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===[[User:Terrible Man|Terrible Man]] request.===
Not sure this is in the right space but does ANYONE who uses anonymizers/proxies get banned? if so is there a way to change that rule? It is very hard to surf at school or work and not have your trail traced. That is the whole reason these things were invented. [[User:Terrible Man|Terrible Man]] 20:50, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
: Nope Standard policy. But you don't get banned, just the ip addy for any proxy. Non-static IP caught in vandalism are also banned occasionally. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[DHPD]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 22:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

==The General 2.0==
''On this wiki, we define Vandalism as "an edit not made in a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki"''... check [[User:The General/sig|this page here]]. If that isn't a bad faith attempt to break every page he signs on, I don't know what is.--{{User:Gage/sig}} 17:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
:We have a tendency to play by the letter of the law. You lot '''rejected''' an acceptable signatures policy! If we went round banning/warning everyone who made "an edit not made in a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki", then we'd have basically no one left. However, as a gesture of good faith, I will remove the text in question.--{{User:The General/sig}} 17:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Jesus Christ. '''Not Vandalism'''. Gage, please try to think things through before you go off and do them. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 17:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Look what I started... Annoying Siggy Club FTW--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 17:45, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Enough with this shit. This isnt Uncyclopedia! You two should behave as a role model for other wiki users, and look what you are doing ? Being children and annoying the heck from all others. I ask you two infants to take this blinky-colorful signatures and just use the regular text-only signatures you always have used. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 19:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
:You know, any time I start forgetting why I stopped getting involved here, all I have to do is look at the moderation section.  *Shakes head sadly* --{{User:Mia Kristos/sig}} 00:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
::HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA....Agreed. --[[User:Zod Rhombus|Zod Rhombus]] 00:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
:::The flashy sig things are annoying but there is no way the  automatic log-out thing on his page is in good faith. Its his user page so its not like its a really big deal but still...--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 01:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
:Oh, go shove it up your arse, Hagnat. Everyone knows how superior you think you are, and how ''low'' you think everyone else is. Stop trying to angle for 'cratship and the moral high ground. It's sickening. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 05:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

{{Quote|Amazing|If you're not willing to misuse Mod power and fling profane insults at others left and right - you'll be forgotten among the UD Wiki mods. It's kind of like an asylum for egomaniacal tourettes patients there. Think of slipping below the radar as a good thing, because - hey - you're not one of them.}}
:::I think this little situation just proves the truth of this statement. Seriously, people. Cyberbob especially. Whatever ''short''comings you're trying to compensate for, we don't need to know about them.--[[User:J Muller|J Muller]] 00:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Me especially? Not unbiased ''at all'', are you? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 05:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::You may notice, good sir, that ''I'' am not a mod. And I was really just making a joke about the obscene length of your sig anyway, so there's no need to get excited.--[[User:J Muller|J Muller]] 06:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::You might notice, that even if you ''were'' a mod, there's precisely zero official pressure to be nice and pleasant. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 06:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Did I say there was? Am I Kevan? No. I'm not running the wiki at the moment, so I ''know'' there's no official pressure to be nice.--[[User:J Muller|J Muller]] 23:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::That quote is rich. Power abuse and profane language? Both things which Amazing was noted for. –[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] <sup>[[Special:Listusers/sysop|M]]•[[User talk:Xoid|T]]•<span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.th7.net F]</span>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 06:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Gage.  Bad faith is the core definition of vandalism and flashy sigs ''meant'' to be annoying, even to prove a point about the stupidness of flashy sigs, are by definition bad faith.  I don't know anything about a failed policy on flashy sigs, but please, just write another policy and get rid of that thing.  And let's get this whole thing out of Vandal Banning and into, if the problem doesn't get fixed, Arbitration.--[[User:SA-TA-EK-Rumisiel|'STER]]-<font size="-3">[[User talk:SA-TA-EK-Rumisiel|Talk]]-[[Moderation|Mod]]</font><sup>[[Project Wiki Patrol|P!]]</sup> 02:10, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

:I'd say that we should simply write a policy to apply bad faith to signatures, but that would be ridiculous, as ANY page in the wiki is subject to bad faith.  I hate to say this, as a lot of you are my friends, but saying bad faith doesn't apply to your signatures just because some policy failed is slightly retarded, and you should all be fired for saying so. 
:That said, someone move this to the talk page :P --{{User:Mia Kristos/sig}} 02:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
::Talk page, sure.  I agree, bad faith is bad faith.  However, the people who ''started'' the flashy sigs discussion, by having flashy sigs in the first place (I'm looking at you, anime) were acting in bad taste but not necessarily bad faith.  To make them get less annoying sigs, we'd really need to put in a new policy; the current rules don't allow punishments for being annoying in general, as countless trolls have proved.--[[User:SA-TA-EK-Rumisiel|'STER]]-<font size="-3">[[User talk:SA-TA-EK-Rumisiel|Talk]]-[[Moderation|Mod]]</font><sup>[[Project Wiki Patrol|P!]]</sup> 03:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Bah... My Siggy is tame compared to what these monkeys have created.  It did at once have a blink, but that got removed.  Besides, certain mods told me my sig was not annoying enough and even HELPED ME make it... since I didnt know wiki/html all that well.--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 03:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah! Monkeys! {{User:CaptainM/sig}} 04:20, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

As a side comment: when this commentaries were moved to the Talk page, you left the case without a ruling. It's not a big deal, just that it's like an eyesore to me: maybe you people didn't notice and want to fix it too. --{{User:Matthewfarenheit/Signature}} 04:25, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I removed the blinking. I didn't really take the time last night to test out how much it uglified actual pages - I really only saw it on my sig page. Sowwy... if you guys think it's ''that bad'', I'll revert to how it was before - but after the time it took to make, I'd really rather not. Also - this was '''not''' an act of childishness. It was an act of tired boredom. Just thought I'd let you know. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 05:20, 9 January 2007 (UTC)