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===Introduction===
===Introduction===
Zombie characters say that survivors have more advantages than them. If anything benefits survivors they expect some zombie thing that can counter it. This article is to highlight how they have an unbalanced advantage.
People Say zombies have an advantage. Here's Why. Litlle of this is true.


===Advantages starting out===
===Advantages starting out===
Zombies start the game with Vigour Mortis which gives them the ability to start getting xp with no trouble. They can already break barricades and kill survivors with no trouble.  (Yes I have had a zombie character)
Zombies start the game with Vigour Mortis which gives them the ability to start getting xp with no trouble.  


Survivors have to find a reliably vsb building to hide in when they start the game. In addition, they must acquire free running before they can find ammunition or useful supplies. When I started an account as a private I started outside some building, wandering around until I found a vsb church where I stayed for a while, searching for something useful. Finally I decided to use my pistol. Luckily I managed to get free running. Unless you're a firefighter ( tried an account as that too) you have to find items or inflict low damage. I also tried a scientific character, but the majority of zombies were already scanned.  
In this state a zombie can destroy a barricade level 17.5% of the time, or to open up a building thats VSB+2 using approximately 58ap.  


So zombies simply have an advantage starting out.
Of course then he can't get into the building anyway, because he can't open the door.


===Stats===
Plus he's probably been headshot, so there goes anoth 15 of his ap each day just standing up.  
A lot of zombies say that there are more survivors than zombies. From this, they claim survivors are more sucessful.


Here's the stats
Without Vigor this zombie would be able to open the same building using only 80ap. Does that sound fair?


Active Characters : 24245
Survivors Don't have to find a vsb safehouse. All of you go and create a private now. The game automatically spawns you outside a vsb building (Normally without zombies outside).


Standing Survivors : 9803 (51%)
Now create a police officer. Pychcically I will predict you appear in a powered vsb police station. Although Again I could be wrong. Lots of ammo here, more than enough for you to fill yourself up with the stuff and get freerunning.


Standing Zombies : 9266 (49%)
So zombies simply have an advantage starting out.


Dead Bodies : 3564
===Stats===
A lot of zombies say that there are more survivors than zombies. From this, they claim survivors are more sucessful.


Revivifying Bodies : 1612
Stats apparently mean nothing. So why include them.


Standing Zombie Hunters : 5747
===-kers===
 
Zombies may say there are more survivors, but how many of those people are actually benefiting the survivor cause?
Christmas Trees : 2


These stats don't tell everything. Those revivifying bodies may be people that have been revived zombie characters or fallen survivors. Those dead bodies could be survivors or zombies, so don't judge each faction's success with the number of characters on their side.
I have a theory that at least 50% of survivor characters actually fight against survivors.  


===-kers===
Zombies actually have much less troubles than survivors, limited choice of speeach and actions leave less room for ego. You never see a zombie group arguing over a barricade plan or a KOS list. '''All''' pkers are people that kill survivors. survivors are also plagued by gkers <s>whom destroy a survivor's most important resource, generators.</s> The survivors single greatest tool is the needle.
Zombies may say there are more survivors, but how many of those people are actually benefiting the survivor cause? I have a theory that at least 5% of survivor characters actually fight against survivors.
 
Zombies actually have much less troubles than survivors. The majority of pkers are people that kill survivors. survivors are also plagued by gkers whom destroy a survivor's most important resource, generators.


===Zombies Have Everything Nerfed===
===Zombies Have Everything Nerfed===
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Survivor speech was limited to 50 people. This messed up communication in crowded places
Survivor speech was limited to 50 people. This messed up communication in crowded places
''Zombies on the other hand have no effective in game communication. This HAS helped them massively as they have to organise better out of game communication.''


Revives cost 10AP. This gave zombies an advantage in situations where survivors need to revive large number of people. Most significantly in mall sieges zombies got an advantage from the increased AP cost of revives
Revives cost 10AP. This gave zombies an advantage in situations where survivors need to revive large number of people. Most significantly in mall sieges zombies got an advantage from the increased AP cost of revives
''Killing a 60hp survivor costs a minimum of 15ap, reviving them costs 10ap. Winning a Mall siege is all about barricades. Every AP pumped into barricades can cost up to 4ap for a zombie to remove.''


Large were fused buildings. Before, each block of a large structure was considered an independent structure. After this, once zombies break into one part of a large building such as a mall, the entire place is doomed.
Large were fused buildings. Before, each block of a large structure was considered an independent structure. After this, once zombies break into one part of a large building such as a mall, the entire place is doomed.
''This is in parts true''.


Ruin. This WAS A HUGE blow to survivors. This gave zombies another advantage. Now, you have to get rid of all zombies in a building to be able to barricade/repair it. If the building has been ruined a while it will take a HUGE amount of AP to repair it. This Nerf kept Red suburbs red. Also, it completely destroyed survivor effectiveness in red suburbs. In addition ruins can break free running lanes
Ruin. This WAS A HUGE blow to survivors. This gave zombies another advantage. Now, you have to get rid of all zombies in a building to be able to barricade/repair it. If the building has been ruined a while it will take a HUGE amount of AP to repair it. This Nerf kept Red suburbs red. Also, it completely destroyed survivor effectiveness in red suburbs. In addition ruins can break free running lanes
''Costs me a minumum of 15ap to ruin a VSB building. Costs a survior 11ap to repair it later that day. In fact it takes 5 days for ruin to become zombie effecient.  Red suburbs are red because they are full of zombies. Ghost towns are ghost towns because survivors don't understand that they are the easiest places in the world to reclaim.''


Zombies in a building lower barricade %'s. This also harmed all survivors.  
Zombies in a building lower barricade %'s. This also harmed all survivors.  
''Yes''


Flesh Rot. Zombies are then able to only have zombie skills yet still be effective against survivors. Survivors however need zombie skills to be more effective. This just made it much easier to be a zombie.
Flesh Rot. Zombies are then able to only have zombie skills yet still be effective against survivors. Survivors however need zombie skills to be more effective. This just made it much easier to be a zombie.
''What zombie skills does a survivor need? Ankle grab, lurching gait, Memories of life? Zombies still want necrotech employment, and diagnosis is superior to half the scent tree.''


===The END===
===The END===
As you can see, zombies have too many advantages. The next time a zombie complains about unfairness, you know they're lying.
As you can see, zombies have advantages, but then they have to. Without zombies Urban dead would be a rather charming city, with no challenge or fun. You Nerf ZOmbies, like you did with monroeville and no one has fun. (Apart from the pk'ers)

Revision as of 10:38, 6 December 2009

Introduction

People Say zombies have an advantage. Here's Why. Litlle of this is true.

Advantages starting out

Zombies start the game with Vigour Mortis which gives them the ability to start getting xp with no trouble.

In this state a zombie can destroy a barricade level 17.5% of the time, or to open up a building thats VSB+2 using approximately 58ap.

Of course then he can't get into the building anyway, because he can't open the door.

Plus he's probably been headshot, so there goes anoth 15 of his ap each day just standing up.

Without Vigor this zombie would be able to open the same building using only 80ap. Does that sound fair?

Survivors Don't have to find a vsb safehouse. All of you go and create a private now. The game automatically spawns you outside a vsb building (Normally without zombies outside).

Now create a police officer. Pychcically I will predict you appear in a powered vsb police station. Although Again I could be wrong. Lots of ammo here, more than enough for you to fill yourself up with the stuff and get freerunning.

So zombies simply have an advantage starting out.

Stats

A lot of zombies say that there are more survivors than zombies. From this, they claim survivors are more sucessful.

Stats apparently mean nothing. So why include them.

-kers

Zombies may say there are more survivors, but how many of those people are actually benefiting the survivor cause?

I have a theory that at least 50% of survivor characters actually fight against survivors.

Zombies actually have much less troubles than survivors, limited choice of speeach and actions leave less room for ego. You never see a zombie group arguing over a barricade plan or a KOS list. All pkers are people that kill survivors. survivors are also plagued by gkers whom destroy a survivor's most important resource, generators. The survivors single greatest tool is the needle.

Zombies Have Everything Nerfed

Over the years, survivors used to have real advantages. That's until zombies got everything nerfed or changed things so they had an advantage. Here's a quick list

Survivor speech was limited to 50 people. This messed up communication in crowded places

Zombies on the other hand have no effective in game communication. This HAS helped them massively as they have to organise better out of game communication.

Revives cost 10AP. This gave zombies an advantage in situations where survivors need to revive large number of people. Most significantly in mall sieges zombies got an advantage from the increased AP cost of revives

Killing a 60hp survivor costs a minimum of 15ap, reviving them costs 10ap. Winning a Mall siege is all about barricades. Every AP pumped into barricades can cost up to 4ap for a zombie to remove.

Large were fused buildings. Before, each block of a large structure was considered an independent structure. After this, once zombies break into one part of a large building such as a mall, the entire place is doomed.

This is in parts true.

Ruin. This WAS A HUGE blow to survivors. This gave zombies another advantage. Now, you have to get rid of all zombies in a building to be able to barricade/repair it. If the building has been ruined a while it will take a HUGE amount of AP to repair it. This Nerf kept Red suburbs red. Also, it completely destroyed survivor effectiveness in red suburbs. In addition ruins can break free running lanes

Costs me a minumum of 15ap to ruin a VSB building. Costs a survior 11ap to repair it later that day. In fact it takes 5 days for ruin to become zombie effecient. Red suburbs are red because they are full of zombies. Ghost towns are ghost towns because survivors don't understand that they are the easiest places in the world to reclaim.

Zombies in a building lower barricade %'s. This also harmed all survivors.

Yes

Flesh Rot. Zombies are then able to only have zombie skills yet still be effective against survivors. Survivors however need zombie skills to be more effective. This just made it much easier to be a zombie.

What zombie skills does a survivor need? Ankle grab, lurching gait, Memories of life? Zombies still want necrotech employment, and diagnosis is superior to half the scent tree.

The END

As you can see, zombies have advantages, but then they have to. Without zombies Urban dead would be a rather charming city, with no challenge or fun. You Nerf ZOmbies, like you did with monroeville and no one has fun. (Apart from the pk'ers)