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==help==
hi just wondering if you could tell me how i should go about making a group page for a zombie group i want to start, and where i can recruit members. thanks. jp.

{{unsigned|James Patterson}}

==A Hunt Involving Men==

I'm thinking, about organising it. Thoughts so far are, 

*2 player teams

0r

*Sitting Ducks. That is random bonus characters are introduced every few days, person who kills them gets bonus points, plus it brings everyone closer together. 

What you reckon? 

--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:00, 1 October 2009 (BST)
:Sounds cool, how do we find random bonus characters? Are they involved in the hunt originally or randoms? Either way is good obvs, just wondering who will decide which randoms are the bonuses? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Silver}}-- 17:01, 1 October 2009 (BST)

[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1625391] thats how, the grand high commander creates them. 3 bonus points for whoever finds the bonus man in [[Vinetown]] --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:01, 1 October 2009 (BST)

== moza tov on your promotion! ==

now do what SA failed to do and BURN THIS MOTHER DOWN!----[[User:Sexualharrison|Sexualharrison]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] [[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]] 14:46, 4 October 2009 (BST)
:And the pleasure will be all mine. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Silver}}-- 16:58, 4 October 2009 (BST)

== Reorganize History ==

On your project page, you note the need to reorganize [[:Category:History]]. What do you mean by that?  Put it in chronological order? Sub-categorize it?  also, congrats on the crat. {{User:Rorybob/Sig}}21:32, 4 October 2009 (BST)~
:Category:History is currenlty a mixture of POV group history, events relevant to the game's history and also historical events made by Kevan. Some of us had some plans to fix it up. Rooster and I had the conversation [[User_talk:DanceDanceRevolution#Game_History|here]] about it, I don't usually get around to recategorization because it's on the lower half of my list of to-do's on the wiki. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Silver}}-- 02:01, 5 October 2009 (BST)

== Questions ==

I want to make a page for my alt.  I want to avoid all the confusion of VB related things, now do I have to create a User:Kalei page or do I have to create it as a User:DarkBlueHelmet/Kalei page?  Thanks.  --{{User:Dark Blue Helmet/Sig}} 02:05, 5 October 2009 (BST)
:It would be User:DarkBlueHelmet/Kalei, as there's no such user named "Kalei." Non-existant userpages are criteria for automatic moving, I forget which exactly. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 03:15, 5 October 2009 (BST)
:You have the page put at [[User:Dark Blue Helmet/Kalei]]. Look like it's already been done, good luck with the page. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Silver}}-- 05:52, 5 October 2009 (BST)
::Thanks.  I made the page after Bob had said to do it that way.  --{{User:Dark Blue Helmet/Sig}} 14:53, 5 October 2009 (BST)

==Orphans==

The no content ones will be up for deletions, any ones with a home base will be added to the history section of that building. Everything else?  Not sure yet. But it gets them off the orphans list for now. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 12:09, 5 October 2009 (BST)

== Re: Suggestions ==

Yeah, you'd be right. Must have just put it into the wrong heading. I may be drinking too much... {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:22, 9 October 2009 (BST)

==[[La Révolution]]==

Any chance you can do a ghost image type thang on it? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:33, 11 October 2009 (BST)
:No probs. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 09:56, 11 October 2009 (BST)

== Sysop ==

As you said on Boxy's A/M case, there are currently only 3 active sysops. So, instead of applying as a sysop next month, as I had planned, I'm thinking I may well do it quite soon. Do you think I've made the necessary improvements before my application?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 16:18, 11 October 2009 (BST)
:[[UDWiki:Administration/Promotions#Guidelines_for_System_Operator_Requests|Think you fit the criteria?]] If so, try and work out what questions people will ask you of the process. Why do you want to be a sysop? What would you do with your sysop power? What are your achievements? That kind of thing. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:31, 11 October 2009 (BST)
::The only thing which I might not meet is indication of trust (which is why I've asked here, and asked on other sysop's talks before). I want to be a sysop to 
::# Help the wiki by taking some of the burden from the others sysops.
::# Be able to deal with admin stuff while the other sysops are asleep or whatever (from what I can tell, Cyberbob, DDR and Boxy are all australian. As I'm on the other side of the globe, I'm likely to be online at different times.)
:::If I had sysop powers, I'd really just keep on with what I'm doign now, except I'd also do more work on the admin pages, and use the powers I'd gain to help speed things up. As for my achievments, I archive all the suburb news every month (on the 12th actually, so I'll be doign that tomorrow), and I've started (and nearly completed) updating the suburbs with those little icon in the header things. I'm also an arbitrator, though I haven't one cases. Stuff like that.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 16:37, 11 October 2009 (BST)
::::Don't forget the orphan stuff. Thats another admin thing. I'd come upwith a better reason than 1. Remember that a lot of bids and votes attract drama. Being a sysop means VB and misconduct, how you deal with these in a bid reflects how you would deal with them as s sop. If you are after more admin things why not try adding to this. [[Suburb/History#The_Record]] --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:54, 11 October 2009 (BST)
:::::Yeah, i've seen that before, but I can't do it because it doesn't fit on this screen. I guess I could fumble with adding screenshots together, but it's rather overtly ridiculous. And I'm aware of the a/vb and a/m thing, and I feel that I could handle it.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 16:57, 11 October 2009 (BST)
::::::Could you not use the zoom function on your browser? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:13, 11 October 2009 (BST)
:::::::It's feasible.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 17:15, 11 October 2009 (BST)
:::::::Besides, the suburb map really doesn't show the actual state of the city. It's a pretty terrible system.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 17:15, 11 October 2009 (BST)
::To be frank, I'm looking for more in a sysop than just a queue handler, the admin chores never sit for more than a couple of hours, mostly thanks to Bob, so that's not in my priorities with new ops at the moment. It could change anytime, of course, but at the moment I want more strong willed people on the team. The truth is at the moment the only user in the community I would vouch is Rosslessness, when it comes to anyone else I'm just going to hear out the community's say more than anything else. I'm planning on writing a small article on tasks and things I think people should consider adopting if they want to help out the sysops, just in case people find themselves in your position working to become an op for the wiki. Obviously you don't have to wait for it.
::It doesn't hurt to have a promotion bid anyway even if you aren't going to get into the position, I did it, it lets users tell you straight and honestly what they want out of you as a sysop and in my experience it is the best critiquing tool, even if the bid itself fails horribly. I'd recommend it for sure. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 17:41, 11 October 2009 (BST)
:::Cool, I'll set one up on tuesday, or sometime around then.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 17:44, 11 October 2009 (BST)
::::Oh, and read the old bids! see how most people react. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:49, 11 October 2009 (BST)
:::::Definitely a doozey. Read the archives of old user bids, successful bids of users that interest you. It helps you understand more about the community and the wiki as a whole- definitely a good thing to do on a rainy day, and something I think you'd be interested in Yonnua, given your epic narrative stuff about present day admin business. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 17:52, 11 October 2009 (BST)
::::::And if you don't get in find a project to do that puts a massive template on as many pages as possible in an admin type way.
::::::<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Group Active?|Group Active?]]}} 
::::::<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:orphan|orphan]]}}
::::::Does wonders if you want to raise your profile :). --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:08, 11 October 2009 (BST)
:::::::I've actually already looked at loads of the old bids, funnily enough.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:23, 11 October 2009 (BST)
::::::::In a nutshell my initial sentiment towards sysop-ready users is that they do our jobs for us; for example if they see something needing a move, like a noobs character page in the mainspace, move it over themselves, check for incoming links, change them, and then [[template:speedydelete]] the original page and put it up for A/SD, then notify the user of the change. Saves us the trouble of doing all of the above, and we instead have to just press one delete button rather than having to worry about everything else in the move. Something like that, for example, demonstrates that you know how the system works, you know how to do you job properly and you also work tightly with the community and new users. Proactive stuff like that can mean alot to some people. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 00:02, 12 October 2009 (BST)
:::::::::^^^^^^^^ {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 01:18, 12 October 2009 (BST)
It was more of a challenge. You have a lot of people chiming in on misconduct, but very few sysops. Combined with your "only 3 active comment" I thought It might nudge people towards a promotion bid or two. I reckon that at least 3 users who should put in bids before the end of the year, and 1 or 2 of them will be successful. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:03, 11 October 2009 (BST)

== Lexicon ==

The Lexicon is starting on Monday the 19th. You are a confirmed user. {{User:Rorybob/Sig}}07:46, 13 October 2009 (BST)

== Sorry ==

I missed the guidelines page when I was looking through the policy, and I never meant to offend you, or to stir up drama. I was just providing what I thought at the time was a correct policy interpretation. Naturally, I'd forgotten about the most important page. <_<. Ah well, sorry about that.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 15:53, 13 October 2009 (BST)
:It wasn't for you, it was for Iscariot, you never offended me, don't worry. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 19:20, 13 October 2009 (BST)
::Oh, cool. Just checking, because I didn't want to annoy anyone, and I did kind of invade the conversation with pointless (and incorrect) drivle.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 13 October 2009 (BST)

==Not Sorry==

So are you gonna leave it alone now that boxy said to?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 17:08, 13 October 2009 (BST)
:You can't be serious. You disgust me. I thought the question was all too obvious; are '''you''' going to leave it alone? You little parasite? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 19:18, 13 October 2009 (BST)
::the answer to that was obvious to everyone but you, and hopefully now you've caught on...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 16:02, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:::Why would I? I don't speak "AlIm". --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 16:14, 16 October 2009 (BST)
::::Not sure what alim has to do with anything, but '''i''' will be leaving it alone because my one and only concern was that someone who i had specifically requested don't edit my groups page did edit it. Simple huh? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 16:23, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:::::Yeah, and all ''I'' was concerned about was that the page was categorised, and Boxy did so. Even simpler, no? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 16:26, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:::::::Mmm sounds nice and simple but the fact that you reverted my edit rather than simply leaving it or requesting someone else make the edit reeks of bad faith. Whatever, continue with personal vendetta, i can cope. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 16:30, 16 October 2009 (BST)
::::::::If it reeks of bad faith, send me to A/VB. Interesting how you didn't, what with the [[User:Iscariot|community]] protecting your back just ''so'' heavily. I reverted your edit because I was in the right, if I weren't you would have happily done something about it. Wiki apathy for the lose. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 16:34, 16 October 2009 (BST)
::::::::::I did nothing about it because i came back and boxy,who you'd like to think you're just as mature as had fixed it all up. No A/VB necessary.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 16:40, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:::::::::::You misinterpret my self esteem. And don't talk to me about maturity. Reverting a categorisation because a user you don't like used it? Sheesh. Just let this all go. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 16:42, 16 October 2009 (BST)
::::::::::::I would have bought that before i logged in today and saw your tirade of edits against me. And i don't not like you, i just don't understand you...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 16:44, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:::::::::::::Ditto. And my 'tirade' was brought on by your typical cries of "vendetta" and "personal bullydome" despite the issue at hand: I wanted to categorise a page and you reverted it for nothing less than a petty kick to get one up on me. How would you expect me to react. With lulz? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 16:47, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:::::::::::::::Honestly? I thought you'd take a chance to be mr mature and leave it, or contact boxy or one of your alts for all i care and get them to make the edit - both easy and avoiding of drama, well maybe not the alt one...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 16:50, 16 October 2009 (BST)
::::::::::::::::I did appeal for users to do it, hence why Boxy did it. I hoped it wouldn't have to come to it. Why are we still discussing this? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 17:00, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:::::::::::::::::Coz you keep ending your posts with questions? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 17:02, 16 October 2009 (BST)
::::::::::::::::::One wonders your excuse for the other two. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 17:07, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:::::::::::::::::::lol if you wonder then just drop a question mark in there and i'll be more than happy to fill you in :) --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 17:09, 16 October 2009 (BST)

== Git ==

I'd just made an archive page, sorted everything and clicked save for it to say the page had already been created and protected.

I feel I must therefore <big>''':P'''</big> at you. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 07:18, 14 October 2009 (BST)

:Iscariot I kindly ask you to stop stirring.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 07:20, 14 October 2009 (BST)
:<nowiki>:P</nowiki>, enjoy the breakfast --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 07:21, 14 October 2009 (BST)

Thanks for the protect, DDR, I knew I'd forgotten something.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 07:23, 14 October 2009 (BST)

==In response to [[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Explicit_vandalism_listing|this]]==

Since you hastily protected the page i'll reply to you here - i'm not really gonna bother writing much since you've clearly lost any sense of reason. There's not just black or white but all shades of grey and lets agree that boxy did us both a favour. I'm not sure what you're all het up about but maybe calm down a tad and cut the personal stuff, its not a good look for the usually cool headed and nonconfrontational ddr.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 16:17, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:Being told from you of all people to worry about image is rather condescending. I think I'll manage, thanks.
:And fyi, I scheduled it because I'm a sysop and it's my ''job''. You had a whole day to reply to me and you didn't, your loss. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 16:32, 16 October 2009 (BST)
::A whole day! Thanks man! And now i have replied and you've ignored almost all of what i wrote...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 16:33, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:::Why should I bother? The issue is closed by your own admission- Box fixed it up and I've moved on. God knows why you're coming back to it? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 16:35, 16 October 2009 (BST)
::::Don't bother for all i care. I'm coming back to it because your reponse is so outrageously emotional i feel there must be something deeper going on here. If you don't wanna discuss thats fine, but like i said - try if possible to keep wiki/irl seperate. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 16:38, 16 October 2009 (BST)

It was low, charlie - keep your little personal dispute with jed between you and him and don't drag me into it anymore. Thanks.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 16:39, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:I have no personal dispute with him :/ His antics on the wiki just annoy me. Lots, sometimes. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 16:39, 16 October 2009 (BST)
::Clearly you do and I can't believe you'd bother denying it. This isn't the place for specifics I'm just saying keep it off the wiki and keep it between yourselves. Put yourself in my shoes and maybe you'll understand.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 16:52, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:::I don't. The wiki is a playground for our personalities. I thought we'd already discussed this. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 17:00, 16 October 2009 (BST)
::::If that really is all it is then fine.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 17:07, 16 October 2009 (BST)

==Heya==

While our personalities are playing would you mind creating a member template for [[TSCC]]? Dunke in advance.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 17:26, 16 October 2009 (BST)
:I'm busy atm but I will soon. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 17:59, 16 October 2009 (BST)

== Co-player ==

Hey, I need a co-player for Dr. Red! My computer does not want to work well with urbandead alot, so y'know [[User:Dr Red Shadows|Dr Red Shadows]]
:So, what's up? You need a friend in-game? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 06:06, 17 October 2009 (BST)
::try deleting history, enabling cookies, dropping firewalls etc etc etc. I couldn't play UD for about 2 months until I realized I should try all of that. Now I don't play UD at all coz it sucks.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 06:10, 17 October 2009 (BST)

== Arbitration ==

An interim [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Cyberbob%2C_Sexylegsread_and_DanceDanceRevolution_vs._2_Cool#Interim_Ruling Ruling] has been made.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 10:58, 18 October 2009 (BST)

== Earletown Barricade Plan ==

Currently there are two conflicting barricade plans for [[Earletown]]. There is [[BOW/Suicide Prevention Protocol|BOW's plan]], and there is [[Template:Earletown Barricade Plan|another plan]] I think the latter one makes no sense, with '''all hospitals heavily barricaded and inaccessible to newbies''', but it's the one put on the suburb page. However, the page [[Earletown Barricade Plan]] redirect to BOW's page. This is extremely confusing.

Since you're the one who make latest edits and redirects on those two plans a few days ago, I have to ask you this: which plan is the real barricade plan which was reviewed on '''October 10, 2009'''? I'm inclined to switch the plan to BOW's one, since it looks better. But I believe asking people who reviewed it is a better idea. Thank you. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 21:59, 19 October 2009 (BST)
:I didn't actually review it, I was just working on both the pages to move a category over, so I've never actually seen the content. [[Template:Earletown Barricade Plan]]'s image is 2 years more recent to BOW's version, but since there are not really any preferences over who has the "official" barricade plan (a cade plan is only as official as however well a group enforces it), it's up to guys like you, regulars in the suburb, at leased I assume you are, to choose which one is more appropriate. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 01:23, 20 October 2009 (BST)

:I can answer that question, since I am conducting the recent string of reviews for UBP compliance. The plan that was reviewed was the template. If the BOW plan is the one more commonly used throughout the suburb, let me know on the UBP page and I will re-review the suburb later this week. Either way, locals will want to decide on one plan and remove the other, or at least request that the link to it from the suburb page be removed. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 09:24, 20 October 2009 (BST)

Noone cares about the Earletown Barricade Plan .{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:34, 20 October 2009 (BST)
::You see, here's the problem: I'm not one of the suburb's regulars. I'm just a passerby who is staying temporarily, and not going to stay longer than a month. Looking at this inconsistency, and the nonsensical of the current barricade plan is giving me headaches. I posted a similar question on both the suburb talk page and BOW's. I think I'm going to leave the decision to them. And if no one cares, it's their loss. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 19:56, 20 October 2009 (BST)
:::Fair call. Either way, good luck. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 00:07, 21 October 2009 (BST)

==I hazprecedent==

that saiz you just comited teh vandalism. Now what do you offer me to not report you?{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:51, 20 October 2009 (BST)
:Report me. I have even more precedent that says baiting users on their user talk pages via headers in the way you did nullifies said vandalism accusations, though I won't need it. Unless you mean something other than your ===header===? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 09:53, 20 October 2009 (BST)
::I pretty sure its a nipple based argument. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:57, 20 October 2009 (BST)
:::Ooooh I await the case, I'm interested in seeing what I did. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 09:58, 20 October 2009 (BST)
::baiting users? you've lost me...and i'm interested to hear of this precedent you have...may i sample the [[User:Linkthewindow]]?{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:59, 20 October 2009 (BST)
:::I'm lost too now... Just throw the case up already... I'm too curious now. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 10:00, 20 October 2009 (BST)
::::Haha likewise, but unfortunately with all this discussion of it and the fact it was veryweak to begin with it will most likly result in a case against me, and we all know i'm being a good boy and editing wots toget a warning struckeded :) {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:02, 20 October 2009 (BST)
:::::Were you going to bring vandalism for [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:DanceDanceRevolution&diff=1583075&oldid=1583073 this edit]?.  Or for the previously mentioned nipple?  Are you drunk, J3d, be honest =P --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 10:04, 20 October 2009 (BST)
::::::I'm pretty sure I made that edit ''after'' he brought this claim/discussion to light. I thought it was cause he duped the header above and I deleted it and moved his comment up. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 10:07, 20 October 2009 (BST)
::::::I don't drink, it's bad for yourhealth.
::::::<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>butseriously,i'm sober.{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:11, 20 October 2009 (BST)

==Rmbr==

When we used to always drunkenly promise to never fight again? Okay it happened like twice, but still! {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:12, 20 October 2009 (BST)
:But fighting is what keeps us together man.. When you get back, my bed's still free. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 10:14, 20 October 2009 (BST)
::I hope you'll still be keeping it warm ;) {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:16, 20 October 2009 (BST)
:::That's it I'm going to Asia with cyberbob now!--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 10:18, 20 October 2009 (BST)
::::HA! be careful, he's a tough lover, trust me. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 10:24, 20 October 2009 (BST)
:::::If you classify "masturbating in the cupboard while you get changed after your shower" being a tough lover then, well I guess you are right.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 12:13, 20 October 2009 (BST)
::::::.......Would I be interrupting something special here?--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 13:13, 20 October 2009 (BST)

== Your Biggest Fan ==

That's me!--<small><small><span style="border:1px solid black;"><big><small>'''[[User:KnitKnitInstitution|<span style="color:{{SUBST:{1}}}">K</span>]]<span style="color:{{SUBST:{2}}}">NIT</span>[[User:KnitKnitInstitution|<span style="color:{{SUBST:{1}}}">K</span>]]<span style="color:{{SUBST:{2}}}">NIT</span>[[User:KnitKnitInstitution|<span style="color:{{SUBST:{1}}}">I</span>]]<span style="color:{{SUBST:{2}}}">NSTITUTION</span>'''</small></big></span></small></small> 10:42, 23 October 2009 (BST)
:whoa {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 11:27, 23 October 2009 (BST)

== ZombiePalin ==

hi there, this is ZombiePalin. quite simply im on a mission to erradicate rotters relief.  they are a menace to zombies everywhere and love nothing  more than farming zombies for xp.  im hoping that you could spend a little more time getting to know the folks at RR like i have, and their brains are quite tasty.
:Good luck with that. I haven't been a member of RR for years now, but from what I experienced they did more for the rotter community than you will ever do. Good day. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 04:32, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
::Personally, I don't expect much will come from it either. But what the hell,... I've always been a believer in the snow ball effect.... jump on the band wagon,.... you never know what kind of shinanigans you'll get yourself into.... -'''[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of Doom]]'''<sup>[[Project Mentor|<span style="color: CornflowerBlue">'''M!'''</span style>]]</sup> <sup>[[Image:Hazard.jpg|12px|Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.]]</sup> 04:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

==Why not just delete it==

Theres never going to be anything in it. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:05, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:I lived in hope, but fine. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 12:26, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:Ross is bitter. :) --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 12:30, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
::Massively. You help destroy virtually every mall in a perma death city, you are the only zed group who takes endgame seriously, you eat Axehack. And you're still less historical than a mall tour? Pfft. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 12:54, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Actually thinking about it, next time Kevan starts a new permadeath city I may bring them back. Bring terror all over again! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:11, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
::::I will join! Might actually make me enjoy a permadeath city. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 13:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Of course I'll still call it the monroeville many. Ive actually got some weird organisational madness I want to try. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::Nice. That'd make it more lol. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 13:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

== Lexicon ==

You need to make a citation for round 1 of the Lexicon. The articles still requiring citations are marked. (They are marked [[Lexicon:Survival/ABC|here]].  You also need to write your article for the second round. 00:22, 29 October 2009 (UTC)) {{User:Rorybob/Sig}}23:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
:Done. Can't go past a sex-oriented citation. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 09:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. But that counts towards the articles three citation limit. {{User:Rorybob/Sig}}10:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Remember to write your article for [[Lexicon:Survival/GHI|round 3]] of the Lexicon! {{User:Rorybob/Sig}}19:18, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Article and citation '''must''' be done by midnight tonight. Otherwise you get a naughty mark on your record! {{User:Rorybob/Sig}}17:05, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Okay, I'll try and get it done. For the record, I won't mind if I get struck from the lexicon if I don't comply, just busy atm. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 22:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== De-Escalation ==

i got this on my talk page:

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User_talk:Delta_Nitroxs_LP#De-Escalation

i dont know what to think, but if it's true, can i get this gone? lol

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/A/VD#User:Delta_Nitroxs_LP --{{User:Delta Nitroxs LP/sig}}
:I already did. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 01:06, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

== halt ==

You should probably stop trying to speak to him, before you pop a blood vessel. Everyone knows that you a user needs to know what an edit should be when they go to make an edit, but he doesn't. He also doesn't seem to understand that he is alone in thinking that the edit boxy made is worse than what was before, and still hasn't provided a precise explanation as to why (unless I am missing). Here's a tactic: [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:IPAT|don't bother.]] (ok I know that says personal attacks, but you get the idea, though his posts are now past any substance). --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:14, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
:Second, as YK's talk page, etc. etc. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 03:21, 29 October 2009 (BST)
::Got work. I've had my fill of him for the day anyway. Peace reigns! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 03:24, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
::: :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 03:32, 29 October 2009 (BST)

== Yonnua ==

I find it hilarious that you say "Look what you've started". Also, that you accuse me of going and accusing Boxy of anything, and "not reading the whole situation". Look back at Boxy's talk, and you'll see that I went and asked him politely, and he gave a polite answer, which was completely acceptable, and would've prompted me going back to Iscariot and asking more. Then, someone else turned up and started screamign the place down, actually starting an argument with Iscariot. Oh wait, that was you. Now, I'm not saying that you did it alone, Iscariot definitely helped, but you ''did'' cause a major amount of the issue. you have no place telling me that I'm the one who caused the problem.
:Now, as we can see from the fact that it's caused such an uproar again, it's a major problem on the wiki. I was just trying to solve it, so that Iscariot wouldn't constantly be trying to get one over on Boxy and the rest of you, and to try and stop him creating an A/A case, which it's pretty obvious he's about to do. I've always found you to be impartial in this sort of thing, but this has even got ''you'' stirred up. All I wanted was to try and fix the situation.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
::I persisted in defending Boxy's actions because you so successfully managed to get Iscariot worked up on his own talk page, while (as usual) forming no independent opinion of your own. It would have exploded regardless of whether I instigated it or not. Look at how snivelingly pathetic your initial comment was on Boxy's talk. And I'm not just saying that for the sake of it; it is the entire point of my attitude towards the part you played in starting this. "''Would it be that much trouble for the edit to be changed back to how it was before, at least until the data is made how it should be?''" Of course it would be too much trouble, because attaining what it ''should'' be is impossible, because it involves reversing 6 days worth of ban-time that Iscariot unacceptably incurred. If you'd have done a background check on the entire affair, you would have understood that.
::The lesson I want you to learn is that we are not incapable retards and the A/VD situation is fucked up for a reason, and will never be perfect, and Boxy did a mighty fine job of fixing it up considering the circumstances, and until Iscariot actually proves that there is a better method to be had (which, I think you'll have gathered by now, we have done nothing ''other'' than offer him to share it to no avail), Boxy's version is that which should stay. This is further demonstrated by the fact no one has kicked up a stink but Iscariot himself. All I could have asked in the first place is that you actually had gone and looked at the situation and made your ''own'' opinion, and that was the main point of my comment. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 11:57, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, part of making my own opinion was to see what the two people involved, Boxy and Iscariot, said about it. And why don't we just say that the next 6 days of ban time he gets are discounted, because he's already served them? Arguably, that does mean he can perform vandalism "for free", but that could at least minimalise the issue. Could it? I don't know. It depends upon him acting like a dick, which he always seems to do. Part of this was me hoping that he wouldn't be so immature and aggressive, and that he would cool down and try to resolve it through communication.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 12:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Of course that's the easiest solution, something we'd unanimously support to the extent that it never even needed to be spoken bar when Boxy announced it on Talk:A/VD. But it isn't that simple because it isn't hard to just use "credit" as a way of saying sorry, or simply saying we were wrong. And Nubis was already demoted by this point so any sort of corrective action was futile. And there's always the fact that it all happened under our noses and no one managed to pick it up. You see now why I don't take it lightly? Anyways, it's been done, let's move on. I think I've managed to prove (through my own poor form) that this isn't going to go anywhere despite Iscariot's claims. I'm ready to pass this by. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 12:27, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::I agree. The situation got way too far out of hand, and it would be best to leave it.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 12:33, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::How does it feel to be one of the primary actors in the getting-out-of-hand of the situation {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

==hmmm==
I believe you, Iscariot lurves his drama too much to be credible {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:36, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
:... Was that sarcasm? If not, then yeah for sure. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 12:38, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
::No, it was not sarcasm. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Just don't remember saying it myself is all. But I do agree. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 12:44, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

==Mid November==

It will be done. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 12:59, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

== Arb Case ==

I see you have archived the arb case. I was planning on doing that myself until Iscaridiot decided that he disputed the ruling and thus the case. Ah well, it's your problem now, so good luck with dealing with his stupidity. I will look out for your misconduct case, for protecting a disputed case in which your involved, or whatever other nonsense he'll make up. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 13:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
:Iscariot is more reasonable than you think. The case wasn't disputed because all involved parties accepted and he has absolutely no authority over the outcome over the case unless an arbitrator sanctions him with it, which one one will. Don't worry, but thanks for the concern. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 13:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

== I'm thinking of running ==

for sysop, but wanted some input. Do you think I'm qualified for the position? With Ross and Rorybob's recent applications, is it too early to run?

Here is [[Special:Contributions/Red_Hawk_One|my resume]], if you're interested in contribution background (over 4000 edits). Specifically, I was the driving force behind completing the [[BIC]] (as documented [[User:Red Hawk One/My BIC|here]]), and partially behind the recent revival in demerging locations pages (as evidenced in the prior link, as well as the previous three month's A/SD records). I often follow [[A/SD]], [[A/PT]], and [[A/MR]], although as a regular user I am unable to really do anything on those pages. So far as I can tell, I have made no enemies, and am polite and professional in my appearance.

So, what do you think? Am I ready?

Thank you in advance,

--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 23:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
:Other applicants do not matter when it comes to running. We all should be looking at your contributions anyway, not basing it off of how many people we have oping. What's probably going to be your biggest downfall is you aren't seen enough, and we don't know how you'd react in a hostile environment, since you've had no enemies. We also don't know how you'd react and how active you'd be in A/VB and A/M. Stuff like that.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 23:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

:No. (I'll let DDR explain why) --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 00:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::Nvr, SA did.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 00:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:Basically, more active in drama zones, and you've got community support.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:03, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:I would vouch you. Drama experience is only necessary for drama prone users, or uses who interact more with the userbase. I would vouch you for the same reason I would vouch Rorybob, users who do grunt work and exhibit no apparent ego issues are trustworthy in my book. Rooster has proven this to us all, and I don't mind having as many Roosters as however many want to have the position of op. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:43, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Hay, don't we have an inactive group template somewhere?--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 00:40, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:I'll look. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:43, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::[[Template:InactiveGroup]]? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:44, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:::That'll do. Thanks.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 00:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Man, I didn't even ''know'' it was protected. Fuck mate. :/ --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 01:25, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah I know dude that's why I reverted it :( I will always remember it because Me and Jed used to joke about becoming sysops just so we could harass Finis again ;D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 01:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

[[Anti-zombie_squad|That floaty thingy can go outside of the normal page area, which is against the rules and stuffs. :/]] --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 01:50, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:Link dealt with that about 6 or 7 months ago, and they modified it so it didn't hug the right scrollbar as much, looks like they forgot about it overlapping with the bottom of the page. I will fix. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 02:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::kcoolthnx--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 02:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Still overlaps the 'category' section, but that won't hurt anyone methinks. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 02:04, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::::It's in the normal page area, whatever else isn't my problem. :D --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 02:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Your floaty thingy goes slightly out of bounds on my screen too.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 16:34, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::Correct you are, though I only ever took from the policy what Link said of it, so I assumed it wouldn't apply in userspaces, only the mainspace. If not, I'll happily change it. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:18, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Thats coolies, just trying to watch yo' back yo.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 14:13, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::=] --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 23:24, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::DID YOU GET SEVEN YET? OLO --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 18:04, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Speak of the devil, arrived literally just then =D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 21:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

==Oh right==

So now having your page recklessly vandalised doesn't make you an involved party in the subsequent case, makes sense. {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:05, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:Come again? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 10:06, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::Oh. Sheesh. Don't even try. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 10:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Revert or A/VB. {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:12, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Whatever. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 10:12, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::sigh, can you create the case yourself, cbf.{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:13, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:Nope, it doesn't make you involved. Sorry! {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

== descalation ==

i dont quite get what you did there, but AFAIK, i should be warning-free by now. Care to struck that last warning on my vandal record ? --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 16:57, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:One a month max.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 17:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:One strike a month, they are the guidelines. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:19, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
::the policy says once a month to prevent a user from spamming 2000 edits in a single month and getting rid of four ecalations in the same month. Given my edits were made in the past YEAR or so since my last warning, i dont see why it shouldnt be possible to remove them all at once in a single edit. But, whathehecks, its not like i am that much around here anymore to even bother with my vandal record. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 17:27, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::And it's not like you don't keep the warnings half the time anyway, right hag's? :D --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 01:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

==You==
[[User:Iscariot/PD/3|Here]]. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 02:37, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yep. Discuss there or here? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 03:13, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::I think there. BUT WHERE DAMN IT. The last one was ON the page. Does he want that again or what?--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 03:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::There and yah. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 03:21, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

== Opinion ==
Your opinion, on this [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FDeletions&diff=1593656&oldid=1593651 bit] and [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Deletions&diff=prev&oldid=1593658 this part] here. Guidelines are pretty clear if you ask me. Thanks in advance. (Also, keep this off SA's talkpage plz, I'd like to be able to discuss) --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 19:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:[[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Suicidalangel_vs_MisterGame|First things first]]. If you look at bullet two, it says "No editing of each others comments on pages". That to me includes votes. If you remember during the case, you complained about me editing your shit and dealing with you in an admin-y way. I said I would not if you left my shit alone. Why the ''fuck'' are you trying to antagonize me again?--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 19:56, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::Why are you always taking it so personal, and why always so ''fucking'' aggressive? Take a chill pill! I find it annoying, because it is in fact not obvious, and I could care less who's using his signature is behind it (behind nothing). Leaving out the bold part is one thing, but no motivation, just a sig is too much. Just because it's obvious for you, doesn't mean it's that for everyone.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:51, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Obvious or not, ''you'' should not have been the one to do it. You almost fucked me over on A/VB. You fucked up my talk page and would ''not'' heed my multiple requests for you to stay away. You didn't even attempt to settle everything on A/A. You may not be breaking any part of the arbitration ruling specifically (Although I think you are), but you're definitely breaking the spirit of it. Which is for us to just leave each other alone for the most part. I have done nothing with anything you've done or said sinc eI came back. You should be doing the same, and leaving the action up to '''someone else'''. That way, you know, you don't even have a ''chance'' of getting in trouble over that case. That's why this is personal, because after all this time ''you'' go and start on my edits, when clearly we should ''still'' be leaving each other alone.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 21:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Meh, I'm pretty much pass that entire A/A mess, though I respect it if you aren't yet. I do mean it serious when I said that strike was out of annoyance, not out of a personal vendetta. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 00:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:You are both in the wrong. Thad, leave his comments alone. You mean well but Arbies has spoken. As for you SA, stop being a lazy cunt. It's annoying and it just adds stress and annoyance for everyone else. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:02, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
::If you're going to specify for me, then it's just going to make me want to be lazy more. :/ --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 00:09, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Bah. The point is you can't go by trying to justify this, either way it needs to explicitly say which way, regardless of who does it for you. You lazy ass :*( --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:12, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
::::I wasn't justifying it so much as trying to prevent someone vbing thad, and getting him to, well, ''leave me the fuck alone like I wanted''.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 00:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Deletions&diff=prev&oldid=1593812 Hey] I dunno wa you did there SA, but you removed half of my vote. Get your lazy ass up and fix plz. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 00:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::HA! Would have been something to do with the edit conflict he had beforehand. Fixed. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:19, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Yep, I went to erase your strike tags, and I think I sort of missed the -> key and hit the v one instead. :/ And you know what? Honestly, just '''fuck off''' thad.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 00:22, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::There's that aggression coming up again :P --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 00:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::LOL! You two should get married, seriously. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:46, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::WHAT? DDR DON'T YOU LOVE ME ANYMORE?!?--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 02:08, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::You know I only loved you for your power. Now I have it, well... Here's the ring back. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 02:17, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah, this is why you went off about me trying to get you to make your vote clear, eh? Will actually writing delete on votes really cramp your style that much? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:39 7 November 2009 (BST)</small>
what the fuck is this shit {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 00:57, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:Bride Wars II. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 01:18, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
::Badoomching! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 01:19, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:::i lol'd --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 01:19, 6 November 2009 (BST)
Posting in an epic talk page!--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 01:48, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:not a good post, sorry {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 02:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
::Epic irony. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 02:20, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Another bad post :( {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 02:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:DanceDanceRevolution&diff=1593841&oldid=1593837 >>1593837]
:lol'd --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 02:17, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== Character redirect ==

:''RE: [[User_talk:Revenant#sorry]]:''
I dug up the [[A/D/S|deletion schedule]], the [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Scheduling/Archive#User_Page_Redirects|related discussion]], and the [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Archive/2008_11#Speels|A/D cases]] referred to therein. In all cases, the pages were titled identically to usernames or abbreviations thereof and pointed directly to user pages. By contrast, as there is [[User:Duke D'oeuvre|no user page]] directly corresponding to the [[Duke D'oeuvre|page title]], and as the schedule refers specifically to ''user pages'', I believe this case is sufficiently different to warrant being listed on [[A/D]] so as to gain the benefit of more consensus as to the interpretation of said schedule. Cheers! {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 00:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:How about [[DDR]]? Not much of a chance he got, huh? As convenient as it makes things, they can't be had. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
::It's an abbreviation of your username, and thus fits the same category as the other I linked. I've yet to see an example of what I described. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 01:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:::It's very simple. You have to have the name registered to have a user: redirect. You do not get non-user redirects unless you're kevan, there's pretty much no point in trying as a good enough argument can't be made. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:02, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Right, it was unclear wording that made me think it was allowable. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 04:58, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
[12:53]	<Revenant>	http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User_talk:DanceDanceRevolution Also, find me at all times of the day on IRC at #urbandeadwiki. // LIES! {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 01:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:But.. But.. It's the night! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 12:51, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:Death_Row_Teddy_Bears&redirect=no Kill me]. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 02:11, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:...wat the...--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 03:13, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
::It's a redirect to a user page that DDR missed when he got the main, I thought he might like to actually finish one job on this wiki to completion. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 07:18, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:::So, Mr. Completion, why are you not an ultra- reliable sysop yet? We could really use someone decent like you.  --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 09:20, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
::::You already know why not. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 09:32, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Because I may ''say'' I'm going to promote you and then not? Oh the humanity! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 09:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::It's nice that you're understanding one of your flaws. Also, spell ''harmanity'' correctly next time. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 09:44, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::K. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 09:44, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::GRRRR SPELLING THAT DOESNT CONFORM TO AN URBAN DEAD MEME MAKES ME SO MAD!!!! {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:45, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Lol best. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 09:54, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::^--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 13:36, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Actually I did.. ==

Read the DS, and if that is how arrogant people like you react to suggestions, then forgive me for trying to speak. I spend several hours a day studying to be a paramedic, not editing a wiki. So please, forgive me for wasting my time with such worthless skills and being a total ass. {{unsigned|RaidenMachina|07:43, 12 November 2009}}
:People don't react well when you put ''them'' through the work of fixing ''your'' suggestion so it doesn't get deleted on sight; so anyways, good luck in the future. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 07:50, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, and I'd like to see you resuscitate a man in critical condition. If working on the wiki is such a problem why even bother? Frankly you come off as an egotistical jerk who likes to talk down to people who can't do his "important" tasks via computer. {{unsigned|RaidenMachina|07:57, 12 November 2009}}
:::Well, I guess I won't bother convincing you otherwise since you've obviously got your heart set on using that one insult, so whatever. If you love resuscitating men so much, why aren't you doing it now? :/ --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 08:02, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
::::By the way, he's being nice to you. Soley due to the way ''you've'' acted I'm not going to be nice to you, hate to be you. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 08:04, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm off duty, just finished a required shift. And I think I've been rather calm. But sure, if everything I say and do here is wrong, then so be it. I won't ever make a single suggestion again so long as you'll be satisfied. I bear no hatred towards you, just sadness at your hostility. {{unsigned|RaidenMachina|08:11, 12 November 2009 (UTC)}}
:The hostility you are getting comes from the fact that if you had read Developing Suggestions, you would have realized two important things.
:#Changes to the way AP works is generally a bad idea.  Period.
:#You should '''ALWAYS''' put your suggestion in the Developing Suggestions area before it goes to vote.
:Since you ignored both of those--which should be apparent if you read the top couple sections on DevSug--''AND'' you ignored the formatting required for suggestions in the voting area, you are encountering hostility.  So seriously dude, trust me.  We appreciate that you have a life--most of us here do to.  Just put the shovel down. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 08:17, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I didn't ignore them Maverick, just slipped up on them. I honestly suck at wikis, if this were a forum or something I'd have it down. In my own defense I am rather out of it due to tonight's shift. But thanks for the friendly words, they mean a lot to me. {{unsigned|RaidenMachina}}

I bet I can be meaner than Iscariot.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 15:23, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:Bet you can't :P -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 15:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
::BET I CAN YOU JERK! >:O {{Unsigned|Suicidalangel}}
:::You'll always beat me in failing to sign your posts :P -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 16:04, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
::::I blame the Fire Fox being laggy in 7. But god seven fixed so many of my vista problems. MY shitty desktop actually shuts down now! o: --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 16:08, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hey, I've noticed the lag thing aswell... It's gotten a bit better lately though. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 11:21, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

==Deletions==
It's not a scheduled deletion, ''and'' is required under admin guidelines. I suggest you undelete them or face a misconduct case for deleting things without going through the proper channels. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 08:12, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:I was actually going to do that too, who am I kidding, I'm a slave to the rules =D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 08:14, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
::Bleh. I'm going to keep them deleted... I stand by them being a product of the spambot's actions and if I have to face a misconduct case over it, then I shall. For consolation, I won't hold it against you. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 08:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:::I fixed it for you. Typos are still okay right?--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 15:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

== Seems like ==

..[[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#User:DanceDanceRevolution|drama still pervades this wiki]]. --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 18:30, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

:He was a bad boy and is being sent to the Tower for his crimes against his sovereign! -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 18:45, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:It happens, and there's been worse out there. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 21:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
::The Tower scares me. It's full of bad people. :( 
::Did you know RHCP are back from hiatus? Where's Link? Brainstock was moved! I couldn't find a pumpkin and there's another [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#User:DanceDanceRevolution_.282.29|misconduct case]]. Why is Berlusconi still alive? I need to know. --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 14:03, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah I heard they came back, not awaiting anything decent though. God knows how Frusciante and Flea could play with The Mars Volta and still create such drab pop for RHCP :*( --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 23:47, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
::But without Stadium Arcadium we'd have never had [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFmtr5SnsWE this]. Can't you imagine the loss? --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 00:05, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow... That almost makes it worth it! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:10, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

== Images ==

Is there a way to shrink an image that I already uploaded on the wiki?  --{{User:Dark Blue Helmet/Sig}} 23:54, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
:You can freely shrink or enlarge (uglyness warning) images by appending a pipe and then a desired width in pixels. For example,  <nowiki>[[Image:Cat3uw.gif|100px]]</nowiki> doubles that image's size from its default 50x50 px to 100x100. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 00:13, 14 November 2009 (BST)
::Thanks.  --{{User:Dark Blue Helmet/Sig}} 00:15, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

== Project Mentor ==

Hello there DDR.  I'm fairly new to UD and more so to the wiki.  However, I have an interest in contributing.  My primary interest at the moment is adding fiction to some of the more boring (read: blank) building descriptions.  This may at some point expand in a nonfiction direction, but I see that there are many rules, not all of which I'm fully grasping (mainly formatting).  So, if Project Mentor is still on going, I'd like having somewhere to go for guidance.  I freely admit to be really new; however, I like to think (possibly incorrectly) that I'm not a total moron. --[[User:Captdrett|Captdrett]] 02:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
:If you haven't started blanking shit on purpose or being a dick for the hell of it then you're not a moron. Anyway, I'll say it for him, he'll gladly help you out with anything you might need help with, though he is rather busy lately. And if he decides to be a dick and refuse to help you, I'll verbally bitch slap him and then help you myself if desired. :D --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 02:56, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
:Did someone say an interest in making stubs more interesting? Why head right on over to [[ALiM]] and get de-stubizing goodsir boulevard! {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey! Well, basically, we have a couple of documents about how to write a more uniform building history/description [[UDWiki:Location Style Guide|here]] and (to a lesser extent) [[UDWiki:Style Guide|here]], but generally a more simplified mentality to keep is:
*Be exciting, it doesn't have to be based on truth, you can make up names and dates and events which led to the location's creation or importance.
*Write like you would if you were writing an encyclopaedic article for Wikipedia or something; ie, neutral point-of-view etc.
*Try not to promote your group or character in it unless it's based off some in-game truth, or you might run into some enemies who want their name alongside yours :/
*Seriously, have fun. If you want to have some examples of how far you can push the 'non-serious' aspect of the content, check out [[ALiM]] and some of the location descriptions they've written. They tend to enjoy pushing the boundaries a bit.

And remember that when you're doing this, as long as you mean well, you won't get into any trouble. The worst that will happen is someone will just change your wording or sentences around so they don't offend or anything. 

Good luck! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 11:19, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

==Strike time==

I am hearby requesting a striking of a ban from my vandal record as i have reached the requirements as per policy. I will be placing this request on an assortment of your peers talk pages so as to insure that this time, my striking isn't mysteriously postponed so as to further tarnish my record despite no wrong doing on my part. {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:43, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
:Except for the vandalism in question, of course. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 09:29, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
::And you're actually 3 edits short of a striking. Hurry and and spam a bit more =D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 11:59, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
:::lolwut hows this {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:::oh iscariot got it, sometimes i feel like i'm just not needed around this ol' place anymore.... {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:00, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::::You aren't. And you were three short numbnuts, how hard is it for you to grasp this. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 09:19, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::I know you're new to the whole sysop thing, so just a tip from an old hand: when you're moving a comment from an admin page to a talk page you should take the comment it was in response to (where applicable) with it, just for context you know. I'm sure you'll get the hang of the whole thing in no time! If you need anymore help just drop by [[User talk:J3D|my talk page]] and i'll be happy to help you out or direct you to someone who can! {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:26, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::I am not obliged to help you and your stupid comment in any way, it was deliberate and if you want the context kept you can take the liberty of putting it ''and'' the comment you are replying to on the talk page in the first place. Good luck in the future. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 09:30, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Oh lets not get ahead of ourselves here! I didn't mention obligation, i merely said that to improve the user friendliness of the wiki and save your fellow wikizens time and hassle you can make a copy of the comment being replied to and take that to the talk page too. Just something to think about. {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:37, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::It wouldn't save them hassle- for it to hassle them they'd want to give a crap about what you had to say in the first place. Just something to think about. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 09:45, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Now you've just got me confused as to why you bothered to move the comment at all....wouldn't be personal would it? {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:13, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Anyone could have made that comment and I would have moved it- it was unnecessary and the case was well dead. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 10:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well then i guess we'll just have to, "agree to disagree"! {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:20, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah guess so. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 10:39, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, you should have moved a copy of the comment he responded to DDR. I spent longer than I should have had to trying to figure out what he was talking about. :/ It's common courtesy to rest of the wiki. If yo can't do that then I ask you to leave the comments alone. ---[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 15:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:if yuo cant lern to spel n use gramer then i ask u to leave the Save page button aloan {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 15:58, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:If jed has shit all intention of following the rules then the ones moving his comment shouldn't feel as obliged as you think we should. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 21:13, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::w/e--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 21:49, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

== Drama ==

Grr, I knew that this would come up. I did more drama because you guys told me to, and now you want less drama? Where's goldilocks when you need her. :P --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 13:12, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:Perhaps, but drama experience is only needed for those possibly drawn to it, and granted, I hadn't established this overall pro-rooster stance when you initially asked me all those eons ago. Sorry. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 13:17, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::Nah, don't worry. I agree that nowadays, we need less active drama-ish sysops, and a lesser need to attract it. Ah well.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 13:18, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:::It's not a case of more drama less drama, it's how you reacted when there WAS drama.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 15:49, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

== Category: Groups ==
I commented about this on SAs [[User_talk:Suicidalangel#Category:Groups|talk page]].  And you mentioned you might know something about fixing it.  When you get a chance can you elaborate either here, SAs page, or mine?  Thanks!--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 16:49, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:Heya. I fixed [[:Category:Groups]] so it only had proper categories and not group's own categories, but upon looking at SA's talk that was never the problem... If you are wondering about why the subcategories don't show alphabetically, it is because of the template [[Template:subcat]] which can prioritise the category over the ones done manually. Long story, don't know how it works but that's just what it does I guess. As for subcategories disappearing, I don't know what you mean. When I remove [[:Category:Groups]] from a page and replace it with [[:Category:Survivor Groups]] or [[:Category:Zombie Groups]] then it always appears in the latter. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 21:57, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::Excellent.  Thank you for fixing category groups.  I see that it doesn't require magic sysop buttons to do so I fixed a few other groups, as well. [[:Category:Full-Custom_Gospel|1]],[[:Category:E.R.T.|2]],[[:Category:Galaxy_News_Radio|3]],[[:Category:Indian/Pakistani_Leftovers|4]].

::So I understand now how categorizing is ''supposed to work.''  Yet there is this one nagging issue of bringing a category out of one subcategory into a larger category.  For example, try adding [[:Category:Noise_Abatement_Societies]] to [[:Category:Groups]].  I'm not saying it necessarily belongs there (though there is an argument to be made).  In theory all you have to do is remove the zombie groups category and add the groups category.  But look how it stubbornly doesn't appear in [[Template:subcat]] under Category:Groups.  Perhaps a further examining of subcat is in order.  Anyways thanks for your help and experience, as usual.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 16:14, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
:::But it appears as it is supposed to appear: not at the start like [[Template:subcat]] is supposed to do, but rather alphabetically with all the other groups. Speaking of which, I didn't notice there were so many other groups in Category:Groups. Might have to clean them up soon. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 22:15, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

In my attempts to give the categories some semblance of structure and sense, the idea would be to remove any groups pages in the category and have them appear only in their specific sub-groups. Category:Groups would then mostly be a listing of these different subgroup categories with almost no articles.

You can then avoid all the nonsense with subcat and the wiki's poor sorting as well and making things easier to search. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 16:50, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

== Unmerged locations as a scheduled deletion? ==

I suggested adding unmerged locations pages as a [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Scheduling#Scheduling_requests_under_consideration|scheduled deletion]] a few days ago, but it is yet to be commented on. I'm guessing it got buried under other edits before anyone saw it :/

Just wanted to give you and anyone else reding this a heads up.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 00:16, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
:You put them on the main page's news so people vote on it, silly :D
:But yes, I did see it at the time, I was just making up my mind at the time and got a little sidetracked by other chores. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:19, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
::Whoops. Silly me. I knew I was forgetting to do something. I go add it rig- beat me to the punch. Thanks!--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 00:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

== [[P.L.A.]] ==

You recently contacted me on the group page([[P.L.A.]]) about moving it. I have taken it into consideration and would like you to move it for me. I am extremely new to wiki so if you could get back to me about this it will be greatly appreciated.--{{User:Patrick MacManus/Sig}} 01:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
:It turns out there is already a group by the name of [[People's Liberation Army]] :( But I can move it to [[PLA]] or anything else you'd like. Sorry about that. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 02:45, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
::Lurker time. Given that the pre-existing group is wildly inactive, why not move it to [[People's Liberation Army (2008 founding)]] and have the new group at [[People's Liberation Army (2009 founding)]] (or words to that effect), with [[PLA]] (and/or [[P.L.A.]]) being disambiguation page(s)? Also, apparently here be brackets. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:54, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

== Redirect Fix ==

Can I actually fix the redirect on my own?  I thought I would need sysop powers to do that since I cannot actually get to the page in question.  Would I have to locate the code on the destination page and remove that? --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 06:54, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
:Example: Go to [[P.L.A.]] It will take you to [[People's Liberation Army]]. Look under the title of the article and it has the (redirected from [[P.L.A.]]) there. Same as every page. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 06:59, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
::Ah. Well I feel rather sheepish now. Thanks (and sorry for the silly move requests)! --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 07:06, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Nah, it's cool =D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 07:29, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


==Top of the new talk page==
I win.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:57, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
:[[Image:Emot-argh.gif]] --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

== First! ==

<big><big><big><big><big><big><nowiki>ಠ_ಠ</nowiki></big></big></big></big></big></big> --{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 23:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
:[[Image:Emot-hurr.gif]] --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 00:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)






{{hyperbig|>.<}}--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 00:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)



==I win==
Thanks to HTML--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 00:18, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:I could win by altering the floating box code to go over it, but can't be bothered so :P -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 00:23, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

It's obviously not considered standard if people keep going "against" because of how many are running. And you know damn good and well that saying it's not a vote in bold was needed. >:( --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 00:33, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

==Noes==
I winz :P -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 00:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

== A/A ==

I noticed this particular line on the [[A/AG]] page (under "How to Arbitrate"):


4. Between them, the involved users choose an arbitrator 
*The people in the case can choose any user of the wiki, be them listed in the Current Arbitrators list or not. 
*You can see how an arbitrator has conducted their previous cases at Category:Arbitration Cases. 
*'''If no arbitrator is agreed upon, one will be chosen by the administration team.'''


There is still no timeline of any kind (or precedent that I know of) as far as when the administration team chooses an arbitrator. But there does appear to be something on the wiki addressing it, if a little vague. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 09:02, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:History is tangled. Look at the archive for the number of cases abandoned, sorted by users involved, sent to vandalism, etc. As for precedent, (someone) was trying to set up an archive of particularly ground breaking VB and Misconduct cases, but I can't remember who.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:30, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::Nubis on Izzy? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 13:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Yonnua put [[User:Yonnua_Koponen/precedent|this]] together.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 14:21, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Nah, that's rubbish. it certainly isn't what they're talking about.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 16:05, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::That line should be removed, I did once as it's complete shit made up by Hagnat attempting to claw more power when no-one was looking but either Karek or SA reverted it on the grounds that I'd made the change, subtly ignoring the fact that they were sysops and I was right... -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 20:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
:Hmm.. The thing is I would refrain from choosing any sort of arbitrator. Not only because I am indirectly an involved party, but also because I think the case is ridiculous. Might have to get another op to intervene, because the only outcopme I would push for is the closure of the case, or an arbitrator who encompasses that. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 15:56, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::We seriously fucking need to get something sorted to deal with dipshits who think they can cheat the system by doing the sort of thing you're endorsing right there. If the case is so blatantly ridiculous then I'm sure it'll be thrown out - so that "oh what a shit case look at how bad and horrible it is welp guess I'll just fuck with the system instead of taking the risk that I might lose such a "shit" case" crap is really just a bunch of empty posturing. peace {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:34, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:::What he said^.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 19:40, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Ugh...you guys really think I should accept one of Iscaridiot's candidates :/ ? I dunno at this point, I don't think it's a good idea to let Iz believe that he can try to just overthrow every arby case he doesn't like. Though, judging by his lack of activity in the case, I don't think he has enough time or interest to really pursue the case, but is to stubborn to withdraw.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:18, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::I wasn't lying when I said Revenant was the best offer Iscariot gave.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 20:27, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm not actually on the Arbitratot list, though. For a reason. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 10:04, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::And you never suspected that's why I'm pushing for Thad to pick you without asking? I might have had a plan you know. >:| --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 18:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::lolwhat? I'm bad at guess games like that >.< --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 18:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::It's because you and SA are incompatible >=D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 23:24, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Don't make me abandon all hope yet, =( --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 11:36, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Next time you have a plan involving me playing along, you might want to tell ''me'' that. <tt>:P</tt> {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 13:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::NEXT TIME READ MY MIND THEN. >:| --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 20:50, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just give him his own treatment and drag it out as long as possible. Remember that you are the one with the optimum outcome if the case returns with null result, given Izzy is the one wanting the changes. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 10:00, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::Wrong, disputed edit, as the rulings are disputed they don't apply. Therefore J3D is well within his rights to put you, Bob and anyone else he likes on any of his pages with any description. If MonsieurZerger was actually all about getting your case sorted, he'd be all about making his own representation as to why he was a fit and deserving arbitrator. We all know that he wasn't and that he can't defend his conduct to a competent judge. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 20:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

== moronical ==

Aaw and I thought you liked me :(
Especially harsh as it was your idea to nominate him in the first place... --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 14:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
:Despite being the lowest form of wit, sarcasm is often my tool so be used to it. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 23:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Add a weapon to your page or I shall remove the category from it!--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 21:39, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
:I have a userpage with a monster, two dancing kittens and Clint Eastwood... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 23:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
::AND NONE OF THOSE ARE EXPLICIT WEAPONS YOU MORAN!--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 00:32, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Clint Eastwood. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 00:47, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
::::He's close. Very close. But the gun that is hard to see in the thumbnail covers it. You're fine my friend.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 01:03, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

== [[:Category:Speedy_Deletion_Candidates]] ==

D: --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 23:34, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
:Danke --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 14:53, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
::And Link's sandbox? :0 --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 01:08, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh. It's been there for ages, for some reason the template's always on his sandbox. I think it's because he's arked it. We don't delete that, we owe more to our beloved Link! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 01:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

That is all. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:52, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

== Question (again) ==

Would pages like [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:Pyxzer/1&redirect=no this] count as a user redirect? It's a redirect in his namespace, leading to another page in the same namespace. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 00:54, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:Nah. Redirect pages that are in the namespace to begin with, don't count. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 00:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:If ya' look at the edit summary, he was testing things, so let him be for now.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 00:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::Let him be... for now? There isn't anything we can do anyway :/ --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 00:58, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:::For now because if he starts vandalising teh wiki we bring out the banhammer. KKK?--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 01:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::::You can always have a drink and relax. {{User:Pyxzer/sig}} 01:07, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::I know he was testing something. That's why I came here to ask about it instead of directly to him :P --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 01:07, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 01:09, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

== Ummm... ==

What do you think of [[WWSIS|this]]? I honestly can't tell if it's a survivor group, political spam, or an advert (the "forum link" is definately the latter).--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 08:52, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:Impressive. Contacting them via IRC now. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 09:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::No reply, but it appears they are definitely a survivor group so I'm classifying it as such. As for the add, well, I guess we'll see what's the score. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 10:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

==dude==
chill {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
:ban me! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 13:36, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
::I took the whole effort of waking SA to do it, I gave him the links even, and he fell asleep on the keyboard before he could even click the button... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 13:37, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
:::No lie, I was sleeping on my keyboard. :/ --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 23:32, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

==...==
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User%3AMisterGame&diff=1614501&oldid=1614500 You], you dare to defy my skill of English grammar!? >:o --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 13:44, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
:I was going to offer you a rap battle in your language of choice, but I quickly chose against it. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 13:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
::Rap is <s>teh</s> shit...Thanks though. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 13:55, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I guess I may have just found something I like about you after all ;D Seriously though, Christmas UDWiki rap anyone? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 22:30, 2 December 2009 (UTC) --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 22:30, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Thad, take him DDR VB. GET HIS ASS BANNED :D --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 00:31, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

==Also==
Good afternoon!--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 23:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

== Your opinion please ==

Hey there.  We've been talking about the location images category.  I'd like to get your opinion on [[User:Giles_Sednik/Sandbox3#test|this template]].  It would go on the [[:Category:Location Images|location image page]] and replace the current subcat template.  I'm wondering if you think this is useful and how you feel about it aesthetically.  Thanks!--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 00:03, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:It's nice, and very useful. Hit that shit up. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 00:05, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::lolz >_<  .  Mmmbokay.  But I'm not sure if I have the editing privileges to remove the subcat template.  In fact I'm sure I don't.  I'll give you a link to the template after I create a page for it.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 00:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Editing privileges? Unless the pages are protected you have every right and opportunity to edit a page in good faith... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 00:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeh it must be protected or something.  I can't even see the subcat template on the page.  Anyhoo, here is a link to the [[Template:Location_Images|finished template]].  If you can hit that shit up I'll give you a cookie!--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 00:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'm not exactly sure what you mean. If you are looking to eliminate the instance of subcategories on [[:Category:Location Images]], you do so by going to the categories themself and changing <nowiki>{{subcat|Blah Blah}} to [[category:Blah Blah]]</nowiki> manually. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 00:29, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ahhhh. I see.  Well, this whole time I thought that there was some mysterious hidden subcategory template in play that I couldn't see.  But in fact, the listing of subcategories was merely a result of the wiki doing what the wiki does to categories.  Buahahah.  *slaps forehead*.  Okay kewl.  Thanks for your help, it's been nice getting feedback from you on this little project.  Looks like it's time for phase 3.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 00:43, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Np, good luck. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 00:44, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Speaking of which.  If you feel inclined, I'd appreciate you're opinion [[Category_talk:Location_Images|here]].  And I'll give you a cookie anyway, but I'm going to ambush you with it, when you're least suspecting...--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 01:35, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

== Promotions ==

:''Re: [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FPromotions&diff=1612814&oldid=1612810 your comment]''.
Exactly. See [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Revenant/Sysop%3F analysis]. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 14:13, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:I've read it plenty before, and every time I, as well as the rest of the community, feels compelled that you actually wrote that bile under the assumption that you could have just "gotten in" without having done any work or input into the wiki for so long. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 23:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::Which, in retrospect, would make my point even more understandable: not only would you have no idea of what it's like to be a wiki op, but you also have most likely forgotten what it's like to be involved in hard work with the wiki, at all. Your "reasons" not to ask for promotion were null and void just a few months ago, after the [[A/RE]] purge of sysops there was a 3 month block where Boxy, Cyberbob and I were the only active ops, and we needed all the help we could get, hence why we brought SA back and Ross, but the point is, you wouldn't have even been present enough to ''notice'' we needed ops, let alone consider yourself for the job. You have such a misguided and dated opinion on Administration in regards to yourself and others that it haunts me. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 23:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I ''did'' wonder what you were getting at. Guess now I know? Thanks for being yet another UDWiki sysop convincing me not to bother with it or the associated drama. <tt>;)</tt> {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 08:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Hmm... I guess you're right then. Hmm --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 08:38, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
::::ohnoddrhasdoneaterriblethingtoday. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:28, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::That boy needs therapy. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 13:55, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm gonna kill you... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:59, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You're a nut! You're crazy in the coconut! {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:56, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Okay, seriously, don't get me started, as a friend on Last.fm, you are more than capable of seeing how much of a MASSIVE avalanches fan I am :D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 13:48, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::He'd get more support than Red Hawk One did, and would lie less. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 23:12, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::He'd get more support than Iscariot would, and would lie less. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 23:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::When did Red Hawk One lie? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::::He said he'd stay out of the drama sections, but has had some minimal presence there already. Iscariot made a point of pointing it out when it first happened. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ahahahahah Iscariot is literally an Archivist. brb editing my list {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Necromancer? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 23:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::::[[UDWiki:Administration/Sysop_Archives/DanceDanceRevolution/2009-11-29_Misconduct|see said dummy spit on open-and-shut case]]. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 23:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Cry as much as you'd like, said one thing, did another. Liar. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 23:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm the one crying? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 23:26, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:29, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I'd back up my offers with arbitration rulings.... -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 23:15, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::::I'd take people to misconduct when I promised to... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 23:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::No you don't. You know clearly that Boxy committed misconduct but won't bring it. Also, I seem to remember getting you banned through misconduct for not being able to read.... -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 23:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hmm? I never promised to. Just waiting on you to fulfil your promise. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 23:26, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

{{Drama}}
{{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:28, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:This template. I love it. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:32, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::Agree. I must remember to use that more often. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 08:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

== Here... ==

<center>
{| style="border:solid 2px #FFA500; margin: 0 2em 0 2em; text-align: left; width: 370px"
|rowspan=2|[[Image:DDR.jpg|150px]]‎||style="background:#FFA500; color: white; text-align: center; width: 100%"|'''A <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue Mary Sue]</span>! And it's for you!'''
|-
|style="font-size: 90%; text-align: center; width: auto"|[[User:Iscariot|Iscariot]] has given [[User:DanceDanceRevolution|DDR]] a pointless Mary Sue because if he insists on having no taste, he can be stuck with what no-one else wants.
|}
</center>
-- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 01:22, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:I lol'd--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 01:33, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:Fine by me =D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 01:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:idgi {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 02:09, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
::IRC. DDR <3's mary sues.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 02:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:::k {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 02:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

And given I've just had to give ZL a dose, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUH3B1lPvYM&fmt=18 this] is what DDR says no to in preference to his Mary Sue. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 01:15, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

== Do you know... ==

... what your mum and a vacuum cleaner have in common? They both suck, blow and get laid in the closet.[[User:Axel27|Axel27]] 09:18, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:Awww. It's okay to be butthurt. I understand. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 11:06, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::I'm slightly worried that he's having sex with his vacuum cleaner. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:10, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Don't be. You're still unique. No one else has to have sex with a vacuum cleaner to understand how it works.[[User:Axel27|Axel27]] 13:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

== WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!?!? ==

You just deleted a bunch of images... Post One, Part One,.... Post One, Part Two, a private message. I used those images.... they were linked to '''[[Talk:Extremely Vengeful and Irksome Laymen/KOS List/Lockettside|here]]''', and without them, it could change a lot of things. I would ask that you please undelete those screenshots for me. It's not like they weren't being used, weren't linked too, and weren't catagorized. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 13:17, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, they were unused, according to [[Special:Unusedimages]]. Images can not be undeleted. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::He had linked to them, but they weren't in use on the page.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 13:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::<nowiki>[[:Image:Example.jpg]]</nowiki> Doesn't show up as linked, <nowiki>[[Image:Example.jpg]]</nowiki> Do. Thats where the mistake was made. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:21, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::He linked to their edit pages; look at the links more closely. If he had linked to the actual image pages they wouldn't have been on the Unused list. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:21, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Wrong. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:26, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::Text linked images show up as unused. If you want to link to screenshots, use an image hosting site <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 13:22 5 December 2009 (BST)</small>
:::No, they don't. Read my previous post please. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Hardly. Boxy is right. Don't know what ''you're'' drinking tonight, Bob. If an image is only linked via what Ross specifies above, then they show up as unused. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:26, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Here's an idea; maybe you could try not posting instead of posting when you feel like being so snippy towards someone who is on your side? I'm wrong, oh no, better get in with a shot!! {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:30, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::I don't ''need'' you on my side, dude. I'm just saying your wrong, because you are, and for the sake of Poodle's understanding. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:33, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Saying that I'm wrong is fine - I'm glad that you did. But don't be so quick to get malicious for "the lulz". {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:38, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I'm sorry- I didn't intend to. I just thought something was up if our resident "unused deletor" didn't know about it, I guess.  --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Long story short, these were deleted as a regular maintenance action and they can't be undeleted by myself because I didn't save them myself before deleting them, understandably. You can only remedy this by re-uploading them and then arking them yourself, Poodle. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:28, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:nice edit summary fagmo but I was talking to everyone durrrprprprprprprprprle {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:31, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::So? You have an amazing tendency to find THE most unserious phrases I say, and then make sure they are the ''only'' comments I ever say that you address seriously. Nice work! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:34, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::sorry d00d but that one's getting pretty worn out {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:39, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Such a concept is regardless if it's nothing less than true. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Regardless,... A simple click of "What Links Here" would of shown all this right? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 13:29, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:Depends on how you see it. We have, say, 5 unused images every day we have to delete. Every ''day''. 90% as useless and unused as the next. When sysops have such a job for a couple of years, they start to ignore such obligatory actions such as checking "what links here", especially when it isn't in the required criteria for deletion. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:31, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::Haha, like you're in any position to be taking the tired old veteran line with unused image deletions. I never knew about the text linking not affecting the Unused list; I certainly plan on checking What Links Here for any image I delete in future. It's just common sense. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:33, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm just saying. Coming from someone who used to enter IRC and openly contemplate deleting images a week ahead of their scheduled date, this is all very amusing. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::::And u tok me seirosly????? Llflldfololololrolf {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:38, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::sorry d00d but that one's getting pretty worn out --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Such a concept is regardless if it's nothing less than true. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:51, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I need to sleep now, go cry yourself through more A/D/S requests in the meantime ;D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 13:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::heh . niec little smile you got there! {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 14:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::You two really ought to get a room or something. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 16:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::hehe, a quality post from our resident Neutral Yet Amused Bystander|||\ {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
oh by the way the main reason i havent done much apart from unused images over the last few weeks is because im doing certain thingsi rl that mean i dont have somuch time for literlaly everything on wiki. should be beter after new years thouh, so dont u worry a singl hair on that head of your! {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 14:03, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:Awesome!!! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 14:06, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I thought people knew that text linked images didnt count as they being in use. Next time stick the image in a image ark or something, and it wont get deleted. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 16:39, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Gee,... I didn't know at the time that this was a requirement. Like bob, I didn't know a text link would make it come up as unused. A simple check of "What links here" would of seemed more than appropriate. As for not having the time,.... tough shit. That's your fucking job. You knew that when you signed up for it. Deal with it. If you didn't want to look into that sort of shit, you shouldn't of signed up. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 05:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:There is nothing in the job of deleting "unused images" that requires me to babysit long term users like you to save their unused images from getting deleted- to the contrary I say '''tough shit''' to you, you militant parasite. You so heavily try and convince us that "you are smart" but you so often prove otherwise. You didn't know the system and it bit you. Learn the rules or fucking deal with the consequences. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 05:41, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::i am hard man. hard man rawr {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 05:51, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::No I want the last (or unnecessary first) word! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 05:52, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::LOOK AT ME A I CAN BE A TOTAL ASSHOLE TO PEOPLE TOO--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 06:06, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::FUCK YEAH BEIN GAN ASSHOLE IS COOL ALL TH EOOL KIDS ARE ASSHOLES 24/7 {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 06:12, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::OH GOD NO WONDER PEOPLE DON'T LIKE ME!--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 06:12, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Less butthurt please :/ --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:14, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::dumb comeback, soz {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 06:18, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::What would I need to make a comeback for? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You're the only one that can answer that question. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 06:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::It was rhetorical, you fucking retard. What say instead of stalking my talk page you get off your fucking arse and do something for the wiki? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:23, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::~fartz~ there i just equalled your total contribution for the last 2 weeks {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 06:24, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Nice imaginary comeback. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::So you going to answer the question or just keep working on failing you eventual A/RE? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:28, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Wait, so that question wasn't rhetorical??? btw holding A/RE over my head like that is steering pretty dangerously close to using your crat spot as leverage, ta {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 07:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::You mean like deleting an image before it was due, because to delete it as a speedy it can't have a keep vote?--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 06:25, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::...You drunk? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::You can schedule delete an image, yes. But not if it's in the middle of a vote already, and when it has a keep. Sure, ross would have changed it to delete as soon as he noticed. But I'm just telling you, watch out for slip ups like that.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 06:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::...I never did this??? :////// --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Oh look I actually did. Nvm. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::The retard down there started it- I don't consider it such a daft mistake to assume a wiki user from 2007 would know how the systems work. Especially since we have a score of gnomes on the wiki, who spend 70% of their time here talking about this exact stuff. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:14, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, he's been here since june or july-ish. Back when he joined in 07 he did hardly snything. So he's really only been here, what 5-ish months? Yep, 2 years. And not everyone knows that images that are just linked count as unused, as bob demonstrated. It doesn't say it in any official documents, if I recall correctly. As I said, I considered it standard procedure to check what links here, obviously it's not such a far out thought to think ops would check it just to make sure it's completely unused. But yes, just keep piling abuse on him.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 06:20, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::god you'rs such a dumb fucking cunt lern the rules or deal w/ teh consequencxes fucken militant parasite ;;;tough shit;;; {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 06:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Look, it ain't my fault the only job you could ever uphold in this wiki turned to shit once you found out that you didn't have a whole 50% understanding of the job in the first place, but please take it out on someone else. Or the wiki, preferably. It'd be nice to see you do work again and not just behave like you did when Grim was around. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:27, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::It'd be nice to see you not be a cunt to everyone who doesn't understand things. Like you used to be.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 06:33, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I was a cunt because he was behaving like such a reactionary retard in relation to the whole affair that he needed a bit back to put him into place. He is capable of defending himself you know. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Reactionary my ass. He's said two things. One was the original complaint. The other is where he asks why something so simple and what should be standard didn't reveal it was in use. You've been more reactionary than him.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 06:38, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::And you've been even more reactionary than I have :/ --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:39, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::My bad, three. Not feeling well. and the third bit, he told you what was true. If you dont' have time to do something, don't do it and let someone else take care of it. Oh, and no. I haven't.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 06:40, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::It's only true if I don't have the time to do what is required of the job at hand- oh wait, I did exactly what was specified about the job in question, no corner cutting or rule disobeying. And you are. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::The job at hand involves you checking to make sure it's entirely unused. You obviously didn.t as for the next part, look at all that anery bits 'o text up there. You've been more reactionary than I have, if not simply because you've been here ranting longer.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 06:48, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::That's because I've had self righteous retards yelling at me for 12 hours over it- and you've only involved yourself as said retard for the last 2 hours. And I'll take your advice on doing jobs properly once I see you do some at all, thanks. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Har har, we're all self-righteous now. Yep. Avoid everything and just call us self-righteous because, lo and behold, you're way of doing things isn't entirely correct. And nice jab at me doing anything, logs show I do some work around here. And at least when I do, I generally do it right.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 07:01, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Its as simple as when the only two people who make a stink about this (besides the original user) are the two fucking most lazy, useless, disrespectful sysops in the team, I prefer to listen to the advice of those that take this place seriously and whom I respect, eg. Boxy. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 07:05, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Wow. Since when am I lazy or useless? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 07:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Couple months now. Since when you went inactive for a couple of weeks and decided to come back behaving like you did when you and I were the bottom rung of this wiki in 2008. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 07:11, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::LMAO. Try one month, and most of that period was taken up by exams. I was doing like 75% of all deletions on the wiki back in late October/early November. I would be doing more now except there just doesn't seem to be as much to do as there used to be. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 07:14, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::Well, if it makes you feel any better, I think that mindlessly replying and stalking my talk page is a perfect substitute for not having much to do. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 07:16, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::If you'd stop being such an arrogant cunt none of this would have happened, just saiyan (my involvement would have ended at the point where I was proven wrong about the text links if you hadn't gone and spewed all that filth at Poodle) {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 07:18, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::Similarly, if you were more interested in going outside when nothing's on instead of taking up the self-righteous role in something where it isn't needed, it wouldn't have happened anyway. TIA. I originally was to have a nap an hour ago but was stopped by this because of my compulsion to get the last word, but now I'm a little meh on it so I'll give it to you this once. See ya later. You fucking dumb poo eating asian cunt. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 07:23, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::U drunk mad, or just mad mad? >:) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:09 6 December 2009 (BST)</small>
:::::::::::::::::Waiting for faggots to get off my talk page so I can catch up on the 2 days I've missed on RC monitoring. Faggots just wont' give me a chance- its that simple. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 07:11, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Disrespectful? Take a look at yourself mate. You want to say I've changed, because I'm a little bit funner and nicer in general? Look at you. You've went from a decent yet still polite sysops to a complete faggot. Get off your throne, it doesn't suit you.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 07:16, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Awww, so 24 hour bouts of PMS don't cut it with you anymore? You really have changed! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 07:23, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

==whats been happening==

seems like some drama or smoething....fill me in?{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:Just a lot of QQing, same old. Sept I'm now the evil bad grimguy. =D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:40, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::Good - i prefer grim to the old you so maybe i'll like this new one. Now if i suck up to you can i feature even more in bucenews/the promo vid?{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah! You can even be an op too- since Bob has become the standard for low-class admins. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 06:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::I prefered it when i was teh standard :( {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::hm yes. i m teh lowclass. 
::::"''There is nothing in the job of deleting "unused images" that requires me to babysit long term users like you to save their unused images from getting deleted- to the contrary I say tough shit to you, you militant parasite. You so heavily try and convince us that "you are smart" but you so often prove otherwise. You didn't know the system and it bit you. Learn the rules or fucking deal with the consequences.''"
::::yerp {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 07:06, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::yerp! And to think it all came from me ''doing something'' for the wiki. Foreign to you, I know, but I still have hope oneday you'll find something here you're good at. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 07:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::I do plenty of work, actually. Stop talking out of your arse thanks in advance {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 07:09, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::: LOL --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 07:11, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

==shit, I'd be grumpy too==
User:DanceDanceRevolution‎; 18:24 . . (+10) . . DanceDanceRevolution (Talk | contribs | block) ('''been awake since thursday, sleepytines''')

get more sleep :( {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 07:34, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:Awww, he really hurted you, eh? ;( --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 09:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::let me know when you feel like coming out of puberty {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:25, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::::only because yur such a bastion of maturity yourself Bob! --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 09:48, 6 December 2009 (UTC) 
:::Bob...i love you sometimes. --{{User:The Colonel/Sig}} 09:36, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah. I'm not an insomniac or anything, I've just had a crazy few days and it's taken its toll, obvs. Will be having a good nights sleep tonight though. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|SlateBlue|SlateGrey}}-- 09:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

==Well Done==

For noticing. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:Never will I think you are better than something like that stunt again =D '''<big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:Purple ">D</span>]]</big>'''<sup><small><u>ANCE</u></small></sup>'''<big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:SeaGreen ">D</span>]]</big>'''<sup><small><u>ANCE</u></small></sup>'''<big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:RoyalBlue ">R</span>]]</big>'''<sup><small><u>EVOLUTION</u></small></sup> <SMALL>([[User talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:DarkOrchid ">TALK</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:DarkOrchid ">CONTRIBS</span>]]) </small> 12:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
::I'm never better than that. We've got a guide that says zombies are too hard, a zerging group up for historical nominations, and for reasons I can't quite understand a massive resurgence in zombie numbers. Before chrismtas Ill get [[User:Rosslessness/Ethos]] written up and destroy the wiki with my ideas about all game aspects. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 12:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Kewl. '''<big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:DarkGreen">D</span>]]</big>'''<sup><small><u>ANCE</u></small></sup>'''<big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:DarkRed ">D</span>]]</big>'''<sup><small><u>ANCE</u></small></sup>'''<big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:Indigo">R</span>]]</big>'''<sup><small><u>EVOLUTION</u></small></sup> <SMALL>([[User talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:DarkOrchid ">TALK</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:DarkOrchid ">CONTRIBS</span>]]) </small> 12:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

== A/VB ==

Do I vote on cases I bring (such as with [[User:Cipherace]]), or stay out of it? Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but I don't really deal with this stuff that often.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 04:16, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
:You can warn a user from a case that you bring yourself, yes, and if you are so inclined you can vote on it too. '''<big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:DarkGreen">D</span>]]</big>'''<sup><small><u>ANCE</u></small></sup>'''<big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:DarkRed ">D</span>]]</big>'''<sup><small><u>ANCE</u></small></sup>'''<big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:Indigo">R</span>]]</big>'''<sup><small><u>EVOLUTION</u></small></sup> <SMALL>([[User talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:DarkOrchid ">TALK</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:DarkOrchid ">CONTRIBS</span>]]) </small> 04:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
:TA-DAH! The reason he should have never been promoted spelled out clearly. A user has three contributions, all of which you believe to be vandalism enough to create a case about. The idiot should have been perma banned before you even made the case and a note of your actions added directly to the page with the evidence. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 04:20, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
::Good thing he didn't though - the edits are obviously a newbie's mistakes. You can see from the diffs that he is in fact making "actual" edits, it's just that somehow he managed to wipe a heap of stuff from the pages at the same time. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 04:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
:::It's Izumi. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 04:27, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
::::How do you know? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 04:28, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Every vandal is Izumi. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 04:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::The adding of the Lockettside Valkyrites to the radio list is suspicious, but not conclusive. And there is no requirement for a sysop to permaban if they're unsure if it's warranted <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 04:44 8 December 2009 (BST)</small>

== Yummy! ==

{{Cookie|[[User:Maverick Farrant|Maverick]]|[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|DDR]]|reason=helping fix an inter-browser coding fiasco!}}

Muchas gracías, señor. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 09:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
:Ty, just make sure Aichon's cookie was bigger =] <small><span style="border:0px solid LavenderBlush;"><big><small><span style="background:WhiteSmoke">[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:SlateBlue">DanceDanceRevolution</span>]] ([[User talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:Purple">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:Purple">Contribs</span>]])</span></small></big></span></small> 09:27, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
::We don't have a BigCookie template, so he just got more text =P  --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 09:29, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

== Connecting ==
For some reason I couldn't connect to this specific site almost all day. Was there something with the server or wa?

Also, I miss the talkpage link in your new old sig. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 22:55, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
:Look at the 9-hour gap in Recent Changes. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
::As Cyberbob. And I don't think my old sig had a talkpage link... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:04, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Aww look, I did... Well, this sig is only temporary. I'm just getting something new before I find a permanent stylish one to adopt. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:05, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Ahh reminds me of the great wiki drought of 08.  Twas a dangerous time to be a wikizen it was. {{Survived}} {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

==teehee==
teehee {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 02:21, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

== Warning ==

[[Image:Stop_hand.png|left|35px]] Please do not attempt to weigh loaden swallows, as it may cause distress on their trip to Africa. Further criminal weighing will be met with a stern glance, possibly a glare. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 12:47, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:=O I was so sure I would get away with it... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:49, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

== Warning ==

[[Image:Stop_hand.png|left|35px]] Please do not archive promotion bids so soon. Others may want to comment on those cases. >:( --[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta">¯</span>]] 11:31, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:OH FYCJ IDD --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 12:30, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::IDK MY BFF JILL?--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta">¯</span>]] 12:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:::the thing is tif you unertstood 2hat iu meant, +2 to y dawg --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 12:48, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

::::I think I meant 'As If You Did" or somethingf " --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 12:50, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

== o.O ==

''A Speedy Deletion may be circumvented by a single vote of Keep under the request. If this occurs, the system operator shall move the Speedy Deletion request to the Deletion Request Queue, where the normal rules for Deletion of the page shall apply.''
--{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 14:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:I think it was because you moved them all. We put them all under the same header, yes, but decide on each on individually.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta">¯</span>]] 21:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::Oops. My bad. :/ --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 22:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:::It's alright. You know now though. :) --[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta">¯</span>]] 22:12, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, he voted keep on one and you moved them all :*( --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:06, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::Noes, there were 3 keeps :'( Three! Tre! Trois! Tres! Drei! I may have an obsessive-compulsive disorder. Drie! --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 23:28, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:::''Trí''. Is brea le gaeilge an mhicí. Níl brea leis an mhicí gaeilge? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC) 
::::Dang you and your Irish Gaelic I can't understand. :( --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 18:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah but they don't need to go to deletions =] --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:30, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::Why? :/ --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 23:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:::You spelled the second drei wrong.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta">¯</span>]] 23:31, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::::[http://www.forbeginners.info/dutch/numbers.htm No]. --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 23:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes. I. Am. Slightly. Dyslexic.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta">¯</span>]] 23:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

The header actually matches up perfectly right now! D: Anyway, retarded faggot sounds better. :/ --[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 00:12, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

==Group Confusion==
Um, you moved Operation:Asskick to the Wulves pag, but it's really a plan from The Survivor's Republic that coincides with a Wulves plan.--[[User:Sean Connolly|Sean Connolly]] 07:14, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry, that's my mistake. Look. Just edit it at will and I will move it in its current (and proper) state within the end of the night, in the state you leave it. Sorry for the mistake. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 12:14, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:Kay fixed. Sorry for taking so long. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:14, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Criteria 7 by proxy ==

After listening to some of the input, I feel that not only my request, but the entire criteria could use with some rewording. I'm thinking of reworing my request to expand the current criteria to include blankings, while ignoring templates and pages with inclusions. Do you have any input on this?

Also, should I let the current request run its course, or take it down and file the updated version sooner?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 03:05, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think blankings are necessarily the best idea, because imo the criterea of proxy crit 7's should require absolute confirmation that they want it deleted, not just wiping it. Honestly, I think it was fine the way it was but in your interests I would just withdraw it and replace it with an amended version. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:16, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

==><==
Just now noticed the mess up on that page in mah sig. I blame an edit conflict.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 02:19, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
:Aww okay. I thought you were just pushing my buttons >=[ --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 02:42, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
::Naw, if I wanted to do that, I'd change the way you struck my vote on the beards suggestion. ^^ --[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 10:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Grrr... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:05, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON A/VB YOU DRUNKEN MONKEY? j/k, but srsly O_O --[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 02:15, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
: I kinda wanna know too...I see edits in the +1,000 and -1,000 and then minor edits in the hundreds! ()_() --{{User:The Colonel/Sig}} 02:38, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
:Dude you vandalised me. You deserve to pay.  I dunno. You know me, I turn into angry user for a week or so then chillax for a month. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 02:53, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
::I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about all the mess ups and shit that's happened over it. Comment movages and shit, you know? Got me all cunfuzzled over it. >< --[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 08:35, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh. I was like being all nazi about unrelated discussion then I decided that it was worse to move the context of what we'd said over to talk, etc, etc. Don't know. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Except I'm an involved party, so my text would stay. :( --[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 08:46, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::There you go. I guess in respective ways we are both losing the plot >< --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:47, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm losing something with the way you're talking.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 08:49, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::: :( come on irc --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:52, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

== Return of the boot ==

Our old friend, the uggs bot, is back; it's struck twice within the past 6-8 hours. You were the one that contacted them the last time they spammed us; is it possible for you to get back in touch with the company and tell them to lay off?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 05:25, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
:Wasn't this the one we BOTH did? Or was that a different company? I don't 'member it.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 10:35, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
::That's right; I remember you sent an email or two out as well; either way, the folks at their advertizing department must have terrible short-term memory problems.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 14:47, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
:::If he strikes again, I'll give it a go. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:05, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

== Y'know ==

... what we were discussing on IRC a few days ago. Well I'll do it later on today, prolly <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 19:59 17 December 2009 (BST)</small>
:Okay. A double whammy would be a bit much, so I might wait and see how I go for a little bit. S'all yours. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:27, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
::No problemo <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 23:56 17 December 2009 (BST)</small>

==Great Suburb Massacre 2010==
You get this message because you've expressed interest in contributing to the upcoming GSM. I have created [[User:Iscariot/GSM2010|a page]] in my user space so we can discuss the project and iron out any potential problems. Feel free to add any thoughts/questions/queries/improvements/random insults. Post directly on the main page, I've had the talk page protected to allow work to actually get done. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 07:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:I'll be happy to help out in whatever gets decided on- I have no qualms about the details or process if, in the end, the groups that shouldn't be on the pages aren't there any more. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 09:52, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

== I'm dissapointed in you ==

You'll plug for the R18+ classification which will <s>TURN OUR CHILDREN INTO ULTRAVIOLENT KILLERS</s> mean that the Australian classification system is less crap, but you won't plug for [http://nocleanfeed.com/ this?] Shame.

(hai, btw.) {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 15:24, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:I've even made a [[Template:NoCleanFeed|template]]. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 16:11, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
::I still live in the blind faith that even Clean Feed v2 will get thrown out as easily as Telstra threw out the original one. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 22:18, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:::True, and although Conroy seems fairly desperate to get it to pass, they'll have a hard time getting it through the Senate. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 00:19, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
::::I don't actually know anything about this one, I haven't bothered since the last time they tried this, the brutal slaying of it gave me hope for years to come >=D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::I don't know much about the original, but this one is pretty bad. I'll link to the blacklist, (it's on Wikileaks,) but Kevan would be slapped with an $11,000 fine (if the server was in Australia.) {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 00:25, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::I see. The first one was hugely unworkable. It would have cut all internet speed of all ISPs by a third and would cost more to run. Just random shit like that. It got huge coverage and wa a massive talking point until they tyried to implement it and Telstra literally just said no, then all other ISPs stood behind telstra and backed it up. Ily telstra. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:41, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I remember it now. Conroy's ignored the ISP's concerns and has basically said "fuck you, I'll implement it anyway." {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 01:59, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Thanks ==

[[Image:emot-argh.gif|center|YOU'RE WELCOME|750px]]

[[Image:Tongue Emoticon.gif]]<br/>
{{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:50, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

==Have you been getting enough sleep==
? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:11, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

== someone screwed up a bit ==

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Talk:777 Talk 777]. I don't think it was done intentionally, but rather accidentally. I had no clue if i should revise it all, seeing as how Taco removed her own comment, yet there was still the deletion of the other comment...and the no signing of the other comment too, so yea....I will leave this one in the hands of someone much wiser with wiki matters then I. --{{User:The Colonel/Sig}} 04:38, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for the heads up, I just reverted it back to before Taco touched the page. Would have probs just been a mistake. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 05:13, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

== MERRY CHRISTMAS! ==

{{Present}}
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:=O     <3 --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC)


:merry christmas pal, whats all this about my sig? {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:10, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
::nuthin ddr is dfum.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 09:11, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
also nmerry christmas you cunts--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 09:12, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Well i'm not banned so thats all that matters, gmail chat?{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:14, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

can you niggardly cunts stop fracking with one anothers edits and also ddr i'm tempted to report you for removing someone elses comments from my talkpage *angry face* p.s whats there fun to do around here atm? {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:21, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
:Did i remove someone's post from your talk page? sorry, was it that edit conflict one? i thouth that was my talk [page/. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 09:44, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
::Well you are a subpage of me, sothis is mine too technically. But when you removed the sig thing from mmy actual talk page you also removed SA's comment. I guess you guys are the same user, nubicdcc/J3Dnallan style so you probably forgot whos account you were in.{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:49, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
:::i just checked yout talk page history. it turns out my rambling about above was on ''my'' talk page... the one on your's probs won't fly but u can try that shits --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 09:52, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

==INTERESTING FACT==
cybey says if i joined the wiki a year before i did i would have been gone in a flash :( {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:21, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

oh and whats the number of talk page spam posts before its vandy? {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:23, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
:1. lol. 2. It sort of depends on the purpose. For example, users have been "not warned" because they spammed talk pages, but only to a certain group, ie. group pages, or only sysops, etc. Whilst others spam crap randomly and get warned for it. Depends on the context. If you are asking because of the guy who has been making christmas messages, I honestly don't think it'll fly as vandalism, he's just sending christmas spirit. =D aweeeesome --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 09:48, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
::I see, i see. {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:51, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

== Done ==

--<small>[[User:Rorybob|<span style="color: #FF9933">Rahrah</span>]]</small>[[UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat_Promotions#Suicidalangel|<sup>You know what to do.</sup>]] 20:54, 27 December 2009 (UTC)