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== elitism ==


[[User_talk:Yonnua_Koponen/Archive| Archive]]
so, from the [[UDWiki:Administration/Sysop_Archives/Boxy/2011-08-29_Bureaucrat_Promotion|late' 2011 crew]], who were the guys you were having problems with ? If you notice in the BP from Dec 2011 you will notice 4 psyops were demoted. --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 21:10, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
:I had problems with most people on the wiki at one time or another. I can't entirely remember, and I don't particularly care any more to be honest. =) --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 21:12, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
:: if we could use the drama from this wiki to fuel power generators, we would have energy enough to power a small city for years --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 21:14, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Truer words never spoken.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 21:17, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
::::What were your thoughts on me? Be honest {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
:::::I recall liking you? Can't remember much, it was 4ish years ago. :p I definitely have a positive impression.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 18:54, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
::::::Woohoo! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 22:52, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


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== Why so old suggestion still around there is ==
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Heya, just an idea for the orphaned stuff. Do you oft check the pages when they are orphan? You could be killing two birds with one stone in some situations, for example, check out the page you just unorphaned: [[Scarletwood Defence Force]]. You could have just had it speedy'd >=D --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 23:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)


== Great Radio Messages ==
Because we have become lazy bums sitting all those years in our bunker, watching the state of the game and of the wiki unravel. Also because none of the suggestions will ever get implemented. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 19:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:I'd say we're actually at peak chance of an implemented suggestion, what with them being specifically flagged in the survey and all. Still not ''likely'', but it's possible.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 22:41, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
I understand your concern. I learned of that problem myself months ago. I decided to cut out some not-so-funny stuffs out (you see, I'm easily amused.) I've been thinking of moving longer series of radio spam to another page for a while now, but I don't have time for it. Necessity will force a change eventually, though. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 17:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::Speaking of the survey, did anyone happen to save a copy, or at least remember the contents? It was only open for a week, so of course I missed it. >_< <span style="border: 1px solid #D4AF37; background-color: #0047AB; <!-- Azure --> color: #D4AF37; <!-- Metallic Gold --> font: 12px 'lucida blackletter','lucida blacklet','lucida handwriting',cursive; text-align: justify;">[[User:Revenant|<span style="color: #D4AF37;">ЯЭV&#8288;€&#8288;NΛИ</span>]][[User talk:Revenant|<span style="color: #D4AF37;">†</span>]]</span> <span style="font-size:xx-small; letter-spacing: -2px; text-shadow: #cc4444 1px 1px 10px">[[File:555Manbabies.gif|You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|link=User:Revenant]][[User:ShaqFu|<span style="color:#FF0018">&#124;</span>]][[User:Katthew|<span style="color:#33DD33">&#124;</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#FF0048">&#124;</span>]][[User:SprCobra|<span style="color:#FF0060">&#124;</span>]][[User:Laughing Man|<span style="color:#FF0078">&#124;</span>]][[User:Revenant|<span style="color:#FF0090">&#124;</span>]][[User:underisk|<span style="color:#FF00A8">&#124;</span>]][[User:I WARNED YOU ABOUT TEMPLATES BRO|<span style="color:#FF00C0">&#124;</span>]][[User:DeRathi|<span style="color:#FF00D8">&#124;</span>]][[User:DerpDerp|<span style="color:#FF00F0">&#124;</span>]][[User:Abd al-Rahim ibn al-Husain al-'Iraqi|<span style="color:#FF00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Sykic|<span style="color:#E700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Vaporware|<span style="color:#CF00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Nubis |<span style="color:#9F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Riseabove|<span style="color:#8700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Teehee McGee |<span style="color:#6F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Anothergenericzombie|<span style="color:#5700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#0048ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Mortimer Wiley|<span style="color:#0044DD">&#124;</span>]][[User:Deadone|<span style="color:#3F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:woland37|<span style="color:#2700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Colbear|<span style="color:#0000dd">&#124;</span>]][[User:Oh no!|<span style="color:#27ff00">&#124;</span>]][[User:Bender Bending Rodriguez|<span style="color:#0F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Gardenator|<span style="color:#808000">&#124;</span>]][[User:ephphatha |<span style="color:#0000ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:SA|<span style="color:#0018ff">&#124;</span>]]</span>  12:34, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
:Thank you, but I better do it myself later. I'm the most frequent updater anyway. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 17:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::It asked if you play Urbandead, how many characters with, what type of play (e.g. zombie/survivor), when you started/stopped playing, what you liked, what you didn't like and then to pick any 10 Peer Reviewed Suggestions you'd like implemented. There might have been more but that was the general gist of it.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 16:10, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Yeah, that was about it. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 01:45, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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::::Interesting. Sankyu! The curiosity monkey can be hell to feed… <span style="border: 1px solid #D4AF37; background-color: #0047AB; <!-- Azure --> color: #D4AF37; <!-- Metallic Gold --> font: 12px 'lucida blackletter','lucida blacklet','lucida handwriting',cursive; text-align: justify;">[[User:Revenant|<span style="color: #D4AF37;">ЯЭV&#8288;€&#8288;NΛИ</span>]][[User talk:Revenant|<span style="color: #D4AF37;">†</span>]]</span> <span style="font-size:xx-small; letter-spacing: -2px; text-shadow: #cc4444 1px 1px 10px">[[File:555Manbabies.gif|You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|link=User:Revenant]][[User:ShaqFu|<span style="color:#FF0018">&#124;</span>]][[User:Katthew|<span style="color:#33DD33">&#124;</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#FF0048">&#124;</span>]][[User:SprCobra|<span style="color:#FF0060">&#124;</span>]][[User:Laughing Man|<span style="color:#FF0078">&#124;</span>]][[User:Revenant|<span style="color:#FF0090">&#124;</span>]][[User:underisk|<span style="color:#FF00A8">&#124;</span>]][[User:I WARNED YOU ABOUT TEMPLATES BRO|<span style="color:#FF00C0">&#124;</span>]][[User:DeRathi|<span style="color:#FF00D8">&#124;</span>]][[User:DerpDerp|<span style="color:#FF00F0">&#124;</span>]][[User:Abd al-Rahim ibn al-Husain al-'Iraqi|<span style="color:#FF00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Sykic|<span style="color:#E700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Vaporware|<span style="color:#CF00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Nubis |<span style="color:#9F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Riseabove|<span style="color:#8700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Teehee McGee |<span style="color:#6F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Anothergenericzombie|<span style="color:#5700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#0048ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Mortimer Wiley|<span style="color:#0044DD">&#124;</span>]][[User:Deadone|<span style="color:#3F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:woland37|<span style="color:#2700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Colbear|<span style="color:#0000dd">&#124;</span>]][[User:Oh no!|<span style="color:#27ff00">&#124;</span>]][[User:Bender Bending Rodriguez|<span style="color:#0F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Gardenator|<span style="color:#808000">&#124;</span>]][[User:ephphatha |<span style="color:#0000ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:SA|<span style="color:#0018ff">&#124;</span>]]</span> 12:44, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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== Re:Redirect ==
 
Meant the main page. I've been doing the same for all the map talk pages. But thanks anyway, man. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:26, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 
== The art of the Demerge ==
 
Demerging pages in concept is simple; first, you divert as many incoming links as possible, then transfer the information to the individual pages. Of course, this is all pretty obvious, and not what you were looking for.
 
Anyways, I try to follow a process when doing this:
#Open the page you want to demerge.
#Open another tab to the "what links here" page. This will be your main work page.
#Type the page name in the "find" field (ctrl+f) and go down the links list, finding and removing any incoming links.
#*Example: you find a link to <nowiki>[[Suburb Schools#Apple School|Apple School]]</nowiki>. Shorten it to <nowiki>[[Apple School]]</nowiki>
#*Be careful when shortening; if the page's name is <nowiki>[[Suburb Schools#Apple School (Suburb)|Apple School]]</nowiki> and you reduce it to <nowiki>[[Apple School]]</nowiki>, you'll create a red link or disambiguation link- it must be named <nowiki>[[Apple School (Suburb)|Apple School]]</nowiki>. This is mainly a problem for multi-location names, coordinate locations,  and those with "St/St." in them. If you are in doubt, just drop the "Suburb Schools#" piece.
#*Some links are written with underscores (like_this) instead of spaces. If a location is still showing up on the "what links here" list after de-linking, try replacing some of the spaces in your find field with underscores.
#there is not much you can do about user page or protected pages. If it's a matter of redirecting a link to an individual location then that's fine, but links referencing the page's creation/existence/deletion are best left alone or unlinked (In these cases I'll either leave it as a red link or replace the brackets with '''bold text''').
 
Once you have corrected all redirects and links, it is time to move onto the actual demerge.
#Click on one of the locations on the "What links here list".
#Copy the locationblock and information about the building from the merged page to the individual.
# Replace <nowiki>{{Locationblockmerge|</nowiki> with:
#:<nowiki>{{Locationblock|</nowiki><br>
#:<nowiki>location_type=Locationtypehere|</nowiki>
#Add a lv. 3 header (<nowiki>===header===</nowiki>) for Description, History, Barricade Plan, and Current Events if necessary.
#Put the following categories on the bottom of the page (don't use the stub template if the page is somehow acceptable):
#:<nowiki><br style="clear: both" /></nowiki>
#:<nowiki>----</nowiki>
#:<nowiki>{{locations-stub}}</nowiki>
#:<nowiki>[[Category:Building Type]]</nowiki>
#:<nowiki>[[Category:Suburb]]</nowiki>
#Tidy up any leftover junk and move onto the next location.
#Once you are done, the "what links here" page should only have a few User: or administrative pages left, if anything. Put the merged location page and any extraneous redirects up on [[A/SD]] and move on.
 
While most people aim at taking these on suburb by suburb, I've found that demerging by location type involves fewer variables. I recommend you find or create a page (like I did [[User:Red Hawk One/Sandbox|here]]) to store some of the common coding, as this can get extremely repetitive.
 
Good luck! You'll need it.
--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 23:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

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elitism

so, from the late' 2011 crew, who were the guys you were having problems with ? If you notice in the BP from Dec 2011 you will notice 4 psyops were demoted. --hagnat 21:10, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I had problems with most people on the wiki at one time or another. I can't entirely remember, and I don't particularly care any more to be honest. =) --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:12, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
if we could use the drama from this wiki to fuel power generators, we would have energy enough to power a small city for years --hagnat 21:14, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Truer words never spoken.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:17, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
What were your thoughts on me? Be honest A ZOMBIE ANT 03:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
I recall liking you? Can't remember much, it was 4ish years ago. :p I definitely have a positive impression.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:54, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Woohoo! A ZOMBIE ANT 22:52, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Why so old suggestion still around there is

Because we have become lazy bums sitting all those years in our bunker, watching the state of the game and of the wiki unravel. Also because none of the suggestions will ever get implemented. -- Spiderzed 19:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

I'd say we're actually at peak chance of an implemented suggestion, what with them being specifically flagged in the survey and all. Still not likely, but it's possible.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:41, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Speaking of the survey, did anyone happen to save a copy, or at least remember the contents? It was only open for a week, so of course I missed it. >_< ЯЭV⁠€⁠NΛИ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 12:34, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
It asked if you play Urbandead, how many characters with, what type of play (e.g. zombie/survivor), when you started/stopped playing, what you liked, what you didn't like and then to pick any 10 Peer Reviewed Suggestions you'd like implemented. There might have been more but that was the general gist of it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:10, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, that was about it. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:45, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Interesting. Sankyu! The curiosity monkey can be hell to feed… ЯЭV⁠€⁠NΛИ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 12:44, 11 September 2015 (UTC)