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| [[User_talk:Yonnua_Koponen/Archive|<font color="SteelBlue">Archive</font>]] | | so, from the [[UDWiki:Administration/Sysop_Archives/Boxy/2011-08-29_Bureaucrat_Promotion|late' 2011 crew]], who were the guys you were having problems with ? If you notice in the BP from Dec 2011 you will notice 4 psyops were demoted. --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 21:10, 3 June 2015 (UTC) |
| | :I had problems with most people on the wiki at one time or another. I can't entirely remember, and I don't particularly care any more to be honest. =) --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 21:12, 3 June 2015 (UTC) |
| | :: if we could use the drama from this wiki to fuel power generators, we would have energy enough to power a small city for years --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 21:14, 3 June 2015 (UTC) |
| | :::Truer words never spoken.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 21:17, 3 June 2015 (UTC) |
| | ::::What were your thoughts on me? Be honest {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC) |
| | :::::I recall liking you? Can't remember much, it was 4ish years ago. :p I definitely have a positive impression.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 18:54, 5 October 2015 (UTC) |
| | ::::::Woohoo! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 22:52, 5 October 2015 (UTC) |
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| | == Why so old suggestion still around there is == |
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| Hey, yo, fam. Check this out. I was just at the club, right? Heard these two dudes talking. One of them said to the other one that they knew someone who said you guys are wack! =P --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:17, 28 October 2010 (BST)
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| :What yo' talking about, fool?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature3}} 18:19, 28 October 2010 (BST)
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| == Donkey ==
| | Because we have become lazy bums sitting all those years in our bunker, watching the state of the game and of the wiki unravel. Also because none of the suggestions will ever get implemented. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 19:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC) |
| | | :I'd say we're actually at peak chance of an implemented suggestion, what with them being specifically flagged in the survey and all. Still not ''likely'', but it's possible.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 22:41, 15 July 2015 (UTC) |
| Am I misremembering, or was there some sort of way to return these to you, if found? {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 17:34, 29 October 2010 (BST)
| | ::Speaking of the survey, did anyone happen to save a copy, or at least remember the contents? It was only open for a week, so of course I missed it. >_< <span style="border: 1px solid #D4AF37; background-color: #0047AB; <!-- Azure --> color: #D4AF37; <!-- Metallic Gold --> font: 12px 'lucida blackletter','lucida blacklet','lucida handwriting',cursive; text-align: justify;">[[User:Revenant|<span style="color: #D4AF37;">ЯЭV⁠€⁠NΛИ</span>]][[User talk:Revenant|<span style="color: #D4AF37;">†</span>]]</span> <span style="font-size:xx-small; letter-spacing: -2px; text-shadow: #cc4444 1px 1px 10px">[[File:555Manbabies.gif|You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|link=User:Revenant]][[User:ShaqFu|<span style="color:#FF0018">|</span>]][[User:Katthew|<span style="color:#33DD33">|</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#FF0048">|</span>]][[User:SprCobra|<span style="color:#FF0060">|</span>]][[User:Laughing Man|<span style="color:#FF0078">|</span>]][[User:Revenant|<span style="color:#FF0090">|</span>]][[User:underisk|<span style="color:#FF00A8">|</span>]][[User:I WARNED YOU ABOUT TEMPLATES BRO|<span style="color:#FF00C0">|</span>]][[User:DeRathi|<span style="color:#FF00D8">|</span>]][[User:DerpDerp|<span style="color:#FF00F0">|</span>]][[User:Abd al-Rahim ibn al-Husain al-'Iraqi|<span style="color:#FF00ff">|</span>]][[User:Sykic|<span style="color:#E700ff">|</span>]][[User:Vaporware|<span style="color:#CF00ff">|</span>]][[User:Nubis |<span style="color:#9F00ff">|</span>]][[User:Riseabove|<span style="color:#8700ff">|</span>]][[User:Teehee McGee |<span style="color:#6F00ff">|</span>]][[User:Anothergenericzombie|<span style="color:#5700ff">|</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#0048ff">|</span>]][[User:Mortimer Wiley|<span style="color:#0044DD">|</span>]][[User:Deadone|<span style="color:#3F00ff">|</span>]][[User:woland37|<span style="color:#2700ff">|</span>]][[User:Colbear|<span style="color:#0000dd">|</span>]][[User:Oh no!|<span style="color:#27ff00">|</span>]][[User:Bender Bending Rodriguez|<span style="color:#0F00ff">|</span>]][[User:Gardenator|<span style="color:#808000">|</span>]][[User:ephphatha |<span style="color:#0000ff">|</span>]][[User:SA|<span style="color:#0018ff">|</span>]]</span> 12:34, 10 September 2015 (UTC) |
| :[[Talk:Example page|Here]]. :P Bear in mind it may have already been claimed.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature3}} 23:22, 29 October 2010 (BST) | | :::It asked if you play Urbandead, how many characters with, what type of play (e.g. zombie/survivor), when you started/stopped playing, what you liked, what you didn't like and then to pick any 10 Peer Reviewed Suggestions you'd like implemented. There might have been more but that was the general gist of it.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 16:10, 10 September 2015 (UTC) |
| | | ::::Yeah, that was about it. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 01:45, 11 September 2015 (UTC) |
| ==Whoa==
| | ::::Interesting. Sankyu! The curiosity monkey can be hell to feed… <span style="border: 1px solid #D4AF37; background-color: #0047AB; <!-- Azure --> color: #D4AF37; <!-- Metallic Gold --> font: 12px 'lucida blackletter','lucida blacklet','lucida handwriting',cursive; text-align: justify;">[[User:Revenant|<span style="color: #D4AF37;">ЯЭV⁠€⁠NΛИ</span>]][[User talk:Revenant|<span style="color: #D4AF37;">†</span>]]</span> <span style="font-size:xx-small; letter-spacing: -2px; text-shadow: #cc4444 1px 1px 10px">[[File:555Manbabies.gif|You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|link=User:Revenant]][[User:ShaqFu|<span style="color:#FF0018">|</span>]][[User:Katthew|<span style="color:#33DD33">|</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#FF0048">|</span>]][[User:SprCobra|<span style="color:#FF0060">|</span>]][[User:Laughing Man|<span style="color:#FF0078">|</span>]][[User:Revenant|<span style="color:#FF0090">|</span>]][[User:underisk|<span style="color:#FF00A8">|</span>]][[User:I WARNED YOU ABOUT TEMPLATES BRO|<span style="color:#FF00C0">|</span>]][[User:DeRathi|<span style="color:#FF00D8">|</span>]][[User:DerpDerp|<span style="color:#FF00F0">|</span>]][[User:Abd al-Rahim ibn al-Husain al-'Iraqi|<span style="color:#FF00ff">|</span>]][[User:Sykic|<span style="color:#E700ff">|</span>]][[User:Vaporware|<span style="color:#CF00ff">|</span>]][[User:Nubis |<span style="color:#9F00ff">|</span>]][[User:Riseabove|<span style="color:#8700ff">|</span>]][[User:Teehee McGee |<span style="color:#6F00ff">|</span>]][[User:Anothergenericzombie|<span style="color:#5700ff">|</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#0048ff">|</span>]][[User:Mortimer Wiley|<span style="color:#0044DD">|</span>]][[User:Deadone|<span style="color:#3F00ff">|</span>]][[User:woland37|<span style="color:#2700ff">|</span>]][[User:Colbear|<span style="color:#0000dd">|</span>]][[User:Oh no!|<span style="color:#27ff00">|</span>]][[User:Bender Bending Rodriguez|<span style="color:#0F00ff">|</span>]][[User:Gardenator|<span style="color:#808000">|</span>]][[User:ephphatha |<span style="color:#0000ff">|</span>]][[User:SA|<span style="color:#0018ff">|</span>]]</span> 12:44, 11 September 2015 (UTC) |
| I seem to have hit the jackpot in Mos Eisley. The death of TripleU has cost him his weapon and ammunition, it seems. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| :I seem to have been killed by Corky.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature3}} 17:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| ::Heh. He must be mad that he lost his Mayoral position. xD --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:35, 1 November 2010 (UTC) | |
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| ==[[User:Axe Hack/Brawl in a Bar|Bar Fight!]]==
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| Based on picking names from my hat, your opponent is {{Usr|ObiFireFighter}}. I'll now leave you two to work out a bar and fight time. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
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| :Sup! Wich time-zone are you located on Yonnua? --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 21:46, 18 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| ::UK. and yourself?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 22:03, 18 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| :::Portugal, same as UK I think GMT (+00). Is 27th or 28th of November, next weekend ok? Any ideas for the location? --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 22:46, 19 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| ::::Sounds fine and I honestly don't care about location. Where's your character?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 22:49, 19 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| :::::Don't forget your fight times. Remember, I wanna get as much realtime combat in these bar fights as possible. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:51, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::ObiCop is in Vinetown but I can use ObiFF if he's closer to you. Let's pick some Bar half-way from your char and mine. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 22:54, 19 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| :::::::Mine's in the NW. I'll head down to you, but I don't see any pubs in Vinetown, so how about [[the Elsbury Arms]] in Crowbank?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 11:39, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| ::::::::Sounds good, let's do it on the 28th. Any hour for me is good as long is not too early or late. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 18:03, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::::I don't think the 28th works for Yon...He also registered his exact same alt for the Mudkip Hunt... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:05, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| ::::::::::Mudkip manhunt starts on the 1st?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| :::::::::::Yarp. So if you start this bar fight with the same character on the 28th, you'll have a few days to kill Obi and run over to the starting location (which would be Penny Heights...I haven't decided on the building yet). --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::::That's completely reasonable. And if the battle's dragging on, Tyrrano is idled near enough by that I can swap him in at the last minute.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:18, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::::::::Now we need to set the time of the fight, anything but during morning time is ok. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 17:47, 25 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| ::::::::::::::17:00-18:00 (GMT) ? --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 18:52, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::::::: Ok, it's set. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 18:22, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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| Let's see if I can clear things up. You can retract your bet. You can't change it. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:25, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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| :Then I'm staying as I started it.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 22:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC) | |
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| == Just to let you know... ==
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| Your brain Mr.Yonnua tasted quite good. --[[User:Radio|Radio]] 03:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
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| ==[[Malton Manhunt/Axe Hack's Mudkip Hunt|Mudkip Hunt]]==
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| There's a week left, so this is to remind you to meet at [[The Roger Arms]], [[Penny Heights]] if alive, or [[Junkyard 98,76]] if dead, [[Penny Heights]], 3 days before the competition begins. [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=646053 DJSpinbad] will be at that location to confirm you are there when the competition begins. Those who do not arrive will be disqualified. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:28, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
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| == Tapping you for your opinion == | |
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| Since I wasn't sure if you had seen [[User:Aichon/Sandbox/Demo8|this]] yet and I was fishing for comments or suggestions. Plus, I figure that anyone else interested will see it if I ping you and a few others. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:38, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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| == [[Discosaurs/Rage_in_the_Age/The_Event]] ==
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| Finish it. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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| == Smarty Pants ==
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| For <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Deletions&diff=1814851&oldid=1814848 this]</span> nifty turn of phrase you will pay. Dearly. You will pay...--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 03:34, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| == Swarm ==
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| Currently Standing in the lake, Due North of Purgatory. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| :Wait until tomorrow or later tonight. That way he won't stand back up.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 16:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| ::I have no intention of doing damage to the fine fellow. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| :::I have no weapon.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 16:23, 30 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| ::::Purgatory has sabres for 9 bucks --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:25, 30 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| :::::I woke up dead but I'll try to make it there. Which shop?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 16:26, 30 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| ::::::Southernmost I believe. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::It was northwestern. I take it you were locked in the shack in the SE corner?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 17:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Yeah! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::::I was tempted to break in and kill you, but I decided on an alternative.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 17:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::Funny, that's where I wanted to head. See me in #udwiki later. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 19:03, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::::::I laugh. I hid in Jim Bim's shack in the Forest of Despair for the past week stocking up on Morphine, Cactus Milk, and Opium. I'm doin' good so far. =P --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::::Do you have any spare? I'm running low because I keep getting killed.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 22:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::::::::Will trade Opium for bullets. From December 8 on. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 22:02, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::::::I'll trade now or not at all.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 22:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::::::::::I will say more, but there are some things that are too hot to say here. I'll set up a thread for DiL on the Organization XIII forums. I may/may not disclose it there. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:10, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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| [http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1139/dilmudkip.jpg Fear me]! --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Miss Bennet==
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| Town Hall of the Hive, Far NW --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:37, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| TSO has stated they are mainly fighting the Union. Thought you should know. Of course it's not that it matters to you...They do have beef with anyone involved with Spidey... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:47, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :I've not been intrinsically involved with Siderzed, but I'd imagine they'll clean me out if they find me anyway. Hopefully I'll outlast Ross though. :P --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 19:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Only 35 of us left! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::Jack the Ripper in corky's Forest of Despair shack. Edgar Flume in Jim Bim's shack in the Forest of despair. Of course, the question is, do you want to head down there with Berserkas in the area already? Hail the powers of irc! ;D --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::Where is the forest of despair on the map?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:09, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::{{*}}COUGH*--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 21:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| Forest of Despair is the huge forest near the south edge of the map. As for the irc channel, I'm not at liberty to give that information out to you...I would if I could, but they don't want you, so... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :Fair enough. Frankly, I don't want to be anywhere near the forest of despair if it's the battleground everyone's fighting on.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 21:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| Jim Bim's shack in Forest of Despair: Berserkas, dazed, Timothy Strough, Bill Turner, Jim Bim, Edgar Flume. First two have bolted. All but Jim Bim are active. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :Are they all a team? I would have figured Berserkas was just in it for himself.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 07:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Berserkas is with TSO. TSO stated they're helping Confeds. I'm pretty sure you can see why Berserkas and Dazed made a run for it. They were originally gonna team up on Jim Bim until those other three busted in. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::Right, I'll make sure not to kill him if I bump in to him then.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 17:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::You can now see speech when you're dead. O.O --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:42, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::28 left! Never going to make the end day. We've also all lost 3hp from the fissure. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:16, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::You can now speak when dead too, except it'll show up as "The ghost of (name here) says". --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::This is going well. I'm surprised no-one's found me yet. You had any close calls?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 18:59, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Constantly moving. Go to the centre of any body of water, and there's a survivor. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:38, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::::I'll bear that in mind when I go on my raid tonight.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 19:49, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| Interested? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:40, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :where?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 14:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Also, is he union or shiney, because I'm only going after the union.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 14:37, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::I'm a shiney. --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 17:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::Then I have no intention of killing you unless we're the last 2 people left. :D --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 17:42, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::Good to hear. If you're hunting Union not us I think I can get TSO to agree to mutual non-attacking as long as Unionists still breathe :) --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 17:50, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::Deal. I think this Lincoln guy's been getting a little too big for his boots.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 17:52, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::It's been communicated & agreed. Now for Union hunting goodness. --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 17:59, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Now you should probably debate on whether or not he should get irc access... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::::I don't mind either way, and to be fair, I probably wouldn't log on that frequently. I'll still communicate any unioners that I find here though.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 18:27, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ...if [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template:Dulston_Groups&curid=130820&diff=1818139&oldid=1799225 this] is of any significance. Poking you about it in case it is, since you're in that area and would know better how to handle it if it is a problem. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 06:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :Deathwire is the head honcho of DITPS. Figure he's protesting [[Big Coffin Hunters|my group]]'s classification. Or something like that. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 06:37, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::It's more of a show against the idiocy of the system in general, but yes, the greifers were kinda a catalyst. {{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 07:41, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :Being the leader of the group does not give him the right "to classify his group as whatever he wants". His group is pro-survivor (and even categorised as such). It's borderline vandalism as he's basically spreading misinformation on the suburb page. As for the Big Coffin Hunters it's pretty much the same. If I get it right, the group's goal is pking members of the Dulston Alliance which would classify as pking. Both are using the suburb group list as an extend of their roleplaying and own POV, which they shouldn't do. The suburb and it's group list are suppose to be ''neutral'' or NPOV, and anyone looking at it from an objective view (like I'm doing as I'm not involved) can see BCH is PKer and DITPS is Pro-Survivor. Tldr: The suburb group list should be taken from a neutral point of view, not from the groups point of view. Unless Í missed something important here, I'm going to fix the list soon. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 10:25, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Or Not. Corn believed firmly that his group was pro survivor. Try arguing with the [[PK]] that their actions aren't about promoting better survivors. Hell [[SFHNAS]] have been maintaining the only guaranteed [[EP]] in [[Kempsterbank]] for years. Of course if the only arbies case on this subject hadn't been so badly screwed we'd have a better answer. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::PK (I assume you mean the knights) are pkers by definition. The reasoning behind it is roleplaying and from their perspective. Corn's was at war with another group. I'm sure there are more gray areas to this, where NPOV is not sufficient to determine a group's nature. But in this case, with these 2 groups BCG and DITPS it's pretty obvious. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 11:24, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::Then raise it with them. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:26, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::I will. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|10px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''(Thad)eous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|10px]]</span> <sup><span style="color:Maroon">'''[[User:MisterGame|Talk]]'''</span></sup> 11:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::BCH uses PKing as one of their tools against very, very specific targets, but isn't a "Hostile Group" on a suburb level. 9 out of 10 visitors to the NE corner are perfectly safe from us. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 22:16, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :Sorry that I haven't been able to answer this, because I've been massively ill. Deahwire was almost definitely complaining about how The BCH (A group whose admission requirement is 10 PKs) have been allowed to classify as pro-survivor. In terms of using Philosophe knights as a parallel, that's completely inappropriate, because you don't need to PK to be a member, e.g. Damon Young. And of course, Deathwire was also probably confused by the fact that a system operator forced through the BCHs original changes. Personally, I agree with Thad that neither of them should have the right to classify as whatever they want, and they should be forced to put what they actually are. However, given that Deathwire had previously been informed that it was acceptable by a system operator, I see no reason to give him a vandalism case or anything like that. Either leave them both or move both to the right sections. Of course, if there is a case of any kind (Vandalism, arbies) I won't have anything to do with it, as an involved party.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 18:46, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Hasn't this issue come up quite a few times? My understanding was that it was entirely up to the group themselves how they were listed, and that's a position I'd stand behind. It's definitely not vandalism though, as it's not interfering with anything - if it gets to an edit war then the solution is to arby it and have someone neutral decide what stays where and set a precedent for it, but I'd hope common sense would stop people interfering enough to get that far. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 18:54, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::Well, my stance has always been that so long as they are consistent and can justify it somehow, it's generally fine. That said, D.I.T.P.S. lists itself as a survivor group on its own pages, which directly contradicts this change, hence why I was concerned. I don't want to speak for BCH, but in the case of the Philosophe Knights, we do, as was said, allow for our members to ascend the ranks without PKing (in fact, our most recent entrant to our highest rank did so, from what I heard). Additionally, the Knights are consistent in their message that they are acting in the best interests of the population, rather than being hostile for the sake of being hostile, and would hold that there is a difference between being a "PKer Group", which they readily admit that they are, and being a "Hostile Group", which is what gets listed on the suburb pages. Plus, there's also the fact that the suburbs where the Knights are listed are the ones where they do act in a very pro-survivor way, working alongside other groups to rebuild and maintain the suburb. So, in all of those regards, the Knights are not really an apt comparison to the current situation, since their listing as a survivor group is justifiable on quite a few different bases. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::Anyway, yeah, I'm not planning to pursue this, but I wanted to make sure a local with wiki knowledge was aware of it, since I didn't feel equipped to handle it at the time. Also, that last response was in general to the conversation, not just at you two, since clearly you both already knew most of it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::"Deahwire was almost definitely complaining about how The BCH (A group whose admission requirement is 10 PKs) have been allowed to classify as pro-survivor. In terms of using Philosophe knights as a parallel, that's completely inappropriate, because you don't need to PK to be a member, e.g. Damon Young" // How does this statement hold up considering the fact that we require our members to punish 2 members of the Ignorant masses (with an appropriate speech beforehand) before they are allowed to become a full member? And seeing as BCH appears to be a group which is solely at war with the Dulston Alliance (excepting the few DA groups which have earned BCH's ceasefire), how does that make them any different than the ''Umbrella Corporation vs the UBCS'' or ''Dragonhead vs Bigger Mortice''? Many thanks in advance, and Praise Knowledge. --{{User:DT/Signature}} 22:42, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::The real killer argument aren't the knights. The killer argument is Team Zombie Hardcore. No one has ever bothered to remove those clowns as survivor group from their suburb listings. For years, and despite heavy warfare from heavily metagaming (and wiki-savvy) players and groups against them. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 23:13, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::No, they've PKed survivors unaffliated with the Dulston Alliance, which they've also accepted for entrance in to their group.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 14:08, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
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| Sends his regards. --[[User:Riseabove|Riseabove]] 22:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :ROFL! --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:59, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| :Why?! Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!!!--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 14:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
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