User talk:WanYao/Archive2

Serious question.

What is it going to take to convince you of anything? If I was able to stay out of trouble for, say, six months, would that be enough? I'm just looking to do what's best here because obviously something has been going wrong up until this point. --Cyberbob 16:09, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Your long history of blatantly trollish behavior; this recent movement to impose your own vision of how things how ought to be done onto the wiki; and just generally not having a grip on your emotions (just look at your bizarre and inexplicable reactions re: those image deletions)... Because of all this, you have not merely zero credibility -- but negative number credibility. I don't consider you fit to be a sysop. Period. --WanYao 16:18, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Well I'm sorry you feel that way. Hopefully one day you'll see me in a better light, but I guess you're not in the mood for thinking about that. I'm finding it a little difficult to believe that there is physically nothing I could ever ever do to change your mind - by the looks not even behaving perfectly for a whole year (or whatever) would make a difference in your opinion of me but hey. That's your perogative. --Cyberbob 16:22, 18 July 2009 (BST)

One other little thing: I would have thought that you'd want me to have the opportunity to become a better sysop because surely looking to reform the sysop team would have a better outcome for the wiki than simply trimming its numbers? --Cyberbob 16:25, 18 July 2009 (BST)

edit conflicted And... Yeah I know that's pretty harsh... But, you may not believe this... but even when I go one a histrionics binge, I can most always step back and admit when I am wrong... and/or back off, let things cool down and give a person a deserved "second chance". The fact that you don't get any such consideration shows how completely reproachable and over-the-top I consider your behavior to be. You blew it, man, big time. --WanYao 16:26, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Ok... but you know what? Nope, I'm not changing my mind. And, nope, I am not just going to shut my mouth, don't expect that by any means. However, the whole wiki (or those that care) know how I feel about you, cyberbob... So I will back off. Yeah. --WanYao 16:31, 18 July 2009 (BST)

(in response to your first post)I know I screwed up really badly, but there's literally nothing else I can do apart from work to make sure it never happens again. I think I deserve a second chance - I really do. I know you don't believe me on this one but my motivation in making those cases and whatnot was seriously not in bad faith. That is the honest truth. --Cyberbob 16:37, 18 July 2009 (BST)

(in response to your second post; I got edit conflicted as well)Well I never wanted you to "shut your mouth", but I did hope that you might have been able to see some way in which I could have redeemed myself. Obviously I was wrong on that count; will you at least agree to tone down the causticness a bit? I know how hypocritical it is to ask this of you but I've realised that tit-for-tat doesn't get anybody anywhere. --Cyberbob 16:37, 18 July 2009 (BST)

No, it doesn't. 'Nuff said. --WanYao 16:39, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Er, was that a yes or a no? Looks like a yes but it's nearly 2am here so I could be wrong --Cyberbob 16:40, 18 July 2009 (BST)

siiiiigh --WanYao 18:43, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Guessing it was a yes after all? :p --Cyberbob 18:51, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Enough... if you can't read plain English, that's not my problem. I allowed this communication to take place, in spite of earlier requests for you to stay off my Talk page, because it was necessary. Well, we're finished now, and I want you off my Talk page again, please. Thanks. --WanYao 19:00, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Your policy

If you make it like the current sysop nominations, then that would circumvent the vote argument, as the current sysop nominations is not a vote. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 00:36, 21 July 2009 (BST)

I agree. --WanYao 00:38, 21 July 2009 (BST)

That won't stop people from making that argument when voting comes around, however. You'll need to clearly indicate why this is needed, cite examples of the current system failing, and not only explain why this is not a vote, but how it works. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 00:41, 21 July 2009 (BST)

Doesn't that completely destroy the ideal of getting rid of self-policing? If it comes down to the sysops anyway, then what's the point? And if you mean using the vouch system, then isn't that essentially another way of voting?--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 20:34, 21 July 2009 (BST)

The current system of nominating sysops uses a vouching system. If that is not considered voting, then I fail to see how using that system for a re-evaluation is suddenly considered voting. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 20:48, 21 July 2009 (BST)

blah blah blah deleted. this is my talk page, not your forum. thanks. --WanYao 15:25, 22 July 2009 (BST)

Wan Yao old boy! How the hell have you been? I've hopped back on the ol' UD train, so I thought I'd give you a holler, since we've always been BFF's! Anywho, come say hi in the spicer hills area if you feel so moved. Sorry if I did this wrong, it's been roughly a year since I last logged.Pizzaboy Sean 20:40, 15 July 2009 (BST)

Archival

Your policy is on the way to being archived, as per this discussion on the talk page. I am making sure you are aware of this so if you still wish to put it to voting, you still have the opportunity. --ϑϑℜ 14:44, 2 August 2009 (BST)

Archived now. Linkthewindow Talk 07:56, 5 August 2009 (BST)

about arbitration cases and irc

yeah, i really fuckd up there... i let my trust on DDR cloud the fact that he was the owner of #urbandeadwiki, which would make him a biased arbitrator. Anyway, its not all lost, you can still file your own arbie against them and try to settle things with another (hopefully) unbiased arbitrator. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 14:52, 11 July 2009 (BST)

literally lollin --Cyberbob 15:01, 11 July 2009 (BST)

of course you are, bob, because it's obvious that you don't have anything real in you life to satisfy you.

anyway, hagnat... whatever... i was annoyed with you, but it's not a big deal. in any event, i'm sitting here looking at how easily the newfag sysop team got hoodwinked by cyberbob into being his unwitting pawns... and i don't think i want to have anything to do with an admin team that is this weak and wishy-washy, i'm just walking away from wiki admin shit -- unless grim gets his ass back here and gives these people a piece of reality :)

speaking of reality... it rears it's head in the middle of this... this wiki drama is so fucking trivial... get a fucking life, cyberbob, yeah... --WanYao 15:14, 11 July 2009 (BST)

ur too astute for me wanyao im like an open book to u :( (srsly how did u know about my life IRL????) --Cyberbob 15:18, 11 July 2009 (BST)

The claim that Cyberbob leads us in any way is a total fallacy. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:25, 11 July 2009 (BST)

The fact you tolerate his behavior says more then enough.--Thadeous Oakley 15:31, 11 July 2009 (BST)

and u....dont tolerate my behaviour? --Cyberbob 15:32, 11 July 2009 (BST)

The priority in my line of work, as a janitor, is that the job gets done. If that means doing so through a much more aggressive and rude attitude that other sysops, then so be it. I don't always agree with his decisions, and I never agree with his tendency to argue with petty quips till the bitter end, but if users like you are willing to get sucked into such arguments, then he'll always be there to keep you satisfied. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:35, 11 July 2009 (BST)

fuck.....youre making me look like a monster.................... (for satisfying tools) --Cyberbob 15:39, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Anyway, i fixed a mistake i did in the past now. Lil' late, but better late than never. I removed AS of his founder status from #udwiki and put rev as admin and the next successor for the channel if i lose my nick yet again (hardly, since ill be more active there now). --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 15:33, 11 July 2009 (BST)

BETTER NATE THAN LEVER --Cyberbob 15:34, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Fucking edit conflicts on my own talk page... anyway... I was saying...

One can be hoodwinked without being aware of it, and follow without knowing you're being led...

cyberbob has a personal grievance against AnimeSucks and, it appears, hagnat. That's the root cause of him wanting a new IRC channel: to give the big finger to his personal adversaries. Did you ever talk to AS about the channel? Or to the server's owner, jorm, about the way ops were handled in that IRC?

You're being manipulated, DDR. Just like you were manipulated into giving cyberbob sysop status in the first place... He was demoted for a reason, once before... You'll come to see soon enough, I bet, what kind of can of worms you've opened...

Anyway.... get this fucking bullshit off my Talk page.

And cyberbob... You are not welcome to post here, except for necessary wiki admin purposes... and in that case you are to comport yourself in a professional and mature manner. Otherwise I will get you banned from this talk page via arby. --WanYao 15:39, 11 July 2009 (BST)

I don't give a shit about Bob and his grievances with Hag or AS. I care about having a channel that works for users. Sonny actively made that harder and harder. My loyalties lie with something that encourages active UDWiki discussion and that was near impossible in #udwiki. You'd know of course, examples being relevant conversations just being downgraded to apathetic and non-constructive comments by users like Sonny, or him changing conversations to ridiculous arguments. Example, of course was the "Do you think the RRF are good?" And, of course, when he repeated it to me, and I said "yes", he banned me. Hardly a channel worthy of encouraging well-meaning users to. Of course, I applaud Hagnat at taking over the channel and redoing the hierarchy, and I support his intentions of bringing the channel back to it's glory, and I will help if asked, but it really was all too late, he should have considered doing that before rushing into an arbies case he knew nothing about, and in the end, his promises that he will stay may be just as hollow as those that he made when he went for re-promotion after Grim left. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:51, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Agreed, a channel like the new one is needed, and discussion of the wiki in a good enviroment is neccesary.-- Adward 15:59, 11 July 2009 (BST)

No. A new channel wasn't needed. UDwiki has been the wiki's IRC channel forever, and it ought to remained so. All that was needed was a zero-tolerance attitude towards trolling. /ignore Sonny would have been a start in that direction... Talking to AS about it was another step, because he's not at all unreasonable, if you actually approach him reasonably. And, finally, probably the smartest thing to have done was to PM jorm and tell him -- concisely -- what was going on. Jorm is both immensely supportive of the community, and at the same time completely no-bullshit...

But you guys did none of these things, did you? Instead, you just whinged and created a new and unneeded channel? And in the process played right into the hands of cyberbob's agenda. The latter is trivial matter, but... still... All of this drama was totally unnecessary -- if you'd gone about things correctly. --WanYao 16:39, 11 July 2009 (BST)

ehhhhh al this shit came up after the channel creation went down--x o x o 16:52, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Cyberbob's agenda? Forgive me if I don't take ZOMG CONSPIRACY right away, thanks.-- Adward 17:53, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Here we go, the Bob conspiracy, from those that know it most. It's nice to see that something brought you back to the wiki and the IRC channels, Wan. Maybe now you'll have a clue about what you're talking about. (Talked to AS, nothing happened. Ignore sonny and he repeats the question 6,000 times, one wonders why you never /ignored him, and yeah, the irony is that having to /ignore a channel's admin is really productive towards the use of a channel. And are you blind? NexusWar Admin stepped into the arbitration and specifically said it was up to us to sort out). Don't tell us that what we did was wrong, because you have yet to prove to us that making a new channel has upset anyone, besides the 4 ghosts that owned #udwiki channel beforehand. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:38, 12 July 2009 (BST)

And please, the notion that Cyberbob leads us is just idiotic. To think you haven't understood that Cyberbob always takes the brunt of every argument head on if it's his opinion to do so, and the idea that you translate that as 'leadership' among a "brainwashed clique" (ie. anyone who agrees with him and not with you) is once again laughable. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:45, 12 July 2009 (BST)

Read what I wrote again, DDR. About cyberbob, et al. I was very clear, but you didn't seem to understand what I was saying....

Furthermore, I don't see anywhere in that Arby case any posts from jorm... or any of the people who assist jorm with the whole nexuswar/barhah.com scene, other than an "unofficial" comment by karek. Please show me where this conversation took place. Seriously, did you ever approach jorm or, say, revenant and ask them to fix the ops on those channels? If not, why not?

Also, I never left IRC... I've just limited my participation to a few channels. There's more drama on IRC than on the whole wiki, so I've "narrowed my focus". And, finally, I've had Sonny on ignore since that stupid RRF troll incident, so I am not sure wtf you're talking about there. But whatever... You're right, it just doesn't matter, either way.... --WanYao 05:09, 12 July 2009 (BST)

Alright, mea culpa... I found where the NW folks stepped in... ooops... --WanYao 05:14, 12 July 2009 (BST)

his promises that he will stay may be just as hollow as those that he made when he went for re-promotion after Grim left * PRIORITIES * something i set really high this year in order to finally graduate, and i was really succesful at that with my thesis being approved this time. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 21:10, 11 July 2009 (BST)

That proves nothing but your likeness towards Conndraka, which says nearly nothing. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:38, 12 July 2009 (BST)

NW Scan templates in the Suburb News

Revisions in, would like your input, Thanks.--Dr Mycroft Chris 21:03, 11 June 2009 (BST)

herp

derp --Cyberbob 12:59, 8 June 2009 (BST)

Go vote on ALiM

theres like 10 new lolcations you might as well vote on.--x o x o 09:00, 22 May 2009 (BST)

Rosslessness's Bid

Your vote only contains a timestamp. Could you sign it with your full signature, please? --Pestolence^(talk) 22:15, 12 May 2009 (BST)

Sysopsness

I want you to say yes please!!! DO IT! --– Nubis ^NWO 07:18, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Please go and say yes or no or whatever, before drama happens.-- Adward 22:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Your case is going to be finished tomorrow, are you going to say whether you officially accept or decline your nomination?--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 19:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the 'LOL'. I was a bit testy that day. Your Comment. Perhaps it is best to step back and breathe before commenting on suggestions, eh? -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 03:29, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Happy Valentines Day

	Valentines Day
	Fiffy has given WanYao a candy heart for being uber awesome.

--Fiffy 04:17, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:( --/~Rakuen~\^Talk

I Still Love Grim 06:38, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

NPOV Restored

Suggestion noted and implemented. I had totally forgotten about that, so thanks for the memo. --Maverick 08:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Moved

I moved your comment on the Ridleybank page under the, according to this one typing, correct space.--Thadeous Oakley 16:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Frell

What the hell is with all the frell?--Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 02:15, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

frelled if i know.... --WanYao 04:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Changes to Misconduct Review

I took your advice (actually I kind of felt that way all along) and made it Unsatisfactory Review = 24 hours til demotion. I added a section about a no confidence vote that I would like your input on. I also added that sysops can't say "whatever the vote decides is my opinion". I would have voted misconduct on any case you brought for shirking responsibility. btw --– Nubis ^NWO 20:14, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I know you don't agree with the Minor misconduct addition, but I did add a clause about no abstain votes and any sysop that comments on a case is expected to provide a ruling or face a VB case. Also, any Op that votes unsubstantiated and it is valid has to supply a vote. I feel if ops are going to show up on A/M they should have to make a decision. --– Nubis ^NWO 00:23, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

It was..

..my mistake. Don't worry about that :) --Janus ^talk 15:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Walkie talkie chargers

I agree that rare doesn't equal balanced. What I'm trying to do though isn't just add another rare item to acquire, but add the need for a separate trip. The idea of the WT is that it's about foresight and planning ahead for when your suburb is ruined, the phone mast is down, and you're forced to run for your life. People need to invest AP in advance to have a powered walkie or two in reserve. But it's pretty simple to find a walkie, keep it in your inventory, and then just recharge it when you come across a powered building. Walkies aren't as useful when your suburb is secure, so I want finding a bracket to be done only by smart people in secure suburbs with the foresight to realize the suburb won't stay secure. --A Big F'ing Dog 17:04, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like Tselita's Mobile phone charger (was it?) _■^■ 20:45, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

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joking about the beerhah thing, but k--PFC 21:10, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

SOS arbies case

I hope you don't mind, but I copied your message to Lucas Black to here, the actual account that was editing the page. He seems to have 2 accounts, one with a space between the names, one without -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 23:49 21 December 2008 (BST)

ah, i didn't realise that. thanks. --WanYao 00:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

More on the Arbies Drama

Shouldn't have replied there at all if you wanted it on that talk pages, much less have complained about it in response constantly without moving it. I do have a talk page after all. And while I don't care about the general opinion of me I do very much mind being accused of doing something that isn't happening because someone doesn't understand how their actions led to the thing to be complained about and decide it's all other other person's fault so they are somehow not spamming a page by constantly spamming that the other person is spamming in the wrong place. Things like your recent comment on arbies is exactly why I posted there, to get you to stop now that I have, which you aren't because you somehow feel you weren't doing the exact same thing you accused me of. --Karek^maps?! 01:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

No. I offered to officially Arbitrate. However, I set terms for accepting the "position" of Arbitrator. I also clarified some of the established procedures for Arbitration, which some people don't seem to be aware of. That's different. Meanwhile, I'm sick and tired of everyone playing the holier than thou card on the wiki... I don't pretend to be perfect and flawless and infallible... I merely suggested that your "mediation" was being done in the wrong place, and that it had the effect of spamming up the Arby case. You're free to disagree; however, if you wanna talk about "spamming" the Abry page, well, you and Iscariot are the bona fide guitly parties, not I.

I deleted out previous conversation from my talk page... And I will do the same with this one, karek... because I am sick of the petty bullshit that's been going down in the Admin pages... And as much as I myself am guilty of such things -- exactly because I can be at times guilty of such myself -- I am trying to put a stop to it. Thanks. --WanYao 01:27, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I expected you to delete it. Just felt some more explanation was necessary because of your response there and here before you deleted the last one.--Karek^maps?! 02:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Double

I noticed that a lot of the discussions on your talk page are duplicates of ones that occurred at a different spot on the same page. Is this intentional? --Pestolence^(talk) 22:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Nope, it's not intentional. I don't start the threads... ;) --WanYao 22:57, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Dulston Editing

First of all a big FUCK YOU. I know how the wiki is supposed to work. Unfortunately, this place is run by a lot of egocentric and pompous assholes who have turned it into a political fiasco. Yes, a simple informational website for a simple game gone to hell. Let's take...well you for instance. You deleted a few days worth of news by myself as well as another person at least. Mine of course was simply stating that Dulston Alliance was taking back buildings and would like support. What's the harm there? I wasn't stating that the zombies suck and have all died, everything is hunky dory and there is going to be a kegger with naked women. Or should I have put that? If this isn't news to that particular suburb I'm not sure what is. You deleting it then talking how it doesn't merit mention because zombies are there is completely out of line. Have you been to the burb lately? Probably not. So you don't really know shit do you? Just because you choose the PK/Zed playing style in the game (like other Moderators on here) does not me you can do whatever the fuck you want. If something doesn't look good to you...it's gone. You and you're stupid pals all bully around other users and try to humiliate them all in the name of your groups or for yourselves. Finger pointing at one person and laughing at the next. I've even witnessed the stupid "peoples court" you guys run here. Let me see...it was a DORIS member versus a Pro-survivor member...with a DORIS judge. Ummm...yeah that's like have a blind, deaf & dumb jury. You know what? This is a PUBLIC site. Fix errors, typos & stuff like that but let people have a little expressive freedom with their words & opinions. Don't just delete it because it goes against what you think/feel. Oh, and have you tried looking up rules you guys setup on here? It's an absolute cluster fuck! No organization whatsoever. So great job! Have fun on your high horse.

Please let the others know this wiki is turning into a joke...that isn't funny. This is about a little game based on a fictional city named Malton. This is not Washington D.C.

-Officer Murphy-

All users are asked to post in an NPOV style. You failed to do so. Therefore, I deleted the offending posts. Sorry if you're butthurt by that, too bad, so sad. Everything else you've said is irrelevant, inaccurate and/or merely inflammatory. And will therefore be appropriately ignored. Have a nice day. And post NPOV! --WanYao 23:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Moreover... In spite of your accusations of "bias", et al., I do my best to report objectively and even-handedly. If you peruse my News reports in [[|Dulston|Nah Baghab]], you'll see that I give just mention of, and due credit to, the Dulston Alliance and other survivor groups. So just smarten up, quit being an asshat... NPOV isn't that hard to follow: just avoid overt propagandising and offering up tactical advice. There are other members of the DA who are able to do it just fine, maybe you could ask them how.... --WanYao 01:13, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Yeah...whatever. By the way NPOV is not meant for the Urban Dead wiki. I mean it's not like we have "factual" information to base stuff off. Even if we were to reference a building or something it's not like that particular topic can't change in a heartbeat and by the time you or your "source" check it out you then edit. Look, I can't quote what Rolling Stone Magazine had to say on Malton. Know why? Because Malton is a fictional city! If you guys are going to go by this NPOV shit then at least don't have a link for us to reference rules lead to complete useless crap. There is an NPOV talk page sitting here that all of you should put to use. I'll post what I want until then and if it's deleted so be it. -Officer Murphy 19:06, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

NPOV is how we handle community pages here. No, it's not the wikipedia or an academic thesis. It doesn't work the same way as one of those However, there are some rules and guidelines. But if you don't want to play nice with the other people on the wiki and deal with some simple style guides and rules... well... whatever. --WanYao 21:47, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

feel da powaa

when are you going to join the cool kids and come to the sysop side ? In april you asked for a few days, i guess that by now you got plenty of 'em. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 21:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

and your talk page needs a new archive. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 21:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

you're right, it does need archiving, doesn't it... and, while i'm playing again after a little break... i'm really not as interested or able to spend anywhere near as much time here as i was before, especially in regards to wiki drama, etc. in a way, that might be a good thing: i'm pretty distant from the drama etc., and plan to stay that way... however, if i was going to do the sysop thing, i'd be a "sporadic" sysop... --WanYao 20:07, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Your's is a voice i could trust with the banhammer and other tools, and one i would like to hear, even if only sporadically. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 22:19, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Wan, Issy is a prick that basically just made Sgt. Raiden a sympathy case for the ops since he was such a fucking ass to him. You are getting Issy's sloppy seconds to clean up and I'm sure Sgt. Raider won't play nice now. Just stay calm and professional like you usually do and I'm sure you will get more help dealing with him than Issy. I'll rep the Sgt. if it comes down to it in arbs. Pretty sure Nubs wants Sarge gone but he's trying to at least act like he is giving him a shot. Ya know? oooohh wki drama! -- #99 ^DCC 17:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't necessarily want him GOME. If he smartens up, there ain't no problem.... My comments about the sysop team are just based on the fact that i perceive them to be a bit erratic of late. That may or may not be justified, and it's not like I think everyone sucks... I just... wonder sometimes whether they'll do the right thing, is all. Anyhoo... I can check out admin pages after eating some harmanz. \o/ --WanYao 02:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Wiki questions

Hey, noticed you seem to handle a lot of the editing on the Dunell Hills and surrounding suburb pages, so figured it'd be best to ask you first: Where is the changing of suburb danger levels actually done? Does it show in the history? I've looked in recent history for both the suburb page itself, and the suburb danger map, but can't see where it's changed. I am a relative wiki amateur however so it might be right under my nose. Just curious as to how I'd determine who changed the suburb level if they didn't leave a note in the recent news section. Thanks -- Peter McGrady ^FoD 01:32, 22 October 2008 (BST)

Aha! Knew it'd be somewhere obvious. Thanks for that. -- Peter McGrady ^FoD 04:53, 22 October 2008 (BST)

That can't be good...

I was gonna ask you where you been all my life, then i checked your contribs and noticed you'd only been gone 4 days...how'd you miss out on all the 2 Cool bashing that was going on? It would have been right up your alley too...--x o x o 06:32, 17 October 2008 (BST)

ah j3d, see... see how much you love me? i always said... it was only a matter of time before you saw the light... however, i'm not coming back to this "skene" in any major capacity for a long time. if ever. which means you couldbeat that 3-d repair record we share... which i have to fucking post someday, hmnnnnnnn... --WanYao 06:49, 17 October 2008 (BST)

You? 134? I find that difficult to believe. This skene needs you more than ever, know that we'll always have each other, you can stand under my umbrella, ella, ella. But yeah, why the ditching? --x o x o 11:28, 17 October 2008 (BST)

Great Fire ambiguity

Hey as one of the wikizens around here that has a background with ALiM projects that goes back before the purge, we'd greatly appreciate if you went here and testified. We are asking for witnesses who can confirm the fact that the page, Great Fire of 1912 was indeed created by and largely moderated by myself and User:J3D. The task of claiming our creation over the page is complicated by the fact that no history is available to back up our claim due to the history purge. Thanks for you time.--Nallan (Talk) 08:27, 11 October 2008 (BST)

Mall FAK Rates

Seem to be around 1/5....compile some data on it!--x o x o 12:48, 9 October 2008 (BST)

something like that. shit... i decide to quit UD and all this rawking shit takes place. i should quit UD more often! :) --WanYao 07:08, 10 October 2008 (BST)

Hospital search rates seem about the same, as do gun store search rates. --Jen 03:24, 11 October 2008 (BST)

Building Statuses

I've noticed you've been changing the status of malls to "unknown" if they haven't been updated in two weeks. What's your opinion on buildings in general, that haven't had their status changed in ages? Like, say...this one or this one? Also, there's some buildings that don't even have one of those templates - would it be worthwhile, do you think, to remove "building status" from any non-TRP/non-mobile phone mast buildings, at the very least? As those rarely, if ever get updated, and have no real reason to be updated as things stand? (Well..unless they're the headquarters of group...but those are pretty rare). And in either case...if anyone wants to report the current status of a building, there's also the "current news/current status" subheadings on the page, too. --Jen 03:34, 7 October 2008 (BST)

...is there any reason why pages such as this can't just be deleted from the wiki? Please? They're clutter. Occasionally-updated utterly useless CLUTTER. Maybe that's not a reason for deleting them...but WHY THE HELL were they created in the first place???? The TRP, yeah, I can understand those. But generic buildings, with NO unique history? WHY???? --Jen 07:56, 7 October 2008 (BST)

Some of the wiki's more betterer contributors, including those over at ALiM are trying to lolify some of the stub locations to improve the wiki for everyone. Unfortunately some people are out to stop the wiki from being a better place, see 2 Cool intro paragraph for more info. Anyway they exist for whenever anyone does need to add something to one.--x o x o 11:24, 7 October 2008 (BST)

Please don't use my Talk page for this, J3D. And, Jen, the wiki is pretty piecemeal and inconsistent... And people don't even update malls regularly, NTs and other resource buildings are even worse... But, unless a number of people decide to get rid of Status Reports for non-descripts (which I support in principle, I think), it's probably just goinf to stay the way it is... --WanYao 13:00, 7 October 2008 (BST)

Hmm...how would one go about rallying support for getting rid of Status Reports for non-descripts? --Jen 22:22, 8 October 2008 (BST)

Just delete them off, i doubt anyone would notice. If they did then tell 'em to update it more often, chances are they'll either oblige or let you delete. Leave NT ones though, some of them are updated from time to time.--x o x o 23:36, 8 October 2008 (BST)

Deleting the "status report" thing off the page would only be a superficial fix. Though not one I'm averse to making. Ideally...I'd want to get rid of all the Status Report templates for non-TRP buildings. (Hmm...if I deleted it off the page...would that then make it an unused template, and viable for deletion? *Jen plots evilly*) --Jen 23:45, 8 October 2008 (BST)

Now you're thinking like an evil genius! Just put the subpages all up for deletion, rally the troops (ie me and wan) to vote, then someone else has to do the work of actually going through and deleting them all. Or just do the unused template way, either works :) --x o x o 12:03, 9 October 2008 (BST)

ALiM's Birthday Party

You've been cordially invited to attend ALiM's birthday party at Club Head at 10am GMT on the 18th of October. Festivities will last for a full 24 hours. See here for more details.--Nallan (Talk) 02:16, 7 October 2008 (BST)

What happened???

Has this ever happened to you before? I couldn't use my FAK. And it ate my last FAK, to boot. --Jen 01:06, 6 October 2008 (BST)

Oo thats cool, was it on the 60hp or the 45? Either way unfortunate your FAK got goned :( --x o x o 01:28, 6 October 2008 (BST)

Hmm...actually, it's not cool, as several of the Philosophes have explained to me. *sigh* I've been inordinately careful about avoiding stuff like this, too...it's NOT MY FAULT! *crosses her fingers, runs far, FAR away, and hopes that she's not cursed for life.* --Jen 03:49, 6 October 2008 (BST)

I have no idea why you're coming to me with this stuff!!! :) --WanYao 13:01, 7 October 2008 (BST)

'Cause your awesome and know cool stuff and doesn't afraid of anything. ;) --Jen 22:21, 8 October 2008 (BST)

UDWiki:Image Categorisation

Come on Wan! Me having to tell you where something is on the wiki? You're slipping old man. What what? --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 21:43, 12 August 2008 (BST)

stressful fucking day. i don't wanna think! ;P

I normally dont even cat the images if they arent being used, and then ask a sysop to delete them after two weeks. Its a scheduled deletion or something--Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 22:21, 12 August 2008 (BST)

Category:Unused Images is actually decently helpful. Even if we also have a Special page that does the same thing. It keeps the image out of the way of the other people categorizing images.--Karek^maps?! 22:41, 12 August 2008 (BST)

Trolling and drama-whoring will not be tolerated. Any post may be deleted at my sole discretion.

Thanks for your time. ;)

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