Template talk:V
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Example Usage:
{{V|Example|Not Vandalism|None Taken}}
| Verdict | Not Vandalism |
|---|---|
| Action taken | None Taken |
This Template is intended for inclusion on A/VB to simplify the larger number of templates currently inuse on that page to a single one. Please limit inclusions of this template as much as possible to prevent pages from hitting the inclusion limit due to over use and stick to the smaller {{{2}}} templates for Bot reports and the such.
V2.0
Cut out a number of things so this can now function as an actual template for inclusion purposes that way we can save some time on A/VB with filing new reports. Removed the substitution functionality as that's no way to run a template. Hopefully the relative ease of this template will help it see some use.--Karekmaps?! 05:52, 9 April 2011 (BST)
- Isn't it best to advise substing this in the example provided above (and any sample code placed in A/VB comments), since if A/VB hits the inclusion limit, all of these will break? It'd be a huge mess. —Aichon— 06:00, 9 April 2011 (BST)
- It's as likely either way actually as far as this template goes so the purpose here is simplicity. The header is currently a sticking point but I'll work on that more later. --Karekmaps?! 06:22, 9 April 2011 (BST)
- Mmm...I'm not sure we're on the same wavelength, so let me restate for clarity. Since this entire template is included on A/VB, if A/VB reaches its inclusion limit, which it has several times in the last year, we'll suddenly lose access to all verdicts, links to vandal data, etc. for everyone who has had a case that month. Basically, it has little to do with the complexity of this template itself, and more to do with its usage, which should always be via subst and never as an inclusion, otherwise we face that issue. That's what I was saying. —Aichon— 07:51, 9 April 2011 (BST)
- I understand perfectly well what you're saying. I was the one that started designing pages around here to prevent that issue, the reason you're running into it on A/VB is because of the use of the Bots page as a template and the inclusion of extraneous archives tables before the call. On top of that the goal here should be simplicity, ease of use, if inclusion size is so big of an issue that this one combined template call is the concern then I could simply make it the same as the other two templates but through code but you'd only lose something like 18kbs of inclusion per template which, actually, pretty close to all this would add per inclusion.--Karekmaps?! 08:14, 9 April 2011 (BST)
- As discussed on IRC (but added here for the benefit of anyone else reading this), I wasn't worried about this template breaking A/VB. I was worried about this template breaking when A/VB breaks. That's all I was getting at, but thinking about it some more, when inclusions break, we already lose the vndl and verdict templates anyway, so ensuring that the header is intact when inclusions break would be the only issue. —Aichon— 08:38, 9 April 2011 (BST)
- I understand perfectly well what you're saying. I was the one that started designing pages around here to prevent that issue, the reason you're running into it on A/VB is because of the use of the Bots page as a template and the inclusion of extraneous archives tables before the call. On top of that the goal here should be simplicity, ease of use, if inclusion size is so big of an issue that this one combined template call is the concern then I could simply make it the same as the other two templates but through code but you'd only lose something like 18kbs of inclusion per template which, actually, pretty close to all this would add per inclusion.--Karekmaps?! 08:14, 9 April 2011 (BST)
- Mmm...I'm not sure we're on the same wavelength, so let me restate for clarity. Since this entire template is included on A/VB, if A/VB reaches its inclusion limit, which it has several times in the last year, we'll suddenly lose access to all verdicts, links to vandal data, etc. for everyone who has had a case that month. Basically, it has little to do with the complexity of this template itself, and more to do with its usage, which should always be via subst and never as an inclusion, otherwise we face that issue. That's what I was saying. —Aichon— 07:51, 9 April 2011 (BST)
- It's as likely either way actually as far as this template goes so the purpose here is simplicity. The header is currently a sticking point but I'll work on that more later. --Karekmaps?! 06:22, 9 April 2011 (BST)
