Talk:XIII/Ronin Gallery
General Discussion
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Ronin Gallery Template?
Someone needs to make one! How can I, as an upstanding (or not-so-upstanding) UD wiki denizen, properly advertise and support anything without a template!?? --Jen 17:32, 19 September 2008 (BST)
Grandfathering of screenshots, please?
"Screenshots will not be accepted as evidence due to difficulty cross-referencing for duplicates."
Because I don't have an iwitness of LSvlad killing those three zambahz in a row. :( And that one really deserves to be recorded for posterity. --Jen 20:45, 19 September 2008 (BST)
- LSvlad was accepted, so screen caps have been grandfathered in, my friend. But it was exactly that really confusing batch of looong reports that made me say, "screw screen caps". See, with Iwitness I can just do a text search... With Iwitness I can pull up profile information with a click... I can cut and paste all the location text, etc. directly from the screenshot into the report. It's just so much more convienent and simple... Iwitness is also VERY easy to use. Just install the bookmarklet, and an Iwitness is 2 clicks away from any UD screen.
- That being said... unofficially, I suppose I may allow "special dispensions" for screen caps, if it's all you've got. **le sigh** But I really do prefer Iwitnesses.
- Thx, the MGMT. ;P --WanYao 00:09, 21 September 2008 (BST)
- Ah, I just changed the "rule"... I can do that, eh? ;P --WanYao 00:13, 21 September 2008 (BST)
Assaults
Instead of assigning a full Ronin point for people attempting to kill a zombie outside, you could specify a secondary class of trenchy like Ronin in Training or Wannabe Ronin.--William Told 21:02, 19 September 2008 (BST)
- I do not like the idea of different classes or categories of Ronin. Overcomplicates it all, and I want it simple. As it is now, it's as simple as it can possibly get. It also parallels the Rogues Gallery, who don't accept assaults -- and whose methodology this list in no way, shape or form is either emulating, or satirising. NEVAR!
- I was thinking maybe a half-point for an assist, though? Or, just like in hockey or football (aka soccer), a seperate column for "goals" (i.e., kills) and assists? I'm not sure.... and in any event, it won't be implemented until the beginning of the next "recording cycle"... What I mean by that is that the lists will get archived and we'll start from scratch either monthly or bi-monthly or quarterly... depending on how big the list gets... That was the basic idea I had in mind, and that's why I've titled the current list September 2008. --WanYao 00:20, 21 September 2008 (BST)
- I like the "half point for assists" idea. --Jen 00:28, 21 September 2008 (BST)
You know what? This list is already big enough, and time-consuming enough to maintain, as it is... that adding the extra pain in the arse of recording "half-kills" etc. would just be too much, I think. However, please do feel free to add "assist mentions" in the Comments cells... Sorry... --WanYao 19:44, 24 September 2008 (BST)
Regarding the definition of "babah" harmanz
- I think I'll just copy what I wrote to Jen about this... And explain why I usually do not consider level 5's babahz ... and why under no circumstances I consider a character with 6 harman skills to be a babah.'
Graaaagh... I don't wanna bicker with you... But, here's my logic in response to this: "Wan says that level 6 =/= babah, and that these guys have no excuse." Ok... Here's the thing... Normally people's 2nd or 3rd skill is going to be Free Running, right? And, if they have half a brain, one of the first 3 skills they get will be Diagnosis. So... Let's look at a generic, reasonably intelligent build for a level 5 survivor...Skills are not necessarily in the order you'd buy them...
- Free Running - duh.
- Diagnosis - excellent XP farming skill
- Construction - if you're not a totally selfish jerk, you buy this skill ASAP.
- Shopping - because malls rawk, even without the Bargain Hunting bonus.
- Any XP farming skill of your choice... DNA scanning is cool, so is "missing with an axe", or even beginning to get some Firearms skills.
So... here we have a Level 5 character with two different ways to farm XP, access to reasonable search success rates in the mall, plus they have Free Running and a skill that makes them useful to other survivors, i.e. Construction. This is a fully viable character and no longer a babah -- an adolscent, yes, a babah, no chance. And, you could be even a bit more XP-hoggish and forgo Construction or even Shopping (and stick with PDs, or perhaps just use an axe) or hell Diagnosis if you're a real trenchcoater... and get one or two or three(!) more combat skills. Therefore by level 5 are a probably a "young adult", by level 6 most certainly you are.
Sure, killing zombies in the street is a fast way to get XP... And level 6 is not a full grown up... But, once you hit level 5 or 6 you are a totally viable survivor and thereforenot a babah, not by any stretch of the imagination. --WanYao 23:57, 20 September 2008 (BST)
wtf NOT ronin???!?!?!!!1elves
Killing zombies inside st. ninian's?!?????????
http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/09-23-08_0900hrs_PRIVATE/OUT_90-15__64f-589-d7c.html
be these truly the end days? ;P --WanYao 09:32, 23 September 2008 (BST)
- Surely the second coming is at hand!
- ...actually, I think I'll save my doomsday hysteria for when someone from the BAR kills a zombie inside. Or cades the place, saints preserve us. And kudos to phibunsongkram -- only a level 2 survivor (err...technically level 3?), and already killing zambahz inside. --Jen 06:11, 24 September 2008 (BST)
- I killed this poor sod just a few minutes ago in St. Ninnie's: http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1359576 ... He was actually actively cading during a siege!!!... wtf CENTAURIONZ!>>>!>!>!!!>!> I almost feel bad for him... But he just wasn't fast enough... ;P --WanYao 06:16, 24 September 2008 (BST)
- Oh... isn't it ironic... the babahz are cading and clearing... while the level 41s (or 22s...)? Hmmmmmnnnn... --WanYao 06:17, 24 September 2008 (BST)
- Indeed. And what's more -- the DEM, the group people are always ragging on for not having the smartest gameplay -- seems to definitely comes out on top in all this. NOT ONLY do we not have a single record of them shooting zombies outside...we have a record of them CADING during a seige. I may have to reconsider that whole revolution gig and rethink my life, in all honesty. :( --Jen 06:21, 24 September 2008 (BST)
- Ahem* Boo-ya. That is all.--William Told 07:32, 24 September 2008 (BST)
- Let go of your conscious self, and the petty in-fightings of the old flesh. Embrace the joyful unity the New Flesh, follow the path of zombiesexvoodoodeath... It is your destiny. Search your feelings, Jen. You know this to be true. --WanYao 19:52, 24 September 2008 (BST)
- Ahem* Boo-ya. That is all.--William Told 07:32, 24 September 2008 (BST)
- Indeed. And what's more -- the DEM, the group people are always ragging on for not having the smartest gameplay -- seems to definitely comes out on top in all this. NOT ONLY do we not have a single record of them shooting zombies outside...we have a record of them CADING during a seige. I may have to reconsider that whole revolution gig and rethink my life, in all honesty. :( --Jen 06:21, 24 September 2008 (BST)
- Well...it may well be the end of days. A BAR member not only hacks at a zombie INSIDE during a seige...he makes (what I assume is) a wise use of combat-revive first. He admittedly doesn't cade, but a FOXHOUND member does.
- I know you asked us not to talk here any more, Wan...but look! *runs for cover, and prepares for the apocalypse*
A Miracle?
I spend 24 hours outside a ruined building, and NO ONE kills a zombie.
Now...if this had been St. Ninian's, and unruined...then it would have been a miracle without the question mark. And surely the end of days.
http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/09-26-08_0700hrs_PRIVATE/OUT_91-14_sorry_this_is_s_718-b42-d48.html
- That's because they're all dead,... or have have run far, far away... or, maybe they're just out of ammo after shooting all those zombies in the street for the last 2 weeks! --WanYao 07:34, 26 September 2008 (BST)
Zompocalypse, Now
WTFCentaurs?--Helgi Hundingsbane 21:14, 26 September 2008 (BST)
- Ahem* That is, WTF 9 kills? I am formally inviting all my zambah brazahs come to this trenchy haven and grind it into dust. --Helgi Hundingsbane 21:18, 26 September 2008 (BST)
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Nota bene: I will no longer accept raw screenshots as evidence. For numerous reasons, they're just too big a pain in the bum. Feel free to include them, but only Iwitnesses will be "official". Thanks for your understanding and ever-unquestioning compliance -- the MGMT.
