View source for Suggestion:20070925 Powered Ruins still visible as Powered

{{Removed|due to a flaw which I realised this morning, and was pointed out by boxy. Revision can be found [[Suggestion:20070925 Ruined and Powered equals Orange|here]]}}
===20070925 Powered Ruins still visible as Powered===

[[Talk:Suggestions|&#39;]][[User:Armareum|arm]][[Signature Race|.]] 02:34, 25 September 2007 (BST)

'''Suggestion type'''<br />
Improvement

'''Suggestion scope'''<br />
Ruined Buildings

'''Suggestion description'''<br />
It's possible to see Ruined buildings and Powered buildings from the street. It's also possible to set up a generator in a Ruined building, and power it. However when you do so, from street level the building still appears Ruined.

This is counter-intuitive.

If a normal building can be seen as "lit" from the street, how could a ruined building '''NOT''' be seen as "lit" from the street?

This suggestion is to change the priority so that Powered always trumps over Ruined.

'''Some information/assumptions'''
*Despite popular belief, it has always been possible to search ruined and ransacked buildings
**Search rates are not reduced to zero, but are a reduced version of the normal rates.
*It is believed that a "lit" ruined or ransacked building raises the search rates to those of a normal building.


====Voting Section====
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'''Keep Votes'''
#'''Keep''' - Ruin is mostly only good for 'zombie-territory' anyway (due to the high AP cost), and allowing survivors to take advantage of that nerfs even that minor advantage. Being able to hide powered generators inside ruined buildings gives too much advantage to survivors for my taste. [[Talk:Suggestions|&#39;]][[User:Armareum|arm]][[Signature Race|.]] 04:36, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''Keep'''- Makes sense. Though I bet that people would say there'd be stuff in front of windows and would block the light. But the idea is reasonable.--[[User:Dragon fang|Dragon fang]] 04:56, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''yea''' - Must be a problem. {{User:Doc Crook/Sig}} 05:01, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - If Kevan isn't going to see sense and make it impossible to power ruined buildings then this is essential. --[[User:The Hierophant|The Hierophant]] 06:06, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - however i would like to see the block a different colour. maybe orange? just to show that the building is ruined. otherwise you couldnt tell the difference between a ruined and a non-ruined.--{{User:Blood Panther/Sig}} 06:20, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#:Yes, that's a possibility. However that option would have been obvious to Kevan from the outset. And a powered building always attracted attention - if it's ruined you're going to find out as soon as you get there. [[Talk:Suggestions|&#39;]][[User:Armareum|arm]][[Signature Race|.]] 06:23, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''Keep''' – Common sense says yes. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 07:10, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Makes sense. --{{User:Midianian/Sig}} 07:14, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''Keep/Change''' - Only if it is highlighted with a different color. Otherwise it may be misleading for survivors. -- {{User:JohnRubin/sig}} 07:30, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#:Oh, to let them know in advance that they will need a toolkit to repair the ruin before they can barricade? Actually, that does sound fair. [[Talk:Suggestions|&#39;]][[User:Armareum|arm]][[Signature Race|.]] 07:42, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''Keeep''' - Meh.--[[User:Seventythree|Seventythree]] 08:41, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Same as JohnRubin.--[[User:Smokerjoker|Smokerjoker]] 08:49, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As BP & John Rubin. --[[User:Sonofagun18|Sonofagun18]] 09:35, 25 September 2007 (BST)

'''Kill Votes'''
#'''Kill''' - This suggestion makes it so that a powered ruined building becomes indistinguishable from a powered repaired building. Survivors free running into such a building will get a nasty shock, finding themselves outside with no warning. Dangerous stuff if low on AP <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] • [[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • 09:47 25 September 2007 (BST)</small>
#'''Kill''' - only because i like it the way it is now more --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 10:38, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Im gonna have to kill on this. My zombie ruined a powered building today, and is now stealthily listening in on harman radio transmissions. Really useful for a clever feral to know which buildings have been broken into in such a way, and having humans drop in on me eavesdropping would be just plain uncool, or worse, ignorant other zombies who simply would smash the machinery of my evil. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 13:42, 25 September 2007 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - as Boxy. --[[User:Pavluk|Pavluk]] <sup>[[Project_Atmosphere|A!]] [[Project_Evil|E!]]</sup> 16:26, 25 September 2007 (BST)

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