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I maintain another policy for which there is not yet a template.  I call it the "You're the victim of a biased education policy."  Perhaps, it's more aptly described as a distinction or mark.  I would confer this to anyone that displays both the "I support socialism" and "I oppose fascism" templates.  Though I do not condone fascism, I realize that Nazis, at least, were Marxists; thus, having both templates on one's wiki page is academic and historical hypocrisy. (Feel free to offer other examples of fascist regimes, and I will show that they are/were socialists as well. I think this is best done on a case by case basis.)  I will offer the following support for my contention.
If your wiki page displays both the "I support socialism" and "I oppose fascism" templates, you are the victim of a biased education.  Though I do not condone fascism, I realize that Nazis, at least, were Marxists; thus, having both templates on one's wiki page is historically hypocritical. (Feel free to offer other examples of fascist regimes, and I will show that they are/were socialists as well. I think this is best done on a case by case basis.)  I will offer the following support for my contention.


Part of a speech delivered by Hitler on May 1, 1927:
Part of a speech delivered by Hitler on May 1, 1927:
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Moreover, after coming to power the Nazis required profits over 6% (8% in some cases) be forfeited for government debt financing.  The Nazis also expropriated land from churches and confiscated big estates from the bourgeoisie for use in collectivized agriculture.  I will stop my argumentation here, except to conclude that these policies are decidedly and admittedly Socialist.  Marx, in ''Critique of the Gotha Programme'', suggests and elucidates socialism as the nation-based transitory state between capitalism and communism.  In this light, we must find it hard, if not impossible, to separate Fascism from Socialism (omitting, of course, the Nazi's racism and associated war crimes which pragmatically fall beyond the consideration of 'type of government').
Moreover, after coming to power the Nazis required profits over 6% (8% in some cases) be forfeited for government debt financing.  The Nazis also expropriated land from churches and confiscated big estates from the bourgeoisie for use in collectivized agriculture.  I conclude that these policies are decidedly and admittedly Socialist.  Marx, in ''Critique of the Gotha Programme'', suggests and elucidates socialism as the nation-based transitory state between capitalism and communism.  In this light, we must find it hard, if not impossible, to separate Fascism from Socialism (omitting, of course, the Nazi's racism and associated war crimes which, I think pragmatically, fall beyond the consideration of 'type of government').

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If your wiki page displays both the "I support socialism" and "I oppose fascism" templates, you are the victim of a biased education. Though I do not condone fascism, I realize that Nazis, at least, were Marxists; thus, having both templates on one's wiki page is historically hypocritical. (Feel free to offer other examples of fascist regimes, and I will show that they are/were socialists as well. I think this is best done on a case by case basis.) I will offer the following support for my contention.

Part of a speech delivered by Hitler on May 1, 1927:

"We are socialists. We are enemies of today's capitalistic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

Goebbels in his 1928 book Der Angriff wrote:

"The worker in a capitalist state - that is his greatest misfortune - no longer a human being, no longer a creator, no longer a shaper of things. He has become a machine."

I also present a brief list of Nazi domestic economic policy proposals from the 1930s:

1. Ban the trading of stocks and bonds
2. Nationalize all large banks
3. Limit interest by law to 5 percent

Moreover, after coming to power the Nazis required profits over 6% (8% in some cases) be forfeited for government debt financing. The Nazis also expropriated land from churches and confiscated big estates from the bourgeoisie for use in collectivized agriculture. I conclude that these policies are decidedly and admittedly Socialist. Marx, in Critique of the Gotha Programme, suggests and elucidates socialism as the nation-based transitory state between capitalism and communism. In this light, we must find it hard, if not impossible, to separate Fascism from Socialism (omitting, of course, the Nazi's racism and associated war crimes which, I think pragmatically, fall beyond the consideration of 'type of government').