User talk:Rosslessness/Quiz
Quizzes
The quizzes are unified by one thing. Yes People. Its Zombies.
Heres Number one.
Quiz 1
First quiz needs only light detective work.
George Romero. One of his films involves a character called Madahas. The same actor is in DAWN of the DEAD. What role did he play in that Romero film? (As in Dawn of the dead, not the film where he was madahas.)--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Guesses
Guess below baby! I wish you well.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Madahas? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:18, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- I have now amended my foolish question.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Damn it! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- I have now amended my foolish question.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
He played Martinez, in Dawn of the Dead. He went uncredited, however. -- Quizzical Quiz Speak 18:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Now thats a winner. Im off to make your prize. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:04, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- You can steal one of my prizes. Not all of them were made by me... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Quiz 2
Heres a gibberish quiz.
Where Would you see a conflict between a Zombius atypicus and a Carcharodon?
Hint. Its a film. I require title and director.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Guesses
Wha-? I didn't get that last part... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:32, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
LAst part of what?--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- I searched Google for "Zombius atypicus and a Carcharodon" and got nothing. Is this a trick question? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:04, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Try breaking it down into different bits. At least one word in the question is made up, to stop the I goggled it straight away brigade.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's what you meant when you said gibberish question, eh? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Try breaking it down into different bits. At least one word in the question is made up, to stop the I goggled it straight away brigade.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Zombi 2 (also known as Zombie, Island of the Living Dead, Zombie Island, Zombie Flesh Eaters, and Woodoo). It contains a shark vs. Zed scene. Carcharodon is a shark. Zombius Atypicus is an atypical zed. Directed by Lucio Fulci. -- Quizzical Quiz Speak 22:43, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Another Winner. Now to find two prizes.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- I knew it was a typical zombie vs. a shark! Just couldn't find the right match on Google... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:24, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Quiz 3
OK, a bit more obscure. What is the full name of the main character in the film Shaun of the Dead? (I am expecting his full DJ name.)--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:16, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Guesses
- Um...Can I get a Bonus for knowing the actor is Simon Peg? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- In the event of a tie, yes.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:33, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Like a tie is ever gonna happen... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:44, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- In the event of a tie, yes.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:33, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
I designate a tie as when two individuals post inside the same minute.
It happened to me yesterday, remember? Decision is made on who provides the most background facts, in the answer post or preceeding ones.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yes...but if you look at the history, you'll be able to see who got the first post. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Is it Shaun Riley? --Z. slay3r • Talk 20:07, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
It's Shaun Smiley Riley. And the actor's name is Simon Pegg, with two G's. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 20:10, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
And thats a Winner Ladies and gentlemen. Shaun 'Smiley' Riley. I'll go get your prize.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:12, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Do I get a bonus for knowing the actor? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:36, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Yay! And I only had to watch the movie with the commentary to find it! --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 20:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Quiz 4
Its a two parter people.
1) What Person could link Cooke Cinema with Mrh? Cows in Nixbank?
2) State the other "game" in which this person could be connected to zombies.
3) The connection is also in a film, and at least one song. If you're showing off.....--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Guesses
Go on then--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:50, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Outbreak?--Karekmaps?! 22:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Alas no. Try and work out the malton based answer to the first part of the question.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
1) What Person could link Cooke Cinema with Mrh? Cows in Nixbank? Mariyn Monroe
2) www.zombiefriends.com
3) Afraid I don't know how to show off on this one, not sure if I'm even right, though I am close on the first one. -Ottari
- Well you got 1) Right! I can't see how zombiefriends is a "game". And if it is, its not the type of game I'm looking for.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:29, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- He didn't get 1 right. He spelled her name wrong. It's Marilyn Monroe. 2 is baseball? And 3 is Cleopatra? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, you are more right. 1 is correct. Its Monroe. 2. Hows that linked to zombies? And its not that type of game etiher. And three. Just plain no.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- I have no idea how 2 links with zombies. I'm just picking random things off of Marilyn Monroe's wikipedia page... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, you are more right. 1 is correct. Its Monroe. 2. Hows that linked to zombies? And its not that type of game etiher. And three. Just plain no.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- He didn't get 1 right. He spelled her name wrong. It's Marilyn Monroe. 2 is baseball? And 3 is Cleopatra? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Try googling zombies and marilyn. or.......--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:34, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does seem to have a slight advantage...Especially with a list of her films...(Um...no one look at this strikeout, OK?) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:37, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Try googling zombies and marilyn. or.......--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:34, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
You're so barking up the wrong alley. Its her name thats the association. I dont even think shes mentioned in the film, or the game. This is impossible. The next quiz will be easier.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:43, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- In fact, have a massive clue.....JC Penney (210,467 sq. ft)--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:49, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- That JC Penny commercial? You know...the one where all those celebs are prepping the store for it's opening? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:43, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
1) Marilyn Monroe 2) Mall of Horror 3) Movie:Dawn of the Dead, Song: "Early Sunsets Over Monroeville". --Z. slay3r • Talk 16:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Winner. I'll go make your prize.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:48, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Quiz 5
This ones easier.
Where would you find the following odd quote?
- He's not a zombie...
Guesses
Go!--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Resident Evil? Dawn of the Dead? Silent Hill? 28 Days Later? 28 Weeks Later? I would say 28 months later, but that hasn't come out...Yet. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC) Can I add on here? I'd like to add Rob Zombie. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
RE4. Leon's reaction upon killing his first Ganado. X1M43 20:49, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- I mentioned Resident Evil. See that nice long list I have right there? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:49, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- But not resident evil 4. The Winner is X1M43.
- *Beep* you and go *beep* your *beep* mother you *beep beep*!!!! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:20, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- But not resident evil 4. The Winner is X1M43.
Quiz 6
Lets have some more resident evil. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- When is Jill Valentines Birthday?
Guesses
No help on this one.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Wow....Who would have guessed it was Valentine's Day (February 14th) of 1975? As a bonus, she's blood type B, 5'5, and weighs 111lbs. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:29, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
WINNER WINNER WINNER--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Heh. It comes from me playing too many Resident Evil games all the time. And watching the movies too many times as well...Do I get a bonus for all those bonuses? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Quiz 7
- Which zombie movie features a character called Liberty?
Guesses
Again. No hints. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
House of the Dead, played by Kira Clavell. --Z. slay3r • Talk 21:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Another Winner. Must make the next one hard.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:16, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Quiz 8
When is the creation of zombies due to the Death 1 compound? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Guesses
Bonus points for telling me the REAL director.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Zombi 3. God that's an old movie. Credited director is Lucio Fulci, uncredited directors are Claudio Fragasso and Bruno Mattei. --Scurley7 08:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Winner, must catch up prizes. And a bonus point.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:17, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Quiz 9
What parts were played by tom savini, Scott Reiniger, and Ken foree, in Dawn of the dead? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Guesses
Easy! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- (Original DOTD)Ken foree= Police Officer(Peter)/tom savini=Blades Biker/ Scott Reiniger=Roger
- (2004-remake)Ken Foree=Priest on TV ("when there is no more room in hell..)Tom Savini=The County Sheriff("she is a twitcher"), Scott Reiniger= Army General. Do I get extra credit because you didn't specify which film you were talking about??--Airborne88T|ZC|MI|E! 22:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Dammit. That was my trick. And you saw straight through it. Winner. Ill go make a prize. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! I assumed it was the original at first because I couldn't quite remember if Scott Reiniger was in the remake. --Airborne88T|ZC|MI|E! 22:39, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Dammit. That was my trick. And you saw straight through it. Winner. Ill go make a prize. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- (2004-remake)Ken Foree=Priest on TV ("when there is no more room in hell..)Tom Savini=The County Sheriff("she is a twitcher"), Scott Reiniger= Army General. Do I get extra credit because you didn't specify which film you were talking about??--Airborne88T|ZC|MI|E! 22:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Quiz 10
A man and a women travel through time. They discover a devastated world ruled by a clone of a dead child. The man fights himself in zombie form and loses his eyes. After returning to their present a castle is destroyed.
Who is the Man?
Guesses
Come on --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:04, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds like an episode of Dr.Who (?)--Airborne88T|Z.Quiz|PSS 12:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- When I saw the part of the man losing his eye, I immediately thought Xiahou Dun. So....Dynasty Warriors, zombie version? Yea, yea...there's no such thing... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 13:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Its not a film. Or an episode of Dr Who,or a game. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Quiz 11
Ok. What romero films have been remade, and in which years were the remakes?
Guesses
Easy. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Dawn of the Dead, 2004. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:24, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- And thats it is it? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Add in Dairy of the Dead, 2007. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Throw in Night of the Living Dead, 1990. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- And while you're at it, throw in Day of the Dead, 2008. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Throw in Night of the Living Dead, 1990. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Add in Dairy of the Dead, 2007. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- And thats it is it? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Eventually Yes. Winner.
Quiz 12
On the poster for land of the dead. How many zombies have appeared in other zombie films? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:14, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Guesses
Theres a couple!
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say 6. If not, then exactly which poster do you want? I found a few of them. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- and the names of these fine actors? And do bronzes quiz--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- Are you telling me to run out to Blockbuster's and rent the freakin' DVD? Cause I'm too lazy for that, you know... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:31, 12 April 2008 (BST)
2. Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright. Am I right?--Nallan (Talk) 14:49, 1 June 2008 (BST)
- Shit, circled the wrong ones. They're in there - I'll get a fixed pic up in a sec.--Nallan (Talk) 14:51, 1 June 2008 (BST)
- That's them in Land of the Dead. Here's them in the poster, correctly circled this time :P --Nallan (Talk) 14:56, 1 June 2008 (BST)
Although its not a complete answer. For instance, Tom Savini just over Edgars left Shoulder? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:29, 17 June 2008 (BST)
Quiz 13
Easy really. The following is a quote. Whats the Next Line?
- "Trouble?"
Guesses
Go!
"Where?!?" --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:32, 17 June 2008 (BST)
No where. I meant attempt to guess the answer, starting Now.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:34, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- And my answer is "Where"... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:44, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- Its 17 words.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:46, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- "Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego??!? She owes me two million dollars! Ah! A zombie horde!" --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:51, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- Please see your comment on your own elvis based quiz. Its also not. "Quick to the point to the point no faking I'm cooking MC's like a pound of bacon" --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:04, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- Just use my own comment against me, huh? Besides...this question is a little...vague... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:06, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- The answers on IMDB and everything. Im not giving a hint this early. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:08, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- How about: "How could I get into any more trouble than we have already?" --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:12, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- The answers on IMDB and everything. Im not giving a hint this early. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:08, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- Just use my own comment against me, huh? Besides...this question is a little...vague... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:06, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- Please see your comment on your own elvis based quiz. Its also not. "Quick to the point to the point no faking I'm cooking MC's like a pound of bacon" --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:04, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- "Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego??!? She owes me two million dollars! Ah! A zombie horde!" --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:51, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- Its 17 words.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:46, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- You got one word correct. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:15, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- Damn it... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:15, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- How about In a world where the dead are returning to life, the word "trouble" loses much of its meaning. --Pedentic 21:56, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- yay! 'Winner can't beat a bit of hopper. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:02, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- Wait...Are you saying the quote is like one of those quotes from that movie announcer guy? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:05, 18 June 2008 (BST)
- yay! 'Winner can't beat a bit of hopper. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:02, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- How about In a world where the dead are returning to life, the word "trouble" loses much of its meaning. --Pedentic 21:56, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- Damn it... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:15, 17 June 2008 (BST)
- no. Its an actual line from the film. land of the dead.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:01, 18 June 2008 (BST)
- Oh go *BLEEP* yourself. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:13, 18 June 2008 (BST)
Quiz 14
Here's a hard one. What are the character names of the first zombie seen in
- Night
- Dawn
- And Day
--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:41, 21 July 2008 (BST)
Guesses
Commence!
In Dawn, it's the little girl with the rollerskates, right? --JaredTalk SPA CK 22:09, 26 July 2008 (BST)
- Dammit I forgot about the other dawn! If you know her name then a bonus cookie. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:35, 31 July 2008 (BST)
In night it's the guy at the cemetery when barabara's brother goes "They're coming to get you Barbara!", but I don't know his name. Also, the only zombie name I can remember from Day is Bub, but I don't think he's the first zombie you see. The first they see are when they are in that empty town and after a few minutes hundreds of zombies all come outside. Anyway, am I right on either of those? Do I need the guy's name from night? I mean I don't think it's given (although I've only seen each version of night once).--Nallan (Talk) 06:27, 1 August 2008 (BST)
The name of the little girl in the new Dawn is Vivian. Do I get a cookie?--JaredTalk Aces C-Kids 00:43, 6 August 2008 (BST)
- No. You get an individually crafted prize. soon. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:26, 9 August 2008 (BST)
Francine (DawnotD 1978), Vivian (DawnotD 2004), Sarah (DayotD), Barbara (NotLD) --Matt Aries 11:11, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
THIS QUIZ NEEDS AN EPIC ZOMBIELAND QUESTION!!! =D --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 11:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
It will, if anyone ever gets this right. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:28, 3 July 2010 (BST)
- "Night of the Living Dead"'s first zombie doesn't have a name, per se, as Bill Hinzman is just credited as Cemetary Zombie. 20:05, 6 July 2010 (BST)
Quiz 15
Whats this? --Rosslessness 21:38, 10 June 2011 (BST)
Guesses
My guess is that you forgot to put on a question. :p --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 20:48, 10 June 2011 (BST)
Large Hadron Collider or a train. -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:47, 10 June 2011 (BST)
- My favourite Samuel L Jackson Film. Clue. Its a PC Game. --Rosslessness 22:06, 10 June 2011 (BST)