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== A warm welcome from a Philosophe Knight ==

'''''Pericles, Act II, Scene II'''''

'''THAISA''':     Enter a Knight; he passes over, and his Squire presents his shield to the Princess.

'''SIMONIDES''':  Who is the first that doth prefer himself?  

'''THAISA''':     A Knight of Sparta, my renowned father.  And the device he bears upon his shield is a black Ethiope reaching at the sun.  The word, 'Lux tua vita mihi.'   

'''SIMONIDES''':  He loves you well that holds his life of you and what, are you merry, Knights? 
 
'''KNIGHTS''':  Who can be other in this royal presence? 
 
'''SIMONIDES''':  Here, with a cup that's stored unto the brim....as you do love, fill to your mistress' lips....we drink this health to you. 
 
'''KNIGHTS''':  We thank your grace.

''*Ok, so it's a little out of context but it's the only Shakespearean quote that I could remember from college that pertained to Sparta.  I'm sure there's more but they escape me at the moment.''

--[[User:A whale's vagina|Sir WV]] 12:49, 7 October 2007 (BST)

:Hello Sir WV. Would this be a greeting from the Philosophe Knights? If Noc II is still around tell him I send my regards. I am an old friend.--[[User:Toothdecay|Toothdecay]] 15:55, 7 October 2007 (BST)
::Aye, Lord N is still with the Knights.  I speak for the Knights with my welcome but I will pass on your regards to N.--[[User:A whale's vagina|Sir WV]] 21:57, 7 October 2007 (BST)
:::I hope he is isn't bothered that I turned his idea of a survivor group into a PKer group. It has been a year though, things change as do people. --[[User:Toothdecay|Toothdecay]] 17:49, 8 October 2007 (BST)
::::no, not at all, nice work [[User:Noc|Noc]] 03:45, 10 October 2007 (BST)
:::::I know it is kind of a surprise that I turned PKer. After I maxed out as a survivor it got quote boring so I started helping M-BEK. Then before you know it, I became a full PKer. Well it was always my vision to have a Spartan group, I just never imagined it being a PKer one.--[[User:Toothdecay|Toothdecay]] 20:15, 10 October 2007 (BST)

== Cineraryone ==
You should tell the useless badboy13 that he should not get butchered 3 days in a row. It was fun killing him just east of giddings. He really needs to learn the ways of the PKer. By that, I mean do not stay in the same place ALL the time. I have him in my sights again, for a fourth kill on his useless sparta regiment. See you AGAIN badboy13, turned into whipping boy. [[User:Cineraryone|Cineraryone]] 22:33, 17 May 2008 (BST)
:Badboy went on a short vactation, he kept his character on and just put him in the mall for fun every time he died. Your victory = fail. If you want to fight with actual active members just stop by our forum. Oh, wait, you're too busy being a self righteous arse-hole. And some people wonder why I hate bounty hunters. --[[User:Toothdecay|Toothdecay]] 01:20, 19 May 2008 (BST)
::One more thing, stand up, you're dead son. --[[User:Toothdecay|Toothdecay]] 03:44, 19 May 2008 (BST)


Well, do a little more research my friend. He griefed us some time ago, so it was satisfactory to kill him over and over again. But I will give him the benefit of the doubt if he is on vacation sort of speak. As far as you owning me on the wiki here, you fail. Try a little harder. See you soon. Speaking of seeing someone soon, see a dentist, they can help with that shit festering in your mouth. Kind of an oxymoron there too tooth decay as saying my victory=fail. See you soon. (by the way, it is just a game, so thanks for the fun) :)
You have 2 up on me, congrats, but that will change soon. Congrats regardless. Enjoy it while it lasts. Would a self righteous asshole admit to that? I doubt it. And no, I am not a bounty hunter. i would join your forums, but meeting up with a group that can not come up with a more original name than the Spartans from a weak movie causes narcolepsy. Where are these so called persians you are fighting, hmmm? I also wish to not join your forums due to the fact that I do not want to hear all of you screaming "THIS IS SPARTA!!!" EVERY FIVE MINUTES. Off topic a bit, let's have fun with this. I have been bored in game so thanks for the attention to this battle. Oh yeah, one more thing, I am revived and up SON! You're my dad? who would have thunk it? [[User:Cineraryone|Cineraryone]] 11:39, 22 May 2008 (BST)

To be honest we dont really ever Shout "This is Sparta!" on our forums. Usually in game so don't blame us for knowing how to really have fun ;)--[[User:Doctor Oberman|Doctor Oberman]] 19:29, 22 May 2008 (BST)

:Haha, oh man this is gonna be fun. First off, the Spartans were around before the movie came out. Secondly, what short bus do you ride? Do you really think that just because my name is toothdecay that I actually have toothdecay? That's sad. Thirdly, looks like you can't handle us yourself. Already calling for help on Brainstock? Oh and calling us zergers isn't going to help your case. Oh and make that three up. Yes you do fail. --[[User:Toothdecay|Toothdecay]] 20:49, 22 May 2008 (BST)

== Your forum! ==

Toothy, I think your forum is shot! --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 21:52, 5 July 2008 (BST)
:I've had the same problem every once in a while.  (This post is mainly to show off my attempt at making a sig) -- {{User:KF/SpartanSig}} 05:42, 6 July 2008 (BST)

== MCM neutral zone ==

I apologize for disturbing the King, but the following occurred in 31,71 on the neutral ground of Malton College of Medicine. 

[http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/08-29-08_0400hrs_PUBLIC/IN_31-71__c9e-f5c-fad.html iwitness of a killing]

While I am certain that the choice of targets was worthy, and the kill an honorable one, it was clearly within neutral space. I presume this was a misunderstanding on the part of the individual warrior, who no doubt was unaware of the significance of his location. All we ask is that the warrior be advised of the neutral zone, and that he not kill there again. 

If this individual is not a Spartan but is instead an impostor, then I will happily leave the matter of his education in your capable hands.

MCM is honored by the recognition of the Spartans, and we do not intend to let one incident interfere with a budding and congenial relationship. Thank you for your time. --{{User:Violet B/sig}} 04:50, 29 August 2008 (BST)

:Thank you for that bit of information, Violet.

:We Spartans, respect your land after you showed us you fight honorably for it. I'm sure the aforementioned attack was done without knowledge of your respected space.  I will show Desmond this for he is indeed a very honorable Spartan. 

:I have a question though, the neutral zone was broken by your people in cases of extreme necessity. What are the perquisites for us Spartans to break the neutral law? Can we kill an enemy that hides with you, knowing they will be safe? If we are allowed to break this, we may also be able to help you.

:I know your group has come under attack from rouge PKers and the like. If we were in the area we could possibly speak to them about it and if they still persist on killing you and your students, we could get rid of them. All with your permission of course. I respect your wishes but there are ways we can still help each other out, without violating our morals and rules. --[[User:Toothdecay|Toothdecay]] 04:06, 31 August 2008 (BST)

::Thank you, toothdecay. Desmond's lecture was wonderful, and I am pleased that our two groups are on a more solidly peaceful footing. I tried to stop his killing this morning, and had him healed up from 4 to 49 HP, but the hourly lag caught me, unfortunately. 

::Managing a neutral zone in Malton is at times difficult, as I'm sure you are aware. There are individuals who abuse the neutral space concept. I don't like it. It shows a lack of respect for the principle underlying neutral space, and tests the patience of those who respect the concept. We have not found a good way to manage that particular problem yet, quite honestly, and are open to a civil public discussion about how to manage this problem.

::I don't mind our more warlike supporters '''talking,''' (and only talking!) to a typical uninformed rogue PKer if necessity dictates, but most PKers get tired of killing us long before we get any more than exasperated with their foolishness, so killing is usually unnecessary. (It's why we edit out all speech in our PK reports - we try to be no fun whatsoever to kill.) I think beyond that it would probably be best if any communication was left at the polite conversation level. It has been my experience that killing PKers only encourages them to shoot back, as does whining about the killing. 

::Prerequisites for breaking the neutral law? We have a list of people that have shown no respect for our neutral space on our policies page, called the [[MCM/policies|DNR/expelled list]]. These individuals are not protected by our no-kill policy since they themselves have shown flagrantly that they do not honor it. Honestly, you have to really try to get on the list. Most of these people are simply people we do not generally revive or heal. 

::Beyond the no heal, no revive level, we have a griefer impostor who has to be shot immediately when he sets foot on campus, Officer Sam Jackson. We also will not tolerate the presence of anyone on the Ignore List, especially Horny Horny Hippo, whose ignore-listable behavior occurred in MCM. There is one other person who may escalate to a level requiring that type of immediate action, but at this point I'm waiting to see what his next actions are. There are no people we kill on sight, only people whom we have to act against immediately in self-defense when they enter school grounds. 

::As far as groups are concerned, I hope to remove the Columbine Kids as soon as I'm assured the School Shootings Tour is over. Despite the official DNR and many dozens of killings by the CKs during that time, Gore Corper has been quite respectful of the peace since then and we are not interested in any harm coming to any of them. Team Zombie Hardcore has been a problem in the past, but they were so offensive and such a problem to so many people that we had to do nothing about them; they sowed discord, and reaped the whirlwind as a result all on their own. They remain on the DNR list permanently after the hippo incident, and as such are not now and never will be considered to be covered by the no-kill policy. We do not attack them, however, with the exception of the hippo if it is on MCM grounds, as its raping behavior warrants a different standard. 

::I do appreciate the offer to help us deal with our "problem people"; however, we have our own security force that we call upon in extreme cases inside MCM proper. It is usually quite clear when these circumstances arise; there are no secrets in a building with 80-110+ people on a regular basis, and most people know who is griefing us at any particular time. 

::Our "no retaliatory killing" policy may somewhat handicap us in dealing with griefers, but it gives us the freedom to do our work without wasting time and energy on anger. 

::I am available on beerhah IRC on a regular basis, although I am often interrupted due to family responsibilities. Feel free to contact me there, here on the wiki, or on brainstock, beerhah, or 10mfh forum. --{{User:Violet B/sig}} 20:39, 2 September 2008 (BST)

:::The speech wasn't that good, but thank you for your kind words. I'm also glad that everything was cleared up so easily. As for Cinerary, don't worry about him. He's griefed our members before, and he's just angry that Spartans took vengeance many many times. Thank you for trying to stop him, but I knew my sleeping in such a crowded hospital was asking for trouble. I'll be in the area, and if you need to contact me you can drop by here, and I'm also on the IRC frequently. Thanks. (Desmond) - [[User:Russell Oakley|Russell Oakley]] 08:00, 3 September 2008 (BST)

== Player Killer Olympics ==

Thanks to the Spartans for agreeing to participate.

Also - I'd like one of your members to be part of the Player Killer Olympic Committee (PKOC or Peacock) - you'd be a vote to resolve any issues that come up.  Also if you were so inclined, you could help verify submissions.  This would not be required though, as I am sure I'll wind up doing most of that.  

Let me know who it should be and thanks!! --[[User:Squid Boy|Squid Boy]] 16:24, 1 September 2008 (BST)
== Rhyme or Reason ==
Just wondering how you pick your targets. I was actually considering joining you until Leroy popped me. What'd I do?! --[[User:Pyrranha|Pyrranha]] 17:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:Well, some kill for glory, others out of bloodlust. Generally, if you are a member of the DEM or a bounty hunter you will be targeted. Others, including trenchoaters and mall rats are also high priority targets. Every member of the Spartans is a little different. I could ask Leroy why he killed you if you want me to. Don't let your death deter you from joining, however. I believe that you do not truly know someone until you kill them and are killed by them. Maybe you know us better now. Just a thought. --[[User:Toothdecay|Toothdecay]] 04:14, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

::That's strangely insightful. I would actually like to know if Leroy had a reason for killing me. I'm definitely not DEM or a bounty hunter, and I'm not a mall rat (though I was in a mall at the time of the shooting). I used to be trenchy before I joined the [[USAI]] but got over it. If I were to join, would it be necessary to join the forums? I usually can't commit myself to forums. --[[User:Pyrranha|Pyrranha]] 02:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to send a message to Leroy.  He PK'd me (a legit kill) and I entered a story on the survivor diaries.  In it, I said I would kill him.  He misread this as my having said that I have already killed him.  If you read the diary, it is quite clear (and I even wrote the story as one that I thought he'd appreciate and gave him credit for the kill) that I have made no claim of having killed him.  He has since taken to calling me a liar.  PK-ing is part of the ebb and flow of the game-such is life in Malton.  To call me a liar, however, when I wrote no such thing is offensive (especially when I wrote the story specifically for him as a way of saying 'nice kill').    --[[User:Inspector Lee|Inspector Lee]] 12 November 2008



Alright, first, Pyrranha, I only targeted at random. And since you revived me, I put you on my ceasefire list in my contacts. Also, it was nothing meant for anger, it was just a random kill that I do. Although I do check for grouptags of DEM or allies before I kill. But Pyrranha, you are more than welcome to join the Spartans!

And Lee, I've looked it over, and I owe you an apology. It was just a misunderstanding, it will not happen again. I hope there is no more anger between us now.
Also, I rarely ever use the wiki, other than for maps and the Profile DB, so if you wish to contact me, it's best to use our forums and drop me a PM.
--[[User:Leroy Jankens|Leroy Jankens]] 18:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

:Okay, well, I'm interestd in joining the Spartans. If you want to continue this conversation, let's move it to my talk page. I don't get talked to enough. I would use your forums, but I need a username and password to log in, and I'm not sure I'm ready for that step yet. --[[User:Pyrranha|Pyrranha]] 07:04, 29 November 2008 (UTC)