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:::::My dear fellow, all my characters are listed on my userpage. It says "Characters" --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  13:20, 8 April 2012 (BST)
:::::My dear fellow, all my characters are listed on my userpage. It says "Characters" --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  13:20, 8 April 2012 (BST)
::::::Oh alright. I've seen you before ingame. {{User:Generaloberst/s}} 13:23, 8 April 2012 (BST)
::::::Oh alright. I've seen you before ingame. {{User:Generaloberst/s}} 13:23, 8 April 2012 (BST)
:::::::Of course.--[[User:Rosslessness|Ross<sup>less</sup>ness]]  12:14, 14 April 2012 (BST)


== Arbitration ==
== Arbitration ==

Revision as of 11:14, 14 April 2012

Hail! My name is Generaloberst. I am a member of the group Nazi Zombies, led by the most notorious nazi - and perhaps the most notorious individual - in all of Malton. Cornholioo.


Netherlands flag.png FUCK YOU! CANCER MONGOL!
This user speaks Dutch on a native level


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This user speaks English on a fluent level


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This user speaks German on an intermediate level


File:800px-Flag of France svg.png Tu parles Français?
This user speaks French on an intermediate level


File:Spqrbanner.jpg Magister dixit.
Yes you read that well, I also speak Latin on an intermediate level


File:300f.jpg σκοτώνουν τους Πέρσες!
I also studied Old-Greek for 2 years, which I speak on beginner level.


File:Tumblr lrizx8j2pZ1qcytdro1 500 - kopie.jpg Nordmenn! Kjemp for Norge!
Now studying Norwegian

User:Generaloberst/s

DRAW, PILGRIM!

At noon. On Main Street in front of the saloon. Don't forget your pine box. -- Spiderzed 11:21, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh, it's on now! User:Generaloberst/s 11:23, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

You need to check your history books again...

Generaloberst said:
*Whites gain strength out of the snow (in WW2 the Germans were the most successful when there was snow - for example in the Battle of the Bulge and the Battle of Stalingrad)

...or buy a new one. Both Battle of the Bulge and Battle of Stalingrad were decisive defeats for the Germans. Sure, you can say they had fewer casualties, but defeats are defeats nonetheless. Claiming that Germans were the most successful when there was snow is also ridiculous; it is well agreed that Germany lost the Soviet Campaign because they failed to take Moscow before the infamous "Russian Winter" set in, freezing their tanks and killing their troops. -- Kittithaj 09:03, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

The heroic Germanic spirit of the German soldier revealed itself at its most in Stalingrad and during the Battle of the Bulge. On those two fronts the most massive battles took place and the biggest amount of people died. That they were defeated at the end was only the fault of their limited supplies and some other blunders that Hitler had made. User:Generaloberst/s 14:52, 28 December 2011
Like invading Russia before consolidating his other victories. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 15:33, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I also think it wasn't exactly a good move by Italy to start a campaign in Africa. But I hope that I've made my point clear. User:Generaloberst/s 23:46, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey

Eliminatedjuice.jpg

he wins Love,

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Emot-argh.gif 05:36, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

It's kinda funny to watch you spamming my page with a bunch of posts and pictures to elicit some kind of reaction. Only to fail miserably. User:Generaloberst/s 17:10, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
oh the irony DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:41, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Irony? Come on DDR. You know that this guy was just posting all of this spam here so that people would think he is cool. I got over that after I got out of puberty. I'll save this convo though, as a tribute to the wikihipsters. <3 User:Generaloberst/s 11:11, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Irony you say? -- Emot-argh.gif 23:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Like I already explained, I found a loop in the wiki rules. I knew I was gonna get warned though. So, to prove how biased the sysops of this wiki actually are, I exploited the loop. Exploiting a loop you find is not hipstering. No, emotions don't cloud my actions. Emotion is caused by chemical reactions in your brain. Only the most well-developed humans are able to ignore those chemical reactions. Sadly, most people, about 89% per cent of the White population (even more on other races), are not even willing to preform any research, and thus will never be able to think this far, that's what we call ignorance. The 11% that is left of the population delivers the people that will lead a society to glory. Alexander the Great, Leonidas, Julius Caesar, Octavian, Hadrian, Trajan, Napoleon Bonaparte, Adolf Hitler, etc. Notice how they're all White, and the ones I marked bold have a Nordic appearance as well.
"But there is a taint worse than all taints,--ignorance is the greatest taint. O mendicants! throw off that taint, and become taintless!" - CHAPTER XVIII IMPURITY 243.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect and self-respect is the chief element in courage. - Thucydides
"You must be peaceable and courageous at the same time!" - Adolf Hitler
So much for a lesson on how this world works. User:Generaloberst/s 13:23, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Dude, I don't know if you know this, but Octavian was afro-Caribbean...--Shortround 13:58, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't know if you're trolling or not. But I don't mind to elaborate.
File:Octavian.jpg
This is Octavian (click to enlarge).
In this picture you can see that Octavian had a pointy nose, thin lips, a long-formed skull, wavy hair. He was about 5'7" tall (170cm) which is also average for Nordic people in the 1st century. I don't know about his eye and hair color, but his body characteristics were certainly Nordic. Nordic people usually have blue or green eyes and a light hair color (blonde, brown, red). User:Generaloberst/s 14:16, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Whoops! Sorry, that was a typo, I meant Hadrian.--Shortround 17:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
That's no problem Mr. Troll. For Hadrian goes the same thing. User:Generaloberst/s 18:46, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Hadrian was born in Birmingham, England, the son of Jamaican immigrants Monica, a medical secretary, and Reginald, a manager for a contract cleaning company ? --Shortround 21:25, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
....I hate to burst your bubble but Alexander the Great was gay... as well as conflicting reports on Hitler as well however no one close to him lived to really tell of it -- Emot-argh.gif 23:45, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
And what has being gay to do with it? There are reports that say Hitler was gay, a Jew, a drugabuser, a pedophile, a urophile, a muslim and that he had one testicle. That's what you call sewer journalism. It's what happens to all 'celebrities'. User:Generaloberst/s 00:04, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
So Hitler was a Jew and that came from your own writing. Thanks for saying it. -- Emot-argh.gif 23:51, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
Don't you really have anything better to do than this? User:Generaloberst/s 04:07, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
To what exactly? Take 5-10 minutes to check UD, hop on the wiki in a separate tab, check a forum or two and then hop off? How about you, must be pretty lonely to cheat at an online game there cornhole not to mention your attempting to push your racial beliefs in an online game with a solid and established community that already banned you once :P -- Emot-argh.gif 05:37, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't cheat in a game. I'm not even active ingame at the moment. And if I were, where's your evidence? You have none. Bye. I think I've got all right to keep this attitude. And do you know why? Because I have achieved something in my life. And what the fuck are you doing with your life, other than hipstering around on this wiki, posting 'cool' pictures on a nazi's page for a week now? User:Generaloberst/s 13:54, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
BUSTED BIG TIME YEA BUDDY! Which by the way I'm pretty sure I've used this argument right here to have DDR ban someone back when he had powers.Love,

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Emot-argh.gif 16:25, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

So I was active on Urban Dead around the same time that corn was on. How does that prove we are the same person? You proved that we were online at the same time, that is all. You have no evidence. Bye. User:Generaloberst/s 18:27, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
edit/ You didn't even prove that we were online at the same time. The screenshot shows no time, except from "x minutes ago". It could've been taken at a complete differend time than the moment that I edited the wiki. You could even link to the post I'm placing right now and then claim we were online at the same time... So congratz, you've managed to get hold of a picture that shows corn and rundstedt attacking a building... This makes no sense, you're kinda making a fool of yourself. User:Generaloberst/s 18:38, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Does it upset you that Michael Cera and Hitlers mom look like the same person? -- Emot-argh.gif 01:00, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Where are you guys?

Wandering through pitneybank I cant find you guys! And you seem to have dropped off the stats pages. What gives? --Like Moss and The Dude..... 03:15, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

We got bored. There's no one strong enough in Malton to face us, so the only goal we have to destroy everyone. But that is impossible given the present amount of players in UD. Maybe later on we will decise to end the game. The fate of Malton is basically in Nazi hands. Are you Fascist Italian by the way? User:Generaloberst/s 3:47, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Excellent to hear. I therefore declare victory under the criteria we already discussed. I look forward to tussling with you and coorn again. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 10:35, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Victory in what battle? Funny to hear that you are Fascist Italian. I'm especially curious for what will happen when the number of active players drops under 10,000, when there will be an awful lot of ungarissoned squares. Probably we'll be back by that time. User:Generaloberst/s 14:00, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
To outlast my opponent, to leave an area in better condition than when I arrived, to orchestrate better cooperation between those you leave behind, the construction of sensible spawn points, a good game of twister. Remember? We had this discussion during your lovely Dakerstown soiree. Is a sensible set of criteria, as opposed to say, "annihilate all of mankind in Malton". The real balancing point will most likely be about 6000. Sorry to hear you're all inactive. I'll get the wiki stuff updated for you. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 23:21, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I recall those are your words Ross, not mine. We are not quiting the game, we are simply waiting for a better time to strike. The battle is not over, and will not be over, until I fly the swastika flag over my body or over a race that I believe in. User:Generaloberst/s 23:25, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
They are my words indeed. Apart from the "Annihilate....." Quote. I just copied that off National Socialist States of Malton. Congrats on the de-escalation. Let me know when you return. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 16:45, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

UDWiki:News...

...is for wiki news only, not in-game stuff. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:10, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

So is Template:Wiki News. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:12, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
What you're looking for is Template:Community Projects. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:15, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Hmm, I thought stuff like Mall tours have been on that page too? Anyway, it's done. User:Generaloberst/s 10:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

mdcclxxvi

Um....Just so you know- mdcclxxvi= 1776. I realize the internet can be a confusing place full of really strange ideas- but M is 1000, D is 500, C is 100, L is 50, X is 10, V is 5 and I is 1 - so rather than some esoteric secret message of "666", what we have on the dollar bill is 1776, the year the Declaration of Independence was signed in the fledgeling United States. Furthermore, the idea that Deists would be making biblical references regarding "the number of the beast" is just specious- they did not believe in magic fairy tale boogeymen. Ecrazsez l'infame! --Belisarius17 01:26, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

As I said on the page, rulers of states love to create this kind of confusion. Yes indeed, MDCCLXXVI does mean 1776. However, it means 666 at the same time. It's an encrypted message. A lot of stuff is encrypted. You actually see encrypted stuff every 5 minutes. It's the knowledge that our ancestors had, which has been deformed by Jews. I've explained on this page already that people like Caesar August were Nordic. The same thing goes for the pharaoh's in Egypt. The upper class of Egypt used to be White. Do you honestly think it's coincidence that the pyramids existed in America too? Whites were first inhabitants of America. Whites were there before the "Native-Americans" were. And it's beautiful to see that also science is on our side to prove the wisdom of our ancestors. Unfortunately, all those white people have been killed by the bloodthirsty "Native-Americans". For that reason I hate "Native-Americans". At least I hate "Native-Americas" that lived and live in what is now the USA. I don't hate the Maya's. Because the Maya's left the White people alive. Also in Mexico White people would be the upper class of society (and they build the pyramids too). In fact, when Columbus got in America there were still White people living there. The encrypted messages in this world are uncountable it's very fascinating and almost mysterious. I personally have knowledge of 7 languages but there is one language in particular that fascinates me. Sanskrit. Do you have any idea why the word 'house' in Sanskrit is translated as 'sadana'? Take a moment to think what the word 'sadana' looks like before you read on.
Now the missing link that I'm giving you. Is that in Germanic languages like Dutch, the word 'house' is very similar to the word 'god'. A word for 'house' in Dutch is 'kot'. When I talk to Americans, they always say the g like a k. Try saying the t with your tongue, then try saying the d, it's almost the exact same move. God can very easily transform into kot or vice versa. Take another moment for that to sink in until I give you the final link of information.
Houses are actually bloodlines. 'The House of Orange-Nassau' for example. Many other 'houses' like that exist. Our bloodline is actually our god, our religion. That is what makes National Socialism a religion and an ideology at the same time. There is not so much difference between. Of course our ancestors did not really think that God was a creature floating in the sky. We should be ashamed that we honestly thought they were that stupid. Do you still think it's completely coincidence that in Sanskrit house is translated as sadana? Do you have any idea why in Islam the word Allah looks so much like Alles (Dutch: everything), and Koran (Quran) like Kern (Core)? Sometimes, when things are very often coincidence, you come at a point where maybe there is a connection. Your brain is designed to find patterns. It is your choice to ignore those patterns or open yourself to them. As I've said already, a world will open for you. Hail the White race! User:Generaloberst/s 2:22, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned Images

File:Stalingrad-1.jpg which you uploaded is currently unused and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--A Helpful Little Bot 17:34, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Pitneybank.png which you uploaded is currently unused and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--A Helpful Little Bot 17:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

File:WWII Nazi Propaganda - Waffen-SS.jpg which you uploaded is currently unused and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--A Helpful Little Bot 17:43, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Hitler rally steps+large.jpg which you uploaded is currently unused and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--A Helpful Little Bot 17:43, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Is there a way I can delete pictures that I don't use anymore myself? User:Generaloberst/s 11:47, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Krinks

You're wasting your time. You were just better off parachuting inside and piñata-ing. Place is dead empty. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 13:01, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Like other places in Malton are actually crowded... When I started playing Urban Dead as a survivor I actually moved AROUND places that were red. Now the number of players is cut in half, and I simply move in a straight line. :/ User:Generaloberst/s 13:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
And we haven't actually attacked Krinks yet. NTs are priority. Don't like mopping the floor with a crane wide open. User:Generaloberst/s 13:44, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Regarding that last case

I just figured I'd chime in here rather than there so that you know where I'm coming from. I clearly don't speak for the sysops since I'm no longer one.

"Rules" posted on mainspace pages are generally not enforceable, so since he didn't break any actual rules I would consider this a difference of opinion in that you believe your group should be listed and he apparently does not (though I think your opinion would rightfully have much more sway in this matter). He may have a good reason that we don't know (e.g. perhaps he mistakenly believed your group to have disbanded?). Even if he did as you said and merely saw the building in-game and removed you from the list, it would still be a mistake on his part (call it "stupidity" if you like), rather than an act of bad faith/vandalism.

As for where the line is drawn, there is indeed a line between a mistake and vandalism, but general stupidity is not considered vandalism in and of itself, unless we have every reason to believe that the person knew better. Since we're to assume good faith unless given reason to believe otherwise, the preferred approach is to simply revert the edit and assume it was a mistake. If they repeat their edit, you should then contact them and ask for clarification on the matter, again, assuming that they may believe they have a valid reason to do what they are doing in good faith. If, after contacting them and providing reasons for why you believe your revision should stay and theirs should not they then continue to make the edit, you should take them to A/A. The arbitrator can then hand down a ruling that can be enforced via A/VB.

There are some exceptions along the way, of course (e.g. "owned" pages, such as group pages, are off-limits for the most part), but that's the course of action you should have followed for this particular case, given the circumstances and the information involved. Automatically assuming bad faith is considered poor form, which is part of why you're receiving so much resistance. Wikis are built around the idea of mutual assistance, and they work best when people work together. Wikinewbs frequently, frequently make mistakes, and those mistakes should be recognized for what they are (harmless), pointed out (so that the person understands what they did that was wrong), and corrected (so that they see an example of how things are supposed to be done), rather than being punished, that way the person is encouraged to engage in beneficial behavior. Since this person has a grand total of four edits, it wouldn't surprise me if it really was a mistake of some sort. That said, given the controversial nature of your group, it wouldn't surprise me if it was intentional either. But because we're to assume good faith, I assume the former for now, rather than the latter, and I give that same courtesy to everyone. Aichon 04:47, 5 April 2012 (BST)

I perfectly understand what you are trying to say but it just doesn't fit. The Malton's End page already stated only to update your own group. So let it be clear that he was able to know he shouldn't edit other people's group.
If you then say that "rules posted on mainspace pages are generally not enforceable", we get at the point where we have to decide whether this was done deliberately or plain stupidity. Seen that the page also stated the strike would occur later, which he had not read or understood, I'd call it stupidity. As for the verdict, do we rule that as vandalism or not? When Corn did some things you would consider newb mistakes he was warned and even banned as well. You could say that those two are 'owned' pages, but if you are consequent you would consider those newb mistake nonetheless. Also, Corn was never taken to A/A for them. When the Colonel did the same thing however, it was considered a newb mistake. I can see that you voted vandalism in that case, but it was ruled as not vandalism nonetheless. Do you understand now why I think they are biased? When the sysops have to make some kind of decision in cases where it's impossible to draw a hard line, the outcome is almost always in my disfavor. I don't see how that is not bias, and I've known this for a very long time. I already knew before I joined the wiki.
And honestly, sometimes I use it in my favor. For example when there are vote rounds going on, I deliberately vote the exact opposite of what I want, to get what I want. Bias is human nature and that can be exploited. For example, I did it here. User:Generaloberst/s 14:14, 5 April 2012 (BST)
You said it yourself in the 'crat elections. "I trust Axe Hack as neutral at all times and an active member of this wiki". So I've looked over those cases and from what I can tell, Corny's edit was made in bad faith. Seeing his contribs from that time, he knew if he had something he wanted to say, he should put it on the talk page. Dropping someone else's personal information on the wiki is also a violation of that person's privacy. The Colonel's edit was a good faith edit in an attempt to make a status report more truthful. Let it be known, the SysOps you deemed as "neutral at all times" have spoken. The evidence at hand does not sway me in your favor, sorry. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:38, 5 April 2012 (BST)
I don't say things for no reason. When I said that I trusted you as neutral at all times, I had looked through history of cases you had treated over at A/VB. That's why I said I was convinced that you were neutral. I'm starting get to my doubts now, though. The second link in which Corn deleted a picture is debatable, though if you really are neutral then you would see that corn changed the word 'shameful' into 'rightful' because he didn't know it was not allowed. Colonel at the other hand had been a member of the wiki for over a year. He should have known better. I don't exactly dislike you Axe Hack, but with comments like these you lose points with me. User:Generaloberst/s 18:49, 5 April 2012 (BST)
Even if everything that you're saying is true (and it doesn't look like it is), it would be best to drop this. If everybody is biased then acting up is just going to cause more problems for you and if they aren't biased then you're over-reacting for no reason. They've ruled on the case now and it isn't going to change, so just drop it, chill out and get back to playing the game. :) --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 19:02, 5 April 2012 (BST)
And your mentality is exactly why Jews still run this country, kid. With an attitude like yours you might as well hang yourself. User:Generaloberst/s 19:09, 5 April 2012 (BST)
OK, the case of Corn changing Shameful to Rightful linked to this diff. What you however missed was that Corn made two edits to the page. Go ahead. Go back one edit. He did much more to the page. Clearly a bad faith edit. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:20, 5 April 2012 (BST)
Hadn't seen that, thanks. I agree that it puts another light on the situation. I'm neutral now. Though it doesn't justify what the Colonel did. He had been active on the wiki for over a year, then edited Corn's post. There is no excuse for that. So if you ask me it's still bias. User:Generaloberst/s 19:41, 5 April 2012 (BST)
The page doesn't say you can only update your own group, so he may believe the omission allows for editing other groups. Or he may have simply skimmed the text and not seen it, which is also pretty common. Again, we must assume good faith unless given reason to believe otherwise, and stupidity/mistakes are generally not vandalism until the person knows better, which we have no evidence of here.
Regarding Corn, as has been pointed out, he acted in obvious bad faith in the first case, so his lack of knowledge regarding page ownership never really mattered. Regarding the second case, he knew about ownership at that point and admitted he removed it because he saw it as an attack against him, which is not a valid reason for removing comments from another user's talk page. Again, it was bad faith in that it was undoing a clearly intended action in a space that belonged to another user for reasons that were personal.
As for bias, there are some complicating factors in play. The sysops have a responsibility to protect the wiki by enforcing the host's Terms of Use, including the hate speech provisions, but the TOU exist outside of wiki policy, so that tends to be untested water. As a result, cases sometimes take different turns than typical ones. That's part of the difficulty with the TOU, and since you guys are in that area, you find yourselves landing in that quagmire fairly often.
You've also made it clear that you do things to make a point. When you make an edit to make a point, you're essentially admitting that you're aware of what you're doing and are choosing to do so anyway. As a result, actions that might have been excusable as mistakes are instead known to be deliberate and are handled accordingly.
There is bias in the sysop team, but there's no way you can get around it entirely, and attempting to make large demonstrations merely harms the wiki as a whole. Plus, most of the legitimate examples I've seen are in attitudes rather than actions (i.e. so long as it's not affecting their work, they're entitled to their opinions just as anyone else is). The best way to address bias that you believe is harmful is by convincing others to voice an opinion against those sysops at re-evaluation time. Aichon 23:09, 5 April 2012 (BST)
Alright Aichon, you've convinced me. I will assume it's not bad faith and so not vandalism. Though I still find it completely idiotic from his side to miss the complete intend of a page and then start editing it.
I'm curious what, in your opinion, is bias in the sysop team. In actions. You said that "most" of the legitimate examples you've seen are in attitudes. Can you give me some examples of actions that are bias?
I don't think trying to convince others is going to change a thing. As soon as the team notices that's what I'm doing they can easily work me out of this wiki, even if I could convince "the people", which is going to be hard. This wiki is still a democracy for the most part, sadly, which is why we have a biased sysop team now in the first place. User:Generaloberst/s 0:42, 6 April 2012 (BST)
If anyone could do it it would be aichon. good work aich ol buddy DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:29, 6 April 2012 (BST)
The wiki works best when we seek to help and understand each other. I was bored at work, stumbled on the VB discussion, and realized I had more to say but didn't want to put it all on A/VB since I shouldn't be commenting there. I'm just glad to help explain the other side. :) Aichon 03:11, 6 April 2012 (BST)
Regarding biased actions, I'd cite my own actions with regards to Corn. I strive to act in an unbiased manner, but from time to time I don't give the same thought and consideration to some users as to others. Corn was a victim of that when I permabanned him in a manner that was contrary to policy. Admittedly, it was a mistake on my part, but it was a mistake that resulted from my failure to double check policy, which is something that I always tried to do when it came to banning. I didn't do it there because I allowed myself to become lazy while dealing with someone who I felt deserved to be banned. That was the wrong attitude to have, and it did impact my work as a sysop. Banning people early was actually a recurring theme with me. Aichon 03:11, 6 April 2012 (BST)
You could pretty much cite how every sysop dealt with Corn on regular occasions. I always considered myself better at handling the bias but I doubt in effect I treated him any better than the other ops DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:18, 6 April 2012 (BST)
Generaloberst said:
You're just pissed that I got mis demoted and made fun of vapor's demotion. :D

Thought I'd stop by with a quick comment about this. Mis was demoted because he wanted to be demoted. He was less than a week away from being demoted automatically due to inactivity. When his A/RE came up, he swung by to confirm that he was uninterested in remaining a sysop, but that was just a formality. And taunting Ross with that statement makes about as much sense as a farmer taunting God by suggesting that he "got" the weather to go his way. Ross and boxy (i.e. the wiki's two Bureaucrats who control promotions and demotions) chose to demote Mis. Their hands weren't forced by anyone except Mis. Aichon 19:56, 13 April 2012 (BST)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHH IS OBERST SERIOUS DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:14, 14 April 2012 (BST)
Where did Vapor say he wanted to be demoted? He got demoted because everyone, including myself, voted against. We (including myself) forced Ross and boxy. Boxy tried to make the case last as long as possible but eventually realized he didn't have a choice. Decisive Nazi victory. User:Generaloberst/s 8:45, 14 April 2012 (BST)
It does break my heart a little whenever you call it a vote. --Rosslessness 12:13, 14 April 2012 (BST)

Danger reports

I know you're eager to update the blighters, but when you update one, its then changed to say its been reclaimed, and then 2 hours later you change it back to show its ruined, you should really re ruin it. I got really worried you had retaken the Pursey building again. Turns out I am still alive.--Rosslessness 12:45, 8 April 2012 (BST)

So you are James? User:Generaloberst/s 12:54, 8 April 2012 (BST)
Oh and sorry about the change by the way. Started changing, found my internet connection too slow, gave up, and tried 2 hours later. Then thought I forgot changing it and didn't check the history of the page. User:Generaloberst/s 12:56, 8 April 2012 (BST)
James? Who is James?. You doing living pinatas again? --Rosslessness 13:02, 8 April 2012 (BST)
Never mind then. What's your ingame name? And no. User:Generaloberst/s 13:10, 8 Apri 2012 (BST)
My dear fellow, all my characters are listed on my userpage. It says "Characters" --Rosslessness 13:20, 8 April 2012 (BST)
Oh alright. I've seen you before ingame. User:Generaloberst/s 13:23, 8 April 2012 (BST)
Of course.--Rosslessness 12:14, 14 April 2012 (BST)

Arbitration

It has begun. -- Spiderzed 11:59, 11 April 2012 (BST)

National Socialist States of Malton

Hey, I'm putting in a move request on your page to go under the Nazi Zombies namespace. Although it formerly represented an alliance between you guys and Italian Fascist Zombies it no longer does because NZ are now the only members. Its current use seems much more in line as a news page / organisational structure for the group and if it has that function it should really be in the NZ namespace. One thing I suggested on the move request page was that it could be made as a page to detail the historical alliance between the two groups who originally formed it, in which case it could stay in the mainspace, but in my opinion if it continues as it is it should probably be moved. Obviously your input on this is appreciated.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 15:14, 12 April 2012 (BST)

hands off

Hands off mah a/vb ruling, foo. ~Vsig.png 17:43, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Right, now sorted out the page, to correct the double revert fuckup. Make sure I haven't deleted any comments. --Rosslessness 17:51, 13 April 2012 (BST)