Talk:Big Coffin Hunters/Kick 'Em Low!

On Hold

As of 6/23/2010, the Hang 'Em High competition was officially put on hold to deal with the reemergence of the zerging zombie group, the Angry Vaginas. While I know you'll continue to shoot the DA (and friends?) as usual, any kills made during this time should not be counted on your competition's scoreboard, given that your competition is supposed to run side by side with the DA's.--Mrgomez 18:07, 23 June 2010 (BST)

In case you may like to know, HEH will be wrapping up soon. It will restart on August 2nd and run till the 6th.--Tyx94 23:23, 29 July 2010 (BST)

Not invited?

I get the impression that you guys completely missed the aim of the competition. It's cute though that you feel left out, but they couldn't rightly invite the targets of the game to play along. You could just keep killing yourselves and win big happy funtime! I'm sure they wouldn't mind you killing yourselves on their behalf, only it's just so unsporting. In all honesty, I am quite happy that you've decided to hold this festivity alongside the DA's. It'll make things much more interesting.--Mrgomez 23:52, 7 June 2010 (BST)

We get the aim, but it's just typical of the DA to ignore the most challenging aspect of a "PKer hunt" (I use the term PKer loosely). That is, how often they themselves die. As usual the DA just ignores anything related to their opposition. It's a lot more flattering to them that way. It's much easier for "Pro-Surviviors" (I also use that term loosely) to get revives (in this case probably thanks mostly to your own groups excellent RP services, considering that the DA has had their own burb held hostage to zombies for...well for as long as I can remember. You wouldn't know that if you just relied on their "news" though :) ) and run out their AP killing someone without regard for hiding and knowing they can rely on the easy support system of Ammo/RP/Healing services. It's a bit more tricky for someone that needs to always be moving, can't stay out in the open, has more trouble getting revives, etc.

Why no "trophy" for the BHer that manages to die the least for instance? It's not so much that we "feel left out" (as we can't really participate within the rules that the DA has set up, naturally) but that we are trying to provide a view of the side of this "competition" of theirs that they conspicuously leave out. What glory is there is scoring the highest number of kills if you die just as often. We're just doing our (limited) part to complete the picture. I know that the DA are your "friends" and all but even you must understand how one sided their propaganda always is; this competition of theirs just being yet another example. --DeWolf 02:43, 8 June 2010 (BST)

Well put, but I disagree. This is a competition to see who can score the most kills from people on their list. It isn't a competition to be the best "PKer"(I use this in the sense of one that kills "Pro-Survivor" characters on a regular basis), playing as PKers do. They're not trying to outplay the way you do it, just have a competition to kill you guys as much as possible. There was never a pretense of this either. As for scoring the most kills and dying the most often, I would indeed think this to be much harder than scoring the most kills, and hardly dying at all. Both involve the expenditure of extra AP(provided they move at all), but dead people have to spend time waiting to revive, then AP on healing and getting back inside. A large part of dying a lot or not is attributed to luck, and to have the bad luck and come out on top is the more challenge. Now if they are just standing there after a kill, just be happy your quarry is that dumb. Given the added limitation on your competition of having a lesser support structure, I'm sure yours will be more challenging. Congratulations. But do you think your game would be less fun if another group was doing the same thing but with the added stipulation that they would only use axes? Would you feel that they miss the point if they claimed you weren't representing the full story by not playing their game over your own?--Mrgomez 18:42, 8 June 2010 (BST)

I think your whole 'competition' is idiotic, frankly. Hang 'Em High is not just a competition to hunt down the BCH. Sorry, but you're not that important. There's plenty of other PKers to hunt as well. Looking at your Kick Em Low stats page, you've got more kills on DA members than they have on you. But is that a surprise? You're a small, 5(?) man group, mobile and constantly hiding. The DA are large, easy to find groups, that maintain bases for the public's security. Basically, they're much easier to find than you. So you should have more kills on them than they on you. If you didn't, honestly, I'd have to call you pretty horrible PKers.--Tyx94 01:54, 21 June 2010 (BST)

Well it's a good thing we hold your opinion in such high esteem then. Plenty of other "PKers" to hunt? Let me guess: the ones that stand in your resource buildings and stretch out their own throats for you. I understand your point about us being small and hard to find but that cuts both ways. They DA have 55 guys, 30+ B.A.R. guys, 5 Earletown Rangers, plus freelancers. 90+ guys and they can't find us. Personally, I think that having around 100 hunters looking for us and failing while we snipe them off one by one is some sort of accomplishment.

But the real interesting thing is your claim of the DA "maintaining bases for the public's security". Really? Have you SEEN Dulston/Rhodenbank lately? If that's their idea of maintaining public security then... The fact that they are having a "PKer hunt" at this time speaks volumes and only reinforces our point: The DA are not out to maintain anything (I'm doubt they are actually capable). Having a "PKer" right now is like Tony Hayward off yachting while the Gulf is being destroyed. This is the DA. This is why they must die. :) --DeWolf 05:35, 21 June 2010 (BST)

I don't think you get it. "100 hunters looking for us and failing while we snipe them off one by one". That's kind of exactly my point. Good to know you understand English. Now, how can explain this in better terms...?

Look, first off, you aren't being hunted by 100 people. Last time I checked, the scoreboard has less than 15 hunters. So no, there isn't an endless army trying to hunt you down. Secondly, yes, we are killing those other PKers. Because, and let's face it, most of them are more annoying than you. They don't care if they die, which means they don't need to waste valuable AP running away and hiding (unlike some people I know...). Which equals more kills for them in long run. Lastly, kill as many of us as you want. Hell, let's say each one of you manages to kill 4 people at a time, and still manage to run and hide. Let's see, that means there's still about, I dunno, 80-90 people left to revive the killed. And a dedicated reviver will be able to revive 4 people a day. Huh. Looks like you guys are never going to be more than an annoyance. Face it, you're about as fearsome to us as musty styrofoam.--Tyx94 16:24, 21 June 2010 (BST)

Yes I got that you think we're inconsequential the first time there, big guy. I don't quite believe you though as if you truly thought that you probably wouldn't come here and attempt to impress it upon us. You would probably just ignore us. But none of that really matters.

Your assertion that we are inconsequential (real or imagined) is immaterial. I, personally, enjoy the act of killing a douchebag. It brings me great joy! I also enjoy the challenge of tracking prey and evading hunters. So, the more often the douchebags I target revive each other the more often I get to kill them. It's all win. We are playing a game purposely designed so that nothing one does every truly matters. You have to find fun in your own way or there really is no point at all. --DeWolf 17:23, 21 June 2010 (BST)

Observation

OK-I feel I must comment: First-anyone who uses Calvin + Hobbes clearly has high standards. Nice job. Second: As an American I feel it is important that John Cleese be given credit for the World Series joke as in "As John Cleese once said..." and in case you haven't heard the whole thing it is that "There are three differences between we British and you Americans; 1) We speak English and you don't, 2) When we have a world championship we invite teams from other nations to play, and 3) When you meet the head of state in England you are only expected to get on one knee." (note: this was shortly after the Monica Lewinsky-Bill Clinton scandal-ouch!) So here we have an interesting situation: The Rangers have joined the DA because of the help they have given us on numerous occasions. They have been good friend to us. So I suppose that makes us foes and yet, aside from the colorful language, I must admit I like the challenge as you have outlined it-I like your style. Allow me to let my favorite Doc Holliday sum it up for me:

Johnny Ringo: [Ringo steps up to Doc] And you must be Doc Holliday. Doc Holliday: That's the rumor. Johnny Ringo: You retired too? Doc Holliday: Not me. I'm in my prime. Johnny Ringo: Yeah, you look it. Doc Holliday: And you must be Ringo. Look, darling, Johnny Ringo. The deadliest pistoleer since Wild Bill, they say. What do you think, darling? Should I hate him? Kate: You don't even know him. Doc Holliday: Yes, but there's just something about him. Something around the eyes, I don't know, reminds me of... me. No. I'm sure of it, I hate him. Wyatt Earp: [to Ringo] He's drunk. Doc Holliday: In vino veritas. ["In wine is truth" meaning: "When I'm drinking, I speak my mind"] Johnny Ringo: Age quod agis. ["Do what you do" meaning: "Do what you do best"] Doc Holliday: Credat Judaeus apella, non ego. ["The Jew Apella may believe it, not I" meaning: "I don't believe drinking is what I do best."] Johnny Ringo: [pats his gun] Eventus stultorum magister. ["Events are the teachers of fools" meaning: "Fools have to learn by experience"] Doc Holliday: [gives a Cheshire cat smile] In pace requiescat. ["Rest in peace" meaning: "It's your funeral!"] Tombstone Marshal Fred White: Come on boys. We don't want any trouble in here. Not in any language. Doc Holliday: Evidently Mr. Ringo's an educated man. Now I really hate him.

So Gentlemen, My card that you may know me: Ed Zeplin DSS Satellite Phone NUMBER 884-4022 . I fear I may disappoint as a "Shootist" (Pker is such a unsavory and misleading term, don't you agree?) because although my alt in the RSVP has worked with some of the best hunters in the game, I do not hunt very well myself and Ed Zeplin is more of a support player. But I will try to live up to the task given your rules as outlined for I'm a sporting man and I admire the way you have set this up. To again quote my favorite Doc Holliday from a different version: Doc Holliday: John (Should I say the DA Lads) here has been a good friend to me when many others would not. *Dave Rutabagh* is an ignorant scoundrel! I disapprove of his very existence. I considered ending it myself on several occasions, but... self-control always got the better of me. [takes a slug of whiskey] Doc Holliday: Besides, I'm a sporting man. I'm not a killer. [goes into a coughing fit] Frank Mclaury: You're next on my list, Holliday. You better get used to seeing my face, 'cause it's the last thing you're gonna see. Doc Holliday: McLaury, seeing your face would be a pleasant change. I understand most of your enemies got it in the back.

I Look forward to our rivalry, Ecrasez L'infame! Rien n'est beau que le vrai!--Belisarius17 02:44, 9 June 2010 (BST)

I knew there was something I liked about the Rangers. That you appear to be a Warren Zevon fan does not hurt either. Also, apologies to John Cleese; I knew I was stealing from someone but I didn't know it was him.

Personally, I would have preferred to maintain our non-target policy with you Rangers. I would have just killed HiteiKan and tried to call it even. Lord Thanos is another matter. I don't think I could reign him in now if I tried. He's sort of gone on a killing spree even before the vote over the non-target policy has finished. But I'm not big on trying to force anyone to do anything.

I prefer the term shootist as well. We're not mad dog killers over here at BCH, after all. In fact, the average citizens and most groups are perfectly safe from us. I'm personally not adverse to killing the sort of mindless killer that targets random people for no reason. That sort needs to be put down IMO.

Anyway, once Hang Em High ends (and Lord Thanos gets it out of his system) I hope we can settle back into a neutral stance. --DeWolf 03:44, 9 June 2010 (BST)

Well said, and D'accord. I took the liberty of lifting your Carlin template for my user page, hope you don't mind-but I just had to have it. Regarding Cleese: just thought you might like the whole joke. About Lord Thanos-who can blame a hunted man for hitting back-certainly not me, but I would pass this along-Lord Thanos, if you need to get this out of your system, I'll be your huckleberry-just look for me @ the barber shop at the Adney Hotel...say this weekend? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh3xpSJwmk4

Ed Zeplin DSS Satellite Phone NUMBER 884-4022 --Belisarius17 16:42, 9 June 2010 (BST)

Thought a template might be in order:--Belisarius17 05:59, 10 June 2010 (BST)

	This user is a Shootist not a PKer
	I won't be wronged, or insulted, or laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, I require the same of them. - John B. Books I disapprove of his very existence. I considered ending it myself on several occasions, but ... self-control always got the better of me. Besides, I'm a sporting man. I'm not a killer. - Doc Holliday