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=Announce Kills Here=

#[http://iamscott.net/1277939840877.html Shaun kills Lord Pendragon]--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 00:30, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:Holy... I was next door to that building before I went for Axe Hack.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:33, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::I don't even know how I ended up in that building.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 00:34, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:::Everyone makes it too predictable...Why are we all hiding in Free Running dead end zones? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:36, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::::I wasn't. I've been moving non-stop every couple of hours.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:37, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:::::Don't you watch movies anymore? People always run into a dead end when getting chased by the fuzz. Unless they're the good guy.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 00:39, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::::::Why would the fuzz be chasing the good guy?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:39, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:::::::Evil/corrupt/stupid fuzz.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 00:40, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::::::::Watch it, lad. And nice try, Obi. I'm moving this under a big header on top of the page, like AHMH2. I hope you peeps don't mind. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 00:49, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:::::::::[[Image:RageGuy.jpg]] Grrrr!--{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 11:30, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:Damn. Really not wasting any time, are we? ...So be it. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 06:37, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::Heh I got offed pretty quick in the last comp was trying to at least get a kill before it happened this time.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 06:45, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:I much prefer the mind games. For instance I know soph has this page on her watchlist,and whenever someone alters it she gets a message. Keeps her on edge. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:43, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::I hate you so much. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 09:48, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:::Last time, I promise.x --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:51, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::::<3 And don't you lot kill anyone I'm working dammit :P --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 10:05, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#[http://img251.imageshack.us/i/excessive.png/ Oidar wacks Harvey Korman] And yes, the screenshot has been censored a lot. Will it help? No. [[User:Oidar|Oidar]] 10:01, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:Gah! XD --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 10:05, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#[http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/SethXander/?action=view&current=AHMH1.png Goodnight, sweet Prince.]--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:38, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:People tell me if you have problems with my screenshot.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:44, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::I can read that just fine. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 11:48, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:::It's just that I had Kevan's auto-censoring cut in and hide my location.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:52, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::::Nice.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 11:53, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:Sigh...Not only did he escape death, but he managed to retaliate a bit sooner than I expected...  {{Grr}} --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:01, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::I found you three times in two days. What's the bet I kill you again before you reach an RP?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 15:03, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:::I'll bet a Mudkip.  Oh, would you look at that!  I win the bet!  I'm just swaying at that RP to the south there. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:08, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#[http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6744/maltonmanhunt1407july2n.png Dante Bosch 'pollinated' Ben Harding] --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 15:14, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#[http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz9/genericsmith/AHMH2010/July1_Tony_Oidar.png Gyles gets Oidar] --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:26, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:SO we're at that level of censorship now?? lol --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 17:57, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#: (to Giles) You know, it only took a minute to work out where that was, even with the censorship :P --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 18:00, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::Yeh if you're clever you can work it out. ;) --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 18:14, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#::Ah!  This type of censorship is perfect!  Everyone, follow Giles's example! --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:31, 1 July 2010 (BST)
# [http://udwitness.oddnetwork.org/private/2010/06/udw-20100630-212727-7de02ebe2461ce5fbeac6290849542f5-DJ_Talent.html Deej does Doug] {{User:Kempy/sig}} 17:35, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:Hey!  Wtf is DJ talent doing with Sid's Golden Whistle?  I'll see your ass in the squadroom mister.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:48, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:: Um... he borrowed it? [[Image:Unsure.gif]] ...it's the bling see, Deej does love a bit of bling. Wait till he catches up with Popsy, and swipes that fancy gun from her. {{User:Kempy/sig}} 18:21, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:::I left the pimp gun in Foulkes. It's a treasured trophy. Plus there's no way in hell I'll let people see me killing with *that*. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 18:47, 1 July 2010 (BST)
#:::: I'll give Sid a call then. He can Fed-Ex it up to <s>Shuttlebank</s> '''Dakerstown''' for Deej. {{User:Kempy/sig}} 18:54, 1 July 2010 (BST)
==Scoreboard==

Update [[Template:AHMH3 Scoreboard|here]].

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=Other Stuff=

==Location and date==
What the header says.  Any ideas? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 05:21, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:Upper left corner, any time. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 05:23, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:I'm not fussy, somewhere where there is a mixture of survivor and zed presence. Honestly, it'd be cool making it so the second half of the tournament was when the BB3 was in the arena. mMah hah hah. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:03, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:: North East corner. And soon. The Dulston Alliance are apparantly after Deej's ass so moving around through that lot would really be taking the piss. Fuck 'em, no fears here. [[Image:Cig.gif]] {{User:Kempy/sig}} 06:36, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:::ULC baby! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:41, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:3x3 Ketchelbank to Roftwood. Just because. Any date is good. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 12:16, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:: Ooh, I see whut you're doin' missus... Three malls in the playfield to work from, and another three just outside. Clever. For the most part. [[Image:Wink.gif]] {{User:Kempy/sig}} 12:21, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:::She's a woman telling her not to go to the mall is like telling zombies not to eat brains.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 12:22, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:::: Yeah, umpossible. {{User:Kempy/sig}} 12:24, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:::Once it starts, you can't step outside the playing area. And I think we'll be lucky to have one of the three malls inside. Really, as DDR, I want variety, and just now the area has everything from green to ghost. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 12:44, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:Definitely North-West corner.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 15:46, 9 June 2010 (BST)
::As for Date I'm literally ready now. Wet, even. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:48, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:::...And I'm putting my breakfast right back down again. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 15:50, 9 June 2010 (BST)
::::Frosties? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:53, 9 June 2010 (BST)
::I'm up for it. Just give us a two day grace period to sprint to wherever it is.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 15:49, 9 June 2010 (BST)
::: If its in the NW I'll need more time to get there.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 23:47, 9 June 2010 (BST)
So, shall we do this the same as all the previous AHMH?  3x3 area?  Or shall we kick it up a notch depending on the number of contestants? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 00:04, 10 June 2010 (BST)
: We have less than last year, 3x3 is fine for now.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 00:07, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::Another thing, I'm gonna agree with Misanthropy to put the event in the NW. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 00:08, 10 June 2010 (BST)


OK, nobody really cares much about where or when this Manhunt takes place, so I'll throw in a few areas for you all to decide.  Since the playing area will most likely be a 3x3 suburb area, I'm just gonna list the middle suburb.  I'll also list some specific reasons for these areas.
#[[Lerwill Heights]]
#[[Reganbank]] - No Malls in the area.
#[[West Becktown]] - Caiger Mall is in the area.  Who wouldn't like shooting around a famous mall?
#[[Havercroft]] - Who wants to shot the monkeys?
#[[Pitneybank]] - It'll probably be difficult to kill another contestant in Fort Creedy, since it's usually packed.
#[[Judgewood]] (RenegadeRomero's suggestion.  Added here on the list at 01:59, 12 June 2010 (BST))
As for the date, can we all agree on the first of next month?  With the event going on for a month?  If so, pick an area, quick. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 00:48, 12 June 2010 (BST)
:Alternatively, we can start the manhunt earlier than the first.  If so, I'm thinking along the lines of the 20th or later. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 01:24, 12 June 2010 (BST)
::Option 3 and ASAP --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 01:35, 12 June 2010 (BST)
:::Centred on Judgewood and starting soon as everyone can get ready. --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 01:48, 12 June 2010 (BST)
::::Agreed. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:50, 12 June 2010 (BST)
::::The reason I decided West Becktown instead of Judgewood was because I was trying to limit the number of malls in the area to 1.  But if you want Judgewood, I'll throw that up there as well. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 01:59, 12 June 2010 (BST)
:::::Judgewood means it's exactly the top left corner. Makes it easier to figure things out. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:00, 12 June 2010 (BST)
::::::Judgewood sounds good, and there's a tiny chance that Caiger Mall will be active the entire competition, so it might as well be one mall. Oh, and what happens if BB3 makes it all the way to to the manhunt area and ruins it? [[User:May|May]] 02:27, 12 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::I don't think we need to worry too much about the BB3.  Some of the contestants here (mainly DDR and Rosslessness) have alts in the BB3.  And the Judgewood area also has Calvert Mall.  But if every wants the Judgewood area, then it'll be the Judgewood area.  As for the date, if everyone wants it ASAP, than we can all pretty much agree to start this manhunt on the 20th.  I wanna give everyone a week to get into the area and stock up, so... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 02:35, 12 June 2010 (BST)
::The first of July is best IMO, the location is good :D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:42, 12 June 2010 (BST)
:::Alright, I have an idea on how to settle this starting date thing...Please scroll to the bottom of this page in...3 minutes... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 03:54, 12 June 2010 (BST)

OK, folks.  Seeing the number of people signing up for this Manhunt may make the playing area too small.  If we hit 20 contestants, I'm gonna increase the size of the playing area from 3x3 to 4x4.  And it looks like we're nearing the 20 mark... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 23:46, 16 June 2010 (BST)

OK, well, we have 20 contestants.  I think it's time to consider increasing the area to 4x4.  Since the original playing area is exactly in the NW corner, increasing the playing area shouldn't be too much a problem. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 00:51, 19 June 2010 (BST)
:Well, with 20 in a 3x3, it averages to one person per 45 blocks, as compared to one person per 80 blocks with a 4x4, since 4x4 is almost double the playing area. Maybe a 3x4 or 4x3? It's not quite as drastic and should make finding people something that will happen a bit more regularly. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:32, 19 June 2010 (BST)
::You also have to consider that about 50% of the area is open space.  It's very unlikely that any of the contestants will hide on the streets.  Unless, of course, they're dead. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 01:39, 19 June 2010 (BST)
:::I'm actually planning to hide on the streets for at least part of the time, though I have some good reasons for doing so. Regardless, yeah, I thought about it some more, and if the first one had eight suburbs with six people, then this should be fine. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:15, 19 June 2010 (BST)
::::So 3x4 or 4x3 instead of 4x4? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:58, 19 June 2010 (BST)
:::::I was actually agreeing with you that 4x4 should be fine, I think, though others are welcome to disagree, of course. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:24, 19 June 2010 (BST)
::::::4x4 sounds good. I've already found giles.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:53, 19 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::4x4 it is. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:45, 19 June 2010 (BST)

==technical stuff==
I'm assuming only survivor vs. Survivor kills will be counted? And if we head for NW it will be a no malls setup? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:53, 9 June 2010 (BST)
: Calvert Mall innit? {{User:Kempy/sig}} 11:55, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:Umm, If you pull off a Zed v Survivor kill I recon you deserve the points, but not Zed v Zed, we outlined none of the latter last tournament. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 12:08, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:::Seems fair --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:34, 9 June 2010 (BST)
::::Look, the rules stuff...It's gonna be the same as the [[Malton_Manhunt/Axe_Hack%27s_Manhunt#Rules|first AHMH]] (with the exception of #5).  And I'm thinking extra points for specific types of kills. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 00:02, 10 June 2010 (BST)
:::::This is maybe a silly question, but for the sake of clarity, a survivor killing a contestant zombie earns no points, right? --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 03:06, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::::::As far as I can see, the only pointless kills are zombie-on-zombie. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:24, 10 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::Ok, I can work with that if everyone else can. --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 03:48, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::::::::I'm pretty sure we outlawed Survivor on Zed cause of killing whilst searching for a revive point etc. I can't remember what we came up with... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:58, 10 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::::In AHMH2 all kills were fine except zed vs zed, and RP kills. Survivor vs zed was okay: I killed zombie Nick, <s>Nick killed zombie DDR,</s> DDR killed zombie Obi ([[Malton Manhunt/image ark]]). --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 09:06, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::::::::::That's the one. RP kills (RPs being determined by the Suburb map, groups in that suburb or Cemetries etc) shouldn't count, SvZ ones otherwise are fine, yeah? :D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 10:44, 10 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::::::That's reasonable.  So if you happen to catch someone in zombie form on their way to a RP and you can kill their ass you probably deserve the credit.  But RPs should def be off limits.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 15:13, 11 June 2010 (BST)

==Pointless header==
You going to interview us again axey? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:54, 9 June 2010 (BST)
:Well, I failed for number 2 due to technical problems (PC crashed and was lazy to fix it).  If you want me to redo the radio show that I promised for number 2, than sure.  I can throw that in. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 23:53, 9 June 2010 (BST)
==The rules so far...==
#No sleeping in Malls.  Malls may only be used for resupplying.
#You may not enlist the help of anyone not involved in this Manhunt. (ie: Broadcasting on the radio that one of the contestant is KOS.)
#Most kills win, whether as a zombie or a survivor.  A screenshot must be provided to validate the kill.
#No teaming up with other contestants. (ie: Player1 and Player2 may not "tag team" on Player4)
#No zerging.
#No kills on a contestant will be counted if both players involved was a zombie.
#A kill at a Revive Point will not be counted.

Those are your rules so far.  Anyone else wanna add something in?  Hopefully something worthwhile, not a rule that says you can screw the rules just because you have money...Any new rules you may wish to add must be agreed upon by the other contestants, so no, you cannot just slap it up there. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 01:56, 10 June 2010 (BST)
==A Point System==
Hey, for this third installation of AHMH, I'm thinking of doing a point system.  What I'm thinking is something along the lines of the point system in Super Smash Bros, if you ever played it.  So here I am, pitching you guys my idea.  If you guys like it, we'll implement this into the rules.  Basically, it's the same as the previous installments of AHMH.  A kill will score you a point.  However, previous installments of AHMH never took into account death count or even reviving an opponent.  What I propose is if you get killed, you lose a point.  If you get a revive from an opposing contestant, you lose 3 points.

To sum it up:
 Killing another contestant: +1
 Getting killed by another contestant: -1
 Getting revived by another contestant: -3

So, what do you guys think? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 21:09, 10 June 2010 (BST)
:Having just been playing SSBB for the past two hours, I like it alot.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:14, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::I'm also thinking a +2 for a Punch kill... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 21:16, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::: Personally, I don't like the revied by other contestant loss, it seemes to me that it takes away some of the point of a manhunt as you are rewarding points for non-combatant things.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 21:22, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::::Well, technically you don't get a + for reviving.  I just put that in there as another way to attack the others points. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 21:25, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::::But getting found by your enemy at a revive point should have negative consequences. Since RP kills are disallowed, this allows a way to get back at your opponent, but they benefit. The benefit is hence weighed out by the heavy loss in points.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:26, 10 June 2010 (BST)
:::Aw. Not a fan, I'm afraid. I also tried thinking of variations before, but in the end I decided I really like counting just kills, and this being about who's the most efficient killer. No shenanigans, a game for Real Men. And Susan :D Saying that, I won't oppose, I'll play by any rules you peeps choose, so don't let me spoil the fun :") --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 21:39, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::::That's why this topic is here.  To see if anyone likes it.  If no one likes it, we'll stick to the original rules of the previous AHMHs. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 21:46, 10 June 2010 (BST)
:::::I agree. A game for real men. But DDR can still play. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 23:11, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::::::Well, by the looks of it, everyone hates the idea.  Let's throw this out than, and burn it with fire. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 23:50, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::::::: I would liek a points system too Axe. 

Here's my propousal:

 Killing another "living" contestant: +2
 Killing another "dead" contestant: +1
 Getting killed by another contestant: -1
 Getting killed by another "dead" contestant: -3
 Kills with punches, toolboxes and other cool stuff: +0.5

That way guys with better kpds and whatever can win not just the guy wth most kills.--{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 21:21, 16 June 2010 (BST)
:Well...We already tossed out the point system idea. =/ --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 01:24, 19 June 2010 (BST)
:: D: --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 15:54, 21 June 2010 (BST)

==Starting Date Vote==
OK.  Some people want it earlier, some wants it on exactly the 1st.  So let's vote.  Just sign yourself under the appropriate date you want.  If you want another date, just add another Lv3 Header of your desired date and sign.  Please format these votes like (# - Any comments. Signature). --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 03:58, 12 June 2010 (BST)
:Oh, and voting will be closed on the 17th at the exact time the above comment was posted. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 04:02, 12 June 2010 (BST)

===June 20th===
===July 1st===
# i'd actually prefer it to start after [[Biertag]] but I won't push my luck. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 04:11, 12 June 2010 (BST)
#:Um...How about we change the rules a little?  Any kills with a Wine/Beer bottle on that date is worth double?  Would that work? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 04:16, 12 June 2010 (BST)
#:I was thinking it over and I have a better idea.  How about a 5-day ceasefire period?  From July 6th-10th, we can issue a ceasefire, giving everyone some time to find revives and resupply.  During this time period, it should be enough time for you to make it to Biertag and back.  Of course, we'll extend the Manhunt by 5 days to make up for the killings lost during this ceasefire period. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 05:12, 12 June 2010 (BST)
#::What happens if I accidently kill someone in the ceasefire? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:22, 15 June 2010 (BST)
#:::Dunno. Either way, I don't want a ceasefire, it breaks flow, I'm happy to send an alt to Biertag. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:36, 15 June 2010 (BST)
#::::I agree with DDR a ceasefire would break the flow of the manhunt--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 11:55, 15 June 2010 (BST)
#:::::Ceasefire idea dismissed. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 23:44, 16 June 2010 (BST)
#Fine. And having an alt in BB3, i can say that we probably wont be anywhere near the far NW at the time. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:18, 12 June 2010 (BST)
#July 1st and no ceasefire.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 11:29, 12 June 2010 (BST)
# --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 12:25, 12 June 2010 (BST)
#As Ross, I don't think the party will be here by the time we're done. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 17:11, 12 June 2010 (BST)
#Ironically, my three alts at this time will be doing this, Biertag and BB3. :P --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:39, 13 June 2010 (BST)
#Badda bing. Also that's not irony yon. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:29, 14 June 2010 (BST)
#:Your face is irony.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 14:56, 15 June 2010 (BST)
#{{User:Hashk/sig}} 20:31, 15 June 2010 (BST)
# - I'll be on holiday for the latter half, but that matters NOT! -- <small>[[User:Rorybob| <span style="color: #FF9933">Rahrah</span>]] </small> 19:05, 16 June 2010 (BST)
# Tsk. Forgot to post. Yes, 1st works for me too. {{User:Kempy/sig}} 20:31, 16 June 2010 (BST)
# sure -- [[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 20:48, 16 June 2010 (BST)
# Why not? --{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 02:59, 17 June 2010 (BST)
# Definitely prefer the later start. I already have two alts in the general area and would prefer to wait until after the MOB clears out completely. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:42, 18 June 2010 (BST)
#:Technically, voting was suppose to be over yesterday.  But, as you can see, counting up the votes isn't gonna be a problem.  It looks like the 1st will mark the start.  Everyone should probably be in the area within 2 days before the Manhunt starts. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} ({{User:Axe Hack/Stat}}) 00:50, 19 June 2010 (BST)
#::Reading comprehension has never been my strong suit. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:21, 19 June 2010 (BST)

== What the fuck is this 4x4 rubbish? ==

I go away for two days to a wedding with a free bar and this happens? 

We had 20 "contestants" last time round and had no problem with 3x3. RL always means some jokers will have to pull out. We want concentrated death, not Urban wandering.

I fear I may still be drunk. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:35, 20 June 2010 (BST)
: It's change, change is coming--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 19:20, 20 June 2010 (BST)
: I'm not so sure about 4x4 either, although I have no experience of how these hunts play out, and I haven't done the maths. 3x3 equals the most action, surely? And 3 down and 4 across would be a good compromise (but then I'm biased against Dunell Hills...) --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 19:48, 20 June 2010 (BST)
::Four blocks on the map. We duke it out in Caiger mall for a month, whoever's left standing is executed IRL.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 20:20, 20 June 2010 (BST)
:::8 blocks. Got to have an RP. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:05, 20 June 2010 (BST)
:::Make it a single warehouse. No guns, no shirts and no shoes. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 21:16, 20 June 2010 (BST)
::::As a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnophobia never nude] I cannot abide by this last stipulation. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 00:49, 21 June 2010 (BST)
:::::What if I'm already limp when the fight starts? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:02, 21 June 2010 (BST)
::::::...
::::::Argh! XD --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 19:20, 21 June 2010 (BST)
::::::Found you as well, mis.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:22, 21 June 2010 (BST)
:No, but really, I hadn't thought of it but Ross has a point. AHMH2 had indeed 20 people in. There were 43 kills total, bit over one a day, which is good entertainment. I think there's no need to make it slower. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 21:30, 20 June 2010 (BST)
::I think you'll find that a lot of AHMH2's contestants were inactive, unfortunately, so the 40 kills was actually a well-rounded amount for the amount of people ACTUALLY playing, so maybe 20 actual contestants would bog it up, dunno, I don't mind this 4x4 stuff, but it's up to AH to choose/vote I guess. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:06, 21 June 2010 (BST)
:::1x1 for total chaos :D. Seriously! --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 15:51, 21 June 2010 (BST)
::::Lulz. And yeah DDR, it does look like it'll have more action, this one B) If it's put up to a vote, I'd vote 3x3, but I'm good with 4x4. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 19:20, 21 June 2010 (BST)
:::::Alright, a few things.  First, DDR is correct.  AHMH2 never actually had 20 contestants since many weren't active during the hunt (myself included).  Second, 20 contestants may seem like there'll be a lot of action in a 3x3 area, but by putting it on 4x4, I'm putting more emphasis on the "hunt" part of ''manhunt''. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:49, 23 June 2010 (BST)
:::::So, yea.  I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'm promoting hunting.  If the field is cluttered, everyone will most likely be running into each other left and right.  When the field is not cluttered, you need to use your instincts (or luck...) and hunt down your targets, using only the hints given on their kill shots.  There's only so many paths a target can take after killing. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:52, 23 June 2010 (BST)
::::::Yeah, I think 4x4 is well worth a go! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:06, 23 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::Cushty. Here, I made a [http://dssrzs.org/map/AHMH3 map]. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 20:05, 26 June 2010 (BST)
::::::::Awesome, thanks! I was intending to splice a map of the Manhunt area together for myself over the weekend, but you've made it reality sooner, cheers. --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 20:12, 26 June 2010 (BST)
::::::::::Yvw :) Note that in Firefox you can select, from the browser menu bar: ''View'' -> ''Page Style'' -> ''Free-running lanes''. That's useful when hunting people. <s>One of these days I'll get around to making it sticky...</s> --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 20:39, 26 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::::::Actually, I just went ahead and added the feature, you may have to reload, there should be a wee toggle below the map, and the free-run highlight style should be persistent now, in this and all DSS maps. I'm slightly drunk and dizzy, I hope I didn't break anything :/ Very happy, tho :) --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 01:36, 27 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::::Now if there was only a character tracker thing so I can track you all down easily... =P --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:31, 26 June 2010 (BST)
::::::::::And I still want a tommy gun. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 20:39, 26 June 2010 (BST)
::::::::::: Join the queue missus. {{User:Kempy/sig}} 19:01, 27 June 2010 (BST)

== Oi ==
Whoes tagging me? [http://udwitness.oddnetwork.org/private/2010/06/udw-20100624-051956-6d1c38cb0e1c52787116f25633457f24-bobby_pegleg.html link]--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 11:23, 24 June 2010 (BST)
: [[Image:Lol.gif]] Good idea that. Wasn't me tho. I was tempted to 'tag' you in another way. For lulz. {{User:Kempy/sig}} 13:13, 24 June 2010 (BST)
::You mean you aren't all sitting in the area, Idled out, waiting to strike in the last few hours of day 1 when everyone else's Ap is used up? Pfft. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:32, 24 June 2010 (BST)
:::Hell, I thought that was the whole idea. [[Image:Lol.gif]] --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 22:07, 24 June 2010 (BST)
:::: [[Image:Thumbsup.gif]] '''Kempy''' likes this. {{User:Kempy/sig}} 22:25, 24 June 2010 (BST)
:::::I would tag those I found as well, but sadly, my searches have not bought me a newspaper I could use to slap you all around. =( --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:14, 25 June 2010 (BST)
:HA! Nice! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 07:06, 25 June 2010 (BST)

Where's the Roxy line with the odds on this event? --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 21:23, 25 June 2010 (BST)
:Right here:
:* Alex Koponen winning - 100%
:* Anyone else - 0%
:--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:35, 25 June 2010 (BST)
::If you're the one handling the cash, I think I'll take those odds and bet against. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:38, 25 June 2010 (BST)
:::That's a return of £∞ for an initial bet of £0.01 on myself, then, right? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:46, 25 June 2010 (BST)
::::I chose zero as the scale of infinity. All bets shall be handled in Yuan.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:48, 25 June 2010 (BST)
:::::Oh, good. I need a new Mao suit. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:13, 25 June 2010 (BST)
::::::As in any winnings ground to zero. :p --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:35, 25 June 2010 (BST)

What are the odds on Axe Hack Winning? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:25, 26 June 2010 (BST)
:Less then zero, he will probably kill himself several times accidentally... -300% Ah ah! --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 12:08, 26 June 2010 (BST)
::massive massive /signed on Obi's part. Poor axe hasn't exactly had the best "record" on these tournies. Which makes it even more admirable that he organises them ;D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 15:14, 26 June 2010 (BST)
:::He just likes getting hurt I guess. Axe Hack I salute you! I place 10 bottles of beer on him winning. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:19, 26 June 2010 (BST)
::::Oh yea, sure.  Just bring in my horrible PKer joke from AHMH2, huh?  I was trying to think of a new joke for AHMH3, but whatever.  I'll work with the same joke twice. =) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:26, 26 June 2010 (BST)
:::::Excellent. Ill go cycle your suggestion now. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:28, 26 June 2010 (BST)
{{Money Tree}}
::::::I put up a tree of money saying that I maintain my 0:0 count I've maintained in AHMH1. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:37, 26 June 2010 (BST)

:Just put the money on me. DDR, I see your the defending champion. That will make my victory all the sweeter. Your going down like a buck toothed groupie at a Grateful Dead concert. I'm looking forward to this :) --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 18:04, 26 June 2010 (BST)
::Actually, Sophie is the defending champ for AHMH2.  DDR may have won AHMH1, but he sure as hell lost it in AHMH2. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:07, 26 June 2010 (BST)
:::Ahhh...my apologies then to the Mistress Sophie. --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 18:17, 26 June 2010 (BST)
::::Haha yeah, unfortunately I'm getting owld for this shit and Sophie and Ross topped me off too many times. But I'm not gonna let you be the third one to beat me!!! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:58, 27 June 2010 (BST)

I'm assuming we're going to be posting kills here under a new header when things start, ala AHMH2. As far as odds?  I give 2:1 odds on any of the newcomers, 6:1 odds on Rosslessness & Hashk, 7:1 on DDR, and 32:1 odds on Axe Hack placing in the top 6 (100:1 on him winning). [[Image:lol.gif]] --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 02:13, 27 June 2010 (BST)
: And what about the rest? --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 14:50, 27 June 2010 (BST)
::Hmm... my magic six-shooter gives you 8:1 odds. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 01:57, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:::That one there has the Chilean Blob as his shield. I'm not sure any of us can overpower one with that sort of muscle behind him. But I am going to try...--[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 18:05, 28 June 2010 (BST)
I put a good chance on me not dying in this Manhunt because...I am an [http://yfrog.com/0saxehacklamportpdj ass].  Yes, that's right.  I'm telling you all where I'm hiding.  And a good spot it is too! =P --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:39, 29 June 2010 (BST)
:Haha, you cocksucker.  That's an awesome spot.  You're like the last man on earth there, all barricaded away.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 13:21, 29 June 2010 (BST)
[http://udwitness.oddnetwork.org/private/2010/06/udw-20100629-112117-70ed8d9cd9f11f87f3bceb6dbba0f974-bobby_pegleg.html God dam you people.]--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 17:24, 29 June 2010 (BST)
:I'm going to tag axe hack next.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:57, 29 June 2010 (BST)
::I prefer my spray can approach, personally! Why waste ammo! --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 19:01, 29 June 2010 (BST)
:::Makes more of an impression. Awaiting screenshot from Axe Hack.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:04, 29 June 2010 (BST)
::::Hmm, so he's not in his island then? ;) --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 19:38, 29 June 2010 (BST)
:::::He is unless he's moved since I tagged him.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 20:20, 29 June 2010 (BST)
::::::Gr...Sophie busted in and now I'm not the only person inside anymore...My somewhat awesome fortress has been penetrated by newbies...Damn you, Sophie! {{Grr}} --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:00, 29 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::You shall die first.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:02, 29 June 2010 (BST)
::::::::I've already abandoned ship. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:07, 29 June 2010 (BST)
I move that Yonnua be DQed for attacking before the hunt started. I also move that anyone who has tagged anyone else by DQed for hunting before the hunt started. I would like to additionally move that everyone else be DQed and I be declared not only the winner but the coolest person ever. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:14, 29 June 2010 (BST)
:I move that no.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:16, 29 June 2010 (BST)
:Overruled! Except for the part of Yon attacking. I say we give him a penalty of a -3 kill count. *bangs gravel* =P --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:18, 29 June 2010 (BST)
::Why????? I was not informed of this harsh and overzealous rule! Treason! Treason! I'm a PKer anyway! I've been very restrained with my lack of brutal killings!--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:19, 29 June 2010 (BST)
:::Oh quit your whining and take some of my newspaper slaps. ;D --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:20, 29 June 2010 (BST)
::::As "the scout" is currently idled, can he be left unpunished? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:32, 29 June 2010 (BST)
:::::So you can ambush everyone in 2 days when we're fresh out of AP?  Nah. >=P --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:34, 29 June 2010 (BST)
Michaleson, it really isn't your lucky day.  Enjoy the newspaper when you sign on, ya dig? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:12, 30 June 2010 (BST)
: You people are bullys :'(--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 11:29, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::Maybe you shouldn't hide in such obvious dead-end locations. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 14:53, 30 June 2010 (BST)

== And the Award for 'Biggest Tosser' goes to... ==

...DJ Talent, for completely reading his calendar wrong and offing one of the competitors a day early. [[Image:Nugget.gif]]
<br>Sorry Hib. [[Image:Finethen.gif]] {{User:Kempy/sig}} 00:28, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:Hm...Would Hib like to press for a penalization?  The choice is yours, Hib.  If you opt yes, we'll penalize Kempy -1 kill. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:30, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::I'm going to stand and sway at the building where I was slain. If he chooses to flash me a syringe instead of his gold teeth on or before July 1st, then no harm, no foul. Otherwise, I must press for the penalty to be applied. --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 00:37, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::: Good sport. I'll come sort you in a bit. My apologies once again. [[Image:Blush.gif]] Blame the footie scores, my coupon got busted tonight. {{User:Kempy/sig}} 00:46, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:::: 'tis done. [[Image:Content.gif]] {{User:Kempy/sig}} 11:03, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:::::I confirm DJ Talent has made reparations. No harm. No foul. --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 14:28, 30 June 2010 (BST)

==A dropout==
Just to let you all know, Harrison has informed me on the chatbox on the [http://c4nt.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=home NMC Forums] that he's dropping out due to RL issues, so you may all cross him off your contact lists if you wish. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:33, 30 June 2010 (BST)

==Just wanna confirm...==
...the number of contestants, so please sign here.  It's so I can make any adjustments to the playing area.  If the number of actual contestants drop below 20, I'm reestablishing the 3x3 playing area. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:40, 30 June 2010 (BST)

Axe, you want to leave messages on the talk pages of those who haven't confirmed? The wiki is a large and scary place. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:36, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:Already done. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 14:51, 30 June 2010 (BST)

Just my two cents but I think it's late to be changing the rules. There may very well be a few players who don't sign in again until the hunt begins. If the playing area is going to change, you'd better let us know really soon so we can make sure we're within the designated area before tommorow. --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 14:32, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:Well, it wouldn't be the first time we changed the playing area size.  In AHMH1, we knocked out 1 suburb just about mid-way through the hunt because one of the contestants had an alt stuck in a group war in that one suburb. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 14:51, 30 June 2010 (BST)

#--{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:40, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#{{User:Kempy/sig}} 03:06, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#--{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 03:09, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#--[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 03:25, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 04:03, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#--{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 05:10, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#{{User:Aichon/Signature}} 06:21, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#{{User:Hashk/sig}} 06:38, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 07:47, 30 June 2010 (BST)
# I little worried about this cause some may not check wiki to sign but still hunt us not knowing they need to sign this... Keepign 4x4 not a bad idea. Maybe even 4x3!!! How come no one thought of that!!! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:15, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#:If only someone had [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:Malton_Manhunt/Axe_Hack%27s_Manhunt_3&diff=1729690&oldid=1729682 thought of that already!] {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:38, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#::NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! This is what I get for ignoring all the planning and just trying to fastforward into the killing! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:41, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 08:39, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#--[[User:Oidar|Oidar]] 11:20, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 11:28, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 12:44, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 15:00, 30 June 2010 (BST)
#--[[User:Homeless prophet|Homeless prophet]] 15:26, 30 June 2010 (BST)
# {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 17:38, 30 June 2010 (BST)
# One and only, the amazin' {{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 21:20, 30 June 2010 (BST)
# I AM HERE YAY.-- <small>[[User:Rorybob| <span style="color: #FF9933">Rahrah</span>]] [[Malton_Manhunt/Axe_Hack's_Manhunt_3|<span style="color: #FF9933">is pumped that he's going to lose another Manhunt.</span>]] </small> 22:50, 30 June 2010 (BST)

Well, There doesn't seem to any need to change the playing area's size.  Carry on, people. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:22, 1 July 2010 (BST)

==Six hours to go==

I have a few (mostly insignificant) questions to ask, namely:
*How do we report kills? What's the format? Where do we post it? Are we allowed to hide details or not? Screenshots or witness programs?
*Is there a chat we can use... I realise we're not going to be coordinating at all, but a place to shoot the breeze whilst we shoot each other might be nice/fun/interesting/distracting/a thoroughly stupid idea?
*What's it been like in the past with third-parties who view the kills? Have they reported them? Stepped in? Is any explanation necessary?
*Are we using revive points as listed on individual suburb wikipedia maps as the definitive list of where to get Mrh'd/where not to get shot as a zambah?
*Crucially, what's the playing area?
*And finally, not a question, but I made a tinyurl that fits in the link section of a character profile, thought I'd share: http://tinyurl.com/axehacksmaltonmanhunt3
--{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 18:10, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:1) A section on this talk page will be created devoted to reporting kills.  Just take a screenshot however suits your fancy.  Witness programs you could use.  As for the details, you can hide them if you want, but since AHMH1, no one has really hid any details.  If you opt to hide details, the only detail you cannot hide is the suburb name and building location.  AP, on the other hand, can be hidden.  2) There really isn't a chat page/system to use at the moment, except for this talk page.  3) Past Malton Manhunt events had not had any PK reports due to the fact that an explanation was given.  Just provide a link to witnesses to the Manhunt page after your kill.  4) Playing area is located on the main page. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:20, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:: There was a tonne of censorship in the last manhunt. [[Malton_Manhunt/image_ark|Just look at the image ark]], is it going to be diffrent from last year then?--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 19:03, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:::Different?  Yes.  The reason?  The area is 4x4.  Chances of running into someone?  Slim.  Best choice of hunting?  Use the screenshots as hints. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:57, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::::Wait.. really? We must show the location this time? That's a big difference, Axe, better add it to the rules so people know. Me, I was planning on showing my name, XP, and the "they die" line, nothing more. Especially not the location. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 20:51, 30 June 2010 (BST)

In fairness, most of refer to the manhunt as we kill someone. That last ap wasted with a witty one liner. Most people seem to understand its just a game. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:Indeed. I never bothered to actually tell witnesses nothing. Bosch, if getting a bounty worries you, you may want to do what I did last time, which was adding a note to my profile, like "if you see me kill someone, or someone kill me, please see tinyurl.com/AHMH3 before shitlisting either". --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 20:38, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::Does anyone even report any more? My PKer has almost 60 kills, some in high profile locations that had dozens or hundreds of witnesses, and I have yet to be reported. I seriously doubt anyone is going to get reported for AHMH3, and if they do, a simple explanation should handle it, since exemptions are made for groups at war and the like, I believe, and we're effectively one-person groups at war with each other. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:49, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:::Im a bounty hunter, hunting other bounty hunters, to collect the bounties from them for killing other bounty hunters. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:57, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:::Kill the BHers, Aich, they report you. My PKer has much fewer kills, yet she may even be KOS by now :") --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 21:10, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::::I was KOS and didnt even know it! And Im not a pker :P --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 21:22, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::::: Honestly, why even worry about a bounty? Should some nosey parker decide to grass any us up for whacking one another, it's simple enough to explain to the mods over on BS the situation. Leniency & common sense will win out, and besides, we have an inside man in the competition anywai in missy, so he'd sort all that out I'm sure. Or, you could just do like me and play your PK'er, to hell with bounties. **Flashes etc...** [[Image:Biggrin.gif]] {{User:Kempy/sig}} 22:03, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:::::: Or just take screenshots of those wacking you in the manhunt, then use them to remove the bounty you gained in the manhunt.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 22:04, 30 June 2010 (BST)

After a few hours of thinking it over, I have decided that you may censor the map, however, you must leave the suburb name and the corner blocks on the map uncensored. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:14, 30 June 2010 (BST)
: Could you provide an example? It would make things easier for everyone to understand.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 22:16, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::Using my island picture from above, here's that example:
[[Image:AHMH3Ex.JPG|300px]].  As you can see, only the suburb and the corners of the map are censored.  The location's name is also censored, as well as the remaining AP.  Also, if you're using that minimap (as you see in the lower left) Greasemonkey script, you can go ahead and censor that too. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:20, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::: To be honest, if there is very little use in that much censorship, anyone using a map can find out where you are, it would be best to leave it at no map censorship.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 23:22, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::::If you wanna censor, this is as far as I'd go while leaving small hints.  What do you have in mind?  Because I want to leave at least 3 boxes on the map uncensored. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:25, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::::: If thats as far as you want, then just leave it as no map censorship.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 23:34, 30 June 2010 (BST)
::::::It would take 30 seconds using the location finder on http://map.aypok.co.uk/ to work out the where the screenshot was taken, those four blocks reveal all. Personally, I think it should be upto the individuals claiming the kill to leave in or out as much potential intelligence as much as they wish, with Sophie's suggestion of "name, XP, and the "they die" line" as the bare minimum, but would also see the inclusion of the suburb (and just the suburb) as a compromise? --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 23:46, 30 June 2010 (BST)
1 hour, 16 minutes till go time.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:44, 30 June 2010 (BST)
:Gentlemen.  And Sophie.  Start your engines... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:00, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:: Bet you all a cookie Koponen gets the first kill.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 00:02, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::What makes you say that?--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 00:03, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::That's bad...The server hasn't reset for me yet...I'm in a bad spot...Crap... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:04, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::: Nothing, just wanted to make a guess.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 00:04, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::::Same. Server reset has been as late as half past for me before though.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:05, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::::Had the reset, and found somebody, but I don't have the AP to kill them. I'm expecting to die within about 10 minutes.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:07, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::::: You've failed me :(--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 00:09, 1 July 2010 (BST)
I might/might not be able to kill who I'm looking at.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 00:10, 1 July 2010 (BST)

DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!  Stupid darkness!  I almost had Yon!!!  GRRRRR!!!!! --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:11, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:AP'd Out? I missed you with two flares and a pistol, but I only had 5AP when i started attacking you.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:15, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::Gr...Now no one can attack you in your current state otherwise you can pin me and that person for tag teaming... {{Grr}} --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:16, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::: Even if they kill both of you?--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 00:17, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::I'm staying here and idling out. Then I'll win. Bwahaha!--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:18, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::Good news for me. I maintained my 1/3 flare hit rate and got a kill. I'm happy. Now make a section so I can put it there.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 00:20, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::::Woohoo, it wasn't me! I'm not the first to die!--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:23, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::::If there was a genny in that building, you would have been the first to die... {{Grr}} --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:27, 1 July 2010 (BST)

{{Cookie|[[user:Michaleson|Michaleson]]|[[Malton_Manhunt/Axe_Hack's_Manhunt_3#Confirmed_Contestants|AHM3 members]]|reason= himself guessing wrongly}}--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 00:25, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:Axe Hack would have died first at my hands, but earlier today, I tried to log in to another account, and it switched back to Alex. Didn't notice until I'd lost 20AP.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:28, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::Now...If you're in that building, I wonder where the previous contestant I was newspaper slapping in that building ran off to...Hm...And I left me a good amount of AP to run, so don't you worry.  I did what Jack Sparrow would do.  Run away to fight another day. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:31, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::Jack Sparrow fights then runs all drunken like.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 00:33, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::: If your reffering to me, I ran off so you didn't get me, and I don't remmber where it is.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 11:32, 1 July 2010 (BST)

==Smack==

Fie...fie...foe...fum....come out, come out wherever you are....--[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 01:45, 1 July 2010 (BST)

Drat. I'm almost assuredly dead as of tomorrow morning. Just my luck... {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:13, 1 July 2010 (BST)

: Your powers of prediction are astounding. Shoulda saw that comin... oh wait, you did. [[Image:Tongue.gif]] {{User:Kempy/sig}} 04:13, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::Yeah, I was looking for a place to hide since I hadn't seen anyone yet and was getting low on AP, only to discover you there. I knew I was as good as dead right then since I didn't have the AP left to kill you myself. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:43, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::: This is completely off topic and utterly irrelevant, but man... I fucking LOVE your sig. Classy stuff that. {{User:Kempy/sig}} 04:58, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::::Thanks! If you're seeing it in Chrome or Safari (preferably on a computer with the Cochin font), it should look best, since Firefox and Opera don't support some of the stuff I did with it (specifically alpha image masks and/or programmatically generated gradients). And IE, well...let's not talk about IE. I'm just happy it displays my name and has a link that works. But yeah, that actually reminds me that I've been meaning to clean it up again. Oh, and you should see the [[User:Aichon|page that I made to match my sig]]. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 06:53, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::::Heh what do you know it is better in Chrome than FF. But yes I'm a fan of your page, your Sig and some of those user scripts.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 07:05, 1 July 2010 (BST)

== Late entry ==

I see we have a wee bit of a late entry into the competition. I have no problem with her but maybe it would be a good idea if we formally closed registration now.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 02:02, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:Keep it open.  Any late registrations will be penalized 1 kill every 3 days that they are late. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:08, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:Oh, and any late entries will only have 1 day to get in the playing area or they will be officially DQed. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:09, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::Sounds good to me.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 02:09, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::I disagree. It's less open to abuse if we accept this late entry as a one-off and close entry from this point on. For the existing entrants not to know definitively who and who isn't fair game seems to be unfair. For example, a late entrant may stalk the playing area for a few days, gaining location info before officially entering, which to be would be unfair regardless of penalties that remove kills. Now we're live, I'd rather know, for sure, who is and isn't on for killing, and I think allowing late entrants is open to abuse and reduces the legitimacy and significance of the event for those taking part (people have had a long time to register to enter, after all!). --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 02:20, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::::In that case, late entries must provide a timestamped screenshot of their current location when they signed up for the event. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:32, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::::That doesn't solve the problem, as they could still scout around for a few days and enter whenever they like. It's still unfair for the existing entrants that someone can enter halfway through, without having declared their intentions before the manhunt start. Further more, it's just makes it less... legitimate somehow. Analogy could be that no-one enters a marathon after it's begun, starting 3 miles back for every hour late they are. With that rule announced after the run has already begun. Could we settle to allow Miss Fatale entry please and then close the books, for the sake of clarity, fairness and competition? --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 02:50, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::::::Fwiw, I have absolutely no problem with keeping it open with the penalty Axe just set. It seems very fair, and I'd say more targets are always good. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 05:05, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::::::I'm still not convinced. If this is a competition in killing each other, then we should all have the same time frame in which to compete, having known before the start who definitively is a fellow competitor. To allow late entries diminishes the sporting integrity (for want of a better term) of the Manhunt, and damages the confidence in it being a fair game amongst the existing competitors. And that's without yet mentioning the nature of the penalty suggestion, which is both heavy-handed and unwieldy, lacks definition for a clear interpretation in times of arbitration, and was introduced after the game had already begun without player consultation. All in all, I strongly feel that entry should now be closed, that to allow late entrants is damaging, contrary to our competitive aims and potentially open to abuse, and that no penalty that could be imposed is fair or just, either on the existing entrants or the late arrival. --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 14:00, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::::On this note, say someone I'm in a building with finds out about the competition. They could join, kill me 30 seconds later, negating the late cost (assuming they enter in the first 3 days), and having been immune for 3 days of the contest. Meanwhile, I'm penalised for being in a building with someone who wasn't an entrant. See what I mean? How about a delay of 2 days before they can gain kills / be killed for points, or something similar.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 14:04, 1 July 2010 (BST)

== Quick question ==

Is there a time limit for how long we can hold onto kill shots before posting them? If not, you can bet that some of us will be keeping them all until the end, which isn't exactly fun for everyone else. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:23, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:Dunno, I just assumed everyone would want to brag about them ASAP ;D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 02:26, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::I'd prefer it if you post them ASAP.  Makes it easier to see how many contestants you need to hunt to catch up. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:28, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::I'd agree, but given the lack of censorship permitted in the screenshots, it makes sense to not post your own until the last minute, that way others can't find you as easily. Basically, consider this line of comments to be a *nudge nudge* that we need a rule for a time limit. Say, within 24 hours after the kill for the screenshot/iwit to count? Gives people time to move while also keeping the death counts decently timely and accurate. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:34, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::I'd vote for a 24 hour limit.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 02:36, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::::I'd vote for a 24 hour limit too (although, personally, I think 12 hours would suffice). Also, there's been no ruling on censorship in screenshots, I know ZIPO didn't in the opening kill, but I was intending to. With 24 hours maximum until you have to submit a screenshot, that tight time limit still gives a good indication of when there's been activity? --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 02:56, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::::[[Talk:Malton_Manhunt/Axe_Hack%27s_Manhunt_3#Six_hours_to_go|Check here]] for a ruling on it. We have to leave quite a bit of information uncensored, which makes identifying our location always possible, hence why this is an issue at all. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:04, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::::::I'd go for posting immediately, maybe letting people censor their screenies. I'd just like to see the screenies as soon as it happen. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 06:03, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::::::Alright.  I think I have an acceptable compromise.  Only 2 blocks on the map can be uncensored, and whichever 2 blocks are your choice. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:00, 1 July 2010 (BST)

== Revolutionaries ==

LOL @ being killed by a french revolutionary group for being a "fake revolutionary" JUST as the manhunt started. hahah --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 02:35, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:Smells like a conspiracy to me.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 02:37, 1 July 2010 (BST)

== The reason I'm amazing ==

I've found a way to censor without censorring. Fear me.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:17, 1 July 2010 (BST)

==I have awoken==
And I am not a morning person. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:00, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:No you haven't, and yes you are :) --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 16:05, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::well, unidled. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:15, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::Massive gulp of terror.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 16:22, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::::Yeah, this bugger makes me nervous. Go kill him, Yon. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 16:32, 1 July 2010 (BST)
:::::It'll be tomorrow mornign before I'm mobile again, but we'll see then.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 16:34, 1 July 2010 (BST)