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| I confirm the existence of a river. Screenshot coming.
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| --[[User:Skritz|Skritz]]
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| :Does it effect movement? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::You can pass through the firts few tiles into the river normally, but the deeper areas are impassible. --[[User:Hunter X|Hunter X]] 20:22, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :::Alive or dead? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::::I forgot to save message, but it was saying that "it's getting too deep". template for location-blocking for the passable is {{tl|river76}} (it's lighter) and impassable {{tl|river85}} (it's darker) --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 22:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| | width=30 height=30 style="text-align: center; {{River76}}" | a river
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| | width=30 height=30 style="text-align: center; {{River85}}" | a river
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| | width=30 height=30 style="text-align: center; {{River85}}" | a river
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| | width=30 height=30 style="text-align: center; {{River76}}" | a river
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| | width=30 height=30 style="text-align: center; {{River76}}" | a river
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| i'm pretty sure the river is the border. quite witty, don't you find? --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 22:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :V. Clever =] {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 23:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::The river is used by Riq in tonights episode of Dead Set - [[User:Shaft121|Shaft121]] 16:02, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ==Big Brother House==
| | All content older than 1 year was moved to the archive [[Talk:Borehamwood/Archive|page]]. |
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| I wonder if it will follow the general layout as shown here: http://www.backdrifts.co.uk/bro.JPG ? I think I'll head for the south east. [[User:Iggles|Iggles]] 11:22, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :I think the map will be a lot smaller, since the competition is to end in one month. Maybe 3x4 or 4x4? We already know that it will be at least 3x3 (district names "<cardinaldirection> Borehamwood", but there is also Elstree, which is located southwest from Borehamwood. --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 11:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::That didn't mean much in Monroeville. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :::Looking at the map there might be a railway station in west or south-west Borehamwood --[[User:William2|William2]] 17:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::::Probably. There is a long train line. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 22:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :::::There's a railway station in SW BHW. "Elstre and Borehamwood Station." [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:Mapboresw.PNG] --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 22:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ==Creation==
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| I've replaced the blurb by Link The Window with some of the details we currently know. I've based it (read stolen from) on the Monroeville page. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 09:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| : No worries. That blurb was meant to be a stopgap anyway until more information was known. [[User:Linkthewindow|<span style="color: DodgerBlue">Linkthewindow</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Linkthewindow|<span style="color: DarkRed">Talk</span>]] </sup> 21:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == Automapper ==
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| Anyone know if a Firefox Automapper is being set up for Borehamwood? --[[User:Hunter X|Hunter X]] 10:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :[[User:Duke Garland]] made one for Monroe so ask him i guess.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::I set up a crude copy of the Malton Map, so we can add whatever we find. So far, I've seen a lot of fields and rivers. --[[User:Hunter X|Hunter X]] 10:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :::I doubt the city follows that structure. Check out the [[Monroeville]] map, it'll more likely resemble that. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:16, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::::There are alot of new things. Read found a gas station. I found a huge North to South railroad. I never made it to the end. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 10:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :::::We're talking about the map....but ja i saw those things too, fuckwit. Nah lol you're alright.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::::::It was a "petrol station", also, the pubs aren't just called "Blah Arms", they have full names, one was "The Boars Head". I don't know if this was a feature in Monroeville coz I rage quitted that shitness--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 11:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :::::::Petrol stations appear to start doors wide open. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:15, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| Oh yeah. Mapping. --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 19:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| You can see '''my''' progress at [[User:Duke_Garland/BHW]]. i'm adding other people's stuff only from iwitty this time, ''capice''? --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == Media in Borehamwood ==
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| Thought I'd share the local news with everyone.--[[User:DI Marc Sweeny|DI Sweeny]] 10:47, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| [[Image:BB paper1.jpg]]
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| [[Image:BB paper2.jpg]]
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| [[Image:BB paper3.jpg]]
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| [[Image:BB paper4.jpg]]
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| :Found a newspaper too (after using 15AP I ended up with 5 FAK's and one Newspaper). {{udspan|It's a recent tabloid. The main story seems to be about Marky from Big Brother.}} - [[User:Whitehouse]] 14:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == relationships ==
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| South B starts at y=66. Directly below central B. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:13, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :South B also starts at x=544, (unsurprisingly) directly east of SW B. --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 16:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::I have aligned South B suburb map so that location1 starts at 544-66, but I'm running out of the 10x10 grid to the south. I'll rest a bit and try to find southern border. --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 16:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ==Obvious==
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| Petrol stations contain fuel cans. I know. Amazing. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ==CCTV==
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| Not sure if this is unique to Borehamwood, but it's the first time I've noticed them.
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| {{udspan|In an unlit side room, you can see a darkened CCTV console.}} inside Grinter Terrace Police Station.
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| {{udspan|Mounted on the walls of the building are several CCTV cameras.}} outside Bewsey Grove Police Station.
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| {{udspan|A defunct cashpoint machine has a CCTV camera mounted above it.}} outside Haselshaw Bank.
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| I guess they are most likely just for flavor purposes. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 14:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :There was one outside the O'lEary building as well.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::I've seen several of them as well, with CCTV consoles mostly in police stations. A wild idea is, that once they are powered, we will be able to peek inside of the Big Brother house (check wikipedia for Dead Set episodes short synopsis, in one of them a character from outside does just that. Although, this being CCTV system, it will probably only monitor few nearby cameras. --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 16:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :::I think I found one in a street --[[User:William2|William2]] 16:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::::Yup, they're out there as well. --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 17:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| {{udspan|A battered portable generator has been set up here. It is running, and powering a dented radio transmitter that's currently set to 27.56 MHz. In a side room, you can see the glowing screen of a CCTV console.}}
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| Button "View CCTV" produces:
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| {{udspan|The console is showing a view of Denney Lane.}}
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| Button "Switch CCTV camera":
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| {{udspan|The screen flickers, and the console shows a view of Craddy Road.}}
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| Neither Denney Lane nor Craddy Road are amongst 1-block-away streets.
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| --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 19:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == Map Relations ==
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| So. Weve got all the compass points for Borehamwood now. What about these other 3 locations. Anyone know where they are in relation? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:13, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :They are also bigger than 10*10 areas. Please god automap! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::Jens scouting suggests 15*15 areas, with all the west being transected by a railway line. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :::I dunno...I'd bet it's probably more like Monroeville, with all sorts of crazy boundaries. :( A nice clean 15x15 would be much easier to figure out, though, so I hope you're right.
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| :::In either case...BWHAHAHA! ANOTHER HARDCORE MAP! I think I'm going to be abandoning Malton for a while... :D --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 17:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::::Yep. If extinction overtake the pask building today, we'll know why. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :::::Ive created the [[Template:Railway]] so it can be mapped. Garages are the same as autorepairs aren't they? Not as garages, its just how theyve been marked on some maps. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| I set up a basic grid on the map - it doesn't update dangers - but it will almost certainly need expanding and moving. --[[User:Hunter X|Hunter X]] 18:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :Its a start though. I'll add a note. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::Here's some corners: --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 21:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::[[Image:Mapborecorners.PNG|200px]]
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| ==Suburb Templates==
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| At the moment they're all geared towards Malton, and as such are full of non relevant stuff. Ive stolen some basic stuff from the monroeville maps and mocked up a basic one for [[Northwest Borehamwood]] (Just altered the template code and pasted it) improve, or steal the code, whatever. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == Main Page ==
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| Can someone with the appropriate privilages add a link to Borehamwood on the index of the wiki please? --[[User:Hunter X|Hunter X]] 20:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :Dont know if anyone is online. Ive added a link in the news section at the top of the page for now, --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == Mall? ==
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| If anyone finds a mall I and probably a lot of other people would like to know. So if you find one, post here and tell us which part of the city it's in. Thanks. --[[User:Robert Riste|Robert Riste]] 22:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :I managed to stumble upon Borehamwood Shopping Centre, in East Borehamwood. Here's a screenshot: http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/10-29-08_0300hrs_PRIVATE/OUT_570-56_1_4df-b3e-439.html.
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| :: by the way, it's coordinates are from 570-56 to 571-67. --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 08:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == Bloodied Eye ==
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| My most sincere apologies if this has already been posted or if I am doing this incorrectly. Has anyone else seen a Bloodied Eye spraypainted on a wall? Here is a screenshot: http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36738052ls1.png
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| :Yes, check the article, "Playing in Borehamwood" section, near the top. I have seen several of those across the city. --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 00:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == Ruined Abbey ==
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| There's a new building type, the ruined abbey. I don't know if it's the only one, but it's located in East BHW. it's 2x2.
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| It's strange. I can't close its doors - there's not button for it - but I did successfully barricade it with a length of pipe.
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| http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/10-29-08_1600hrs_PUBLIC/IN_581-65_pipe_505-d80-979.html [[User:Leon Rosenfeld|Leon Rosenfeld]] 16:52, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :the fact that you barricaded it with a pipe looks like a good thing to write about on [[Bug Reports]] --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::This can be seen in tonights episode of Dead Set when Riq lands from the boat - [[User:Shaft121|Shaft121]] 16:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ==The North West corner==
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| Looking at Dukes map does [[Northwest Borehamwood]] extend all the way to the NW corner? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :North west? you mean upper left? ;) --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:18, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == [[ALiB|Amusing Locations in Borehamwood]] ==
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| Hiaz. If you seen any potential ALiB lolcations please feel free to add them to the [[ALiB|list]]! Similiar to [[ALiMv]], ALiB operates around a temporary town so there's no requirements or community consultation, if you think it's funny '''chuck it on the list'''! --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == Naming whilst mapping ==
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| By and large there will be no location pages for individual locations (that is specific named places rather than generic buildings such as "a factory") in Borehamwood yet.
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| If our intrepid mappers could please check their links after they update their entries, if their link is blue (i.e. live) then chances are that it's a name already used by a place in Malton. As per wiki naming conventions the link should be altered.
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| For example, The Shiel Building is in both Malton and West Borehamwood.
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| The link <nowiki>[[The Shiel Building]]</nowiki> directs a user to [[The Shiel Building]] in Malton.
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| The Borehamwood link should be rendered as <nowiki>[[The Shiel Building (Borehamwood)|The Shiel Building]]</nowiki> which will be a red (i.e. dead) link until the page is created, for example [[The Shiel Building (Borehamwood)|The Shiel Building]].
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| In time disambiguation pages will need to be made to allow users to find the two locations from one search, and utilising these naming conventions now will allow us to find them easier to perform these tasks.
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| Doing this helps the newbies find where there are, especially players who have come aboard with this new promotion and may not yet be familiar with Malton.
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| Cross posting this to all Borehamwood suburb talk pages so that everyone sees it.
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| Cheers. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :IMHO wikilinks should be removed from maps. I insisted on it for Monroeville and want to have the same here. City is temporary, no autoblocking, please. big locations, like Mall, ruined abbey, etc. - fine, just like articles from [[:Category:Monroeville Complexes]] --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 12:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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| ::I agree, no wikilinks by default. Anyone can add a wikilink later, if they feel the building is important (group HQ or something). --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 13:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :::Sure thing it'd be much easier and faster. Should the wikilinks to "a factory", "a carpark" etc. be removed as well? --[[User:Janus Abernathy|Janus Abernathy]] 13:29, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == Elstree Studios ==
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| south of [[Elstree]] lies [[Elstree Studios]]. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]]</sup> 13:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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| == Big Brother Building ==
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| I would like to ask everybody who finds the location of the big brother building to NOT tell where it is. Let others find it on their own. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]]</sup> 15:53, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :So what do you expect the mappers to do when it's found? Leave a big blank on the map? Seriously, someone post it soon so I can enter the competition and get on with actually playing. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 15:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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| :: No you're not! --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 16:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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