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| |align=center|<big>Use the '+' tab at the top in order to create a new talk section at the bottom. If I've come to you, let's keep the conversation there, if you're coming to me, I'll be replying here.</big>
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| | == EMR BOT == |
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| | Is the bot still alive? I've been updating some of the talk pages. Please respond. --[[User:Gmoney|Gmoney]] 09:04, 25 February 2012 (UTC) |
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| | Hey, how do you make user boxes? --[[User:Suburb 22 Zombies|Suburb 22 Zombies]] 03:37, 17 April 2011 (BST) |
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| | Does it need to be case sensitive? Lots of people tend to make the first letter upper-case. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:30, 26 April 2011 (BST) |
| | :I made a change so that whichever case is used during the update, it is converted to lower case for the purpose of {{tl|Mall Logo}}. See [[User:DangerReport/Bale Mall]] and [[Bale Mall]]. The former has upper case Ruined, yet the Bal Mall logo is the correct logo (ruined). ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:57, 26 April 2011</sub> |
| | ::Gotcha. So it converts all of the text to be lowercase. Nice. :D --{{User:Akule/sig}} 01:06, 26 April 2011 (BST) |
| | :::Yeah it converts the result of {{tl|DRstatus}} to lower case. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:16, 26 April 2011</sub> |
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| | Oh god. This makes things ''worse''! {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:40, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :The wiki update, I take it? --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:47, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | ::Accepting uppercase input. Basically breaks a dozen other templates if it's used. But it's hardly world-endingly bad. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:50, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :::It makes for some unusual problems, as people can make variant group names just by altering case. Such as [[The dead]] or [[the dead]] or [[tHe Dead]] or [[the DEad]] (the actual group is [[The Dead]] or [[the Dead]]). --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:01, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
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| | Nonono. I mean accepting "Ruined" v "ruined" in the template. Long story short, probably all the templates in [[:Category:DangerReport Formatting Templates|this category]] would also need this fix which honestly is more effort for maintenance than users just getting it right. |
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| | I didn't mean anything regarding the wiki update. Names have always been case sensitive as I recall, so that's nothing new. (The automatic redirect regardless of the first letters case was also there before) {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:06, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :I pointed the problem out to people, so Vapor formatted the base template to [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template%3ABuildingStatus&action=historysubmit&diff=1881400&oldid=1527038 automatically lowercase the status]. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:21, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
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| | ::Yes, I realise that the BuildingStatus & Mall Logo templates now accept uppercase input. I am saying this is a ''bad'' thing. |
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| | ::It breaks all those other templates which use the status variable, but didn't get changed. Plus since the uppercase input now "works" on the report template, people use it without realising it causes other breakages. |
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| | ::I'm saying it's less effort for user to just correct it if they do it wrong (which they'd notice with a broken image link) then to apply the lowercase logic on all templates that access the status in some way. |
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| Maybe we could get some sort of project going? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:16, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
| | ::Take a gander at [[Special:Wantedtemplates]], you'll notice several templates with an uppercase status being requested, and they don't exist so there'll be derped results somewhere. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:30, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| :That was the general idea, though I'm not entirely sure where to start. I'd like to get something set up so that it gets maximum attention, preferably with a nice block on the main page. Though that's beyond even my generally bold editing of things, and also my user rights of course.
| | :::Ah, gotcha. I didn't realize it caused other breakages. Can we go through the rest of the templates to fix them to make them as derp proof as possible? I only ask because I imagine that the people who will not care about the casing will make more work for those of us who do care in the long run. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:40, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| :I'd be happy to see a project created, but it would need a little time with a few users helping out to set everything up properly, and then a big intrusion onto the main page and general wikispace to try and get the community ball rolling. I wouldn't want to waste my own effort, and especially other user's, setting it up only to have nothing happen. [[Project CP]] was a good idea, but CP being the generally deserted area that it was, and the lack of any mission to get people involved again means that the community portal continues to be a generally deserted area. I'm aiming for all or nothing here, and nothing isn't an option. As a reasonably active but almost all behind-the-scenes user, I'm not that well known or particularly influential. Yet here I am, with a backwater sandpit page, pondering nothing less than one of the biggest shake ups in the wiki in recent times. You can see my predicament and general pessimism at this working by now, I hope. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 00:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | | ::::Well... if it really matters in the long run... then yeah. I'll get around to it. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:52, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| ::Wiki news could help with visibility, but it can only be up there so long. Something large and noticeable would be great, but I don't know where that would fit into the main page. Speaking of the main page, it could probably do with a redesign. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | | :::::Whenever you can is fine. I had just originally brought it up as various users (mainly new ones) kept breaking the various status templates when [[The Dead 2.0]] swept over the land. I didn't want to end up changing them, as I don't have a strong understanding of wikicode. Thank you in advance. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:59, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| :::Yeah, I'm kinda thinking of a new entity entirely. A nice, permanent, fixture on the main page. Highlighting all the interesting stuff happening. Like I note on my list, maybe an article of the week and/or article in need of help of the week. Wiki news would be a section of it, and the 'Community Portal' (or something else if renamed) would be the general one-stop shop for finding out which wiki-maintenance projects are going on, what ideas people are proposing for new pages, and for getting help in getting pages updated more. It would also be the place to suggest big changes on the wiki, because I envisage it as being a place where users will check a lot. An entry in the wikinews if the project starts would suffice in trying to attract a few users. The first thing we could attack would be a redesign of the main page, to include whatever 'Community Portal' block we'd like, and whatever other changes people might be after. (I'm guessing you have some to suggest, since you mentioned it) Once done, the main page gets updated, and the general invasion of the wiki starts. I'm really am talking about a big attempt to get a proper community spot set up, no half measures. I am probably being somewhat insane. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 01:08, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | |
| ::::I have a few ideas for a new main page and how to set things up. I'm thinking Urban Dead themed with the colours and style and all, something different from the common Wikipedia-like look to main pages. I'll be gone for the weekend however, so don't expect anything yet. :O --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | |
| ::When you guys get the ball rolling, you can count me in. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 06:56, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Sure thing Maverick. Anyway, Gnome I did a little test and found there was 821x550 room on the page in IE, fullscreen for the most common res of 1024x768. Obviously you can have more than 550 height, but that's gonna be in the scroll down region for most people. So if you design it with that in mind, you'll probably be able to get a page that makes the most of the space without too big a cramp. The current version does have some obvious points for improvement, like the 95% width of tables could be 100%, the wiki already gives a margin, no need for extra. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 14:22, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ===Main Page Redesign=== | | == EMRs == |
| [[User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sandbox3|I started it]], but I don't like rounded borders. Annoying to code, looks fugly etc. It's at a rough outline right now.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :The rounded corners can go, as an IE user I can't even see them. All the pages here seem fine without them and all the places I've see the code I can't imagine actually add much since the page looks fine anyway. The other places I've see it are coder idiocy because they wanted 'teh kool korners' and didn't think about if it was actually a smart idea. Your page looks fine to me without them, and probably better than with since everything tessellates nicely. Also, it matches the UD style better. Coding wise, three things jump out off the bat.
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| :*You can lose the br clear bit I think, just leave a gap. It seems to work fine and also allows there to be a nice gap.
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| :*Border wise, I'm pretty sure there's a way to compact the code that might be applicable here. I think it goes something like "border-something: 10 3 10 3;" where each number relates to each border, revolving clockwise from left I think. Might also be possible for padding.
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| :*Drop the divs, it doesn't allow you to set spacing between the two sections properly. Nested tables are probably nastier to code by can give the correct result.
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| :{{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 13:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ::I'm good with tables, oddly. Updated.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Well that took care of all the points I had pretty neatly, didn't it? I like it very much. I made a couple of minor fixes. (Well one, the v-align for news, in case the CP bit is ever taller, otherwise little). May I also congratulate you on some wonderfully obfuscated code at the bottom, that's brilliantly evil. Onto the more subjective stuff:
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| :::*Do you think it's worth keeping the current header, that shows the latest game update and the logo? I don't think it's worth repeating what the main site says for its header anyway, but I feel the page is lacking a focus point at the top...maybe just inserting the logo in the top left of the introductory text box?
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| :::*What other links are you planning to include? I don't think we need the same amount of insane links as now, but there's room for a few more. I think keeping a few of the important map/information centre links would be good. [[Suburb]] definitely, maybe also the [[MIC]]/[[MPM]] and [[NIC]]/[[NT Status Map]]. I prefer the maps, but the IC's are good too.
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| :::What do you plan on transcluding? I assume the CP and news sections, anything else? Finally, any thoughts on what to stick in the CP bit as a place holder until it's decided what we should actually have there? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 20:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::Updated the top part with <font face="cracked">Urban Dead</font>, let me know if the cracked font doesn't work or if the alignment looks wonky, we can always switch it for an image. I agree though, less links are needed for the site nav at the bottom. Maybe projects, or community activities should be in the CP section? Things that aren't normally announced in the wiki news section, but deserve a notice. Also, yep CP & Wiki News will be template, that's it though.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:46, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::Yeah, font doesn't work for me, you'd have to stick to something standard anyway, or else use an image. Link wise I've had a thought, if the links tend to be ones that link to the other stuff (IE: Administration links to all the various admin bits, and the BIC links to all the maps and other status information) then you can cut down a lot, while still providing a leap pad to get to places. I agree that current community projects would make a good bit for the CP section, though no doubt that'll be expanded upon somewhat. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::::Image it is then. Think the wiki news section needs little aesthetic boxes like the site navigation section at the bottom?--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::::Sounds good, go for it. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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| '''Gameplay Information''' | | I must admit, I'm quite ashamed of it myself. You ''did'' gave me the EMR Bot before leaving, but I never got the chance to use it, test it, or even learn it for that matter. I've been thinking ''"I must do it, for The Rooster is gone and no one else can"'' for months, but never bothered to run it even once, until the page clogged up and I had to move some old EMRs elsewhere. |
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| | You can find those EMRs, archived from October 29th to November 30th, at my [[User:Kittithaj/Sandbox#EMRP:_Reports_to_Process|Sandbox]] page. Thank you for returning and working with them. And sorry I couldn't/didn't do something with them. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 02:13, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
| *[[Guides:A Beginners Guide to Urban Dead|Info for Beginners]]
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| '''Wiki Information''' | | :Ah no worries, if nothing else you'd kept an immaculate log that would've done the job just fine anyway. I checked your backup and I did process all of those reports so they're safe to nuke. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
| *[[Wiki Questions]]
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| | I posted a question on the [[Talk:EMRP:_Reports_to_Process]] talk page but I'm hoping that you could answer the question since you're controlling the bot. Should all of the "Reports to Process Later" entries be moved to the "Reports to Process" heading? And should the lone report from Feb 28 then be wiped?--[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 03:20, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
| *[http://www.urbandead.com/stats.html Game Stats]
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| *[http://www.urbandead.info/ Iwitness]
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| *[http://profiles.urbandead.net Searchable Profile DB]
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| We could probably do with some obvious in-your-face general starter guide like on what's on the main page now. Feel free to edit the list. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:56, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
| | :I answered the talk page. I'll be messing around with the headers a bit until I catch up. No need to worry, just stick everything under "Later" for now. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
| :I made only a few additions and changes, you basically got everything I would've added. Do you plan on indicating that external links are external? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:17, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Mmm, I don't know. I don't like the little blue box things. I could change the colour of it, maybe. Should it be indicated? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Updated. The site navigation looks nice, but it feels off balanced because of the cities. It could be compensated by adding stuff to the other 3 sections, or moving the cities elsewhere? Would it be a good idea to put the game updates somewhere? Seems silly not to have them, but I'm not sure where to put it. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:58, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::I feel the cities should be included, maybe a mention of them at the end of the intro? "The main city of Urban Dead is [[Malton]], but outbreaks have been seen in the cities of [[Monroeville]] and [[Borehamwood]] too." or something like that? Hmm.
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| ::::External link wise, I've never been a fan of the system either (Though it's the lighter text that annoys me). Normally, I would say you should indicate them as a matter of continuity, but in this case, the only external links are under the aptly named 'External Links' section, and so people should expect them even if the usual symbol isn't there. I think you can get away with it. Also, if you wish to be very pedantic about the section heights, you could add a link to the Community Portal under Wiki Info. Slightly redundant, but it makes everything a nice 6 links tall. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 18:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::Added the latest news section. Other than templating the news sections and CP, all we have left is the Community Portal. I'm not sure what should go there. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::::Maybe just make a small list of active projects until we get something better set up. The Great Suburb Group Massacre is definitely a good example. 'A Tale of Undead Cities' is a reasonably good one. Should probably have one more to fit the rule of three...maybe a quick mention of the UHUB having recently come online? I'm think basically the name and then a quick description (might even be able to use the 'aesthetic tables' like the News and section lists) EG:
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| *[[The Great Suburb Group Massacre]] - To keep the wiki up to date, [[groups]] have been queried as to whether they are still active, you can help out in the maintenance effort. If you're part of an active group, make sure you confirm it as active before the 27th February!
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| *[[A Tale of Undead Cities]] - An organization effort to clean up, improve and revamp the three city pages about [[Malton]], [[Monroeville]] and [[Borehamwood]]. Help discuss ideas and add your own suggestions for improvements.
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| *[[User Hub]] - Recently implemented, the user hub allows you to search for users on the wiki more easily. Bookmark it, and come add your name.
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| Is the tone suitable? Also, you probably want to write something about the user hub, I've made a right hash of that one. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 02:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
| | :: Thanks I appreciate the explanation. --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 07:23, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
| :CP updated. I've been scouring other wikis to see what they do with their main page. I think what we have now is fine and we can always add something later. Other than the templating, does it look good to go?--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | |
| ::Looks fine and dandy to me sir, and it works an utter treat on smaller resolutions too. The only minor things I can spot are:
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| ::*Your edit link for the news has a case error, it should be 'Wiki '''N'''ews' not 'Wiki '''n'''ews'.
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| ::*You need a proper article in the spotlight. Either that and you need a proper description for the example page. Hehe. You could always be a bit cheeky and have: "Main Page - Our main page has just received a really nice redesign, go check it out!". Ok...maybe not.
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| ::Last time the main page was changed, a vote was called on its talk page, is that what you are planning to do? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Hmm, I can't think of anything new or amazing that would go under the spotlight, except perhaps the redesigned [[Suggestions|suggestions portal]]. Perhaps an article needing work? For implementation, I was thinking of sneaking it under the radar through [[A/PT]], may require a few bribes though. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:30, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::We can work on what to include in the CP bit in due course. You could just ditch that bit for now, it'll be back I'm sure. As for a 'sneaking' it through A/PT...that's a joke, right? I'll go up the Drama template to 'wikigate' in preparation... {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::I'm totally serial. But seriously, I suppose a little announcement and some discussion on the talk page couldn't hurt. Yarp?--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::::Indeed. I'll swing by and put down my vote once you've announced your little redesign. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 00:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::::Will do. Something else we might be able to add is that 'coders central' thing, and projects like [[Project Mentor]]. Anyway, deal with that later. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sandbox3|Main Page Redesign V2]]=== | | ==Unused Image== |
| Updated with a white background. Anyways, I've got something going on at the bottom. Few things: the rounded borders can be done with images, the Urban Dead can be an image urban dead themed thing, and the links are just placeholders (the most important stuff will go there). What are you thinking? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
| | [[:File:1001 Days in Urban Dead.gif]] which you uploaded is currently [[Special:Unusedfiles|unused]] and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--[[User:Thegeneralbot|A helpful bot]] 16:45, 14 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :Ironically, including the image is stupid since the wiki thumbnailer breaks horribly. *shrug* {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 12:23, 16 June 2011 (BST) |
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| Is there a page for this anywhere? I noticed you posting on a group's page asking if they were still active, but I didn't see a link to a page for the project. --{{User:Pestolence/Sig}} 20:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
| | You're like a zombie, you know that? You disappear, then for strange reasons you rise and shamble and get active again. I would call it curious were it not for your involvement over the years in a browser-based zombie apocalypse game... ... |
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| :Hmm, I had just followed suit based on some earlier posts. Could go back and link it I suppose, though it's not too much of a worry since all they have to do is respond on their talk page. I'll go back and link when I get the chance. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 20:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
| | It's good to see you again, Rooster. ;) --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 20:43, 16 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| ::OK, cool. Just wondering. --{{User:Pestolence/Sig}} 20:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | | :Thanks :) Although, thinking about it, I didn't play the game much... {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| Can I increase the size of the images so those two white bars above them don't show up? Or, is there another way? --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 16:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
| | Hi! Just wanted to let you know that because the [[User:ExternalMilitaryReportBot|EMRBot]] hasn't been run in over two years, I'm shutting down [[EMRP: Reports to Process]]. New users still sometimes post EMRs there expecting them to be processed, so I've posted a sign at the top letting them know it's not active. If the Bot returns at some point, feel free to remove the sign and restart RtP. Thanks! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 13:59, 30 November 2013 (UTC) |
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| Do you think it would be possible to program a bot to work off the user list and add the welcomenewbie template to all new user talk pages automatically? The template will need altering if this can be done, but I'd thought I'd check with you if it's viable before planning that. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 23:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :It'd definitely help, and it gets rid of the user provided WN spam.--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 23:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
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| '''This section of the conversation was tactically lasered from orbit due to: ''Irrelevance'', later followed by ''juvenile bickering''. Go whine about each other on your own pages, mmmkay? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}}'''
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| :Is there a way to go through the user list and only pick out "newbies", rather than users without talk pages, that may be long abandoned?. Perhaps [[Special:Contributions/newbies]] may be a better page to work on? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 01:44 17 February 2009 (BST)</small>
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| ::Well we know that bots can work from ''current time'' as they can do updates based on time with danger reports, so if we tell the bot to start from X time and give every user that is created after that time a template (with a line of code telling it not to repeat itself of course) we should be fine. The only thing that will need to be done to prevent duplication will be to tell users not to add the template any more, provided the bot is running often enough to cover newbies. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 01:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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| :::[[MediaWiki:Welcomecreation|Already done]], tell users they are adding the template in error as it's duplicating an already existing wiki function, that text I linked appears to all new wiki accounts when they first load a page.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:44, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::While the current text based wall of doom method is pretty high on the insensitivity scale, having an automated script do it really takes the biscuit. Whatever happened to people just leaving a nice message, anyway? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 12:04, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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