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| Please add new messages under a new heading and place them at the bottom of the page. Thanks - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 01:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC) | | Please add new messages under a new heading and place them at the bottom of the page. Thanks - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 01:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| ===Something I thought you should see===
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAxe_Hack&diff=1112386&oldid=1112355 This], which seems pretty close to vandalism actually considering it's a stones throw away from him making accounts under different IPs and voting for himself. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:29, 18 April 2008 (BST)
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| :I'm serious, Karek. If you want, I can provide a screenshot of the IM. Or do you want his screenname also? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:31, 18 April 2008 (BST)
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| ::haha the goons must be loving this. look, its apparently the same thing DCC did with all her goon pals. "Hey goonies, go vote against this doofus" or whatever. Just look at the last votes for him. Axe, just let them ride. Most of the sysops seem smart enough to figure out those last few bunches of "against" votes don't mean a damn thing. --{{User:Showcase/sig}} 20:38, 18 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::Just in case, I'll just provide [http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3108/propagandalw8.jpg this] as proof that I did convince a friend. I'm sorry for all the highlighting, but he's writing in white, which is annoying since Meebo doesn't show background colors... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:41, 18 April 2008 (BST)
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| ==Heh Heh....==
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| Thanks man. Sorry bout that, I've got a rep to- wait, no I don't. Let's go with I was high. Yeah, that.....--[[User:Officer 123satsitx|Officer 123satsitx]] 18:58, 12 April 2008 (BST)
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| ==BLAHHHHHHFGGGAAK==
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| HAHAHA omg that was quick. IS this your life? Do you sit here all day and night just watching these pages? LOL. I love you. You make me feel good about myself. hahahaha. HAVE FUN DELETING MY PAGE. --[[User:Scurley7|Scurley7]] 13:18, 4 April 2008 (BST)
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| :LOL durlet dyou drunk. srttle down ou driunk fuck. im syspop hyou die biw.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 13:25, 4 April 2008 (BST)
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| ::I thikn the zobies win urandam dead.ddddddddddddddddddddd aaaaaaaaah.gjafwon urban dead
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| --{{User:Nallan/sig}} 13:27, 4 April 2008 (BST)
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| ==RE: A message about talk pages==
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| So then howcome The Grimch said editing someone's comments was impersonation? I ain't missing his point. [[User:Treviabot92|Treviabot92]] 04:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
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| ==Unused Images==
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| Can you not delete those Whitmore Building charts please? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 13:06 2 December 2007 (BST)</small>
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| :Sure an particular reason? - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 13:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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| ::I'll make a page for them. It just seems like a waste of effort to just loose the data. You can rip into the NT scan screenshots though, I guess <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 13:10 2 December 2007 (BST)</small>
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| Heh, we seem to have duplicated our efforts in this. I hate deleting unused images... far to lenient I am. I just hate deleting stuff permanently, unless it's of absolutely no interest whatsoever <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 13:24 2 December 2007 (BST)</small>
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| :Yeah thats part of the reason I'm sticking to the really old stuff, I figured I would trim down to around august 07. Doesn't undeletion work for images? because I'm pretty sure these aren't that permanently gone. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 13:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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| ::Unless Kevan has updated the wiki lately, I think they're gone for good <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 13:53 2 December 2007 (BST)</small>
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| :::You right, i just tried it.You can restore the image description but not the image, that not really that helpful - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 13:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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| == Broken link ==
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| On your user page, under Special:Uncategorizedpages, near the very bottom. <small><small>+1</small></small> --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :Yes and I am very glad it broke, Im keeping it to serve as an example to all the other broken pages on [[Special:Uncategorizedpages]] that don't feel like being deletable - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 02:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
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| == Archive O'Clock ==
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| Yay! Too bad I don't get that time zone in [[User_Talk:Karek|my area]] of the wiki :(--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :Yeah it's kinda of like daylight savings time [[User talk:Grim s|some places]] just don't have it- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 02:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ==:D==
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| Thanks for categorizing the CommandBios; I forgot <.<. /give Vantar cookie. <3 --[[User:Dudemeister|dudemeister]] 23:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ==Thanks for the Move==
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| I appreciate it. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 00:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :no problem. The page seems popular 3 votes and I haven't even updated the news box yet - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 00:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ::Edit: nevermind you beat me to it :) - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 00:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :::Yup! I wanted to get it out there and just see how many people are interested in it. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 00:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ==Moderation==
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| I guess i am supposed to warn you that you are running for a [[A/BP|Bureaucrat]]. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 00:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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| == A Deal? ==
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| Due to your kindness [[Inundantia]] will not harm anything within your [[Vantar's Safehouse|kindgdom]]--[[User:Death Valley Driver|Death Valley Driver]] 00:08, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :Thank you, that's very kind of you- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 00:13, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ::Thats good, Inundantia scares the crap out of me!--[[User:James M. McGee|James M. McGee]] 22:55, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
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| == The worst location ever: [[Pridmore Way School]] ==
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Pridmore_Way_School&diff=915512&oldid=833598 Erm], how should this be blocked? I'm thinking that making this into a disambiguation might work, but the content applies to both. Duplicate the content on both new locations or get rid of it? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :I was thinking of moving the page that is there to somewhere else and making [[Pridmore Way School]] into a disambig linking to Pridmore Way School 10,96 & Pridmore Way School 13,96 but that ran into the problem of where to move the current content to. Its too developed to warrant deletion and it is relevant enough and of high enough quality to be kept in the main name space.- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 22:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ::Two location blocks? That template would have to be mangled to get a left and right alignment.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :::No two separate pages, technical I should have label that diambigless instead of blockless - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 22:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ::::Keep the content on the disambig? Except almost no one will see it.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :::::Been there. Done that. You, block them. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 22:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ::::::Done - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 22:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ==Category:"Screenshoots"==
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| Just thought I'd let you know, I think you made a mistake with adding a whole bunch of images to the category "screenshoots". I'm almost certain you meant "screenshots" but I'll leave it to you to fix it, haha. Yeah, I'm lazy.--[[User:Nallan|Nick]] 04:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :Ah crap...Yeah your right, though technically i didn't make the mistake I just spread it around more, i copy/pasted the category name straight from the [[UDWiki talk:Image Categorisation/Category Tree|Category Tree]] and didn't bother to proofread it first. Nice catch, I'm glad you got it before I did more- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 04:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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| So, is that image category stuff decided now? Meaning I can start categorizing images?--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :[[UDWiki talk:Image Categorisation#Are we set to go?|I think so, but am not certain]] that's why I started with the lest complicated category first. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 04:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ::Hrm. If [[UDWiki talk:Image Categorisation/Category Tree|this]] is the current plan, it's overcomplicated.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :::Not really Location images could be handled a little better but thats about it - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 04:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ::::I suppose you're right. Location images should probably just be: Location images. Also, what if a character plays both "Outlaw" and "Zombie" equally? Do we incorporate both categories? Weapons and equipment should probably be combined to make: Items. Yes, no, maybe? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 05:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :::::No, Maybe, No. There will some day be ~10,000 images in Location images so if you are looking for a certain image some sub cats are a must, I just don't like weeding out TRps and non TRps. I have no clue what the outlaw category is to be used for, how do we tell a Pk character art from civilain art, its the zombie apocalypse everyone has guns and crazed look in their eye.as for equipment you find there are a lot of images of guns and weapons are most likely what people will be looking for so were are making if easy to browse- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 05:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ::::::Mmkay. So keep it as is unless something turns up?--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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| :::::::THat been my plan so far - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 17:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ::::::I'm assuming that any art used solely for PKer groups would be considered to be in the outlaw category. I really like that category name too. It fits quite well. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 19:11, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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| ==Arbitration Discussion==
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| Please [[User:Karek/ProjDev/Arbitration Policy|stop by]], It not only effects most users, it effects Sysops directly.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
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| ==Image Categorisation==
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| I think we're ready to start in on [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|categorising the wiki's images]], please read the instructions on that page, and then if there are any further questions, ask on the talk page (or my own page). We've got a big job ahead :) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 01:19 2 December 2007 (BST)</small>
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| == Congrats ==
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| Just wanted to give ya a crat congrat. I amuse myself too much! anywho, kudos--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 09:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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| Aw, I wanted to be the first person to congratulate you. Anyway, good luck with the new position! --<small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;background:#ffffff;padding:1px;">[[User:Zombie slay3r|<b><span style="color:#0000cd;">Z. slay3r</span></b>]] • [[User_talk:Zombie slay3r|<span style="background-color:#0000fa;color:#ffffff"> Talk </span>]]</span></small> 15:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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| Thanks both of you - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 18:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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| I expect $$ for my vote. Congratz! --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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| :MOAR $$ plz kthx. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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| Congratulations, good luck. - [[User:Whitehouse|Whitehouse]] 23:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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| Congratulations on your nomination. I'm glad my vote could help. I look forward to seeing your energy put forth around the wiki. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 00:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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| High fives from me! --{{User:Dux Ducis/sig}} 07:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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| I just deleted a "joke" page put up by redrum, regarding DK13, and used to spread nothing but complete rubbish and lies. There are also several instances of my own original artwork and photographs being used without permission. How come i get a warning? Thats some kind of joke right? --[[User:MK|MK]] 00:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Treviabot92&curid=70306&diff=943176&oldid=943170 Are you sure] this type of stuff isn't impersonation? It can make people look like complete retards and is also incredibly misleading. (Yes, I like using the same header).--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:50, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
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| ==Merge pages?==
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| I'm utterly confused, and Gnome said that you might know the answer to this one. Could you please stop by [[User_talk:Frozen_Flame|my talk page]] and take a look at the pothole I seem to have stepped into? --{{User:Frozen_Flame/sig}} 00:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
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| :Thanks for getting the ball rolling on updating the Location Style Guide. Since I'm still so new to this community, I'm just going to wait it out until it's updated. After that I'll get back to implementing whatever method is decided.--{{User:Frozen_Flame/sig}} 16:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
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| == Location pages ==
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| I've noticed how some locations have their own pages (like [[Freake Grove]]) and some are part of a grouped page, such as [[Gatley Drive]]. Should all related locations in a suburb (eg. streets) share a suburb block type page, or should they have their own individual page? I am just cleaning up some wiki pages in the NW area (Dakerstown, Jensentown...) and need to know what policy I should adhere to, especially since a lot of the links in the 3x3 map on location pages are broken (see: [[Seamour Crescent]]) due to the variation in styles from suburb to suburb. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Nallan|Nick]] 01:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)--[[User:Nallan|Nick]] 22:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
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| ==TooMuchDrama==
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| Feel free. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 14:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
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| I'm posting this here just because it seems an appropiate heading for it to go under, I just wanted to say that I appreciated your ruleing on the Mobius Spam issue. I was glad to see I wasn't the only person out there that didn't think it was spam, but was actually relevant material that had been customized ffor each page. Again thank you for baing an Admin your work is appreciated.[[User:Mr NoName001|--Mr NoName001]] 02:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
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| ==Kooks Promotion==
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| He needs a sysop vouch before his bid can be moved; I didn't see one. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 02:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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| :And he only has one vouch from a user with over 200 contribs. --{{User:Midianian/Sig}} 02:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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| ==[[First Ruining of Fort Creedy]]==
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| Can you help me flesh it out, any info you can provide? Any tips for wording/balance? {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 02:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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| :Thanks for the wikification. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 03:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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| ==Thanks==
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| Thanks for adding my journal archive to the right category. I didn't even know there was a "journal archive" category. -- [[User:BackBreaker|BackBraker]] 05:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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| ==vandalism==
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| quick question. would [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Butt_Road_Railway_Station&diff=965068&oldid=960470 this] edit be condsidered vandalism?--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 07:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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| :Yes- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 07:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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| ::thanks.--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 07:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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| ==A/PM==
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| Karek's bid for promotion is ready to deal with. I notice you haven't stated a position, so I will leave it up to you to review the submissions and make a decision if you're happy to. I've stated my thoughts on the bid already. If you want to discuss it further, feel free to leave a message on my talk page, or email me via the wiki <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 13:45 20 January 2008 (BST)</small>
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| == Broken Link ==
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| You ended up breaking my link to my toe tags picture for the [[Clothes/Implemented#Toe_Tags|implemented suggestion of toe tags]]. Can we get it back, or should I re-upload? --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 16:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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| :Sorry about that, undeletion doesn't play well with images so reloading is your best bet. Since links images are mostly ignored by [[Special:Unusedimages]] you may want to include the image on a subpage to keep it from getting back on the scheduled deletion list - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 17:54, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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| ::I'll just add it to my userpage. I'll have to find it again and re-upload. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 17:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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| == Vandal Account/IP address block? ==
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| I recently got a message on the wiki warning me about "vandalism". On trying to access your page or edit my own, I got a message saying my IP was blocked because a user, "lesantdavida" used my IP as a vandal account. I usually use a public connection through my college dorm, and I would hate to have to walk to Starbucks just to use the wiki. Is there any remedy to this situation?{{Unsigned|Hardcore Rockabilly|19:07, 4 February 2008}}
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| == RE: Vandalism Warning ==
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| Thanks for unblocking that IP. I'm part of the DEM, so I think messing with DEM pages would be kind of counter-productive, eh?
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| Thanks for your help. --[[User:Hardcore Rockabilly|Hardcore Rockabilly]] 01:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
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| == Gotcha ==
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| Gotcha! There's so many. I want to cry. :( -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 17:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
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| :Ok. Will do. I'll try and get a chunk of them done now. -- [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheeseman]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]][[The Randoms|Random]][[User_Talk:Krazy Monkey|Talk]]</sup> 17:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
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| == Fiction? ==
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| This whole game is fiction. What makes one thing worthy of the category and one thing not? And is this whole game fiction? I mean its real in a sense. Btw i'm not disputing that the Great Fire article is fiction, just curious as to how the category is so empty...and why is the gnome in it?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 11:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
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| :I'm fiction. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
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| Anything that happened either before the outbreak or involves events that clearly never happened get placed into Category:Fiction. There isn't that much back story on the wiki so the category is rather bare. Also the Category is rather new so a lot of older fiction was never added into to. As for the gnome, I guess there is no such thing.- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 01:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
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| :You could always hop through the [[UDWiki:Lexicon]] and mark up some of those.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
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| ==Demotions==
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| Could you look in on [[A/DM]], specifically at Darths demotion request, please <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 05:13 23 February 2008 (BST)</small>
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| ==Promotions==
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| [[A/PM#Krazy_Monkey_aka_Cheeseman|Krazy Monkey's]] promotion bid is ready for a ruling. I could go either way on this, on the one hand, he's very active, helpful, and seems impartial. On the other he hasn't shown much interest in policy discussions, and often makes a few basic editing mistakes (usually to do with linking). Whatever you decide is fine with me <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:14 27 February 2008 (BST)</small>
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| :His work tends to be of the janitorial variety so I don't think his lack of policy discussion will that big of a problem. He seems to understand the queues and the community didn't mention any lack of trust in is janitoring so Ive added him to the op team. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 11:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
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| Could you promote 73 while boxy is awol ? --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 06:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
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| ==Lexicon==
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| Hey I just got back on the wiki after a year of absense and I saw your invitation to the lexicon, I was wondering how one could go about reviving the whole project, it seems indecent to leave it unfinished. --[[User:Slowwber|Slowwber]] 00:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
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| :Hey I'm trying to get the lexicon revival into the news on the main page, i put it on the wikinews page but I can't get it on to the news tablet. Thanks.--[[User:Slowwber|Slowwber]] 21:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
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| ==9 Block Maps==
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| I added a 9 block map to [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Wicks_Plaza Wicks Plaza] I also attempted to remove the location stub requirements for Wicks Plaza and [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/The_Paviour_Building The Paviour Building]. I think thats done correctly, if not could you please inform me?
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| == Since.. ==
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| This page has been updated more recently, Where is the Safehouse, exactly? If It's in Havercroft, I'll stop by. (I'm Zed', Got Syringes?) --[[User:Dr Cory Bjornson|Dr Cory Bjornson]] 03:09, 15 April 2008 (BST)
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| == Hey ==
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| Since boxy isn't around, could you look into [[User_talk:Boxy#Junk_that_is_Upsetting_Me|this request]]? Apparently this guy would like some sysop action getting those images taken down in a prompt manner. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:43, 15 April 2008 (BST)
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| :If you read [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Boxy&curid=17417&diff=1109693&oldid=1109690 my post here] you'll see that I found [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2007_01#Faerie_Queen precedent] for people to be vandal banned for harassment involving names. Jedaz says it best [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning&diff=prev&oldid=531374 here]. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:32, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| ::You may have a case, it is not a perfect comparison to the current issue but it is close enough. If Marty takes his case to [[A/VB]] it will get heard (but boxy's talk page is not a/vb)- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 00:42, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::Oh, I know. He wanted to get help from boxy or another sysop. So I figured I'd let you talk to him since you are one and he's ignoring the discussion, thus making marty [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevan&curid=1072&diff=1109653&oldid=1100000 more desperate] for help. I'll get the ball rolling if you would prefer to keep away from this with a ten foot pole. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:47, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::: It is not that I don't want to get involved it is that there is not much more I can tell him other then take it to arbys or A/VB and that has been said a few times now. The biggest problem is in terms of game flavor there would be insults flying between opposing sides so the case that would need to be made is what has been said/drawn crosses the line and I am not sure if it really has in this case or not (still digging though) - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 00:55, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::::Oh, I figured that the whole thing would have to be investigated and if both sides (or just Marty) want to be left alone it would have to be [[A/A]]ed, but there is a point where a line is crossed where we have to say "''This isn't [[Unofficial_UD_Forums#Desensitised|a forum]] and this is a bad faith edit.''" I think those pictures probably cross that line, don't you? --{{User:Akule/sig}} 01:00, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::::: I think a few may be crossing it and few aren't but figuring out which ones are will be a bitch of a precedent so I would not expect a quick ruling ( and I wouldn't bet against a A/M case getting started before it's all said and done) - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 01:05, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::::::To begin with, I'd look at the ones that are attributing fictional quotes to Marty, as those would fall under impersonation. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 01:16, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::::::: Impersonation would be a stretch (not inconceivable but a stretch) the big problem is you have to prove they are talking about Marty Banks (the user) and not Marty Banks (the fictional character). - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 01:30, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::::::::I imagine they are since they are quoting him on their group talk page and posting them for public view [[Talk:Dunell_Hills#Why_is_Marty_so_Crazy.3F|here]]. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 01:36, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| ::::::::::Not sure if I should be chiming in here, but a parody image with a word balloon is pretty clearly meant as an insult, rather than any sort of attempt at misdirection or impersonation. {{User:TastyNougat/Sig}} 23:19, 18 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::::::: Since the art work is derived from [[User:MartyBanks|Marty's character art]] they would be impersonating the fictional character not the user, at least thats how I see it- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 01:49, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::::::::True, but since Marty controls the character and the character's speech, wouldn't they in fact be pretending that he said it, thus impersonating him? --{{User:Akule/sig}} 01:52, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| ::::::::No, character likeness are not protected under the wiki's impersonations rules (and if this case ends up setting that precedent I call dibs on "a non-descript survivor") I know a few Malton chronicles stories that involved characters not controlled by the author, and this is more or less the same type of thing - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 01:59, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::::::::I didn't realize that. So just the harassment then. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 02:03, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::::::::: Yes but you have the same problem, are they harassing the User or the Character. The bar for Character harassment is much higher, I would look at some of the earlier Finis Valorum stuff for a precedent. Of course if at any point Marty just asked them to lay off a little and they ignored it you would have a decent bad faith case there. Them not respecting the legal threats on boxy's talk page is not a good example of this, you need him to ask them nicely and directly to have their ignoring it be considered bad faith - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 02:21, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :::::::::::It's clearly harassing the player, and it looks like he wants it to stop. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 02:30, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| ::::::::::If they do any more then yes thats almost unquestionably bad faith but since they have have been primarily making fun of the character you are going to have a hard time proofing that harassment of the user was indented, making fun a of a group or a character is allowed (think about all the anti-Big Bash stuff there has been) to prove harassment you need to be able to establish that they were continuing mocking him after they knew he was taking their tauts personally. Also since they are not responsible for tracking Marty every comment his complaints on boxy's and kevan's talk page doesn't count as letting them know he was offended until they commented on it and mocking his legal threats isn't harassment since he may not be in a position to make good on them, so you would need new material to emerge to get the harassment call. (of course Marty may have asked them to lay off earlier already, I haven't looked that far back yet,if he has then harassment would be relatively easy to prove) - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 02:49, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| == Thanks for the contribution ==
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| Yeah, forgot to add the category, thanks.
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| --[[User:Sect46|Sect46]] 00:36, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| :No problem, interesting angle to go with for a game guide, it's nice to see something different like that. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 00:43, 16 April 2008 (BST)
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| ===Akule's bid===
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| Akule's promotion bid should have been closed four days ago. And axe appears to have declined his promotion bid. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 04:54, 19 April 2008 (BST)
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| == Karek's Misconduct Complaint ==
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| Would you mind [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct|re-stating]] your vote following my addition of Hagnat to the complaint having discovered he was responsible for one of the strikings? --[[User talk:Grarr|Grarr]] 19:46, 3 May 2008 (BST)
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| == Dux Demotion ==
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| Demote me baby ;) --{{User:Dux Ducis/sig}} 13:04, 6 May 2008 (BST)
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| :Done - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 13:16, 6 May 2008 (BST)
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| ==SA promotion==
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| I don't know that he's got enough community support at this time, nor enough contributions lately <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 13:14 15 May 2008 (BST)</small>
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| :Agreed - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 16:12, 15 May 2008 (BST)
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| ::Oooo sooper sekrit bureaucrat discussion...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:35, 15 May 2008 (BST)
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| == Requesting.. ==
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| [[MU_Roster]] be moved to [[Malton_Underground/MU_Roster]], Just for the hell of it? {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 20:58, 22 May 2008 (BST)
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| :Done, however in the future [[UDWiki:Administration/Move Requests]] is a better place for this type of request - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 21:02, 22 May 2008 (BST)
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| ::Ah. Thanks, I just remembered you moving my page.. {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 21:41, 22 May 2008 (BST)
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| ==Kill Vista==
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| Vista has requested demotion, please review and do the biz <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 01:33 23 May 2008 (BST)</small>
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| == [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#Voting|misconduct voting]] ==
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| hi. could you vote on [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#Voting|my misconduct case]] ? Vote for, vote against, just vote. I just want this thing to be over. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 02:57, 25 May 2008 (BST)
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| :Sure - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 03:45, 25 May 2008 (BST)
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| ==Thank you==
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| For recognising when your time is up. I personally didn't have any issues with you aside from a few contentious rulings (and would have probably voted for you), but I appreciate your integrity in bowing out. --[[User:Cyberbob240|brb, church]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 01:37, 7 June 2008 (BST)
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| :Umm...your welcome. I kinda always thought you had some issue with me (I think all of our past interaction have ended in personal attacks) so your gratitude honestly surprises me here. Thank you - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 02:58, 7 June 2008 (BST)
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| ::Unlike some - and despite what many think - I am able to differentiate between someone who disagrees with me but honestly thinks they're doing the right thing and someone with an agenda. --[[User:Cyberbob240|brb, church]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 06:02, 7 June 2008 (BST)
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| == Being a bureaucrat ==
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| If you don't mind me asking, what was it that you didn't like about the role? --[[User:Toejam|Toejam]] 04:07, 7 June 2008 (BST)
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| :There was a few things but the biggest thing was the "Spirit of the Rules vs. Wording of the Rules" fight that kept breaking out. For the first part of my term I was too busy with categories to really get involved with the wiki politics then [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2007_12#Grim_s_2|the Grim A/VB]] happened. What the archive doesn't include is the 10 straight hours that me and Grim spent in IRC arguing our opposing view points. The entire case was ugly form the start and it never has really been resolved. [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct/Archive/Hagnat/2008#2008.2C_January_31|When the issue resurfaced]] I tried to resolve the issue but Grim took my ruling as an attack on him instead of the request for compromise I meant it to be. In later misconduct cases things not much would change and around the same time there was an influx of promotion bids so, to me at least, it looked like certain users were trying to establish a controlling majority over misconduct rulings. That mixed with rather baseless accusations of being part of an "old boys club" made me lose all desire to remain a bureaucrat.- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 08:46, 7 June 2008 (BST)
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| ::Thanks for the (well-considered) answer. There certainly is a lot of pointless conflict around this wiki. It's alright when it's just polite intellectual dissension (in fact that sort of conflict is probably healthy) but when it gets into people speaking to each other to antagonise them, that's horrible. Sometimes I think it would be nice if each time there was a disagreement, like exact wording vs spirit of rules, the wiki sub-divided into two and people went to whichever group they wanted. It'd be like that saying that people get the government they deserve, and if someone had ridiculous views they couldn't impose them on others. By the way, I'm a bit late but good work on the image categorisation project. --[[User:Toejam|Toejam]] 02:06, 12 June 2008 (BST)
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| :::Thanks but the my contributions to image categorization were minimal at best. [[User:Boxy|Boxy]] championed the idea and [[User:Nubis|Nubis]] deserves a lot of the credit, he has categorized well beyond what I have done.- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 02:19, 12 June 2008 (BST)
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| ::::Thank you. [[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] and I worked very hard on that. I hope in the future that a sysop team eventually gets created that is more wiki oriented than policy directed. It's always a shame to see people that actually used to enjoy doing work and contributing leave. --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 03:51, 12 June 2008 (BST)
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| :::::Hey now, I'm still here. Does all my location blocking/fixing count for much? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:56, 12 June 2008 (BST)
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| == Template on user page ==
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| Hey, could you replace the wiki coma template on my user page to the one that Hagnat just made? {{tl|Gone}}
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| My page is protected, and I'd rather keep it that way. This should be the only change I make. --{{User:Dux Ducis/sig}} 14:07, 13 June 2008 (BST)
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| :Sure no problem , sorry this took me so long to get to this something seems to have gone afoul with in my notification system - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 12:56, 18 June 2008 (BST)
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| ::Nah, it's cool. I only logged in yesterday. Thanks. --{{User:Dux Ducis/sig}} 09:55, 22 June 2008 (BST)
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| ==Heya==
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| You still around?--<small><span style="border: 2px solid #DDD">[[User:Vista|'''<span style="background-color: Ivory; color:Black"> Vista </span>''']][[User_talk:Vista|<span style="background-color: #DDD; color: Ivory "> T </span>]]</span></small> 00:06, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
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| :Not really, I lurk on occasion but mostly to borrow formatting for other wikis, all my characters have idled out in game, and I have lost interest in wiki politics and mass categorization so without a project I feel like working on I have more or less drifted away. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 05:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
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| ::Yeah I thought so... to bad, I would've gone to your safe house again.--<small><span style="border: 2px solid #DDD">[[User:Vista|'''<span style="background-color: Ivory; color:Black"> Vista </span>''']][[User_talk:Vista|<span style="background-color: #DDD; color: Ivory "> T </span>]]</span></small> 05:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
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| :::Actually last I heard the safe house was still up but that was a month ago- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 07:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
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| :::It was up, then I got ransacked, then I died. {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 04:33, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
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| ::Ouch sorry about that then - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 04:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
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| == Last Merged Page ==
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| {{quote|Vantar|These may have been the last locations page that needed to have location blocks made - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 14:58, 11 June 2010 (BST)}}
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| [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] would like a word. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 15:04, 11 June 2010 (BST)
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| :Yes, but as far as I know those are all just merged page, the location blocks are created, they just need to be broken down into individual pages, for some of the streets in Reganbank I had to actually fill out the location block template. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 15:09, 11 June 2010 (BST)
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| ::I stand corrected. Then again I could be an ass and mention [[Pullin Square]] in all it's locationblock lacking glory. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 15:18, 11 June 2010 (BST)
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| :::Well if you are going for ass points just mention the fact that 99% of [[Monroeville]] and [[Borehamwood]] are unblocked still :) - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 15:27, 11 June 2010 (BST)
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| == Thanks for the help! ==
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| Thanks for your work demerging location pages. While the job was tedious, your assistance was invaluable in completing the task. As thanks for helping to improve this wiki, have template. {{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 01:20, 13 June 2010 (BST)
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| :No problem, glad to help out, just as long as we don't change the preferred [[LSG|location style]] back to merged again - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 01:30, 13 June 2010 (BST)
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| == Safehouse ==
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| Does [[User:Murdoc]] have permission to do [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Vantar%27s_Safehouse&diff=1732527&oldid=1720031 this]?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 17:29, 27 June 2010 (BST)
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| :Nope, but I'm pretty sure its an in game thing spilling into the wiki, If he does it again I'll take him to [[A/VB]] - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 18:35, 27 June 2010 (BST)
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| {{User:Clint Clintstone/sig}}4:46, 19 Mar. 11 (EST) | | {{User:Clint Clintstone/sig}}4:46, 19 Mar. 11 (EST) |
| | :Unfortunately its not my page to relinquish, my addition of a category just happened to be the last edit before the 2008 history wipe. But seeing how that means the original creator is unknown it been since 2007 since someone else did anything with the page I would say you would have a decent shot of freeing up the page name via [[A/D| the deletion page]] - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 00:36, 20 April 2011 (BST) |
| | ::Cool! Thanks for the tip. {{User:Clint Clintstone/sig}}10:14, 21 April 11 (EST) |
| | ==Long Time No See== |
| | Welcome back, where have you been hiding? --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:48, 22 April 2011 (BST) |
| | ::Thanks, Whenever people edit enough pages on my watchlist, I'm bound to turn up eventuality - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 02:05, 22 April 2011 (BST) |
| | :::Howd that compromised security thing go a few years back? All safe? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:44, 22 April 2011 (BST) |
| | ::::Yeah, it was an weird situation where someone had been able to get control of a few of my accounts and was using them spam the crap out of various forums I was a member of. Since the last thing the wiki needed was a spammer with admin powers I thought the best thing to do would be to step down until I could be sure that I'd closed off all their access points. But everything is good now. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 05:31, 22 April 2011 (BST) |
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| | ==The Dead Resurgence== |
| | Just thought I should leave a note regarding that page. It's more of a third representation of the group page, as the precedent lends one to each iteration of the groups resurgence. They're sorta just marking it as theirs. There's discussion on A/MR about it now if you're interested. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:14, 22 April 2011 (BST) |
| | :Er, it started as, basically, a stub event page want to be that got abandoned by the author then turned over to the group to claim as an actual content page for their own as a substitute for the group page they don't have access to. If that makes any sense. They basically gave the page a purpose and content in abusing it and claiming it as the wikiflag of their group.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:22, 22 April 2011 (BST) |
