UDWiki talk:Administration/Arbitration/Amazing vs. MaulMachine(2)

Maul still Vandalizes

Here. Ban, please thank you k gg domo arigato. -- Amazing 18:42, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

You can also see Maul's total lie above because he DID post on the CDF page here though he said he did not. This goes to his character. -- Amazing 18:45, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

I said I did, would you read the fucking posts? MaulMachine 18:46, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

You started with "I need hardly point out that until this time, I had refrained from posting on Amazing or CDF pages because of the ruling," Make no further reply to me here. There will not be another flame war. Thanks. -- Amazing 18:48, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

What, I'm not allowed to post warnings now? MaulMachine 18:51, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

To clarify: You are allowed to post wherever you want, just don't lie and say you didn't. To Mods: This is my last comment on this subject here, this is a promise. -- Amazing 18:57, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Waiting on the ban for his last vandalization comitted after two final warnings while he continues to make shiz up and draw out conflict. Just FYI. -- Amazing 19:00, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)

That last thing about not posting again sure didn't last long, did it. MaulMachine 19:14, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)

"last comment on this subject" - I was talking to the Mod team about action. -- Amazing 19:26, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)

He's not being banned because the edit he reverted was clearly POV and probably belonged on a talk page. Whether or not it's true is not what the rules are set out to enforce. --LibrarianBrent 13:28, 1 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Linking to another section of the Wiki is not POV. :\ -- Amazing 18:00, 1 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Um, it is when you use a POV sentence as the link text. --Spiro 04:39, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

No it isn't. The sentence stated what the link was to. Would you prefer it was "THIS IS A LINK - CLICK TO FIND OUT WHAT TO! LOL"? -- Amazing 05:31, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Your sentence was "LCD higher-up MaulMachine seems to be turning traitor on Caiger"; it would be NPOV if it said "LCD higher-up MaulMachine is running a zombie alt" or something. MaulMachine's zombie character presumably isn't a member of LCD. --Spiro 05:38, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

First of all the Zombie character's name at the time WAS MaulMachine. You're probably just not informed about the specifics of it, which is of course to be expected since it's a lot of trivial stuff. MaulMachine is the name of a character that was running LCD at one point, then became a Brain Rot zombie helping the Mall Tour. The name "MaulMachine" was the name of the Brain Rot zombie - the zombie was not an ALT of a different name but the character whose name he uses here and beyond as his screen name. My statement was not out of line in the least. The text says "Seems to be" which is NPOV. To some, including myself, he seemed to be. The difference between POV and NPOV in this case are those magic words. It's 100% Non-POV in every way. If I had said: "MAULMACHINE IS A TRAITER, EVERYONE!! 100% PROOF!!" that would be different. Saying someone seems to be doing something which they are clearly doing is not POV biased commentary. People can post: "RRF is attacking!" on a page and that's NOT POV, it's what's occurring. "MaulMachine seems to be turning traitor" is NOT POV, it's what seems to be occurring.

Second of all there's a LIST OF SPIES AND PKERS RIGHT ON THE FRONT PAGE and you're calling my comment POV when it said someone "seems" to be a traitor. Double standard. Case Closed. -- Amazing 05:44, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

The character's name isn't MaulMachine, you fail. MaulMachine 14:17, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Yes it is. You shifted Omar to LCD and moved MaulMachine to the Zed side when you bought brain rot. -- Amazing 18:06, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

No, it was MaulMachine's return. MaulMachine 18:11, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Don't argue semantics. -- Amazing 18:12, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Stop lying.MaulMachine 18:15, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

I linked to a page where YOU HELPED THE MALL TOUR and listed the link as saying you SEEMED TO BE A TRAITOR. There is NO LIE THERE AT ALL. Stop acting, you know it's true. -- Amazing 18:20, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

I'm not a traitor and you know it. MaulMachine 18:28, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

I read where you helped the Mall Tour. I saw it in black and white with my own eyes. You were not hacked and you admit to posting it yourself. So in reality, I know you are a traitor. You need to stop clogging up this page with your defensive misdirection and childish backpeddling. -- Amazing 18:35, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

It'snot backpeddling if I don't deny the truth. All you ever do is lie and whine, and if you had actually bothered to read the speech I made a few pages up, you would have known that I said I had helped the Mall Tour days ago. I never swore fealty to you or the CMS, so I'm not a traitor. Now do shut up. MaulMachine 18:42, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Oh well. Maul admits to being a traitor, then says that he isn't a traitor. Whatever, I'm done. Ban Maul for Vandalism and I'll get a 24 hour respite. Whew. -- Amazing 18:43, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

For the last damn time, IT IS NOT TREACHERY TO PLAY AS A ZOMBIE.MaulMachine 18:46, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Try to understand you have no right to delete the posts that say it is. -- Amazing 18:53, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

BAN. NOW. Do your job, Mods. -- Amazing 18:06, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

AND AGAIN. LCD has moved to another Suburb in UD, and I posted this fact. Ban this vandal immediately. -- Amazing 18:53, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

AND AGAIN. -- Amazing 19:31, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

GOD DAMN YOU, STOP THIS BULLSHIT! YOU ARE NOT AN LCD! DO NOT PRESUME TO POST IN OUR NAME! MaulMachine 19:32, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

AND AGAIN. It's not posted in your name. -- Amazing 19:34, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Liberation of crossman department is our name. Ban this vandal at once, please! MaulMachine 19:36, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

You've been warned twice. Stop vandalizing. It's in the area where the information belongs. AND AGAIN. -- Amazing 19:38, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Amazing, stop vandalizing the damned pages! We are not leaving Caiger! Stop posting this! i take comfort that you will be vandalbanned soon.

AND AGAIN. Is there no Mod on duty... ever? -- Amazing 19:43, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Mods, Amazing's actions are clearly designed to provoke me so that he can try to get me banned for deleting his vandalism. I would ask that a ban be leveled at him ASAP. I should not have to stay on the wiki at all times just to delete his garbage. He has changed my posts, he has lied to you and he has lied about my group. I cannot stand for this. I refuse to accept thjat what he has done here is anything but against the rules.

I have not changed any of your posts or lied at any time. Try backing up your baloney. -- Amazing 19:43, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

OK : http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Caiger_Mall_Survivors&diff=0&oldid=119062

Heeeyyy, Now you know how a Wiki works! :D Your post is highly POV but I don't have a problem with it. A ban for past behavior will still be needed, but I think you've got the idea now. -- Amazing 19:47, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

You DO need a ban. In fact, we should take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. MaulMachine 19:55, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Why not use Torchwood instead, MaulMachine? I can give you temporary access to it . . . (P.S. - I don't care who's right and who's wrong, but judging by the evidence I've seen this looks to be an attempted frame-job on Amazing's part. Is there anything in the rules about that?) --John Taggart 20:02, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

All I did was link to MAUL'S POST and HIS DELETIONS. Don't alledge shit like that. If I don't revert his edits, that's like saying I'm okay with them - This has been stated in previous Mod actions. If you don't act, you may be seen as accepting the deletion. Don't you ever make a baseless accusation like that against me again. Try reading the post I linked to and you'll see Maul himself posted it, there's no need for any framing. Do you think I ran over and held his hand over the Backspace key? Get real. If someone was listed as a Brain Rot Zombie on the CMS page and they deleted it themselves, would you say the Brain Rotter was being framed? Forget it. -- Amazing 20:07, 2 Feb 2006 (GMT)

AND AGAIN. AND AGAIN. This is terrible Mod neglect. -- Amazing 01:08, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Wow, adding me to your group's kill on sight list will really make the whole problem go away, won't it? MaulMachine 01:13, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Hopefully. -- Amazing 01:16, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

AND AGAIN. -- Amazing 01:16, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

What are you trying to accomplish with this bullshit? A mod has already established that you are at fault here. MaulMachine 01:18, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

You are NOT ALLOWED to BLANK OUT peoples' text WHENEVER YOU WANT. You're even deleting things written by people OTHER THAN ME now! -- Amazing 01:20, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

And Again! (Not he is not deleting only MY posts but others' as well.) -- Amazing 01:20, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

AND. AGAIN. Now he's saying there was a Mod Decision against me when there wasn't. On the Vandal page 'Ster fell over on his duties, but there has been no 'decision against me' as he falsely claims. He likes making up Mod rulings as Brent has warned him about. -- Amazing 01:22, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Brent didn't say that, troll.

Go to Hell, he warned you for vandalization and making up a Mod ruling. IT'S ON THE DAMN WIKI. -- Amazing 01:30, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)