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::::::::We've looked into all of that, and since I was the one that wrote the base code that this all operates on and I already tried trimming as much as I could find that's unnecessary, you'll have a hard time condensing it further. The two things eating up space at this point are the names of the DangerReports and the variables contained within them. Since we can't go changing the variables around without gutting the entire DangerReport system, the only thing I can think of that would help would be to have Thegeneralbot move all 10,000 of the DangerReport pages to their corresponding coordinates (e.g. User:DangerReport/xx,yy), rather than their names, then set up the names as redirects to the coordinates. After that, it would be good if it could go through all 100 of these templates and replace the names with their corresponding coordinates. The space savings from doing so would be pretty darn close to making this thing possible, I would think. Otherwise, yeah, if we cut some information by only doing TRPs or the like we could probably have some success. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:55, 6 September 2012 (BST) | ::::::::We've looked into all of that, and since I was the one that wrote the base code that this all operates on and I already tried trimming as much as I could find that's unnecessary, you'll have a hard time condensing it further. The two things eating up space at this point are the names of the DangerReports and the variables contained within them. Since we can't go changing the variables around without gutting the entire DangerReport system, the only thing I can think of that would help would be to have Thegeneralbot move all 10,000 of the DangerReport pages to their corresponding coordinates (e.g. User:DangerReport/xx,yy), rather than their names, then set up the names as redirects to the coordinates. After that, it would be good if it could go through all 100 of these templates and replace the names with their corresponding coordinates. The space savings from doing so would be pretty darn close to making this thing possible, I would think. Otherwise, yeah, if we cut some information by only doing TRPs or the like we could probably have some success. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:55, 6 September 2012 (BST) | ||
:::::::::Now that I think of it, having Thegeneralbot edit the message for out of date blocks to be something like, "This block needs to be updated," instead of, "This report has not been updated in over a month. Please update if you can," may make a big difference. At this point now, pretty much any improvements will need to happen in the DangerReport, rather than in the map's code. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:08, 6 September 2012 (BST) | :::::::::Now that I think of it, having Thegeneralbot edit the message for out of date blocks to be something like, "This block needs to be updated," instead of, "This report has not been updated in over a month. Please update if you can," may make a big difference. At this point now, pretty much any improvements will need to happen in the DangerReport, rather than in the map's code. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:08, 6 September 2012 (BST) | ||
:::::::::: The map now is 800x800. Purely aesthetical question: could we get rid of the white space in between each suburb? | |||
Revision as of 16:32, 6 September 2012
What happened to the ones that were done on the first line? -- Johnny Twotoes 02:07, 4 September 2012 (BST)
- Had to remove a few as I went along so I could check the map. I see you're working on it already.Charles Whipplebotum 02:14, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- This is as far as it goes. Damn man, you churned through about 9500 blocks of land in under a month o.O -- Johnny Twotoes 02:17, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- Awesome work. And I do mean awesome, as in, inducing awe. Can't say I can recall ever having seen anyone singlehandedly undertake such a large project in so little time on the wiki. —Aichon— 05:02, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- Credit where credit is due, the idea was mine and fun and all, but the bulk of the work was done by Charles, who inspired more awe in me than I can recall ever having experienced before. -- Johnny Twotoes 05:10, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- It's so close to having all the suburbs on the map! Is there not some way to increase the inclusion limit, or even make a single exception? --Klexur 05:17, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- Pretty sure that involves Kevan, and I don't see it happening :( We can use them on suburb pages tho, individually, or in quadrants? -- Johnny Twotoes 05:22, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- Have you thought about excluding a building type or two from the map? There are 234 hotels/motels and about the same number of libraries. Perhaps make them brown or reddish-green (I know reddish-green is not a color but you know what I mean). You could eliminate 500 or so template calls. Only other thing I can think of i tto exclude the corner burbs. Nobody cares much for them anyway. ~
05:30, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe we can distill it down to a TRP status map, but that will probably mean making a new template for each suburb, since we're keeping these for future projects (and it's still kind of nice and 500 template calls won't cut it, since we're missing about 17% of the map right now). Excluding the corners really is against the whole idea, but any other ideas are always welcome. -- Johnny Twotoes 13:52, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- Yeah the corners thing was said half jokingly. I tried trimming down some of the original code last night but with no success. I'll take a look at some other things when I have a moment. The whole danger report system relies on lots of moving parts which means more templates are being expanded than you are probably aware of. I'm pretty sure Rooster made them as lean and efficient as possible when he created the system, bu you never know. The fact the User namespace was used rather than Template namespace probably is causing additional isses but its way too late to fix that now. Even if redirect templates are made (i.e. Template:xx,yy) I don't think it will help. If we can get it working, I have one request. Can you make the map 800x800 rather than 1000x1000? I don't like side-scrolling over to view the entire map.~ 16:02, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
- We've looked into all of that, and since I was the one that wrote the base code that this all operates on and I already tried trimming as much as I could find that's unnecessary, you'll have a hard time condensing it further. The two things eating up space at this point are the names of the DangerReports and the variables contained within them. Since we can't go changing the variables around without gutting the entire DangerReport system, the only thing I can think of that would help would be to have Thegeneralbot move all 10,000 of the DangerReport pages to their corresponding coordinates (e.g. User:DangerReport/xx,yy), rather than their names, then set up the names as redirects to the coordinates. After that, it would be good if it could go through all 100 of these templates and replace the names with their corresponding coordinates. The space savings from doing so would be pretty darn close to making this thing possible, I would think. Otherwise, yeah, if we cut some information by only doing TRPs or the like we could probably have some success. —Aichon— 16:55, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- Now that I think of it, having Thegeneralbot edit the message for out of date blocks to be something like, "This block needs to be updated," instead of, "This report has not been updated in over a month. Please update if you can," may make a big difference. At this point now, pretty much any improvements will need to happen in the DangerReport, rather than in the map's code. —Aichon— 17:08, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- The map now is 800x800. Purely aesthetical question: could we get rid of the white space in between each suburb?
- Now that I think of it, having Thegeneralbot edit the message for out of date blocks to be something like, "This block needs to be updated," instead of, "This report has not been updated in over a month. Please update if you can," may make a big difference. At this point now, pretty much any improvements will need to happen in the DangerReport, rather than in the map's code. —Aichon— 17:08, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- We've looked into all of that, and since I was the one that wrote the base code that this all operates on and I already tried trimming as much as I could find that's unnecessary, you'll have a hard time condensing it further. The two things eating up space at this point are the names of the DangerReports and the variables contained within them. Since we can't go changing the variables around without gutting the entire DangerReport system, the only thing I can think of that would help would be to have Thegeneralbot move all 10,000 of the DangerReport pages to their corresponding coordinates (e.g. User:DangerReport/xx,yy), rather than their names, then set up the names as redirects to the coordinates. After that, it would be good if it could go through all 100 of these templates and replace the names with their corresponding coordinates. The space savings from doing so would be pretty darn close to making this thing possible, I would think. Otherwise, yeah, if we cut some information by only doing TRPs or the like we could probably have some success. —Aichon— 16:55, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- Yeah the corners thing was said half jokingly. I tried trimming down some of the original code last night but with no success. I'll take a look at some other things when I have a moment. The whole danger report system relies on lots of moving parts which means more templates are being expanded than you are probably aware of. I'm pretty sure Rooster made them as lean and efficient as possible when he created the system, bu you never know. The fact the User namespace was used rather than Template namespace probably is causing additional isses but its way too late to fix that now. Even if redirect templates are made (i.e. Template:xx,yy) I don't think it will help. If we can get it working, I have one request. Can you make the map 800x800 rather than 1000x1000? I don't like side-scrolling over to view the entire map.~
- Maybe we can distill it down to a TRP status map, but that will probably mean making a new template for each suburb, since we're keeping these for future projects (and it's still kind of nice and 500 template calls won't cut it, since we're missing about 17% of the map right now). Excluding the corners really is against the whole idea, but any other ideas are always welcome. -- Johnny Twotoes 13:52, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- Have you thought about excluding a building type or two from the map? There are 234 hotels/motels and about the same number of libraries. Perhaps make them brown or reddish-green (I know reddish-green is not a color but you know what I mean). You could eliminate 500 or so template calls. Only other thing I can think of i tto exclude the corner burbs. Nobody cares much for them anyway. ~
- Pretty sure that involves Kevan, and I don't see it happening :( We can use them on suburb pages tho, individually, or in quadrants? -- Johnny Twotoes 05:22, 6 September 2012 (BST)
- This is as far as it goes. Damn man, you churned through about 9500 blocks of land in under a month o.O -- Johnny Twotoes 02:17, 6 September 2012 (BST)
