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Just had to say, I love your wiki name. Especially so since I discovered it when I saw you discussing the Zombie Lexicon, and the first place I heard of Noam Chomsky was when taking a class over Formal Languages. I think I might have also bumped into you in-game recently (either with my MOB alt in the Owsleybank area, or my PKer down in the southwest more), though I can't recall for sure. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:18, 31 May 2010 (BST)
Just had to say, I love your wiki name. Especially so since I discovered it when I saw you discussing the Zombie Lexicon, and the first place I heard of Noam Chomsky was when taking a class over Formal Languages. I think I might have also bumped into you in-game recently (either with my MOB alt in the Owsleybank area, or my PKer down in the southwest more), though I can't recall for sure. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:18, 31 May 2010 (BST)
:Yes, Nome is only tentatively part of Escape, more to see what will happen than anything, and he's currently revived and waiting somewhere safe, ready to bum-rush the border or turn into a red mob and ravage all of Malton. :)  Thanks for the compliment.  I'm a student of Linguistics, and figured it would be fun to have "him" there investigating the change of language. [[User:Nome Chompsgi|Nome Chompsgi]] 03:48, 1 June 2010 (BST)
== Zombie Lexicon ==
Thanks for your willingness to participate in the zombie linguistics project.  Your changes aren't necessarily found in spoken zombese, though - and keep in mind you're not the only one contributing to the articles.  You can't just reshape it because you feel like it. [[User:Nome Chompsgi|Nome Chompsgi]] 15:36, 31 May 2010 (BST)
# A zombie said "Mah zambag brah!" (4 hours and 40 minutes ago)
# A zombie said "HAHAHA" (4 hours and 39 minutes ago)
# A zombie said "Hazzah!" (4 hours and 4 minutes ago)
:Of the four things said to me since my last turn, it should be clear which are clear. The clearest to me is the third, but the second is close. But the intended meaning of the first is illusive. Why is this? Not just because it's a little longer than the rest. Because it's unorthodox. Neither dictionary nor lexicon has any mention of zambags or brahs. True, if we just add sections on possible misspellings of zambah and  something that brah might mean, then sure, listeners could look them up. But is that really our goal? To list every possible translation for words? Sure, it makes translating with the dictionary easy, but it makes learning hard. We should want zombies throughout Malton to use just one zamgrh word for each mangrh one. Why? So that you can just look at it and know what they mean. That's why you so easily understand hazzah. Because there's no Ha-rah (howrah) or Mah-hah (woohoo) for you to bother remembering. But what good is it to exclude even these rare terms? That's just the thing: '''The guides define the language, not vise-versa.''' Without the guides, zamgrh learners would only be able to gather a few words from their usage. Babah, barhah, bra!n, and so on. So these words are already drilled into the collective mind, and should be kept in both guides and thoroughly elaborated on in the lexicon. But obscure things like zarh!ngh, g!a, and znaagah simply should not be. Mrhbanana, mrh, and n!ngah are already well set in the collective vocabulary, and should always be used in their place. Newbs don't know this, and will use the lesser known terms, confusing the pros and forcing them to look them up. This dilutes the language, and degrades it to the level of just another code. Thus, for the sake of making zamgrh easy to learn, we need to keep it uniform and without many synonyms.
:The glory of using a wiki for this is that we needn't discuss every change. I plan to do some editing, and it you think I'm being to [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be_bold|bold]], skim through my edits, and if you feel that I removed the most common term for something, point it out and we'll discuss it. I understand how much effort you've put in, but [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Ownership_of_articles|we're all qualified to edit]], so long as we have some idea what were doing. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 05:39, 2 June 2010 (BST)

Latest revision as of 04:39, 2 June 2010

Duplicate Accounts?

The answer is, yes. I am Daniel Hicken -- but I can't figure out how to change the e-mail address, and since the e-mail address I used was from a former job, and I can't access it anymore (obviously) I can't get the old password, and so I had to create a new login to be able to use this wiki. Any admin that can help me in this problem, please, I'm all ears. Nome Chompsgi 18:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't understand. Do you remember the password of your old account? --Janus talk 19:19, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  1. I remember the name of my old account
  2. I DO NOT remember the password
  3. I do not have access to the e-mail I used for that account, as the company went out of business.

Better? :D Nome Chompsgi 19:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Indeed better ;) Mmh.. I don't think Admins can retrieve your old account's password or change its email. Maybe Kevan can do something, but I'm not sure; you could try asking him on his talk page.. You can put your previous name on your current signature ([[User:Nome Chompsgi|Daniel Hicken]]) but you probably already know it, so I'm not helping. Sorry :| --Janus talk 19:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I'll probably mosey to Kevan's page in the next few days, to see what's possible. Either way, whether I resurrect that account or just move forward with Nome, it'll work out. Thanks! Nome Chompsgi 19:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The name

Just had to say, I love your wiki name. Especially so since I discovered it when I saw you discussing the Zombie Lexicon, and the first place I heard of Noam Chomsky was when taking a class over Formal Languages. I think I might have also bumped into you in-game recently (either with my MOB alt in the Owsleybank area, or my PKer down in the southwest more), though I can't recall for sure. Aichon 23:18, 31 May 2010 (BST)

Yes, Nome is only tentatively part of Escape, more to see what will happen than anything, and he's currently revived and waiting somewhere safe, ready to bum-rush the border or turn into a red mob and ravage all of Malton. :) Thanks for the compliment. I'm a student of Linguistics, and figured it would be fun to have "him" there investigating the change of language. Nome Chompsgi 03:48, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Zombie Lexicon

Thanks for your willingness to participate in the zombie linguistics project. Your changes aren't necessarily found in spoken zombese, though - and keep in mind you're not the only one contributing to the articles. You can't just reshape it because you feel like it. Nome Chompsgi 15:36, 31 May 2010 (BST)

  1. A zombie said "Mah zambag brah!" (4 hours and 40 minutes ago)
  2. A zombie said "HAHAHA" (4 hours and 39 minutes ago)
  3. A zombie said "Hazzah!" (4 hours and 4 minutes ago)
Of the four things said to me since my last turn, it should be clear which are clear. The clearest to me is the third, but the second is close. But the intended meaning of the first is illusive. Why is this? Not just because it's a little longer than the rest. Because it's unorthodox. Neither dictionary nor lexicon has any mention of zambags or brahs. True, if we just add sections on possible misspellings of zambah and something that brah might mean, then sure, listeners could look them up. But is that really our goal? To list every possible translation for words? Sure, it makes translating with the dictionary easy, but it makes learning hard. We should want zombies throughout Malton to use just one zamgrh word for each mangrh one. Why? So that you can just look at it and know what they mean. That's why you so easily understand hazzah. Because there's no Ha-rah (howrah) or Mah-hah (woohoo) for you to bother remembering. But what good is it to exclude even these rare terms? That's just the thing: The guides define the language, not vise-versa. Without the guides, zamgrh learners would only be able to gather a few words from their usage. Babah, barhah, bra!n, and so on. So these words are already drilled into the collective mind, and should be kept in both guides and thoroughly elaborated on in the lexicon. But obscure things like zarh!ngh, g!a, and znaagah simply should not be. Mrhbanana, mrh, and n!ngah are already well set in the collective vocabulary, and should always be used in their place. Newbs don't know this, and will use the lesser known terms, confusing the pros and forcing them to look them up. This dilutes the language, and degrades it to the level of just another code. Thus, for the sake of making zamgrh easy to learn, we need to keep it uniform and without many synonyms.
The glory of using a wiki for this is that we needn't discuss every change. I plan to do some editing, and it you think I'm being to bold, skim through my edits, and if you feel that I removed the most common term for something, point it out and we'll discuss it. I understand how much effort you've put in, but we're all qualified to edit, so long as we have some idea what were doing. --VVV RPMBG 05:39, 2 June 2010 (BST)