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== EMR BOT ==
Is the bot still alive? I've been updating some of the talk pages. Please respond. --[[User:Gmoney|Gmoney]] 09:04, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
== User boxes? ==
Hey, how do you make user boxes? --[[User:Suburb 22 Zombies|Suburb 22 Zombies]] 03:37, 17 April 2011 (BST)
== Template:Mall Logo ==
Does it need to be case sensitive? Lots of people tend to make the first letter upper-case. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:30, 26 April 2011 (BST)
:I made a change so that whichever case is used during the update, it is converted to lower case for the purpose of {{tl|Mall Logo}}. See [[User:DangerReport/Bale Mall]] and [[Bale Mall]]. The former has upper case Ruined, yet the Bal Mall logo is the correct logo (ruined). ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:57, 26 April 2011</sub>
::Gotcha. So it converts all of the text to be lowercase. Nice. :D --{{User:Akule/sig}} 01:06, 26 April 2011 (BST)
:::Yeah it converts the result of {{tl|DRstatus}} to lower case. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:16, 26 April 2011</sub>
Oh god. This makes things ''worse''! {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:40, 2 June 2011 (BST)
:The wiki update, I take it? --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:47, 2 June 2011 (BST)
::Accepting uppercase input. Basically breaks a dozen other templates if it's used. But it's hardly world-endingly bad. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:50, 2 June 2011 (BST)
:::It makes for some unusual problems, as people can make variant group names just by altering case. Such as [[The dead]] or [[the dead]] or [[tHe Dead]] or [[the DEad]] (the actual group is [[The Dead]] or [[the Dead]]). --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:01, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Nonono. I mean accepting "Ruined" v "ruined" in the template. Long story short, probably all the templates in [[:Category:DangerReport Formatting Templates|this category]] would also need this fix which honestly is more effort for maintenance than users just getting it right.
I didn't mean anything regarding the wiki update. Names have always been case sensitive as I recall, so that's nothing new. (The automatic redirect regardless of the first letters case was also there before) {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:06, 2 June 2011 (BST)
:I pointed the problem out to people, so Vapor formatted the base template to [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template%3ABuildingStatus&action=historysubmit&diff=1881400&oldid=1527038 automatically lowercase the status]. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:21, 2 June 2011 (BST)
::Ok let me step back.
::Yes, I realise that the BuildingStatus & Mall Logo templates now accept uppercase input. I am saying this is a ''bad'' thing.
::It breaks all those other templates which use the status variable, but didn't get changed. Plus since the uppercase input now "works" on the report template, people use it without realising it causes other breakages.
::I'm saying it's less effort for user to just correct it if they do it wrong (which they'd notice with a broken image link) then to apply the lowercase logic on all templates that access the status in some way.
::Take a gander at [[Special:Wantedtemplates]], you'll notice several templates with an uppercase status being requested, and they don't exist so there'll be derped results somewhere. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:30, 2 June 2011 (BST)
:::Ah, gotcha. I didn't realize it caused other breakages. Can we go through the rest of the templates to fix them to make them as derp proof as possible? I only ask because I imagine that the people who will not care about the casing will make more work for those of us who do care in the long run. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:40, 2 June 2011 (BST)
::::Well... if it really matters in the long run... then yeah. I'll get around to it. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:52, 2 June 2011 (BST)
:::::Whenever you can is fine. I had just originally brought it up as various users (mainly new ones) kept breaking the various status templates when [[The Dead 2.0]] swept over the land. I didn't want to end up changing them, as I don't have a strong understanding of wikicode. Thank you in advance. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:59, 2 June 2011 (BST)
== EMRs ==
So you're back. I thought you'd be gone forever.
I must admit, I'm quite ashamed of it myself. You ''did'' gave me the EMR Bot before leaving, but I never got the chance to use it, test it, or even learn it for that matter. I've been thinking ''"I must do it, for The Rooster is gone and no one else can"'' for months, but never bothered to run it even once, until the page clogged up and I had to move some old EMRs elsewhere.
You can find those EMRs, archived from October 29th to November 30th, at my [[User:Kittithaj/Sandbox#EMRP:_Reports_to_Process|Sandbox]] page. Thank you for returning and working with them. And sorry I couldn't/didn't do something with them. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 02:13, 4 June 2011 (BST)
:Ah no worries, if nothing else you'd kept an immaculate log that would've done the job just fine anyway. I checked your backup and I did process all of those reports so they're safe to nuke. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)
I posted a question on the [[Talk:EMRP:_Reports_to_Process]] talk page but I'm hoping that you could answer the question since you're controlling the bot. Should all of the "Reports to Process Later" entries be moved to the "Reports to Process" heading? And should the lone report from Feb 28 then be wiped?--[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 03:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)
:I answered the talk page. I'll be messing around with the headers a bit until I catch up. No need to worry, just stick everything under "Later" for now. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)
:: Thanks I appreciate the explanation. --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 07:23, 4 June 2011 (BST)
==Unused Image==
[[:File:1001 Days in Urban Dead.gif]] which you uploaded is currently [[Special:Unusedfiles|unused]] and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--[[User:Thegeneralbot|A helpful bot]] 16:45, 14 June 2011 (BST)
:Ironically, including the image is stupid since the wiki thumbnailer breaks horribly. *shrug* {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 12:23, 16 June 2011 (BST)
== How Appropriate ==
You're like a zombie, you know that? You disappear, then for strange reasons you rise and shamble and get active again. I would call it curious were it not for your involvement over the years in a browser-based zombie apocalypse game... ...


== CONTRIB WATCHING ==
It's good to see you again, Rooster. ;) --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 20:43, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


You probably already know this, but you've been added onto the [[:Image:Contribs.jpg|contribution monitoring service]]. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 14:49, 24 August 2009 (BST)
:Thanks :) Although, thinking about it, I didn't play the game much... {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


== [[:Image:Example.jpg]] ==
== EMR RtP shutdown ==


If you're not wanting it overwritten by teh newbs you can get it protected. I've just tested it out and you can't overwrite a protected image as a regular user. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:58, 25 August 2009 (BST)
Hi! Just wanted to let you know that because the [[User:ExternalMilitaryReportBot|EMRBot]] hasn't been run in over two years, I'm shutting down [[EMRP: Reports to Process]]. New users still sometimes post EMRs there expecting them to be processed, so I've posted a sign at the top letting them know it's not active. If the Bot returns at some point, feel free to remove the sign and restart RtP. Thanks! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 13:59, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
:Most excellent! To [[A/PT]]! {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:03, 25 August 2009 (BST)


== Crazy EMRP idea ==
== [[:File:1001 Days in Urban Dead.gif|Thankyou for this.]] ==


I'm sure you've been asked something along these lines before, but what are the odds you could create a bot that could analyze external military reports and update danger reports accordingly? So if say, Johnny posts a EMRP to be filed for Yagoton, and the bot sees the words "The Whatmore Building", it could use that section of the report (bounded by the ellipsis's on both sides) to update the building's Danger Report?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 23:21, 28 August 2009 (BST)
{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 01:30, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
:I had been working on just such functionality a good while back, but then a bunch of users started recording manually (and they still are) so I focused on some other stuff instead. Guess I should probably think about finishing that off. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:46, 28 August 2009 (BST)
::That "bunch of users" is, for the most part, [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] and myself =P all considered, a bot would be a real time saver, and would be less mistake prone.
::Also, a bit more complicated, would it be possible to program a bot that can use the "serious collateral damage", "infrastructure intact", "only one building with power". etc. blurbs to infer status reports (on the multitude of 'unknown' buildings)?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 23:54, 28 August 2009 (BST)
:::Is there enough information for that? I don't think you'd have enough to nail down a specific status for these buildings with any degree of certainty. Unlike named buildings which get a general status indicator and a horde (or lack thereof) report. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 00:22, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::::My idea was for something that could just ball-park guess unknown staus reports off of the military.It would use the extreme infrastructure and power reports (and zombie counts) to make a logical guess at what the unknown, really-out-of-date reports were (i.e. EMRP states the suburb is "wrecked" and without power; therefore St. Phony Hospital, which has an unknown status and hasn't been updated in well over a month, is likely ruined). If this were to work, it would just replace reports marked 'unknown', since such a system would be a ''little'' too inaccurate to replace real reports. The way I see it, inferred reports, while far from ideal, would be better than a wall of unknowns. Am I making any sense?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 01:10, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:::::I guess you could get away with it for extremes. You'd need blanket ruined/intact though, otherwise you wouldn't have enough information about individual buildings. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 01:23, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::::::Yeah, I'll admit the idea's a bit of a stretch. All the same, the more etreme reports aren't particularily uncommon.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 01:30, 29 August 2009 (BST)

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Is the bot still alive? I've been updating some of the talk pages. Please respond. --Gmoney 09:04, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

User boxes?

Hey, how do you make user boxes? --Suburb 22 Zombies 03:37, 17 April 2011 (BST)

Does it need to be case sensitive? Lots of people tend to make the first letter upper-case. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 00:30, 26 April 2011 (BST)

I made a change so that whichever case is used during the update, it is converted to lower case for the purpose of {{Mall Logo}}. See User:DangerReport/Bale Mall and Bale Mall. The former has upper case Ruined, yet the Bal Mall logo is the correct logo (ruined). ~Vsig.png 00:57, 26 April 2011
Gotcha. So it converts all of the text to be lowercase. Nice. :D --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 01:06, 26 April 2011 (BST)
Yeah it converts the result of {{DRstatus}} to lower case. ~Vsig.png 01:16, 26 April 2011

Oh god. This makes things worse! -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:40, 2 June 2011 (BST)

The wiki update, I take it? --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 22:47, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Accepting uppercase input. Basically breaks a dozen other templates if it's used. But it's hardly world-endingly bad. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:50, 2 June 2011 (BST)
It makes for some unusual problems, as people can make variant group names just by altering case. Such as The dead or the dead or tHe Dead or the DEad (the actual group is The Dead or the Dead). --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:01, 2 June 2011 (BST)

Nonono. I mean accepting "Ruined" v "ruined" in the template. Long story short, probably all the templates in this category would also need this fix which honestly is more effort for maintenance than users just getting it right.

I didn't mean anything regarding the wiki update. Names have always been case sensitive as I recall, so that's nothing new. (The automatic redirect regardless of the first letters case was also there before) -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:06, 2 June 2011 (BST)

I pointed the problem out to people, so Vapor formatted the base template to automatically lowercase the status. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:21, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Ok let me step back.
Yes, I realise that the BuildingStatus & Mall Logo templates now accept uppercase input. I am saying this is a bad thing.
It breaks all those other templates which use the status variable, but didn't get changed. Plus since the uppercase input now "works" on the report template, people use it without realising it causes other breakages.
I'm saying it's less effort for user to just correct it if they do it wrong (which they'd notice with a broken image link) then to apply the lowercase logic on all templates that access the status in some way.
Take a gander at Special:Wantedtemplates, you'll notice several templates with an uppercase status being requested, and they don't exist so there'll be derped results somewhere. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:30, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Ah, gotcha. I didn't realize it caused other breakages. Can we go through the rest of the templates to fix them to make them as derp proof as possible? I only ask because I imagine that the people who will not care about the casing will make more work for those of us who do care in the long run. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:40, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Well... if it really matters in the long run... then yeah. I'll get around to it. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:52, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Whenever you can is fine. I had just originally brought it up as various users (mainly new ones) kept breaking the various status templates when The Dead 2.0 swept over the land. I didn't want to end up changing them, as I don't have a strong understanding of wikicode. Thank you in advance. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:59, 2 June 2011 (BST)

EMRs

So you're back. I thought you'd be gone forever.

I must admit, I'm quite ashamed of it myself. You did gave me the EMR Bot before leaving, but I never got the chance to use it, test it, or even learn it for that matter. I've been thinking "I must do it, for The Rooster is gone and no one else can" for months, but never bothered to run it even once, until the page clogged up and I had to move some old EMRs elsewhere.

You can find those EMRs, archived from October 29th to November 30th, at my Sandbox page. Thank you for returning and working with them. And sorry I couldn't/didn't do something with them. -- Kittithaj 02:13, 4 June 2011 (BST)

Ah no worries, if nothing else you'd kept an immaculate log that would've done the job just fine anyway. I checked your backup and I did process all of those reports so they're safe to nuke. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)

I posted a question on the Talk:EMRP:_Reports_to_Process talk page but I'm hoping that you could answer the question since you're controlling the bot. Should all of the "Reports to Process Later" entries be moved to the "Reports to Process" heading? And should the lone report from Feb 28 then be wiped?--UroguyTMZ 03:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)

I answered the talk page. I'll be messing around with the headers a bit until I catch up. No need to worry, just stick everything under "Later" for now. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)
Thanks I appreciate the explanation. --UroguyTMZ 07:23, 4 June 2011 (BST)

Unused Image

File:1001 Days in Urban Dead.gif which you uploaded is currently unused and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--A helpful bot 16:45, 14 June 2011 (BST)

Ironically, including the image is stupid since the wiki thumbnailer breaks horribly. *shrug* -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 12:23, 16 June 2011 (BST)

How Appropriate

You're like a zombie, you know that? You disappear, then for strange reasons you rise and shamble and get active again. I would call it curious were it not for your involvement over the years in a browser-based zombie apocalypse game... ...

It's good to see you again, Rooster. ;) --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 20:43, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) Although, thinking about it, I didn't play the game much... -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

EMR RtP shutdown

Hi! Just wanted to let you know that because the EMRBot hasn't been run in over two years, I'm shutting down EMRP: Reports to Process. New users still sometimes post EMRs there expecting them to be processed, so I've posted a sign at the top letting them know it's not active. If the Bot returns at some point, feel free to remove the sign and restart RtP. Thanks! Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 13:59, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou for this.

A ZOMBIE ANT 01:30, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

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