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| What is it going to take to convince you of anything? If I was able to stay out of trouble for, say, six months, would that be enough? I'm just looking to do what's best here because obviously something has been going wrong up until this point. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 16:09, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| :Your long history of blatantly trollish behavior; this recent movement to impose your own vision of how things how ought to be done onto the wiki; and just generally not having a grip on your emotions (just look at your bizarre and inexplicable reactions re: those image deletions)... Because of all this, you have not merely zero credibility -- but ''negative number'' credibility. I don't consider you fit to be a sysop. Period. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 16:18, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| ::Well I'm sorry you feel that way. Hopefully one day you'll see me in a better light, but I guess you're not in the mood for thinking about that. I'm finding it a little difficult to believe that there is physically nothing I could ever ever do to change your mind - by the looks not even behaving perfectly for a whole year (or whatever) would make a difference in your opinion of me but hey. That's your perogative. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 16:22, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| ::One other little thing: I would have thought that you'd ''want'' me to have the opportunity to become a better sysop because surely looking to reform the sysop team would have a better outcome for the wiki than simply trimming its numbers? --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 16:25, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| :::<i>edit conflicted</i> And... Yeah I know that's pretty harsh... But, you may not believe this... but even when I go one a histrionics binge, I can most always step back and admit when I am wrong... and/or back off, let things cool down and give a person a deserved "second chance". The fact that you don't get any such consideration shows how completely reproachable and over-the-top I consider your behavior to be. You blew it, man, big time. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 16:26, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| :::Ok... but you know what? Nope, I'm not changing my mind. And, nope, I am not just going to shut my mouth, don't expect that by any means. However, the whole wiki (or those that care) know how I feel about you, cyberbob... So I will back off. Yeah. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 16:31, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| ::::(in response to your first post)I know I screwed up really badly, but there's literally nothing else I can do apart from work to make sure it never happens again. I think I deserve a second chance - I really do. I know you don't believe me on this one but my motivation in making those cases and whatnot was seriously not in bad faith. That is the honest truth. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 16:37, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| ::::(in response to your second post; I got edit conflicted as well)Well I never wanted you to "shut your mouth", but I did hope that you might have been able to see some way in which I could have redeemed myself. Obviously I was wrong on that count; will you at least agree to tone down the causticness a bit? I know how hypocritical it is to ask this of you but I've realised that tit-for-tat doesn't get anybody anywhere. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 16:37, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| :::::No, it doesn't. 'Nuff said. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 16:39, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| ::::::Er, was that a yes or a no? Looks like a yes but it's nearly 2am here so I could be wrong --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 16:40, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| :::::::siiiiigh --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 18:43, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| ::::::::Guessing it was a yes after all? :p --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 18:51, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| :::::::::Enough... if you can't read plain English, that's not my problem. I allowed this communication to take place, in spite of earlier requests for you to stay off my Talk page, because it was necessary. Well, we're finished now, and I want you off my Talk page again, please. Thanks. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 19:00, 18 July 2009 (BST)
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| If you make it like the current sysop nominations, then that would circumvent the vote argument, as the current sysop nominations is not a vote. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:36, 21 July 2009 (BST)
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| :I agree. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 00:38, 21 July 2009 (BST)
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| ::That won't stop people from making that argument when voting comes around, however. You'll need to clearly indicate why this is needed, cite examples of the current system failing, and not only explain why this is not a vote, but how it works. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:41, 21 July 2009 (BST)
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| :::Doesn't that completely destroy the ideal of getting rid of self-policing? If it comes down to the sysops anyway, then what's the point? And if you mean using the vouch system, then isn't that essentially another way of voting?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:34, 21 July 2009 (BST)
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| ::::The current system of nominating sysops uses a vouching system. If that is not considered voting, then I fail to see how using that system for a re-evaluation is suddenly considered voting. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 20:48, 21 July 2009 (BST)
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| :::::''blah blah blah'' deleted. this is my talk page, not your forum. thanks. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 15:25, 22 July 2009 (BST)
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| Wan Yao old boy! How the hell have you been? I've hopped back on the ol' UD train, so I thought I'd give you a holler, since we've always been BFF's! Anywho, come say hi in the spicer hills area if you feel so moved. Sorry if I did this wrong, it's been roughly a year since I last logged.[[User:Sean of the Dead|Pizzaboy Sean]] 20:40, 15 July 2009 (BST)
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| Your [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Community Sysop Demotion|policy]] is on the way to being archived, as per this [[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Community_Sysop_Demotion#The_rules_say_this_policy_should_be_archived|discussion]] on the talk page. I am making sure you are aware of this so if you still wish to put it to voting, you still have the opportunity. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 14:44, 2 August 2009 (BST)
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| :Archived now. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:56, 5 August 2009 (BST)
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