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==NEW BOREHAMWOOD LOCATED IN ELSTREE RECRUITING!==
If you are interested in joining the survivor group Poncione Court Police Station, please visit our temporary wiki page:  http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Poncione_Court_Police_Station  
Every pro-survivor welcome! --[[User:Ragrillo|Ragrillo]] 22:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


==Strategy==
I have a proposal for all the survivors of Borehamwood.  In order to keep the zombies from winning just like they did in Monroeville, I suggest that we form a "supra-coalition" or something of the sort.  My proposal is to add every non-PKer/GK-er/Death Cultist human that one crosses paths with into a list of contacts with the same color.  With this, we will know who our true allies are.  Then, once one dies, humans will be able to recognize zombies and vice versa.  All survivors should pledge not to attack humans if they die, and humans in return should not attack zombies that they recognize from the contact list.  This way, humans actually have a shot at surviving as they are left at a huge disadvantage due to the lack of revives.  This would balance the game out a bit by keeping humans on an even ground with those who actually start off as zombies.  --[[User:Ragrillo|Ragrillo]] 01:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:fuck that shit. ya dig??--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Monroeville isn't over yet :) --[[User:Lostcauseman|Lostcauseman]] 13:35, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

''All survivors should pledge not to attack humans if they die'' YES. Mention it on the radio, someone. I was going to do that, but if someone else wants to... Monroeville survivors are probably alive simply because all the zombies have stooped playing.--[[User:Rachel Akebre|Rachel Akebre]] 07:28, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

hey will you guys stop lighting up buildings in dangerous areas they are like a magnet for zeds and the vets will start pking you if you do such stupid things in the future.--[[User:Binlaggin|Binlaggin]] 21:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, I think a large scale group coalition would be a good tactic, it would be interesting to see if it goes even further and starts some crude form of government.--[[User:Wootle|Wootle]] 23:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, that would be interesting. However, large coalitions just collapse due to vested interests and arguments. They [[DEM|occasionally]] [[Dulston Alliance|work]] in Malton, but it's not too common. Most groups like being sovereign. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 05:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::niggsa plz <small>—The preceding [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:J3D|J3D]] ([[User talk:J3D|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/J3D|contribs]]) at an <span class="stealthexternallink">[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=history}} unknown time]</span>.</small>

==River==
I confirm the existence of a river. Screenshot coming.
--[[User:Skritz|Skritz]]
:Does it effect movement? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::You can pass through the firts few tiles into the river normally, but the deeper areas are impassible. --[[User:Hunter X|Hunter X]] 20:22, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Alive or dead? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I forgot to save message, but it was saying that "it's getting too deep". template for location-blocking for the passable is {{tl|river76}} (it's lighter) and impassable {{tl|river85}} (it's darker) --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 22:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
{|
| width=30 height=30 style="text-align: center; {{River76}}" | a river
| width=30 height=30 style="text-align: center; {{River85}}" | a river
| width=30 height=30 style="text-align: center; {{River85}}" | a river
|-
| width=30 height=30 style="text-align: center; {{River76}}" | a river
| width=30 height=30 style="text-align: center; {{River76}}" | a river
| width=30 height=30 style="text-align: center; {{River85}}" | a river
|}
i'm pretty sure the river is the border. quite witty, don't you find? --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 22:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:V. Clever =] {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 23:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::The river is used by Riq in tonights episode of Dead Set - [[User:Shaft121|Shaft121]] 16:02, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
::: Actually, you can get around the river. Its fields as far as the eye can see past it, though. Eventually you hit a black line and get the message "You have reached the impassable edge of the quarantine zone, with layers of razorwire, low fencing and concrete-slab walls blocking your way." [[User:Kaisar|Kaisar]] 17:42, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Actually, there are farm buildings and corn fields across the river - [[User:Shaft121|Shaft121]] 20:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

==Big Brother House==

I wonder if it will follow the general layout as shown here: http://www.backdrifts.co.uk/bro.JPG ? I think I'll head for the south east. [[User:Iggles|Iggles]] 11:22, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:I think the map will be a lot smaller, since the competition is to end in one month. Maybe 3x4 or 4x4? We already know that it will be at least 3x3 (district names "<cardinaldirection> Borehamwood", but there is also Elstree, which is located southwest from Borehamwood. --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 11:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::That didn't mean much in Monroeville. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Looking at the map there might be a railway station in west or south-west Borehamwood --[[User:William2|William2]] 17:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Probably. There is a long train line. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 22:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::There's a railway station in SW BHW. "Elstre and Borehamwood Station." [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:Mapboresw.PNG] --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 22:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

==Creation==
I've replaced the blurb by Link The Window with some of the details we currently know. I've based it (read stolen from) on the Monroeville page. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 09:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
: No worries. That blurb was meant to be a stopgap anyway until more information was known. [[User:Linkthewindow|<span style="color: DodgerBlue">Linkthewindow</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Linkthewindow|<span style="color: DarkRed">Talk</span>]] </sup> 21:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

== Automapper ==

Anyone know if a Firefox Automapper is being set up for Borehamwood? --[[User:Hunter X|Hunter X]] 10:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:[[User:Duke Garland]] made one for Monroe so ask him i guess.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::I set up a crude copy of the Malton Map, so we can add whatever we find. So far, I've seen a lot of fields and rivers. --[[User:Hunter X|Hunter X]] 10:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I doubt the city follows that structure. Check out the [[Monroeville]] map, it'll more likely resemble that. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:16, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::There are alot of new things. Read found a gas station. I found a huge North to South railroad. I never made it to the end. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 10:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::We're talking about the map....but ja i saw those things too, fuckwit. Nah lol you're alright.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 10:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::It was a "petrol station", also, the pubs aren't just called "Blah Arms", they have full names, one was "The Boars Head". I don't know if this was a feature in Monroeville coz I rage quitted that shitness--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 11:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Petrol stations appear to start doors wide open. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:15, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah. Mapping. --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 19:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

You can see '''my''' progress at [[User:Duke_Garland/BHW]]. i'm adding other people's stuff only from  iwitty this time, ''capice''? --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Try [http://mwaness.com/borehamwoodmapper.xpi this]. Feeds the data direct to Duke, helping with his map. --{{User:Lexi/sig}} 07:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

== quick wiki map template==
Here is a java source code file that can be used to create map templates of dimensions x by y from the console/terminal.  Any improvements highly appreciated.  (You'll need a java compiler to run.)
[http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ztkntkhl5we]
--[[User:Quicksivlerzxc|Quicksivlerzxc]] 14:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

== Media in Borehamwood ==

Thought I'd share the local news with everyone.--[[User:DI Marc Sweeny|DI Sweeny]] 10:47, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:BB paper1.jpg]]

[[Image:BB paper2.jpg]]

[[Image:BB paper3.jpg]]

[[Image:BB paper4.jpg]]

:Found a newspaper too (after using 15AP I ended up with 5 FAK's and one Newspaper). {{udspan|It's a recent tabloid. The main story seems to be about Marky from Big Brother.}} - [[User:Whitehouse]] 14:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

== relationships ==

South B starts at y=66. Directly below central B. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:13, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:South B also starts at x=544, (unsurprisingly) directly east of SW B. --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 16:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::I have aligned South B suburb map so that location1 starts at 544-66, but I'm running out of the 10x10 grid to the south. I'll rest a bit and try to find southern border. --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 16:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

==Obvious==
Petrol stations contain fuel cans. I know. Amazing. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

==CCTV==

Not sure if this is unique to Borehamwood, but it's the first time I've noticed them.

{{udspan|In an unlit side room, you can see a darkened CCTV console.}} inside Grinter Terrace Police Station.

{{udspan|Mounted on the walls of the building are several CCTV cameras.}} outside Bewsey Grove Police Station.

{{udspan|A defunct cashpoint machine has a CCTV camera mounted above it.}} outside Haselshaw Bank.

I guess they are most likely just for flavor purposes. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 14:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:There was one outside the O'lEary building as well.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::I've seen several of them as well, with CCTV consoles mostly in police stations. A wild idea is, that once they are powered, we will be able to peek inside of the Big Brother house (check wikipedia for Dead Set episodes short synopsis, in one of them a character from outside does just that. Although, this being CCTV system, it will probably only monitor few nearby cameras. --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 16:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

:::I think I found one in a street --[[User:William2|William2]] 16:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Yup, they're out there as well. --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 17:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

{{udspan|A battered portable generator has been set up here. It is running, and powering a dented radio transmitter that's currently set to 27.56 MHz. In a side room, you can see the glowing screen of a CCTV console.}}

Button "View CCTV" produces:

{{udspan|The console is showing a view of Denney Lane.}}

Button "Switch CCTV camera": 

{{udspan|The screen flickers, and the console shows a view of Craddy Road.}}

Neither Denney Lane nor Craddy Road are amongst 1-block-away streets.
--[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 19:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

'''{{MA|CCTV}}'''

== Map Relations ==

So. Weve got all the compass points for Borehamwood now. What about these other 3 locations. Anyone know where they are in relation? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:13, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:They are also bigger than 10*10 areas. Please god automap! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::Jens scouting suggests 15*15 areas, with all the west being transected by a railway line. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I dunno...I'd bet it's probably more like Monroeville, with all sorts of crazy boundaries. :( A nice clean 15x15 would be much easier to figure out, though, so I hope you're right.
:::In either case...BWHAHAHA! ANOTHER HARDCORE MAP! I think I'm going to be abandoning Malton for a while... :D --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 17:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Yep. If extinction overtake the pask building today, we'll know why. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Ive created the [[Template:Railway]] so it can be mapped. Garages are the same as autorepairs aren't they? Not as garages, its just how theyve been marked on some maps. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I set up a basic grid on the map - it doesn't update dangers - but it will almost certainly need expanding and moving. --[[User:Hunter X|Hunter X]] 18:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Its a start though. I'll add a note. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

::Here's some corners: --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 21:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

::[[Image:Mapborecorners.PNG|200px]]

:::Contributing to the map thing--I cut-and-pasted together a simple one, with parts of Elstreet, SW and W Borehamwood--much of it not covered on the Wiki. --[[User:Mithos Yggdrasill|Mithos Yggdrasill]] 20:20, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:::http://i36.tinypic.com/w3faa.jpg

==Suburb Templates==
At the moment they're all geared towards Malton, and as such are full of non relevant stuff. Ive stolen some basic stuff from the monroeville maps and mocked up a basic one for [[Northwest Borehamwood]] (Just altered the template code and pasted it) improve, or steal the code, whatever. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

Can someone with the appropriate privilages add a link to Borehamwood on the index of the wiki please? --[[User:Hunter X|Hunter X]] 20:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Dont know if anyone is online. Ive added a link in the news section at the top of the page for now, --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

== Mall? ==

If anyone finds a mall I and probably a lot of other people would like to know. So if you find one, post here and tell us which part of the city it's in. Thanks. --[[User:Robert Riste|Robert Riste]] 22:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

:I managed to stumble upon Borehamwood Shopping Centre, in East Borehamwood.  Here's a screenshot: http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/10-29-08_0300hrs_PRIVATE/OUT_570-56_1_4df-b3e-439.html.
:: by the way, it's coordinates are from 570-56 to 571-67. --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 08:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

:There's one about 6 squares into North Borhamwood too, which is labelled "Supermarket". I think it was due north of Gamis Lane (Central Borhamwood), if not, it's within a square or two either way, and no more than about 10 into North. (Sorry I can't be more precise, I wasn't paying enough attention when I walked past) - [[User:Ricold|Ricold]] 22:16, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
::i've got that on my map too. By the way, it looks like it's slight different from common malls, maybe eve mechanic-wise...  --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 07:32, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Also one in [[Radlett]]. Anyone got an inside shot? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 23:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::I can shortly, My character is up there. {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 03:28, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::::: [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/11-03-08_0200hrs_PRIVATE/OUT_505-9_outside_a_super_439-d34-83f.html outside a supermarket] and [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/11-03-08_0200hrs_PRIVATE/IN_505-9_inside_a_superm_a9b-009-2ec.html inside a supermarket]. I've found some beer and wine searching the aisles . {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 04:00, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Even with [[Shopping]], there are no separate stores in "supermarkets". at least in the southern one. Also there are no clothes to put on in there --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 23:25, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

== Bloodied Eye ==

My most sincere apologies if this has already been posted or if I am doing this incorrectly. Has anyone else seen a Bloodied Eye spraypainted on a wall? Here is a screenshot: http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36738052ls1.png
:Yes, check the article, "Playing in Borehamwood" section, near the top. I have seen several of those across the city. --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 00:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Ruined Abbey ==

There's a new building type, the ruined abbey. I don't know if it's the only one, but it's located in East BHW. it's 2x2.

It's strange. I can't close its doors - there's not button for it - but I did successfully barricade it with a length of pipe.

http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/10-29-08_1600hrs_PUBLIC/IN_581-65_pipe_505-d80-979.html [[User:Leon Rosenfeld|Leon Rosenfeld]] 16:52, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

:the fact that you barricaded it with a pipe looks like a good thing to write about on [[Bug Reports]] --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

::This can be seen in tonights episode of Dead Set when Riq lands from the boat - [[User:Shaft121|Shaft121]] 16:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

==The North West corner==
Looking at Dukes map does [[Northwest Borehamwood]] extend all the way to the NW corner? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:North west? you mean upper left? ;) --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:18, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

== [[ALiB|Amusing Locations in Borehamwood]] ==

Hiaz. If you seen any potential ALiB lolcations please feel free to add them to the [[ALiB|list]]! Similiar to [[ALiMv]], ALiB operates around  a temporary town so there's no requirements or community consultation, if you think it's funny '''chuck it on the list'''! --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

== Naming whilst mapping ==

By and large there will be no location pages for individual locations (that is specific named places rather than generic buildings such as "a factory") in Borehamwood yet.

If our intrepid mappers could please check their links after they update their entries, if their link is blue (i.e. live) then chances are that it's a name already used by a place in Malton. As per wiki naming conventions the link should be altered.

For example, The Shiel Building is in both Malton and West Borehamwood.

The link <nowiki>[[The Shiel Building]]</nowiki> directs a user to [[The Shiel Building]] in Malton.

The Borehamwood link should be rendered as <nowiki>[[The Shiel Building (Borehamwood)|The Shiel Building]]</nowiki> which will be a red (i.e. dead) link until the page is created, for example [[The Shiel Building (Borehamwood)|The Shiel Building]].

In time disambiguation pages will need to be made to allow users to find the two locations from one search, and utilising these naming conventions now will allow us to find them easier to perform these tasks.

Doing this helps the newbies find where there are, especially players who have come aboard with this new promotion and may not yet be familiar with Malton.

Cross posting this to all Borehamwood suburb talk pages so that everyone sees it.

Cheers. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

:IMHO wikilinks should be removed from maps. I insisted on it for Monroeville and want to have the same here. City is temporary, no autoblocking, please. big locations, like Mall, ruined abbey, etc. - fine, just like articles from [[:Category:Monroeville Complexes]] --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 12:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

::I agree, no wikilinks by default. Anyone can add a wikilink later, if they feel the building is important (group HQ or something). --[[User:Tybalt Peroni|Tybalt Peroni]] 13:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

:::Sure thing it'd be much easier and faster. Should the wikilinks to "a factory", "a carpark" etc. be removed as well? --[[User:Janus Abernathy|Janus Abernathy]] 13:29, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I'd say lose them all!--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Roger that. :) --[[User:Janus Abernathy|Janus Abernathy]] 21:19, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

== Elstree Studios ==

south of [[Elstree]] lies [[Elstree Studios]]. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]]</sup> 13:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

== Big Brother Building ==

I would like to ask everybody who finds the location of the big brother building to NOT tell where it is. Let others find it on their own. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]]</sup> 15:53, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

:So what do you expect the mappers to do when it's found? Leave a big blank on the map? Seriously, someone post it soon so I can enter the competition and get on with actually playing. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 15:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

:: No you're not! --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 16:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

:: The Big Brother House does not appear to be in the South East corner of the map just so everyone knows. In fact, all that appears to be there are fields. I spent most of my points trying to return to society. Would have gotten there much sooner had the river not been in my way. --[[User:Gamee Shark|Gamee Shark]] 19:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Judging by the news reports on the Borehamwood page, the house is somewhere in South Borehamwood. --[[User:Hunter X|Hunter X]] 08:33, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

{{ud|Upperbox=You are inside the diary room, a blank room with a large, purple chair in the middle. Also here are ''(list of players)''|
Lowerbox='''You say "Greetings, lost souls" to the camera.'''

'''''(Congratulations, you have now been entered into the [[Borehamwood#Competition|prize draw]]!)'''''}}

=) --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:45, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


:::May I add that if anybody does wish to find the house, the clues are there on the map.  If you've been watching the show than the trail to the house should be known to you.  Or you can look at the suburbs in general, there are clues there.  Or you can drop a line on my Talk page and I will be happy to tell you.  After all, some people do not want suspense - [[User:Shaft121|Shaft121]] 22:52, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

==Television Feed==
If you find a working television, you can watch it and see which people are in the Big Brother House ingame.  See http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zomboxb6.jpg for an example - [[User:Shaft121|Shaft121]] 10:37, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

==Lock==
Just like Episode 4 of the series, you can cross the river at the river lock square east of East Borehamwood, NE of the ruined abbey.  However, I believe the house to be close to the woodland by the river in SE Borehamwood - [[User:Shaft121|Shaft121]] 10:46, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

==Country farmhouse==
Does anybody know if there is a country/farm house such as the one which appeared in episode 4?  All of the other landmarks are there - [[User:Shaft121|Shaft121]] 00:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
:dunno about tv series, but there are farmhouses on the map --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 00:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

:Could this be it?: http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/258/13875115ly9.png --[[User:Gamee Shark|Gamee Shark]] 02:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

::Yeah, as it has the boat house and is just north of the locks and the ruined abbey --[[User:Co fragment|Co fragment]] 11:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Rage ==

So... the rage action. I heard the word that there is something new called like that in the game --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:02, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
:Eh? Yeah if you don't have gait and you see a harman you can press rage and automatically get gait :D --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::Yep :) {{udspan|You become enraged at the sight of the survivor, and feel your muscles burning. (You have gained the Lurching Gait skill.)}} --[[User:Janus Abernathy|Janus Abernathy]] 14:01, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Permanently? wow... I wonder if this can be url-spoofed in malton --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 15:07, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Haha, ooo hadn't thought of that. If the bloodied eye accidentally came across you could see how this would. Shame i have no characters w/o gait...give it a try duke. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 21:45, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::It was possible to url-spoof rage in Malton, but Kevan fixed this on the first day. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 23:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Heh, cool. Did you get it? :P And you iz zombie outside BB house? Wanna team up?? I need someone with MoL, or a harman to feast on.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:29, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

==Borehamwood is real==

I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this yet, but, like Monroeville, Borehamwood is a real town. It's actually the location of the current Big Brother house in the UK.--[[User:Felix Weiss|Felix Weiss]] 14:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

: Well, and as well as it being the location of Dead Set, it shares other properties of Dead Set's Borehamwood... Yeah, i guess it should be mentioned in the article, though it is more obvious than in case of Monroeville --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 15:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

::Try the first link on the main article >_> {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 23:54, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Like with Monroeville, someone who lives nearby could go take a tour through the city, take somes pics and post it here :) --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 00:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Whay cant Kevan do a version of a town from Australia!11 {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 01:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::Coz it's a shithole? Nah it's alright. Borehamwood pretty accurately reflects RL. Like the map of borehamwood follows the same general layout too.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:43, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::: Lol! I can't wait to eat some harmans in the Opera House :P [[User:Linkthewindow|<span style="color: DodgerBlue">Linkthewindow</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Linkthewindow|<span style="color: DarkRed">Talk</span>]] </sup> 18:37, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Nah it'd ttly be set in Newcastle. It's the most obvious place... :| --{{User:Nallan/sig}} 03:11, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Several major scenes from the film '''The Shining''' were filmed in Borehamwood, horror fans. Fact. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:A lot of films were filmed in Borehamwood...Elstree Studios is there after all.  In fact, Harrison Ford asked for healing for his back from my nan-in-law when he was in Borehamwood filming one of the Indiana Jones films - [[User:Shaft121|Shaft121]] 22:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Railway ==

There is only one railway station on Borehamwood map. it's on the side of the railway line. Interesting... --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 13:41, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:There's two! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:25, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::ooo? Elstree ''and'' borehamwood?? ;) --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 03:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::No you div. there's one in the middle of the fields in NW borehamwood. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, [534,8]. However, that one looks weird... According to my database, it doesn't have an unique look of railway station, but is a new type of location. Yup, just re-checked the iwitness record from which it came in. I'll update it's look on my map today later, when i'll be parsing new data  --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 15:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== To-scale region map ==

Greetings, comraden. Lately, i've laid my hands on all information i could find about region borders/corners of BHW, and now i present the results. Enjoy.

[[Image:Borehamwood-regions.png|245px]] [[Image:Borehamwood-duke.png|245px]]

p.s. i'm not good at picking colors

p.p.s. 2nd one is colors laid upon my data --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 20:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:Duke. You're bloody marvellous. Can we have a NW borehamwood map then? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:03, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::um... i lack few blocks there --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 20:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Look on [[Northwest Borehamwood]] . I've got all the blocks you're missing on that pages map. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::::hmmm... according to my drawings Parsley Grove School, Keen Bank, Alberic General Hospital and streets near them are cut out into radlett, but on that page are shown as part of Northwest Borehamwood and Radlett starts only few blocks more to the west. need to check --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 20:36, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::::the border between Radlett and Northwest Borehamwood might be very weird. the one thing i'm 100% sure is that when GeraldThompson walked from 524-11 to 523-12 he changed suburbs. that was from where i drew on... --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 20:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::ok, that is actually my mistake. fixing --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 20:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:There's still uncertainty in what maximium x coordinate of Elstree suburb is and where SW BHW starts. I know that 525 is Elstree and 528 - SW BHW, but 2 columns in between... --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::ok, less uncertainty now, in today's data there was a person moving across as x coordinate changed as predicted --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 20:16, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== river funny fact ==

In the southert half of the map there are spots in the middle of the river that are unreachable, there's no way to see them. Well, we can assume that it's just river, but noone would be able to check :) Maybe there's secret Kevan's hideout! --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 19:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
:Are they impassable to the living and dead? Would binoculars see these? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:22, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
::deep river (darker) is impassable to the living and dead. For binoculars you need tall building... Well, looking from the Kemp Building [584,83] to the north-east would highlight 2 out of 8 blocks, but that's all --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 20:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
:::i reckon those 2 will have something amazingly awesome.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
:::: Any idea what the "river locks" do? -- {{User:VI/S}} 00:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::they act as bridges --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 19:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

== pkers ==

anyone seen any pkers heres one
http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/11-18-08_1500hrs_PUBLIC/IN_544-19_borehamwood_pke_da8-476-5d8.html
:now I dead http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/11-28-08_1100hrs_PUBLIC/OUT_542-19_me_killed_by_pk_e56-90c-8ef.html
::sorry signing --[[User:William2|William2]] 07:30, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Hate to say it but with that name you really were asking for it...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:40, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

== Mapping Complete ==

Barring the possibility of a few style errors, the Borehamwood map is now complete.  There are 12 blocks which cannot be discovered, in the deep river.  All other blocks have been discovered.  I have put a complete map on a free web host at http://maunder.fileave.com/mmap.html (487K) -- save a copy!
Thanks to everyone for their good work (especially [[User:Duke_Garland|Duke Garland]]).  -- [[User:Maunder|Maunder]] 05:35, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:Yay :D Thank you all for your work! --[[User:Janus Abernathy|Janus Abernathy]] 13:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I'ld like to thank [[User:Lexi|Lexi]] and [[User:Maunder|Maunder]] for data management, and these people for valueable data contributions (alphabetically): [[User:Bigmaddrongo|Bigmaddrongo]], [[User:Cjo9911|Cjo9911]], [[User:Co fragment|Co fragment]], [[User:GeraldThompson|GeraldThompson]], [[User:Janus Abernathy|Janus Abernathy]], [[User:Jen|Jen]], [[User:Lexi|Lexi]], [[User:Mvario|Mvario]], [[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]], [[User:Pyxis|Pyxis]], [[User:Zarneverfike|Zarneverfike]], [[User:Zolt|Zolt]]. And of course, those who anonymously used Lexi's plugin for scouting --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 14:08, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

==Questions==

Where are people finding syringes to revive with?  And why can't my zombie Rage when he's on the same square as a survivor (and no, I don't already have Lurching Gait).  Any response would be appreciated. [[User:The Fossa|The Fossa]] 04:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:i'm pretty sure there is no syringes ala [[Monroeville]], no idea, rage should work. For me there was a button there that you clicked and miraculously you had gait.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:25, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
::THERE ARE NO SYRINGES!  If you didn't read in the borehamwood description, it is perma-zed if you are killed. <small>—The preceding [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Ragrillo|Ragrillo]] ([[User talk:Ragrillo|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ragrillo|contribs]]) at an <span class="stealthexternallink">[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=history}} unknown time]</span>.</small>

== Suburb Danger map ==
Is the suburb danger map at the bottom of the page being updated? It's different to the danger levels in the individual suburb pages. --[[User:Wootle|Wootle]] 19:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:Probably a coding glitch. Ill have a look. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
::Sorted. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:08, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I think the map should be changed completely to red.--[[User:Gregmayo|Gregmayo]] 05:03, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Mobile Phone Masts and Billboards==

Both are pretty much useless now, as most of the map is ruined / zombie infested; however, the location of these (if they exist in Borehamwood,) is pretty much the only info not yet included in the suburb wiki pages.  I've currently got a couple zeds combing Southeast BHW, but its a time-consuming process.  So, if you see any, maybe take an iwit, or just update the relevant suburb page.  --[[User:Zarneverfike|Zarneverfike]] 04:19, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

== Since it is unlikely the Borehamwood quarrantine would be lifted... ==

...and while there are still ~1000 moving bodies about, what are players' opinions about bringing in "permenant death" via Headshot? <BR>A significant majority of the population, survivor and zombie alike, have advanced skills. There are plenty of ruins and darkened alleyways to hide. It could be fair game for either side. <BR>I ask because I'm curious to what people's reactions about an "end game" scenario for a city that is still sort of active. [[User:Bystander|Bystander]] 16:55, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

:As a standing survivor in Borehamwood, I'm for adding permadeath with headshot.  I think it would re-balance the game, by giving survivors the edge.  Don't think it'll ever happen though.  I'm pretty sure I read somewhere Kevan saying permadeath headshot wouldn't be coming back to Monroeville, so I doubt it would be added to Borehamwood.  --[[User:Zarneverfike|Zarneverfike]] 09:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's an interesting concept. Because Headshot involves contact with zombies, which means zombie metagaming swings hundreds of other zombies in your direction. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:::True, but with the map as it is now, its pretty much a game of hide and seek.  Even if you had a bounty on you for being a zombie hunter, its still sort of random whether your found by zeds or not (unless you allow yourself to be scent trailed.)  I guess what I'm saying is if it were implemented, I wouldn't worry about using it.  --[[User:Zarneverfike|Zarneverfike]] 10:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I think permanent zed death via headshot would be good, you would have to find a better way of telling the players about this thou. Guessing most would agree to it. --[[User:Athur birling|Athur birling]] 23:45, 28 April 2009 (BST)

== Suburb Danger Map ==

Since the whole map is pretty much universally Ghost Town / very dangerous and will likely stay that way, are there any objections to either removing the Danger Map, or to moving off the main page.  Since the zeds are in control with most of the city in ruins, it doesn't really provide useful (or up to date) info for either side.  So, yeah... any objections to getting rid of it?  --[[User:Zarneverfike|Zarneverfike]] 10:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:Move it to its own page, make a note of where that page is and record the fact that the zombies have ruined pretty much everything. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::Really? i'm in an area with lots of repaired buildings --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 15:28, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Its only 11 buildings duke, admittedly 3 of them are hospitals..... (And now you're vaguely paranoid). Haven't eaten me yet!--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Point me in that direction, all I can find are inactive zombies (kill them for XP denial) and one unlucky player who I promptly munched. [[User:Informant|Informant]] 03:09, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I found a survivor yesterday and chewed him, but i login only about once 20 hours, so he's long gone now today... --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::I've been doing slow tours of Borehamwood but I've not found survivor HQ. It's only a matter of patience tho, soon it'll be itchy tasty time. [[User:Informant|Informant]] 22:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Is there a table that shows the standing humans+zombies? And if there isn't could we make one?--[[User_Talk:I3rutal God|<span style="color: Red">I3rutalGod</span>]] <sup> [[Malton Poet's Society|<span style="color: green">MPS</span>]] </sup> 02:05, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::There's one in this article, mate. Just needs updating by checking the Stats from the main game page. [[User:Informant|Informant]] 21:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Elstree - Brazey Bank and it's surroundings are totally repaired and 'caded --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::omg, there are at least 3 survivors there and they are keeping me down. need a zombie group, quick! --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 17:26, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::::All brains gone :( [[User:Informant|Informant]] 01:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Feral zombiez gather too slow :/ --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 16:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ran all the way from NE for nothing, haha. We'll sniff them out again! [[User:Informant|Informant]] 02:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Well, survivors read these pages as well, so by the time you see it and get there, any smart humans would have fled the area.  --[[User:Zarneverfike|Zarneverfike]] 06:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Actually they stayed there for about 3-4 days, and i have now 4 profiles of them. Not that having the profile helps in any way --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[User:Duke Garland/BHW|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 11:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

== Borehamwood Dimensions ==

I've been looking at the Monroeville and Borehamwood maps, and noticed that nobody mentioned the dimensions of Borehamwood.  It seemed incredibly huge to me, and I was wondering if anyone knows how large the city is?  I know Malton is 100x100, and Monroeville is 98x98, so what is Borehamwood?

Apologies if it's already been mentioned and I simply overlooked it; it's 12:14am, and I've got a migraine. --[[User:Fujiko Mine|Fujiko Mine]] 05:13, 30 March 2009 (BST)