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:'''Please to be no touchy anything on page. Archiving of [[User talk:Misanthropy|talk page]] for de-cluttering.'''
:'''Cheers'''.
:{{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 

=Protections=

You know, technically, if you protected ''every'' page on the wiki, nobody would be able to submit you for misconduct. {{tongue}} --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:15, 11 April 2010 (BST)
:Drat! Of course! Other sysops could still edit... Well, if you ever reach the point of pulling off a coup, you could start with this.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:20, 11 April 2010 (BST)
::Use Wiki-ninjas to trap him in the deepest dungeon. Then, take the resulting crat election by storm, and launch protection-Coup '10. It's brilliant! --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:24, 11 April 2010 (BST)
:::Well, it's the last ever series of big brother this year, so I can see Davina snapping and locking them all in there. Make it happen, Mis.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:26, 11 April 2010 (BST)

=Seriously?=

What? I'd never be selected. To quote every girlfriend I've ever had. "You're too laid back, why the hell don't you seem to care about anything? Why is everything such a laugh to you?" The entire idea is to encourage conflict, and as explained elsewhere, its not really AP efficient. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:36, 11 April 2010 (BST)
:Dead Set was enough for me. Why don't '''YOU''' sign up. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:41, 11 April 2010 (BST)
::Fair point. Any particular motive? [98, 62] , [63,6] if you're really that desperate. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:47, 11 April 2010 (BST)
:::Always worrying for someone who's going to be a crat in 4 weeks. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:51, 11 April 2010 (BST)
::::If it helps I'm going to be on the Greenwich Meridian line in 2 minutes. Good Hunting. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:58, 11 April 2010 (BST)


=Comments=

From now on your comments are unwelcome on my talk page. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 19:20, 12 April 2010 (BST)

=Your reward=

{{Guinness|Yonnua|Misanthropy|reason=arbies.}}--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:31, 12 April 2010 (BST)

=Really going to pick your brain...=
I've recently redone my groups recruit page. I have multiple sections, which can be edited. I don't want them edited. I add the <nowiki>__NOEDIT__</nowiki> code to each section. The edit buttons go away. ----> Recrutment page no longer has edit buttons.... Take away the code, and they come back. Add the code back to my recruitment page... and try the <nowiki><noinclude> and </noinclude></nowiki> tags,... The edit buttons dissapear on my groups recruit subpage, all the edit buttons come back on the recruitment page,... and then if you look at my advertisment, the edit buttons are there,... but not on the groups recruit subpage. How odd? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 04:27, 15 April 2010 (BST)
:Looks like you figured it out. That was exactly what I was going to suggest, since you're not allowed to have headers in your recruitment ads. Also, your ad is actually too tall. Mind shrinking it a bit? 800px is the maximum height. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:44, 15 April 2010 (BST)
::Is there an easy way of figuring out the height of a table? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 05:50, 15 April 2010 (BST)
:::In my browser there is. If you're using Chrome or Safari, just right click on the table, select Inspect Element, then click on the part of the code that corresponds to the table, and on the right side, click it so that it shows the information for Computed Style. It'll show you the actual height of the element in the browser. I think there's something similar in Firefox, but probably not that advanced, and you probably need an extension or two, I'd guess. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:55, 15 April 2010 (BST)
::::Sod it. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 05:56, 15 April 2010 (BST)

= :P =
You, sir, are granted permission to bolster the ranks of my fine "group", and are deemed to be an amiable person. Thanks! --[[User:Spiderzed|Spiderzed]] 15:22, 16 April 2010 (BST)

=Thanks=
.. For the warning. I keep mixing the rules of different places up. [[User:Infrastructure|Infrastructure]] 16:07, 16 April 2010 (BST)

=DHLA Help=

So you left a comment and I'm responding. Could you show me this?
--[[User:Vlace|Vlace]] 00:58, 17 April 2010 (BST)Vlace

Yeah, something to show who we are, what we do, a chat for the group, that kinda thing.
--[[User:Vlace|Vlace]] 01:05, 17 April 2010 (BST)vlace

Thanks, alot.

How do you get an image for the group up?
--[[User:Vlace|Vlace]] 13:11, 17 April 2010 (BST)Vlace

Thanks again
--[[User:Vlace|Vlace]] 13:43, 17 April 2010 (BST)Vlace

Can you tell me how to add the group to the listing? (Like I know, but there are some things that are escaping my grasp.)
--[[User:Vlace|Vlace]] 14:03, 17 April 2010 (BST)Vlace

Alright cool deal. Thanks so much
--[[User:Vlace|Vlace]] 14:21, 17 April 2010 (BST)Vlace

Could

Could we get the Dunell Hills map on to the army page?
--[[User:Vlace|Vlace]] 14:58, 17 April 2010 (BST)Vlace

Never mind, got it. Thanks.
--[[User:Vlace|Vlace]] 17:50, 17 April 2010 (BST)Vlace

At first it was a little confusing but then i got the hang of it. Does it have to have the colors underneath the key?
--[[User:Vlace|Vlace]] 02:00, 18 April 2010 (BST)Vlace

alright. could you do that? and notice that those colors are the ones i want in my key. im just wondering if i can get rid of the {{mismaplear}} and stuff like that
--[[User:Vlace|Vlace]] 02:21, 18 April 2010 (BST)Vlace

Great! This is amazing. Thanks so much
--[[User:Vlace|Vlace]] 02:45, 18 April 2010 (BST)Vlace


=fing=
{{Quote|1=NoobCunt|2=look this up i dont give a damn about your wiki i got in without even touching the heavily barricaded building so quit bugging me about it}}

fucking hate youtube users. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:20, 17 April 2010 (BST)
:Ahem. ''Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha''. Tard baskets. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:29, 17 April 2010 (BST)

{{Quote|1=Noobcunt|2= i have done it... i dont care what u said and now i dont think i should even look at ur responses i know ive done it and id cut off mi own hand if i havent so good day too you }}

Aaaaaand then I reveal to him that I'm relaying these comments elsewhere in the UDmetagaming scene and he responds with...

{{Quote|NoobCunt|there is no UD forums and the wiki is for info im not stupid enaugh too believe that wich actually makes me laugh at you...}}

Lol! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:33, 18 April 2010 (BST)

=Newbie=
I know the Welcome Newbie page referred me to Project Mentor and or Project Welcome, but in going through that I noticed that at least one of those users claims to be inactive. Any recommendations on someone to show me the ropes and/or where I can help out, so I don't have to figure it all out on my own? --[[User:Austin hunt|Austin hunt]] 03:23, 18 April 2010 (BST)
:Awesome, thanks. Any suggestions on where to start, besides the basic stuff I've been doing with MCM?--[[User:Austin hunt|Austin hunt]] 03:39, 18 April 2010 (BST)
::Perfect, that helps a lot. And I will be sure to ask if I have more questions.--[[User:Austin hunt|Austin hunt]] 03:51, 18 April 2010 (BST)

=Sorry=

Sometimes I just get filled with Newspaper rage. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:42, 20 April 2010 (BST)

=Mah bullet points=
<nowiki>:<</nowiki> How dare thee.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 23:41, 23 April 2010 (BST)

=Thanks=

Okay, thanks for the help with the image-uploading.  I understand exactly what I did wrong now.  You know, for a misanthrope you're actually a pretty nice person.--[[User:Pinata|Pinata]] 04:09, 2 May 2010 (BST)

=Free Food=
{{Cookie|[[User:TripleU|TripleU]]|[[User:Misanthropy|Misanthropy]]|reason=hosting the [[User:Misanthropy/HIStory Past Present and Future Volume III|HIStory Past Present and Future Volume III]]}}
With every cookie comes a free vouch for bureaucrat. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 04:38, 2 May 2010 (BST)

=[[Template:Community Portal|Hope you don't mind...]]=
Really,... -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 05:28, 2 May 2010 (BST)
:I'm not to sure about how you phrased it. "'''related to''' location stubs." It's all about location stubs. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 05:42, 2 May 2010 (BST)
::'''That's''' what I'm talking about. Start your pitchforks, it's time for some torching! --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 05:51, 2 May 2010 (BST)
:::Let 'em burn! -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 05:52, 2 May 2010 (BST)

=Looking for an answer...=
Why does my [[User:Poodle_of_doom/Nav|Nav Template]] break pages? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 23:58, 3 May 2010 (BST)
:The center tabs are breaking the page.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎2}} 00:00, 4 May 2010 (BST)
::Yeah, the center tabs should be inside the tables, not outside them. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:09, 4 May 2010 (BST)
:::Awesome, I saw TripleU was kind enough to look at it too... Looks like he got it fixed. I knew it had to be some stupid little shittin' thing that was jacking it all up. Though, looking at the code now, it still has the "center" code outside the box. It seems to work now...  Thanks! -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 00:19, 4 May 2010 (BST)

=Covering my pooper...=
I'm looking to make a template for my [[User:Poodle of doom/Ass Hat of the Day|Newest Page]]. I hope something [http://megomuseum.com/albums/album28/asshat.gif like this] wouldn't be classified as pornography by some uber zealot,... Which is why I'm asking,.... what do you think? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}}
:Without the caption I wouldn't even have known that's an ass. You're well in the clear with that one. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:03, 4 May 2010 (BST)
::Thanks again... like I said,.... uber zealots.... -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 01:10, 4 May 2010 (BST)

=Election=

Ah well. So long as we get Lib-Lab, everything will be fine. Just so long as we can avoid a Tory government.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:13, 7 May 2010 (BST)
:Well that's the thing isn't it. Labour have said since the beginning of election night that they would support electoral reform. So, hopefully Nick will see that we don't need a poor stable government, we need a good government with a chance of imbalance.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:23, 7 May 2010 (BST)

= The [[DEM]] Disambiguation =
Regarding [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DEM&diff=1706256&oldid=1706224 this] edit, could you show me in what way ¯\(°_o)/¯ is connected with the abbreviation DEM? I had stated my reason for removing it on the talk page - I'm failing to find any relation between ¯\(°_o)/¯ and "DEM". If there is indeed no connection, the group should not be listed in the disambiguation, it'd be just as if I added [[Department of Emergency Management]] to every single disambiguation I can find, regardless of whether there's a reason to list it or not. [[User:G F J|G F J]] 09:34, 9 May 2010 (BST)
:The reason it's on there is because it's a retarded joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 10:27, 9 May 2010 (BST)
::Explain to me, then, how you became an authority on how that group pronounces its name? If the members of that group feel it could be confused with any of the other groups on that disambiguation page, then it's entirely up to them. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 14:43, 9 May 2010 (BST)
:::OK, but to go by that logic, I could as well add the DEM to any disambiguation I see fit, all I'd have to say is "we refer to ourselves that way, we use that abbreviation". In my opinion, this would be really senseless and inappropriate, but if a visible connection between a group and the abbreviation is not necessary, it would be very much possible. Would you like me to do that? Is the state of allowing everyone to add themselves to whatever disambiguation they want to be a part of, regardless of whether there's any actual connection, really what you prefer? [[User:G F J|G F J]] 14:55, 9 May 2010 (BST)
::::If you would like to be that petulant, you're perfectly free, I am neither able nor bothered to stop you. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 14:56, 9 May 2010 (BST)

=heya, btw,=

regarding A/VD, we don't usually bother putting 3 edit vandals on A/VD because it's more of a record keeping module for escalations, and since they've beat the ticker straight away, we don't really need to put them on there. Not to say you should take it off, it's k, just you don't need to :D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:48, 10 May 2010 (BST)
:I'm just a little cautious about doing everything 100% by the book, <s>in case I get stung by it two or three weeks later by someone looking to raise their profile before a re-evaluation</s> in case I make a mistake. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:12, 10 May 2010 (BST)
::S'kool, on my first day as op I did the same thing for the same reason and boxy gave me the same speech I told you. THE CYCLE WORKS :D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:33, 10 May 2010 (BST)

If it helps you feel any better, I was waiting to see if DDR would comment on you putting the data on A/VD since I was curious which was the correct way. Although, had he not, I was just planning to do a text search of A/VD and visually confirm whether or not there were examples of banned users under the three-edit rule. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 09:18, 10 May 2010 (BST)
:ya. [[User_talk:DanceDanceRevolution/archive/2009/Q2#VD|it looks]] like I just removed the edit at the time. So keeping it or removing it is right either way. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:11, 12 May 2010 (BST)

=Vandalisms=

Do you believe a checkuser between [[User talk:VashX20|this user]] and [[User:CptWesker|the one you perma'd earlier]] is in order? Both were created around midnight, editted the same page (which one of them made), and accused each other of being the leader on it. I know it's pretty strawman, but should we do a checkuser, just to be sure?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 16:08, 10 May 2010 (BST)
:I always run a check user on anyone I ban, and the one I ran on Wesker showed nothing. You can double check it in case Vash was created afterwards but I don't think it was. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 16:09, 10 May 2010 (BST)
::Nah it wasn't. I assumed there would have been a check, but just wanted to make sure.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 16:14, 10 May 2010 (BST)
:::Checkuser all vandal users, those you suspect of sockpuppeting votes and anyone involved in a debate about how zerging is cool. You would be amazed how many of the latter have alternate accounts. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:29, 10 May 2010 (BST)

=sigh=
I never had any intention of winning, but I'm still disappointed in what both VVV and RHO are doing on your competition, cause (particularly VVV) isn't helping the actual cause of the comp at all... I would at leased ask that you visit the talk page of your competition and address or discuss my request to have the image rule removed or amended. At the moment its ended up in shitty image spam and little else. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:08, 12 May 2010 (BST)

=Suggestion voting=
I looked around the wiki, but couldn't find who is allowed to vote on suggestions. Thanks in advance if you can clarify for me. [[User:The Surreal McCoy|The Surreal McCoy]] 01:46, 13 May 2010 (BST)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>yoink* Anyone can vote on suggestions. The only places where voting is restricted is in regards to some of the admin pages (e.g. [[A/M]] and [[A/VB]]). {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:12, 13 May 2010 (BST)
::Yep, like Aich said, any vote on the wiki except for Vandal Banning or Misconduct can be voted on by any member of the community. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 12:58, 13 May 2010 (BST)
:Thanks for the quick reply, I'll be reading all the suggestion rules and whatnot so perhaps I can join in. [[User:The Surreal McCoy|The Surreal McCoy]] 03:21, 18 May 2010 (BST)

=Chomp=
Thanks for the nibble. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:39, 19 May 2010 (BST)
:Om nom nom. You taste terrible. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 18:47, 19 May 2010 (BST)
::The profile name was a clue. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:00, 19 May 2010 (BST)
:::I assumed that meant you were a main course, not a soup. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 19:09, 19 May 2010 (BST)

=[[User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/DCGuide|Feral Death-Cultist Guide]]=
It's finished so far. I'll fine-tune it a bit over the next couple of days and ask a native speaker to proof-read it for me, but basically, it's ripe for [[Developing Guides]]. Any further comments on it beforehand? --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 19:45, 24 May 2010 (BST)
:Thanks, that was some good advice. The headers all went up by one level, and I've put more examples into it. Is there yet any section in particular of which you think that it should have more examples and/or more explanation? Else, I'll just wait for Sherry to be done with the proof-reading and will then submit it to DS. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 15:56, 27 May 2010 (BST)
::Actually, I've never GKed in Millen Hills. I just looked up burbs with many NTs, looked which of those only have a couple of hospitals, and Millen Hills was the first one I found. While RRs are great places for GKing, I'll think I'll leave it at that, as a.) RRs tend to vanish and re-appear and that particular piece might become outdated later and b.) the point is that a bottleneck for a particular resource can make it more attractive to attack a normally less important TRP first. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 13:34, 29 May 2010 (BST)
:::Very good points. I'm aware of keeping an eye on adjoining suburbs, but I wanted to keep it simple as that wasn't the main point. However, I settled now for Molebank as an example suburb, where the situation is a bit clearer even if you consider the adjoining suburbs, and added a note about considering TRPs near the suburb borders. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 14:03, 29 May 2010 (BST)
::::As my proof-reader is currently a bit bogged down, I went ahead and submitted the guide to [[Developing_Guides#Feral_Death-Cultist_Guide|DG]] anyway. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 15:14, 30 May 2010 (BST)


=Links in headers=

We should fucking outlaw them. They break incoming links all over the place, which I think if the main reason Wikipedia prohibits them. People can fucking use the link templates or just deal. Whatcha think, should I suggest a policy change or something? {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 22:21, 31 May 2010 (BST)
:Currently I'm going back to bed. :P Maybe later! {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 22:27, 31 May 2010 (BST)
:Wait...if I understand correctly, piped links in headers break the TOC (and other section links, such as [[User_talk:Revenant#Wabbajack|this one]]) for you guys? They work fine for me and always have. Sounds to me like it might just be a browser issue, unless I'm misunderstanding the issue. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:39, 31 May 2010 (BST)
::No, that's all it breaks. Edit summary links and TOCs. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:41, 31 May 2010 (BST)
:::Are you using Firefox or something else? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:42, 1 June 2010 (BST)
::::Firefox. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:44, 1 June 2010 (BST)

=Leaving=
I'm actually looking to take another leave of absence... similar to the one I took after I first registerd. Lock my talk page please. Only the talk page. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 01:47, 1 June 2010 (BST)

=Hello my good man!=

{{Mayor2010}}
--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:36, 1 June 2010 (BST)
:I can't remember what you posted on my talk page, but I know I was meant to reply.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:42, 2 June 2010 (BST)
::Remembered. I scored your donkey.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:42, 2 June 2010 (BST)

=Election=

If the position is not already filled, I would like to suggest myself as your running mate. After all, a vote for misanthropy is a vote for all harmankind! <tt>:D</tt> {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 08:51, 4 June 2010 (BST)

=My vote=
I think I may just vote for you. After seeing your sig all over the wiki, I dont think I have a choice. o_o --{{User:Senergy/Sig}} 21:06, 4 June 2010 (BST)

= Your ruling =

May I please game the system by adding three white "a"s to the front of my party's name?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 4 June 2010 (BST)
:You cannot. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:52, 4 June 2010 (BST)
::While I'm here, you're an RG mod, right? If so, I'd like to point out that my first two registered kills (The Account is Yonnua Koponen) are in fact the same kill from different perspectives, reported a day apart. I know because, as a player who was only a month or so old, I did not have the physical power to kill someone twice in two days. As such, I'd like to formally request that my harshest escalation from that point (5 points), is removed, as I should never have reached that escalation. Consider this a very rage-filled appeal to have my bounty halfed. Or, don't. Whatever really, I just thought after 2 and a half years of not being a PKer I should probably deal with it.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:04, 4 June 2010 (BST)
:::Or, if that doesn't work for you, I have <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6937/brucegaylordpker.jpg F]</span><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8083/yonnua1.jpg o]</span><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6616/yonnua2.jpg u]</span><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6488/yonnua6.jpg r]</span> Bounty reports against me.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:10, 4 June 2010 (BST)
::::Be taking it to the forums, all that stuff needs to be able to be traced to public postings. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:19, 4 June 2010 (BST)
:::::Will do.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:21, 4 June 2010 (BST)
Hai i have a problem with your summation, the zombiecratic and humanitive parties provided a general platform for multiple candidates to run under the last election, from reading the arby page it seems to be assumed that only one candidate can run under either party? This was not the case in the last election, those who wanted to run under a more specialised platform created their own party, as has been the case her up until this point. Furthermore i am of the opinion that any discussion which affects the actual layout of the page should be done on the talk page allowing all affected parties to contribute instead of inside an arbitration case limited to two people  [[Big Bash 3|<span style="color: #FF0000; font-size: 80%">&hearts;</span>]] [[User:MoonShine|<span style="color:Black">'''Moonie'''</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:MoonShine|Talk]] | [[User:MoonShine/Testimonials|Testimonials]]</sup></small> 00:10, 5 June 2010 (BST)

Mis, what was done before is that the Major parties had primary elections to decide who actually ran for their party. That was why they were called Major parties, and was the major discrepency between the majors and minors.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:24, 5 June 2010 (BST)
:Malton is English, use an English system. Also stop confusing my drunk brain. {{Grr}} {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:25, 5 June 2010 (BST)
::Yeah, but it was based on a presidential election, and was made by Americans, so that's the system they used. ''I'' wanted a By-election, but no, it had to be a mayoral elction. :( --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:26, 5 June 2010 (BST)
:::Sounds to me like the simple solution is to allow any party to have primaries if they are contested, since it treats them all the same. American or British government be damned, since it's the simple answer that works. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:45, 5 June 2010 (BST)
::::Fuck that shit, why are there major in the first place? Just make them all on level pegging. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 07:50, 5 June 2010 (BST)
:::::As far as i understood they were major because they provided a general platform for candidates to run under: survivor and zombie. The minor parties were for people who were running under another platform say fundameltalists, PKers, pimp hat supporters. [[Big Bash 3|<span style="color: #FF0000; font-size: 80%">&hearts;</span>]] [[User:MoonShine|<span style="color:Black">'''Moonie'''</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:MoonShine|Talk]] | [[User:MoonShine/Testimonials|Testimonials]]</sup></small> 08:34, 5 June 2010 (BST)
::::::Ahh. I think they should all just be equal but that's just cause I want Blob as mayor. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 15:18, 5 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::The problem there is that they aren't really serving that purpose right now. The zombie canidate is running under a third party, while a PKer (yourself) is running on the survivor ticket instead of a third party. Since the major parties aren't serving their intended purposes (survivor and zombie parties), I don't see why we don't just make them all even. {{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 18:33, 5 June 2010 (BST)
::::::::I ''am'' a survivor, though. Hence why I'm running for that party. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 18:51, 5 June 2010 (BST)

=Apology=

I am sorry for anything said on my talk page, I am an asshole and it somehow ends up on the wiki. I can't blame it on anything other than my lack of respect to others, and myself for the choices I make before I log in. I have made an effort to not allow myself to do any drugs that may alter my personality before logging on. Some of the things I have said on here do sound harsh, and for that I am sorry.--[[User:Bonghit420|Dirty]] 10:10, 5 June 2010 (BST)
:Dude, don't sweat it. It's cool. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 18:51, 5 June 2010 (BST)
::I have a couple pages I need deleated [[Userbonghit420/sig2]] and [[User:Bonghit420/Agunin_Anoven]] and [[Ackland Mall Noise Abatement Society]] and [[Kinch Heights Dead/Recruitment]] and [[Kinch Heights Dead/Roster]] I don't know where to put them to have them deleated--{{User:Bonghit420/sig}} 20:51, 8 June 2010 (BST)

=Well, that was today's laugh=
<blockquote>'''Welcome to the wiki'''<br>
Hi Furniture! As we can see, you made your first edits to this wiki not long ago.</blockquote>
4-5 years is "not long ago" now? Hah! [[User:Furniture|Furniture]] 19:37, 5 June 2010 (BST)

=About Welcomenewbie Templates=

Just as an FYI, we have a shit-ton of research that shows that greeting new users with templates is ''worse'' than personalized messages that insult them when it comes to encouraging new user contribution.  Like, it actively causes them to leave.

I'm not sure how much of that research we're allowed to publish (it wasn't done by us at the Wikimedia Foundation, but by some dudes at Carnegie-Mellon and the University of Minnesota), but I'll see if I can't find it for you.--[[User:Jorm|Jorm]] 02:21, 8 June 2010 (BST)
:Really? I do make sure I don't just add the template and sign it, there's also a message with my talk link and the like in it. If you wanna fire it privately in case it's not cool to publish it there should be an email address for me here. I've been wanting to overhaul the template before anyway, but I was mainly wanting to compress it to look less imposing. Might be worth looking into an alternative. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:31, 8 June 2010 (BST)
::So, I guess it's not a secret or anything since they published it themselves [http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/connect/cscw_10/docs/p107.pdf here].
::It's quite a wall of academic-ese, but they (the authors) flew into SF last week and talked with us (the design team at Wikipedia) about various things we can do to avoid "newbie death."   It pretty much boils down to this:  the very first interaction a new user has with a wiki's community will drive EVERY. SINGLE. interaction thereafter.  If a newbie's first edit gets reverted - especially without a comment on their talk page about it - they're gone.  It's a near 100% loss rate.  There are a couple other documents out there I can probably swing you if you want.
::We're "not for profit" so all our research goes public eventually but sometimes its time sensitive.--[[User:Jorm|Jorm]] 03:37, 8 June 2010 (BST)
:::See my first talk interaction was having Ross drop WN on me, but then again I was hardly a stranger to web communities or even wikis at that point. Given that it's twenty to four in the morning I'm gonna leave that doc for now, skim it tomorrow, but does it suggest anything in preference to auto-drop templates? I'd toyed with the idea of making a batch of actual greetings as userpages in my namespace and substing them one at a time so as to keep a bit of variance and retain all the relevant links in a welcome. Basically an expanded version of my standard addendum to the template, only with maybe four or five differently worded versions to remove the sense of repetition. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:44, 8 June 2010 (BST)
::::I think every greeting person should have their own personalized message. That'd be cool.--{{User:Jordan Salafack/sig}} 03:55, 8 June 2010 (BST)
:::::Yeah, some people do that, Mis does it and I do when I WN. But most don't. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 03:59, 8 June 2010 (BST)
::::::I always add a few lines after the template, but I'm going to whip up a few fuller paragraphs to use in future, incorporating the template's main points in the body of the text. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 04:00, 8 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::I had a project that tried to compress the points of WN into a smaller box, but I gave it up. BTW, can you plz arbie my case, you're my first pick. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 04:04, 8 June 2010 (BST)
::::::::Say pretty please. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 04:05, 8 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::::Pretty please? And you should sleep more because your new page you just made is all [[Editing User:Misanthropy/Sandbox13a|bonked]] up.  --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 04:08, 8 June 2010 (BST)
::::::::::What's wrong with it? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 04:09, 8 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::::::The "editing" at the front, you drongo. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 04:18, 8 June 2010 (BST)

=email=

you didn't specify an email on this account ;( --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:14, 8 June 2010 (BST)
:Aha, apparently I didn't. I might later. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 06:15, 8 June 2010 (BST)
::I strongly urge you to stop with sonny, you've already rolled him enough, he'll never stop. pls. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:30, 8 June 2010 (BST)
:::That guy has a serious bug up his butt. --{{User:Jordan Salafack/sig}} 06:32, 8 June 2010 (BST)
::::DDR, I'm having fun watching him stumble like a spastic child, I don't feel the urge to stop undermining whatever fragile sense of worth he might have been clinging to. And yeah, Jordan, it's pretty much the first thing most people learn from sonny bunny is his extreme anger at the fact that he hasn't succeeded in anything worthwhile since he learnt to tie his shoes all by his lonesone. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 06:33, 8 June 2010 (BST)
:::::I feel bad for him. Let's invite him over to our table. I don't think it will hurt our popularity much. --{{User:Jordan Salafack/sig}} 06:38, 8 June 2010 (BST)
::::::Well that's what I was trying to do... {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 06:39, 8 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::That's fine. It's just going down a similar road that I did last night which apparently makes me a SUPER TERRIBLE DRAMA MAN even though the only people who have gone against it have admitted that it was only because they thought the drama was too much, not that Boxy made the right choice and I the wrong, and they choose to disregard the months and months of good work I've done... Sigh. Some people are idiots. The point is, you have the high ground as you've always had, you should keep it that way imo. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:43, 8 June 2010 (BST)
::::::::Oh I'll always have the high ground over that pathetic manchild. You get mails yet bro? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 06:45, 8 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::::Yup yup yup, thakns. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:55, 8 June 2010 (BST)

=You?=

Sorry, you'll have to explain this to me, I'm half asleep.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:25, 10 June 2010 (BST)
:Well, right now I'm heading down to join the BB. And what would I do about the poor people of the Hazeldine Building? I've been standing outside for a year now, so it just wouldn't feel right to not be there for them. :( Maybe in the future. (After BB3)--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:30, 10 June 2010 (BST)
::But we have ''five'' NT buildings! It's like Tom Hanks' flat in "Big"! {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:33, 10 June 2010 (BST)

= Conspiracy =

I have unveiled your thick tapestry of lies. You see, I realised what was happening when I saw that [[RDD]] was an anagram of [[User:DanceDanceRevolution|DDR]]. What I don't understand about the whole evil scheme though, is why did you need the flying sharks?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:26, 13 June 2010 (BST)
:Why ''wouldn't'' I need them?
::Touche.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 15:47, 14 June 2010 (BST)
:::cause they the best
:::[[Image:1243599986875.jpg|200px]]
:::--{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 16:00, 14 June 2010 (BST)

=[[Malton Manhunt/Axe Hack's Manhunt 3]]=
This is a reminder to you, and all the other contestants, that [[Malton Manhunt/Axe Hack's Manhunt 3|AHMH3]] begins in 5 days as of this post.  The playing area is the top 16 suburbs in a 4x4 formation on the Northwest of the map.  You are expected to be in the area at the start of the Manhunt, so if you're not already in the area, get moving!  And happy hunting to you. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 16:20, 26 June 2010 (BST)

I'm doing this as a double check on the number of actual contestants, so if you don't mind, please [[Talk:Malton_Manhunt/Axe_Hack's_Manhunt_3#Just_wanna_confirm...|sign the list]]. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:42, 30 June 2010 (BST)

=You can't run...=
{{AHWatch}}

My 7 eyes and a Mudkip knows all... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:40, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:ONOZ THREE WHOLE PEOPLE AND THAT PIRATE THAT'S ALWAYS HANGING AROUND wait a minute I get it now. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:42, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::They're even watching you from my sig... ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:44, 28 June 2010 (BST)

I see what you're doing...Sneaky, sneaky, you.
{{Stalker}} --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:58, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:I shall never let you win Axe Hack I SHALL NEVER LET YOU WIN. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:59, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::While you were distracted, I went ahead and gave me +3. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:04, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:::It's all Diva Zappa's fault! Curse that family. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:05, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::::Heh.  With all that c+p-ing, I expected you to catch up to me sooner or later. >< --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:11, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:::::Actually I now need to go categorise the pages you created since they're actual pages now. I think I have the biggest user category on the wiki. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:14, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::::::I shoulda protected all them talks. :( {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:27, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::Heh.  I'm behind you like honey attracting flies. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:28, 28 June 2010 (BST)

Sorry, bud.  But you're not getting no +1 on my pages. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:39, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:VANDARISMS! MISCONBRITRATIONS! {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:43, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::In my defense, I reserve the right to clear any of my talk pages and redirect them to my regular talk page. =P --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:45, 28 June 2010 (BST)

=Editting protected pages...=

[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAxe_Hack%2FQuiz%2FArchive&diff=1732870&oldid=1112955 To increase link count?] Pretty sure there's precedent for Misconduct for this, Mis. :/ --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:34, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:Oh snap.  I didn't even notice that.  Since it's my page, I say let him off the hook this time. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:38, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::Ah cool, I was just confirming this on your talk. Be careful next time Mis. Think of this as a soft warning.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:39, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:::As for you, Yon.  You were lucky I got distracted by posting my suggestion in Developing...If it wasn't for that, I would have noticed you were redirecting your pages... {{Grr}} --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:43, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::::Hehehehehe.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:44, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:::::I SHALL STOP AT NOTHING AXE HACK. NOTHING. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:12, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::::::By the way, nice advert {{Tongue}}--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:05, 28 June 2010 (BST)

=Copy Rights=

My group is looking to set up a bit of a game room, operating in the groups subpages. We intend to create a few of our own games, as well as adding a few well known ones. Regarding copyrights, would it be okay to use such items, so long as the appropriate citations, and accreditation were given? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 20:39, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:As is my understanding of copyright laws (I used to moderate a third-party game based on one of Hasbro's intellectual properties), it's not about infringing on copyright/intellectual property, but about using those for profit. As long as you aren't doing so then you're protected under various international laws regarding free speech - you're only using the terms as ''words'', not ''products''. I could be wrong but that's how we handled it, especially after a rather nasty letter from a rather slippery lawyer. :( {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:49, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::Well some of the content would be from actual product lines, though it wouldn't be used for profit. I would give appropriate credit,... In fact, if I handle it correctly, it should turn out to be one heck of an advertisement for the various companies involved, though I should mention that it '''would not''' be used as an advertisment,.... nor for profit. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 20:54, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:::Should be grand. Like I say, you're not selling a product with a branded name on it, you're not trading under an assumed copyright, you're golden. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:57, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::::Just wanted to double check. I also looked for a policy on such a thing, and couldn't find one anyplace. Do we have a policy regarding copyrights here? -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 21:00, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:::::Nope. It's not been an issue as far as I know. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:01, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::::::Since it's a possability with my stuff, I'll submit a policy regarding the use of copy righted info, and providing citations, and accreditation. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 21:04, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:::::::Let me know if you want some help. We had a [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Copyrights_Update_1|start]] of one policy, which was prompted by [[UDWiki_talk:Moderation/Policy_Discussion/Citerion_13_-_Speedy_Deletion_of_Copyrighted_Images|my withdrawn policy]]. Perhaps we can even get [[UDWiki:Copyright Project]] started again (the [[UDWiki_talk:Copyright_Project|talk page]] contains some of the start of it). --{{User:Akule/sig}} 21:54, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:::::Ironically, we do have a [[UDWiki:Copyrights|policy on copyrights]], but various previous sysop teams decided that they would ignore it, even though Kevan [[UDWiki_talk:Copyrights|did state that a policy should be hashed out]]. Currently, we are just adding the [[:Template:Copyright|Copyright Template]] to copyrighted images and properly citing them. That way, if Kevan does get a cease and desist complaint (and Kevan has gotten at least two that I know of), it won't include something about how we didn't even cite the proper copyright holder. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 21:54, 28 June 2010 (BST)
::One thing to note, Mis, is that the UDwiki is based in the UK and follows [http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law their copyright laws]. One notable difference is that it is called [http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p27_work_of_others fair dealing] and not fair use. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 21:54, 28 June 2010 (BST)

I actually started a discussion on it, so with Mis's permission, I'd love to move this whole discussion right over to that page. Also, If you could start a new section with everything that was previously set up by you, a link to the Copyright Policy you mentioned, an a copy of the template you mentioned that would be a great tool for this discussion. I'm glad I set this up. Hearing what you've had to say Akule, it sounds like this may have been needed for some time now, but it never really took off. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 22:00, 28 June 2010 (BST)
:My pleasure. I've started talking on it already. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:13, 28 June 2010 (BST)


=Jorm=
Don't forget to accept or decline Jorm on your case... I don't know if you noticed his interest in there. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 04:36, 29 June 2010 (BST)