no longer hold a seat on the War Council and therefore may not speak for the RRF, and as per every DEM argument below, do we get the GC and BC pages moved back to where they rightfully belong under the DEM's justifications? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 02:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:::No, because you don't know what you're talking about any more than Labine does and you know it. Stop trolling admin pages, and consider ''that'' your only soft warning on this matter.--<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 03:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Soft warning me over a case you're involved in? Regardless, I know less than Labine? Is he a serving member of the Gore Corps? Are you? 

::::My word was good enough to take in the case of Humanity's Saviours, it's odd that's not the case here. Are you or are you not a current member of the RRF War Council? Accordingly are you authorised to speak for the RRF in this case? Am I a member of the group in question as were the requesters of the DEM below? This is nothing but your own pride speaking, every point the DEM can make the GC and the BC can respind with in kind, this is nothing but pure bias. Until such time as a member of the War Council overrules me, I am the user with the most relevant information regarding the RRF, not you. If this was any other group these pages would be moved back as the DEM's were, the only difference is yourself and whatever feelings you may have over the group you no longer speak for. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 03:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::What difference does it make that Karek is not part of the RRF WC ? He ruled on this case in favor of the HS, keeping their page in its rightful place (as in not being a subpage of the PK). We rule against your interest and its bias, we rule for your interest is bias as well ? WTF ? BTW, stop shitting on admin pages. Last warning, --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 03:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::How is it my favour? I am not a member of Humanity's Saviours. Kindly trying to place words into my mouth, it is disingenuous.

::::::The fact, as Karek is aware, concerns an earlier case that he said he would research on and provisionally ruled on based on his own experience. My own research has proven that his initial ruling had no basis over that of rumour. Therefore I question the basis of his original assumption,as is my right as a member of a group he has disadvantaged by declining its return to its own group space. My questions are pertinent to the validity of his ruling to the cases I originally brought and that he promised he would look into. The fact that I have found and know the base and validity of his statements to be fallacious do not make my posts here in bad faith, no matter of how you prefer to remove me. My edits are an attempt to resolve a pending case in the appropriate administration page. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 03:57, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

===Gore Corps===
:Let's look at the Axe High arguments you accepted. Existed before joining current group? Check. Had that space until Cheese moved it by the request of someone not in the group? Check. Operates separately? Check. 

:You'll notice I don't dispute the TA or AU10 moves, however these fit the same criteria as Axes High, so how about you stop showing bias and start being fucking objective? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 22:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::I'm RRF and I have no problem with this (I don't think Moloch would be too bothered either to be honest). Stop being a picky bastard and go outside and get some air. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 22:08, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I contested the original move, you overruled me and went and fucking moved it. If Axes High's page gets returned to it's own personal space, these should as well. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 22:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::I didn't accept the arguments made on the wiki, I was talking with group leaders via IRC and got more information regarding it. In addition to the fact that it was a somewhat questionable move in the first place as shown by the discussion following it. Second, you're arguing with the wrong person regarding RRF groups and structure.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:12, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::How convenient(!) An IRC conversation that no-one can check. We'll just take your word for it and have no oversight or even log it here shall we? I notice we're trying to sweep it away by moving this to Recent Actions. At least Grim was fucking consistent... -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 23:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Hello? ==

I someone gonna move my page or not?--[[User:Imthatguy|Imthatguy]] 02:35, 8 July 2009 (BST)
:Ummm....--[[KyleStyle_For_Everything|<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> ]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 02:42, 8 July 2009 (BST)

== Move request template ==

When we put things up for deletion or speedy deletion, or protections, we place a template on the page to notify whose watching the page in question. Do we have an equivalent for move requests? I had a quick look but have had no luck and no longer have access to a computer until tomorrow. 

If there’s no template, I’ll make one. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 03:50, 30 July 2018 (UTC)