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<font face="Agency FB"><font size="4">[[User:Extropymine | <font color="#bbccbb">extropymine]]</font> ~ [[User_talk:Extropymine|<font color="#bbccbb">talk</font>]] ~ [[User:Extropymine/Elizabeth Dement|<font color="#bbccbb">Elizabeth Dement</font>]] ~ [[User:Extropymine/Patrick Dement|<font color="#bbccbb">Patrick Dement</font>]]  ~ [[User:Extropymine/Dillon Miller|<font color="#bbccbb">Dillon Miller</font>]] ~ [[User:Extropymine/sig|<font color="#bbccbb">signature</font>]] ~ [[User:Extropymine/sandpit|<font color="#bbccbb">sandpit</font>]]
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For older stuff, look in the [[User:Extropymine/sandpit/archive | <big>'''Sandpit Archive'''</big>]]
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| style="padding:5px; background-color:#FFFFFF" |<br><center><span style="font-weight: bold; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 260%; color:#4581C0">'''Mobius187 – <font color="#C3C4C6">Man of Science!'''</font></span><br><br></center>
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<center><font color="#FFFFFF">[[User:Mobius187|<font color="#FFFFFF">'''The Man'''</font>]] - [[User:Mobius187/History|<font color="#FFFFFF">'''The Legend'''</font>]] - [[User:Mobius187/Media|<font color="#FFFFFF">'''The Propaganda'''</font>]] - [[User:Mobius187/People|<font color="#FFFFFF">'''The People'''</font>]]
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! bgcolor="#556655" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>Elizabeth Dement</font>
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| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | '''Joined:'''
| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | 12/03/2008
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| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | '''Character Details:'''
| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1420587 Elizabeth Dement]
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| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | '''Current Level:'''
| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | 15
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| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | '''Character Class:'''
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb><big>'''Sandbox'''</big></font>
| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | [[Scientist]]
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb><big>'''Project'''</big></font>
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| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | '''Favorite Equipment:'''
| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | [[User:Extropymine/sandpit/sandbox1 | <big>'''Sandbox 1:'''</big>]]
| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | [[Dna_extractor#DNA_Extractor | "Cliff"]]
| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | Character Bar & Character Sheet
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| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | '''Favorite Weapon:'''
| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | [[User:Extropymine/sandpit/sandbox2  | <big>'''Sandbox 2:'''</big>]]
| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | [[Pistol#Pistol | Pistol]]
| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | NecroWatch Field Guide
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| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | '''Backup Weapon:'''
| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | [[Toolbox#Toolbox| Toolbox]]
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| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | '''Current Status:'''
| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | On NecroWatch assignment
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| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | '''Location:'''
| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | Roaming Southwest Malton
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| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | '''Kills:'''
| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | 3
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| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | '''Revives:'''
| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | 11
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| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | '''Deaths:'''
| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | 6
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| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | '''Group:'''
| bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left" | None
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| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | '''Catch-Phrase:'''
| bgcolor="#bbccbb" align="left" | "Think of the lowbies!"
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! style="color: #445544;" | NecroNet Repairman
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| <small>This user keeps [[NecroNet]] up and running, and is probably off looking for a genny and fuel.</small>
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==XP Study==
While I agree that zombie XP gaining is limited to only a few actions, I also must concede that zombies only ''have'' a few actions. With the exceptions of groaning and shambling around, zombies can potentially gain XP for just about any action they choose to take. That's why most XP suggestions boil down to "make this easier so we gain XP faster" or "give XP for this action that currently gives no XP."
 
I'd be more interested in seeing zombies given ''other'' options of things to do for XP, rather than just provide XP for every possible existing action. People like to say things like "survivors can gain XP 8 ways, and zombies only 3, it's not fair," and that's not an invalid statement. But compare the number of ''possible'' actions both players can make.
 
By my count (and I could be miscounting), survivors have 22 possible ways to spend their AP: Moving, talking, attacking others, dumping bodies, building barricades, repair ruin, install generator/radio, repair generator/radio, destroying generator/radio, destroying barricades, searching, reading, healing, DNA extraction, revivification, tagging, firing flare, transmitting on radio/phone, manufacturing syringe, taking NT scan, consuming beer/wine, refueling a generator. It is possible to gain XP with 9 of these possible actions. 41% of the possible actions survivors can take can gain them XP.
 
Zombies only have 12 possible ways to spend their AP: Moving, talking, groaning, gesturing, attacking others, attacking barricades, ransacking, ruining, destroying decorations, destroying generator/radio, dragging survivors to the street, scent death. It is possible to gain XP from 5 of these actions. 42% of the possible actions zombies can take can gain them XP.
 
So really, it's about the same-- a little less than half the possible actions a player can take are potential XP earners. If we talk about ''common'' actions, then survivors (who fight, barricade, search, and heal-- 50% of which gain XP) have a slight disadvantage compared with zombies (who fight, attack barricades, and groan-- 66% of which gain XP).
 
Again, give zombies more things to do for XP, instead of giving XP for everything they currently do.{{User:Extropymine/sig}} 02:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
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| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''Survivor Actions'''</font>
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''XP?'''</font>
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''Prereq'''</font>
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''Zombie Actions'''</font>
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''XP?'''</font>
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''Prereq'''</font>
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| bgcolor="#bbccbb" |Moving<br>Talking<br>Attacking Others<br>Dumping Bodies<br>Building Barricades<br>Repair Ruin<br>Install Generator/Radio<br>Repair Generator/Radio<br>Destroying Generator/Radio<br>Destroying Barricades<br>Searching<br>Reading<br>Healing<br>DNA Extraction<br>Revivification<br>Tagging<br>Firing Flare<br>Transmitting on Radio/Phone<br>Manufacturing Syringe<br>Taking NT Scan<br>Consuming Beer/Wine<br>Refueling
<big><font color="#bbccbb">'''Who is Liz?'''</font></big>
| bgcolor="#bbccbb" |No<br>No<br>Yes<br>Yes<br>No<br>Yes<br>No<br>Yes<br>No<br>No<br>No<br>Yes<br>Yes<br>Yes<br>Yes<br>Yes<br>No<br>No<br>No<br>No<br>No<br>No
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| bgcolor="#bbccbb" |None<br>None<br>None<br>None<br>Skill<br>Skill; Item<br>Item<br>Skill; Item<br>Item<br>Item<br>None<br>Item<br>Item<br>Skill; Item<br>Skill; Item<br>Skill; Item<br>Item<br>Skill; Item<br>Skill<br>Skill<br>None<br>Item
Liz is in progress, is what she is.<br><br>
| bgcolor="#bbccbb" |Moving<br>Talking<br>Groaning<br>Gesturing<br>Attacking Others<br>Attacking Barricades<br>Ransacking<br>Ruining<br>Destroying Decorations<br>Destroying Generator/Radio<br>Dragging Survivor to the Street<br>Scent Death
 
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| bgcolor="#bbccbb" |None<br>None<br>Skill<br>Skill<br>None<br>None<br>None<br>None<br>None<br>None<br>Skill<br>Skill
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| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''Total'''</font>
<big><font color="#bbccbb">'''Current Status'''</font></big>
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''9/22'''</font>
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''41%'''</font>
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''Total'''</font>
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''5/12'''</font>
| bgcolor="#445544" align=center | <font color=#bbccbb>'''42%'''</font>
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'''Location(s):'''<br>
'''Long-term Goal(s):'''<br><br>
'''FUN FACTS:'''

Latest revision as of 07:52, 31 March 2009

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For older stuff, look in the Sandpit Archive

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XP Study

While I agree that zombie XP gaining is limited to only a few actions, I also must concede that zombies only have a few actions. With the exceptions of groaning and shambling around, zombies can potentially gain XP for just about any action they choose to take. That's why most XP suggestions boil down to "make this easier so we gain XP faster" or "give XP for this action that currently gives no XP."

I'd be more interested in seeing zombies given other options of things to do for XP, rather than just provide XP for every possible existing action. People like to say things like "survivors can gain XP 8 ways, and zombies only 3, it's not fair," and that's not an invalid statement. But compare the number of possible actions both players can make.

By my count (and I could be miscounting), survivors have 22 possible ways to spend their AP: Moving, talking, attacking others, dumping bodies, building barricades, repair ruin, install generator/radio, repair generator/radio, destroying generator/radio, destroying barricades, searching, reading, healing, DNA extraction, revivification, tagging, firing flare, transmitting on radio/phone, manufacturing syringe, taking NT scan, consuming beer/wine, refueling a generator. It is possible to gain XP with 9 of these possible actions. 41% of the possible actions survivors can take can gain them XP.

Zombies only have 12 possible ways to spend their AP: Moving, talking, groaning, gesturing, attacking others, attacking barricades, ransacking, ruining, destroying decorations, destroying generator/radio, dragging survivors to the street, scent death. It is possible to gain XP from 5 of these actions. 42% of the possible actions zombies can take can gain them XP.

So really, it's about the same-- a little less than half the possible actions a player can take are potential XP earners. If we talk about common actions, then survivors (who fight, barricade, search, and heal-- 50% of which gain XP) have a slight disadvantage compared with zombies (who fight, attack barricades, and groan-- 66% of which gain XP).

Again, give zombies more things to do for XP, instead of giving XP for everything they currently do. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 02:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Survivor Actions XP? Prereq Zombie Actions XP? Prereq
Moving
Talking
Attacking Others
Dumping Bodies
Building Barricades
Repair Ruin
Install Generator/Radio
Repair Generator/Radio
Destroying Generator/Radio
Destroying Barricades
Searching
Reading
Healing
DNA Extraction
Revivification
Tagging
Firing Flare
Transmitting on Radio/Phone
Manufacturing Syringe
Taking NT Scan
Consuming Beer/Wine
Refueling
No
No
Yes
Yes
No
Yes
No
Yes
No
No
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
No
No
No
No
No
None
None
None
None
Skill
Skill; Item
Item
Skill; Item
Item
Item
None
Item
Item
Skill; Item
Skill; Item
Skill; Item
Item
Skill; Item
Skill
Skill
None
Item
Moving
Talking
Groaning
Gesturing
Attacking Others
Attacking Barricades
Ransacking
Ruining
Destroying Decorations
Destroying Generator/Radio
Dragging Survivor to the Street
Scent Death
No
No
No
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
No
No
None
None
Skill
Skill
None
None
None
None
None
None
Skill
Skill
Total 9/22 41% Total 5/12 42%