UDWiki talk:Administration/Sysop Archives/Yonnua Koponen/2009-10-13 Promotion

Yonnua Koponen

1. Why is this in the 'Under Community Discussion' section? It fails crit 4. Which ever idiot moved it can go move it back until it fulfils all the criteria. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:13, 14 October 2009 (BST)

   HA! --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 05:05, 14 October 2009 (BST)

   Awww DDR, is today not going well for you? No response to the nomination, no obvious agreement that this doesn't yet meet crit 4, but a Cyberbob style comeback? Truly you are an inclusive and laudable user of this community. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 05:19, 14 October 2009 (BST)

   It was initially because there was just so much wrong with the bile you just spurted I couldn't bring myself to take it seriously enough to rebut it, since what you said was just SO absurd, particularly for an evil wiki stalker like you, for it to be serious. Zing, zing, and oh look, he even confirms it on your talk page. I have also duly noted your pathetic whining about "header issues" despite no initiative by you to move it yourself, so does that mean you knew he surpassed C4 and are just shit-stirring, or you are just a retarded little baby who would like to see if anyone actually falls for your idiotic bleating? Typical. The only difference between you and Bob is that you are the laudable member of the community who at leased pretends he takes his arguments seriously. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 05:28, 14 October 2009 (BST)

   As you well know, it's a specific requirement for a candidate to accept an individual promotion here, on this page. There have been many cases where users have not accepted promotion even with a past desire to become a sysop, sometimes due to forthcoming down time, the person who nominated them or simply because they've just changed their minds. I haven't moved it because it's not my job, you and I share this like of the path of least resistance, however unlike you, I don't also expect other people to do my job for me while I do nothing but bask in my status. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 05:40, 14 October 2009 (BST)

   Don't you dare pretend that all I do is sit on my throne and subdue underlings with no end in sight: I've worked hard for this wiki, still do, harder than you ever did, and you currently do 0%. At leased in the first week of your return you did a bit of work. And back to the point: I am not moving it because we are in the position to assume he still wants this bid as he had made absolutely no indication in the last 3 days (which was when he last said he was running for sysop) that he wants otherwise. Move it or be quiet, nut up or shut up. You're beginning to get onto my nerves. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 05:53, 14 October 2009 (BST)

   I'm beginning to get on your nerves? Oh, noes(!) What will happen to me?(!) Will my vandal data be forged?(!) Will you not do things you said you'd do?(!) Oh, wait, those have both already happened. "In a nutshell my initial sentiment towards sysop-ready users is that they do our jobs for us" If they're doing your jobs for you, what are you doing? And why haven't you requested demotion if you aren't already doing it to the point that regular users are having to step in and pick up the slack of a job you volunteered to do? One would think your CDO would recognise which section a nomination has to go in particularly when it seemed to be so strong regarding categorising J3D's pages.

   I do work here, not as much as some, but what I do plays to my strengths and no-one else can do it. When people are formulating suggestions there is one name that is ever mentioned when wondering whether something is a dupe. One, and its mine. I don't have to shout about this, put it on my user page and engage in other acts of self glorification because my ego just doesn't need it. It's the work I do here ad will continue to do until someone comes along who's better at it. Been waiting years for that to happen. If of course you were referring to my PD section of my user space, the reason for that being abandoned is obvious, I was not granted the same rights regarding it as everyone else. In the past edits to user pages have always been vandalism, I even put a nice template at the top to say go away, but I seem to be treated differently even though user pages are explicitly there for that reason. Then my vandal data gets forged and no-one thinks that reverting it to ensure that anyone investigating has an easier time is an acceptable way of moving forward, no that's right, because the same basic courtesies don't seem to apply. Work I may do or not do however has nothing to do with this, which is that it shouldn't be in that section, and you know it.

   Moving this to the talk page is commendable, however I'd prefer the small text to be altered to Initial discussion moved to the talk page given that should the nomination be accepted it would be better for me to strike my initial comment and add my thoughts in the same place rather than further down the page. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 06:12, 14 October 2009 (BST)

   Please point me to the policy which states all the criterion have to be confirmed on the A/PM page itself. You love policies, don't you? I don't think you really understand with what I meant by "In a nutshell my initial sentiment towards sysop-ready users is that they do our jobs for us". Did you not read the rest of the conversation? Do you deliberately ignore the climate of this wiki's community? Of course I'm doing fucking work, because on a whole no one else on the wiki is doing it for us, hence why Cyberbob and I agreed that it is a good thing for users to do to become sysop-ready. It's what a lot of the sysops did before they became promoted and no one in the community does it at the moment. You did when you came back, which was a breath of fresh air, until your little "my userpage means I PWN EVERYONE" debacle (and you say we power trip) (and yes, I never mentioned this or insinuated it you brought it up on your own accord), which generally allows me to sum up your entire account of the PD thing, and your subsequent tantrum and behaviour as nothing less than utter butthurt.

   And in relation to the talk page move, you have my permission to alter it to what you suggested above if you feel it necessary, though I don't see the point since there's nothing stopping you from just adding any extraneous stuff under it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:22, 14 October 2009 (BST)

   Which is it? You want me to move it or shut up (I've moved it twice now) or you want a policy? Can I say find the link yourself like you did on J3D's page? Add in the fact that another user has disagreed with your preferred version and we're right back to an edit war like on J3D's pages.

   Userpage ownership has always been a policy driven right on here. It's what gained the escalation on the precedent I brought during the case. Yet, that doesn't seem to apply when it's in my space does it? Exactly the same, both user pages with templates saying don't fucking edit here, one gets an escalation, one doesn't. Is the difference that one has User:Iscariot preceding it? User pages are allowed to be for that use as defined by policy, escalations have been given before, all of a sudden they aren't? Difference this time being it's mine. Double standard. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 06:37, 14 October 2009 (BST)

   Policy please. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:42, 14 October 2009 (BST)

   As soon as you go to J3D's page, apologise for attempting to strong arm something you had no right to be doing. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 06:44, 14 October 2009 (BST)

   Policy Please. You don't have a policy!!!! *continues to harass user for policy* --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:45, 14 October 2009 (BST)

Iscariot, you need to get a life. Like really. Wiki-lawyering gets you nowhere.--SirArgo ^Talk 06:30, 14 October 2009 (BST)

That's probably why he resorts to making everything a personal struggle just to get a serious response from even those who pledge not to take him seriously. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:33, 14 October 2009 (BST)