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| ''All general, Talk pagey kind of stuff goes here. Please use a Level 3 header (three equal signs) for new topics. Thanks, the "management".''
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| ===Ronin Gallery Template?===
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| Someone needs to make one! How can I, as an upstanding (or not-so-upstanding) UD wiki denizen, properly advertise and support anything without a template!?? --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 17:32, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| ===Grandfathering of screenshots, please?===
| | ''The Ronin Gallery now has its own forum for general discussion, etc., which can be found [http://xiii-ud.proboards85.com/index.cgi?board=roningallery here]. '' |
| "Screenshots will not be accepted as evidence due to difficulty cross-referencing for duplicates."
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| Because I don't have an iwitness of LSvlad killing those three zambahz in a row. :( And that one ''really'' deserves to be recorded for posterity. --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 20:45, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| :LSvlad was accepted, so screen caps ''have'' been grandfathered in, my friend. But it was exactly that really confusing batch of looong reports that made me say, "screw screen caps". See, with Iwitness I can just do a text search... With Iwitness I can pull up profile information with a click... I can cut and paste all the location text, etc. directly from the screenshot into the report. It's just so much more convienent and simple... Iwitness is also VERY easy to use. Just install the bookmarklet, and an Iwitness is 2 clicks away from any UD screen.
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| :That being said... unofficially, I suppose I may allow "special dispensions" for screen caps, if it's all you've got. **le sigh** But I really do prefer Iwitnesses.
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| | I logged in at work (hey, it was quiet...) via a proxy, and noticed a truly heroic act of Roninism in Roftwood - three zeds killed, and one (myself) pretty badly damaged. As it was a proxy, iWitness wouldn't work, but I took a screenie, as accomplishments like this truly deserve some kind of recognition. Are screenshots acceptable proof? I seem to remember a discussion on this, but I can't seem to find it, despite looking for almost ten whole seconds. --[[User:Target Practice|Target Practice]] 12:30, 5 October 2008 (BST) |
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| :Thx, the MGMT. '';P'' --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 00:09, 21 September 2008 (BST)
| | ===Ronin Gallery Template?=== |
| ::Ah, I just changed the "rule"... I can do that, eh? '';P'' --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 00:13, 21 September 2008 (BST)
| | Someone needs to make one! How can I, as an upstanding (or not-so-upstanding) UD wiki denizen, properly advertise and support anything without a template!?? --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 17:32, 19 September 2008 (BST) |
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| Instead of assigning a full Ronin point for people attempting to kill a zombie outside, you could specify a secondary class of trenchy like Ronin in Training or Wannabe Ronin.--[[User:William Told|William Told]] 21:02, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| :I do not like the idea of different classes or categories of Ronin. Overcomplicates it all, and I want it simple. As it is now, it's as simple as it can possibly get. It also parallels the Rogues Gallery, who don't accept assaults -- and whose methodology this list in '''no way, shape or form''' is either emulating, or satirising. NEVAR!
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| :I was thinking maybe a half-point for an assist, though? Or, just like in hockey or football (aka soccer), a seperate column for "goals" (i.e., kills) and assists? I'm not sure.... and in any event, it won't be implemented until the beginning of the next "recording cycle"... What I mean by that is that the lists will get archived and we'll start from scratch either monthly or bi-monthly or quarterly... depending on how big the list gets... That was the basic idea I had in mind, and that's why I've titled the current list September 2008. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 00:20, 21 September 2008 (BST)
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| ::I like the "half point for assists" idea. --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 00:28, 21 September 2008 (BST)
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| You know what? This list is already big enough, and time-consuming enough to maintain, as it is... that adding the extra pain in the arse of recording "half-kills" etc. would just be too much, I think. However, please do feel free to add "assist mentions" in the Comments cells... Sorry... --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 19:44, 24 September 2008 (BST)
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| Sure, killing zombies in the street is a fast way to get XP... And level 6 is not a full grown up... But, once you hit level 5 or 6 you are a totally viable survivor and therefore''not'' a babah, not by any stretch of the imagination. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 23:57, 20 September 2008 (BST) | | Sure, killing zombies in the street is a fast way to get XP... And level 6 is not a full grown up... But, once you hit level 5 or 6 you are a totally viable survivor and therefore''not'' a babah, not by any stretch of the imagination. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 23:57, 20 September 2008 (BST) |
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| ===wtf NOT ronin???!?!?!!!1elves===
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| Killing zombies ''inside'' st. ninian's?!?????????
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| be these truly the end days? ;P --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 09:32, 23 September 2008 (BST)
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| : Surely the second coming is at hand!
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| :...actually, I think I'll save my doomsday hysteria for when someone from the BAR kills a zombie inside. Or ''cades'' the place, saints preserve us. And kudos to [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1354226 phibunsongkram] -- only a level 2 survivor (err...technically level 3?), and already killing zambahz inside. --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 06:11, 24 September 2008 (BST)
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| ::I killed this poor sod just a few minutes ago in St. Ninnie's: http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1359576 ... He was actually <i>'''actively cading during a siege!!!'''</i>... wtf CENTAURIONZ!>>>!>!>!!!>!> I almost feel bad for him... But he just wasn't fast enough... '';P'' --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 06:16, 24 September 2008 (BST)
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| ::Oh... isn't it ironic... the babahz are cading and clearing... while the level 41s (or 22s...)? Hmmmmmnnnn... --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 06:17, 24 September 2008 (BST)
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| :::Indeed. And what's more -- the DEM, the group people are always ragging on for not having the smartest gameplay -- seems to ''definitely'' comes out on top in all this. NOT ONLY do we not have a single record of them shooting zombies outside...we have a record of them CADING during a seige. I may have to reconsider that whole revolution gig and rethink my life, in all honesty. :( --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 06:21, 24 September 2008 (BST)
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| ::::Ahem* Boo-ya. That is all.--[[User:William Told|William Told]] 07:32, 24 September 2008 (BST)
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| :::::Let go of your conscious self, and the petty in-fightings of the old flesh. Embrace the joyful unity the New Flesh, follow the path of zombiesexvoodoodeath... It is your destiny. Search your feelings, Jen. You know this to be true. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 19:52, 24 September 2008 (BST)
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| ''<b>Nota bene:</b> I will no longer accept raw screenshots as evidence. For numerous reasons, they're just too big a pain in the bum. Feel free to include them, but only Iwitnesses will be "official". Thanks for your understanding and ever-unquestioning compliance -- the MGMT.''
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| ===Zombie Ronin?===
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| Hmm... [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1040454 KoronofHearts] of the [[DHPD]] [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/09-22-08_2300hrs_PUBLIC/OUT_21-28_Ronin_458-790-44c.html killed] a zombie in the streets while zombified. He clearly didn't need the XP, as he has over 500 to spare and is level 40. I don't know if you intend to do anything with this, but do what you will. (A Giant Percocet has already been added) --[[User:William Told#Helgi Hundingsbane|Helgi Hundingsbane]] 18:20, 22 September 2008 (GMT-5)
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| :This list is for survivors killing zombies in the street. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 06:38, 24 September 2008 (BST)
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| ===Lots of Ronin===
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| I am sick of these damn [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1138577 trenchies] not dying. [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/09-21-08_1900hrs_PUBLIC/OUT_21-28_Ronin_f44-ae3-c16.html Seriously]. --[[User:William Told#Helgi Hundingsbane|Helgi Hundingsbane]] 19:35, 21 September 2008 (BST)
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| : ...I look forward to feasting on [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=818706 A Giant Percocet] and [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=825997 MichaelHavens] after [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/09-22-08_0000hrs_PUBLIC/OUT_21-28_Ronin_18a-3d8-189.html their crimes]. --[[User:William Told#Helgi Hundingsbane|Helgi Hundingsbane]] 20:05, 21 September 2008 (GMT-5)
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| ::sigh* [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1180605 kikmeballs] and [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1262845 Sgt Gaz]: [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/09-22-08_0300hrs_PUBLIC/OUT_21-28_Ronin_8e0-05e-c20.html Proof.] --[[User:William Told#Helgi Hundingsbane|Helgi Hundingsbane]] 22:40, 21 September 2008 (GMT-5)
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| '''ADDED''' - The ACC is starting to give the BAR a run for its money... --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 04:17, 22 September 2008 (BST)
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| ===A Giant Percocet===
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| [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=818706 A Giant Percocet] (Lv 41) [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/09-19-08_2100hrs_PUBLIC/OUT_21-28_Ronin_Report_00c-0c4-27d.html killed] a zombie in cold blood outside an NT that was under siege... because that's how you win sieges. --[[User:William Told#Helgi Hundingsbane|Helgi Hundingsbane]] 21:53, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| :Actually...it looks like they killed THREE. (Unless iwitness is being goofy). --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 22:17, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| '''ADDED''' (err...unless I wasn't supposed to...) --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 01:28, 20 September 2008 (BST)
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| :Looks like a griefer of some sort. Probably one of those amazingly mature and COOL Goons or something. And, I have problem you adding entries... Thanks. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 02:30, 20 September 2008 (BST)
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| ::That should read: "I have '''no''' problem with you adding entries. Fucking typos. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 00:34, 21 September 2008 (BST)
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| [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1206374 Michael Hickenbottom] [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/09-19-08_2100hrs_PUBLIC/OUT_15-64_Ronin_Report_e07-a56-005.html killed] killed an unarmed pedestrian before assaulting me in front of Bulford Auto Repair, which now stands in ruins because he didn't spend that AP building barricades.--[[User:William Told#Ian McCootchy|Ian McCootchy]] 21:39, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| '''ADDED''' --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 01:28, 20 September 2008 (BST)
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| ===A cat named Joe===
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| I stopped to rest from traveling, and was headshotted in the street. *sniffles* [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1310074 Profile] Evidence: [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/09-08-08_1400hrs_PRIVATE/OUT_29-69__f0c-814-5dd.html iWitness]
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| --[[User:Fifth Element|Fifth Element]] 14:22, 8 September 2008 (BST)''ADDED''
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| [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1293763 Murderknob] headshotted my survivor alt outside while waiting for a revive. [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/09-10-08_1400hrs_PRIVATE/OUT_77-35__dac-97a-d6c.html iWitness] --[[User:Fifth Element|Fifth Element]] 15:23, 10 September 2008 (BST)
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| :Thank you for your submission; however, <b>''XIII''</b> does not endorse "organised revification". In fact, we consider it a blasphemy against the New Flesh and sometimes disrupt such abominations ourselves. This fact will be reflected on the "Rules" list promptly. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 15:35, 11 September 2008 (BST)
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| '''REJECTED''' --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 03:49, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1343355 Ewan Ewaner] [http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roninhv2.jpg axed me] while I was innocently mauling civilians. It's a shame you won't add all those other ronin who helped out.-- [[User:William Told #Ian McCootchy|Ian McCootchy]] 13:23, 17 September 2008 (GMT-5)
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| :eeep! they will all get assists, though. ;P unless it's an RP (i'll look soon) i'll accept this report, but could you possibly use iWitness in the future? it's an awesomely useful tool in any event and i recommend everyone use it! anyway, thank you for doing your part to add MOAR RONIN to the scroll of historosity, ''GRAAAGH!'' :P --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 19:04, 17 September 2008 (BST)
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| :Ooooooh... Rejected -- because the assailant is only level 2... and it looks like he was only level 1 when he killed you! If he were even up at level 4 or 5, I'd accept it, but not a level 1-2. Sorry... Now, I wish I'd implemented a system for the other people who assaulted you, then it wouldn't seem like such a waste... Ideas on how to make that kind of thing work are welcome... maybe a 1/2 point for assaults? i dunno... --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 19:09, 17 September 2008 (BST)
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| Does he cade the hospital? NO! He shoots a zambah outside! And he's level 22, for crying out loud. And come on -- this is the Dulston area. If he was dying to shoot something, it's not like it's hard to find zombies ''inside'' around those parts. [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1254580 Profile] and [http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roninfx6.png Screenshot] (using a non-iwit equipped computer). --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 19:42, 17 September 2008 (BST)
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| And another one. No wonder Dulston can't get back on its feet. If organized groups like the BAR do stuff like this, what hope do unaffiliated survivors have? [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1067166 Profile] and [http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snorkelkrunthb1.png Screenshot].--[[User:Jen|Jen]] 19:56, 17 September 2008 (BST)
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| *<s>[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1047849 Hackslide] - Imperium, level 41
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| *[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1285078 Roofio00] - only level 12, unaffiliated. I have more sympathy for him.
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| *[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=412920 LSvlad] - another BAR. Level 33. Three zombies in a row!
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| *[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=652420 Lt David Caruso] - level 22, unaffiliated.</s>
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| :Svlad has set a new record! First time EVAR We've caught someone killing '''THREE''' zambahz! And, yes, Pescoside is setting the B.A.R. quite high -- but can they beat that one hospital in Kempsterbank with 12 kills in less than 2 days? Soon, I will have to get to work on the ''Pink Katana'' award... Hmmmph. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 05:42, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| ::Well...with the ones I have from yesterday (when my computer starts cooperating again)...it's very possible this NT might best that hospital. Do you want me to brave my fear of wiki tables, and add the next batch myself, so you don't have to do so much work? Or do you want to double-check all submissions before they're added?--[[User:Jen|Jen]] 05:45, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| :::It's very easy. Just copy one of the blocks of code, I have them all seperated ... and replace what needs to be replaced in each cell. That's all I do, having already built the table. It'd be great if you could help out, with so many Ronin this is getting time consuming! ;) --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 05:55, 19 September 2008 (BST) For the order they go in, I rank them by points, as you see, and after that just stick 'em at the bottom of whatever point category they fall under, i.e. chronologically, top down. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 05:56, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| ''Le sigh'', your screen cap only shows Lt David Caruso's kill. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 06:12, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| : It does? Now I'm confused...I was sure it showed all of them. :( Let me double-check. :P What am I missing? --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 06:27, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| ::Here! [http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roninrepriserf2.png HIGHLIGHTED!] Is there something wrong with how I took the shot? I see I misspelled LSvlad's name in the report, but the link was right, and other than that, I don't think I did anything wrong. --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 06:33, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| :::I was tired, and I totally missed their names buried in that insane LOOOOOOONG list of stuff. Sorry, and thanks for the highlighted version, that actually REALLY helped. Cheers! --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]]
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| [http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roninivt8.png Screenshot #2] -- '''DUPE''' my friend, you submitted these :P
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| ::I'm sorry... I was tired, and totally couldn't find those names in the LOOOOOOOONG list of actions. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 15:15, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| :::Ah, OK. I suppose I should have checked the list before posting. :) --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 05:47, 19 September 2008 (BST)
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| *<s>[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1304894 PvtSoap] - another unaffiliated level 12. I like his profile: "Lolol kill the zombiezz!" I made a deliberately trenchy character once...maybe he did, too? Yeah, that's the optimist in me.
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| *[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=561938 tommy monahan] - Level 41. What is ''with'' these BAR guys?
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| | ::::No can do. Trencher or not, he just made it to level 5, probably with your kill. If he does it again, though, he'll go on. Besides, we don't count RP killings as they are considered a legitimate strategy by some death cultist group, and we usually only accept iwitness sceenshots as per the rules above.--[[User:William Told|William Told]] 06:10, 9 October 2008 (BST) |
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| And alright, alright! I'll use iwitness from here on out! The school computers don't seem to mind it, so the only catch will be deleting the bookmarklets after every use. --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 05:31, 19 September 2008 (BST)
| | :::Killed by: killergreg, level 41, killed ma zombie!! [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/10-07-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/OUT_97-32_Ronin_Gallery_-_4d9-504-fa4.html THE HORROR] {{User:Risen_Jihad/sig}} 20:36, 7 October 2008 (BST) |
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General Discussion
All general, Talk pagey kind of stuff goes here. Please use a Level 3 header (three equal signs) for new topics.
The Ronin Gallery now has its own forum for general discussion, etc., which can be found here.
An archive of this Talk page can be found here.
Please try to keep all posts in this section to subjects of an "administrative" nature. Thanks.
Screenshots?
I logged in at work (hey, it was quiet...) via a proxy, and noticed a truly heroic act of Roninism in Roftwood - three zeds killed, and one (myself) pretty badly damaged. As it was a proxy, iWitness wouldn't work, but I took a screenie, as accomplishments like this truly deserve some kind of recognition. Are screenshots acceptable proof? I seem to remember a discussion on this, but I can't seem to find it, despite looking for almost ten whole seconds. --Target Practice 12:30, 5 October 2008 (BST)
Ronin Gallery Template?
Someone needs to make one! How can I, as an upstanding (or not-so-upstanding) UD wiki denizen, properly advertise and support anything without a template!?? --Jen 17:32, 19 September 2008 (BST)
Regarding the definition of "babah" harmanz
- I think I'll just copy what I wrote to Jen about this... And explain why I usually do not consider level 5's babahz ... and why under no circumstances I consider a character with 6 harman skills to be a babah.'
Graaaagh... I don't wanna bicker with you... But, here's my logic in response to this: "Wan says that level 6 =/= babah, and that these guys have no excuse." Ok... Here's the thing... Normally people's 2nd or 3rd skill is going to be Free Running, right? And, if they have half a brain, one of the first 3 skills they get will be Diagnosis. So... Let's look at a generic, reasonably intelligent build for a level 5 survivor...Skills are not necessarily in the order you'd buy them...
- Free Running - duh.
- Diagnosis - excellent XP farming skill
- Construction - if you're not a totally selfish jerk, you buy this skill ASAP.
- Shopping - because malls rawk, even without the Bargain Hunting bonus.
- Any XP farming skill of your choice... DNA scanning is cool, so is "missing with an axe", or even beginning to get some Firearms skills.
So... here we have a Level 5 character with two different ways to farm XP, access to reasonable search success rates in the mall, plus they have Free Running and a skill that makes them useful to other survivors, i.e. Construction. This is a fully viable character and no longer a babah -- an adolscent, yes, a babah, no chance. And, you could be even a bit more XP-hoggish and forgo Construction or even Shopping (and stick with PDs, or perhaps just use an axe) or hell Diagnosis if you're a real trenchcoater... and get one or two or three(!) more combat skills. Therefore by level 5 are a probably a "young adult", by level 6 most certainly you are.
Sure, killing zombies in the street is a fast way to get XP... And level 6 is not a full grown up... But, once you hit level 5 or 6 you are a totally viable survivor and thereforenot a babah, not by any stretch of the imagination. --WanYao 23:57, 20 September 2008 (BST)
The Ronin Reporting "Thread"
Submit your reports below.
Please place most recent at the TOP, for ease of navigation, and use a Level Three header (three equal signs) for each submission. When reporting, please include all the information we need to easily add your ronin to the Scrolls of Shame, i.e. profile link, iWitness, etc. Also, please sign and timestamp your reports.
The reports submitted below will (eventually) be deleted to save space, etc..
- Killed by Lollington, level 5 (i know... but he's clearly a trencher in his skill set), http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1364782, . killed me while i was waiting for a revive. - tylerisfat 07:01, 8 October 2008 (BST)
- No can do. Trencher or not, he just made it to level 5, probably with your kill. If he does it again, though, he'll go on. Besides, we don't count RP killings as they are considered a legitimate strategy by some death cultist group, and we usually only accept iwitness sceenshots as per the rules above.--William Told 06:10, 9 October 2008 (BST)
- Killed by: killergreg, level 41, killed ma zombie!! THE HORROR RisenJihad MEMS DORIS 20:36, 7 October 2008 (BST)
- Added. --William Told 06:10, 9 October 2008 (BST)
