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===20091219 Alt Proximity Warning===
{{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:50, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

'''Suggestion type'''<br />
Interface

'''Suggestion scope'''<br />
Players with alts

'''Suggestion description'''<br />
To say it up front, this suggestion is '''not''' designed to stop ''intentional'' zerging, nor should it help zergers know when they've been found out. Read on for why that is.

Many Urban Dead players have multiple characters (alts). The [http://www.urbandead.com/faq.html#mult rule] regarding alts is simple, but many players still find that their characters get too close to one another sometimes. Even veteran players have this problem on occasion. This suggestion is aimed at helping ''honest players'' keep their characters apart.

*'''Proposal''' - A proximity warning whenever characters with the same e-mail address are within 10 blocks of each other, as well as requiring confirmation for e-mail address changes (explained later). Similar in appearance to the IP warning, if a character moves within 10 blocks of another character with the same e-mail, they would receive a simple warning, perhaps like, ''You are X blocks away from CHARACTER_NAME, another character with your e-mail address. Please mind the [http://www.urbandead.com/faq.html#mult rules].'' As long as the characters are within 10 blocks of each other, the warning would be displayed.

*'''Why e-mail?''' - If the actual zerging detection mechanisms (e.g. cookies, IP addresses, etc.) were used, zergers could learn the limits of them and circumvent them more easily. By using e-mail, no information about the actual mechanisms is given away, and the proximity warning becomes an opt-in tool for honest players to identify when they're close to making an accidental mistake.

*'''Why confirmation?''' - Without it, griefers could enter the e-mail address of their target, then find out whenever they were in proximity. It would essentially act as a radar system, and could potentially have some other drawbacks as well. Confirmations ensure that only people who own an e-mail address can use it.

Please note that the existing countermeasures will remain as they are. This suggestion does not modify, remove, or otherwise alter them.

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'''Keep Votes'''
#'''Keep''' - Is it too cliché to just say "author vote"? Meh. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:51, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - I was going for "first!", but i'll settle with "I'd use this." --<small>[[User:Rorybob|<span style="color: #FF9933">Rahrah</span>]]</small>[[404: Barhah not found|<sup><span style="color: #DB2645">Brhr?</span></sup>]] 23:53, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Me rikey. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:54, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Yes --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 23:54, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Jajajajajajaja{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 00:09, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Yap. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 00:10, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - I can't wait to see the rebuttals to the kill votes. [[User:RinKou|RinKou]] 01:09, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - --[[User:Captdrett|Captdrett]] 03:27, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - I wouldn't use it as I just play the one account, but still. {{User:Sorakairi/sig}} 03:46, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Why not? -[[User:Lord Hawthorne|Lord Hawthorne]] 03:58, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Sure why not. I guess the stupid and lazy need a way to keep their damn characters apart, since they can't just use their fuckin BRAIN and do it themselves.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>08:58 20 December 2009(BST)</tt>
#'''Keep''' - I was wondering how long before this finally got here. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 13:13, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - I thought this was a dupe, but I couldn't find one. Oh well, it could help clueless newbies. --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 00:04, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - It's simple and definitely worth putting forward to Kevan. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 00:39, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Why not? --[[User :Armpit Odor|<span style="color:red"><sup>A</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>O</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>R</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>D</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>M</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>O</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>P</sup><span style="color:green"><sub>R</sub><span style="color:red"><sup>I</sup><span style="color:green"><sub> ! </sub><span style="color:red"><sup>T</sup></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span>]] 20:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Useful when traversing the city.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 20:53, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Sounds good by me. - [[User:Subotei's Crotch|Subotei&#39;s Crotch]] 00:28, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Very helpful for newer players and the occasional oopsies for seasoned. Gently reminding new players of proximity infractions while learning the game would be a very useful tool they could be encouraged to use. A small information page could easily be created explaining how it works and how to use it with that link added beside the existing ones ''"See also Alt Account, Alt abuse, Zerging & '''Alt Proximity Alerts'''"'' in the [[Frequently Asked Questions/Alts]] area.--{{User:Psychotic Pantomime/sig}} 02:37, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - 'There is no way anybody who cares about the rules should ever be that close'... it's all about raising awareness of said rules. Dumping it in settings might make people more aware. As long as it's an opt-in via email reply - IE, for it to activate one has to respond to an email sent to the address in question, so a griefer can't sign up a new character using someone else's email and use it to track them - there's no good reason not to. - {{User:Marcusfilby/sig}} 04:23, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - This may be useful for tracking the locations of long inactive characters without activating them and risking tripping the anti-zerging countermeasures. --[[User:Anotherpongo|Anotherpongo]] 10:31, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Has the potential to be very useful. {{User:Met fan/sig}} 00:31, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Nice work.--[[User:Truezombieboy|Truezombieboy]] 06:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Good idea, quite useful for people making a legimate.--{{User:The General/sig}} 10:46, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Though I agree with [[User:Marcusfilby|Marcus]] that there would have to be some sort of opt-in via email to avoid abuse of the feature. --{{User:Lois_Millard/sig}} 13:05, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

'''Kill Votes'''
#'''Kill''' - I actually think it is a great idea in principle; but there is no way anybody who cares about the rules should EVER be that close to one of their alts.  Thus the intentional zergers would likely be the only ones seeing the warning.  However, a well thought out and presented argument Aichon, just can't give you my vote.  --[[User:YoEleven|YoEleven]] 02:54, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
#'''Kill''' - I like the idea but not sure its needed, I mean if you dont know that your alts are near each other.....but I must say a good read and balanced article.--[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 12:17, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

'''Spam/Dupe Votes'''
#Aych made it.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 05:09, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
#:S'pose I can't argue with that. But you owe me one after butchering my name that badly. I'll call it in one day... ¬_¬ {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:42, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
#::alrite--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 05:55, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

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