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Developing Suggestions

This section is for general discussion of suggestions for the game Urban Dead.

It also includes the capacity to pitch suggestions for conversation and feedback.

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• Discussion concerning this page takes place here.
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Resources

• The Frequently Suggested List
• Suggestions Dos and Do Nots

How To Make a Discussion

Adding a New Discussion

To add a general discussion topic, please add a Tier 3 Header (===Example===) below, with your idea or proposal.

Adding a New Suggestion

• To add a new suggestion proposal, copy the code in the box below.
• Click here to begin editing. This is the same as clicking the [edit] link to the right of the Suggestions header.

• Paste the copied text above the other suggestions, right under the heading.
• Substitute the text in RED CAPITALS with the details of your suggestion.
• The process is illustrated in this image.

{{subst:DevelopingSuggestion
|time=~~~~
|name=SUGGESTION NAME
|type=TYPE HERE
|scope=SCOPE HERE
|description=DESCRIPTION HERE
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• Name - Give the suggestion a short but descriptive name.
• Type is the nature of the suggestion, such as a new class, skill change, balance change.
• Scope is who or what the suggestion affects. Typically survivors or zombies (or both), but occasionally Malton, the game interface or something else.
• Description should be a full explanation of your suggestion. Include information like flavor text, search odds, hit percentages, etc, as appropriate. Unless you are as yet unsure of the exact details behind the suggestion, try not to leave out anything important. Check your spelling and grammar.

Cycling Suggestions

• Suggestions with no new discussion in the past month may be cycled without notice.

Please add new discussions and suggestions to the top of the list

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Suggestions

Moonwalk

Timestamp: Kamikazie-Bunny 21:24, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Type: Fun!

Scope: Zombies

Description: Zombies can now purchase the ability Moonwalk for 100XP (a sub-skill of lurching gait), doing so gives them the ability to Dance(2AP) the effect depends on whether the zombie is indoors or outdoors. If indoors the zombie exits the building and any players present in the building receive the message: A zombie moonwalked out the building. If outdoors the zombie moves one square in a random direction and any players present (in the original square) receive the message: A zombie moonwalked (Direction) In both cases clicking "A zombie" will provide a link to the players profile.

Discussion (Moonwalk)

What if the zombie is in a barricaded building (e.g. above VSB)? It seems unlikely they'd be able to moonwalk out. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 21:46, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Zombies can still exit VSB+ by clicking on an adjacent building resulting in the same AP cost as leaving and returning to the building exterior with no significant difference. Kamikazie-Bunny 14:48, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

So, in a VSB, are they exiting and moving a block away, as per what they can do now, or simply exiting, which they cannot currently do? —Aichon— 22:05, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Should be an entire skill tree of its own. Dance is the first branch of the tree. From there, you can purchase Moonwalk, Running Man, Cabbage Patch and The Sprinkler. Also, zombie can only dance in tight circles. None of this dancing straight out of a building business. Let's not be ridiculous here. ~ _{23:31, 18 December 2013 (UTC)}

Pfft, who's being ridiculous here? Moonwalking actually makes sense in zombie lore (see: Michael Jackson, well known as a zombie both in Thriller and in Plants vs. Zombies (before they had to change the artwork when they almost got sued for using his likeness)). Cabbage Patch? Sprinkler? Running Man? Stick to the lore, man. —Aichon— 15:18, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

AFAIK, MJ didn't moonwalk during Thriller, so it is as much not a part of Zombie lore as other late 80s and early 90s popular dance moves. If you want to keep it realistic, make it The Macarena, Gangam Style and Call Me Maybe, since everyone using those moves were pretty acting like brainless zombies. Oh and throw in twerking for good measure. ~ _{07:05, 21 December 2013 (UTC)}

He moonwalked in Plants vs. Zombies as a zombie. Those other moves have no connection at all to zombie lore. :P —Aichon— 07:19, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Bro, have you SEEN twerk? ~ _{15:30, 21 December 2013 (UTC)}

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Wander (Zombie Auto-horde)

Timestamp: Kamikazie-Bunny 01:43, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Type: New Movement Method

Scope: Zombies

Description: All zombies now have the ability to Roam randomly around Malton when outside. Roaming moves the zombie one square in a random direction and costs the usual movement AP. Sounds pointless? Well, while the direction is random there is a 65% chance that the zombie will move in the direction of the location currently contain the most zombies in Malton (most = active zombies, indoors + outdoors). If by some chance they're there already they'll just move in a random direction. Though it may be AP inefficient it does offer a somewhat reliable method for zombies (especially those with no idea where they're going) to hoard-up without the need to meta.

Discussion (Wander (Zombie Auto-horde))

Uncontrolled movement is a no-no, as it may force players into triggering zerg flags without being aware of it (especially if they are away for an extended period such as work or sleep). There is also already a mechanic that helps to find the current zombie hot-spots - Scent Death. I'd rather want to see something that provides better information for the player to act on (such as Scent Death with extended range), rather than something that triggers automatic action. -- Spiderzed█ 06:25, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

If I'm understanding this correctly, your first concern doesn't apply because the Roam action would simply use one AP and move the zombie one square. (It could be clicked, therefore, 50 times, moving 50 squares.) If a player were moving towards another alt they could always move away, and no action would be taken while a player wasn't online. That said, I do prefer an improved scent death over this suggestion. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 00:00, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

I actually like the subtle approach this suggestion takes in trying to solve a core issue with the game as the population shrinks, but I think it ends up having some fundamental mechanical problems, as well as being ripe for abuse. Here are some issues I see that haven't already been mentioned:

• What if multiple blocks are tied for having the most zombies? If they randomly Roam towards either/all of them, doesn't that defeat the whole point, since they won't be heading towards a fixed location?
• Hordes tend to stay apart from each other, and they alternate between spreading thin as they change suburbs and clumping up as they settle into them. As such, Roam may alternate between taking me towards the MOB one day and the RRF on the next, over and over again, meaning that "gains" I make are negated the next day when Roam takes me the opposite direction.
• What's to stop a zerger from making 100 accounts and parking them at the same block in order to attract Roaming ferals towards a place they want to see ruined?

As I've said before, suggestions should make the game more fun, but this one adds an AP sink that provides minimal benefit and would leave the zombie with no AP to spend on the fun activities of the game if they were to utilize this skill the way it would need to be used to be useful. I'm sincere in my statement that I like the approach you're taking with this idea, but it needs some tweaking (unfortunately, I have no immediate recommendations) before it'd work. —Aichon— 02:26, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

How about making it select the suburb with the highest active zombie population and boosting the chance to head the right direction to something higher? It'll greatly reduce the chance of zerg abuse and confusion between two groups and should leave the player more AP to spare. Kamikazie-Bunny 21:31, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

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Suggestions up for voting

The following are suggestions that were developed here but have since gone to voting. The discussions that were taking place here have been moved to the pages linked below.

none currently