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== + ==
I like that template of yours.It really shows how protective the gnome can be.
[[User:Anetheron|Anetheron]] 04:02, 2 July 2008 (BST)
<small>Hehe</small>
== + ==
Heh, this + thing is really cool. I have never noticed it before.--[[User:Thekooks|KOOKY]] 16:00, 7 June 2008 (BST)
:It's quite useful, yep. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 16:26, 7 June 2008 (BST)
::Indeed it is.  By the way, Gnome, this is for you:
{{Gnome|Axe Hack}}
What?  You think I don't know you have spies spying on me? (+1) ----{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 14:49, 8 June 2008 (BST) And don't try me with that knife.  I'm wearing full body armor.  And it's very difficult to walk in this... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 14:51, 8 June 2008 (BST)
:I will bludgeon your knee, then. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:11, 9 June 2008 (BST)
==Templates Templates Everywhere and Not A Drop to Drink==
{{ahlg}}
I'm on a template making spree, and you've just become the next casualty in my mad quest to play on names for as many people as I can think of. Enjoy! --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 21:52, 25 June 2008 (BST)
Please go to http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Deletions and vote Keep so that the Grimch doesn't try to delete the template I made for you (and others). Thank you. --[[User:Tselita|Tselita]] 13:17, 27 June 2008 (BST)
:I would, but I don't know how to scroll down the edit window on my iPod. {{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:01, 1 July 2008 (BST)
===Speaking of which===
I have returned to make the rounds on the Templates that I put in place for [[Project Welcome]]. I already chewed out [[User:Krazy Monkey|Cheese]] for dicking with the <nowiki>{{WN}}</nowiki> template, and so I have come to shower praise upon you for locking the <nowiki>{{WN?}}</nowiki> template. Good job. --{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 21:51, 12 July 2008 (BST)
== lolwut? ==
let me see... you agree that the precedence is silly, you agree that its not misconduct, you even agree that this is an even more complicated case than mine... yet you dont think its needed to overule the darn precedence ? You like having your hands tied as you do your job gnome? you like the drama that will be created in future cases where both my precedence and nubis precedence (that its gonna be created if this is simply ruled not misconduct) are cited, and the side with the most vitrol opinion will have his way ? --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] - [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 02:20, 8 June 2008 (BST)
:I don't think it's appropiate to overrule the last case, unless that's not what you meant. Having this as not misconduct creates the new precedence, no? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:22, 8 June 2008 (BST)
::No, because you are then agreeing with karek that protecting images is not the same as protecting pages, which then means its not the same thing, which means that both my cases and nubis case can be used in the future as precedence to misconduct other sysops. I wont force you to vote my way or another, but my previous case ruling was ridiculous and this case just proves it.  --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] - [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 02:31, 8 June 2008 (BST)
:::I will get back to you on that... --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:38, 9 June 2008 (BST)
:The two precedences match up perfectly fine Hagnat, you're creating drama now, requesting an impossible task, for whatever reason I do not know, but it seems to me like you're just trying to vent at people you think are responsible for your misconduct archive and are using Nubis' case as an excuse to do it. Your case was barely ruled misconduct anyway, look back over the rulings and the discussion from the sysops involved, the deciding factors were the number of pages, the viability of doing it the proper way, and your past with circumventing procedures.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:29, 8 June 2008 (BST)
::i already explaned my reasons in the misconduct case. My case was barely ruled misconduct, yet grim and others are using this and several other small cases he created as reason to get my demotion. If it's a silly precedence, if its a barely reach ruling, and if people dont want to enforce it on similar cases, then why have it first place ? Overule the case based on its pettynes, and no more sysops will have to fear when they protect pages. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] - [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 02:37, 8 June 2008 (BST)
== reporting harassment in the wiki. ==
I would like to complain about a case of harassment. Since I'm not very practical with the use of UD Wiki I may be mistaken in reporting here but I hope you can help me nonetheless.
I deleted the harassing from my user talk, but who did it, namely user Dhavid Grohl, has filled his own talk with it, too. He goes on calling me a zerger, and what's most disturbing me a rapist. I don't think this wiki is the place for this sort of abuse even if it were true. He is harassing me in the brainstock forums and in game too, and I would like something to be done about him. I'm fed up with being persecuted and repetitively abused and harassed by him.
Thank you for your interest and any help you can provide.
Regards
Hikari Kisugi.
:Well, if it is any consolation he is tangling with Grim now. Feel free to delete anything he posts on your talk page. As far as Brainstock goes, I would suggest reporting that to any mods on there to see what their policy is and what they can do to help you. --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 18:10, 9 June 2008 (BST)
==Manhunt==
You remember that game of manhunt we were gonna have in UD, but canceled it due to everyone being busy?  I'm up for the challenge yet again. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:07, 9 June 2008 (BST)
:{{*}}Slaps Axe's knee with glove (too short for face)* It's official, when, where, how? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:11, 9 June 2008 (BST)
::The same plan we had in the original chat? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:13, 9 June 2008 (BST)
:::Sure... do you have a link? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:13, 9 June 2008 (BST)
::::We need to keep this in order somehow...half the chat's [[User_talk:A_Helpful_Little_Gnome/Archive#I.__Declare.__War...Again.21|here]] and the other half is lying around in my archive somewhere... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:16, 9 June 2008 (BST)
::::Other half is [[User:Axe_Hack/Archive2#.............|here]].  Oddly enough...I'm in the same place as the last time we had this chat... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:19, 9 June 2008 (BST)
You know what?  I'm gonna sum everything up in one shot.  The eligible areas are the suburbs in the southwestern corner in a 3x3 square (Nixbank, Wykewood, South Blythville, Foulkes Village, Ruddlebank, Lockettside, [[The Arkham Sisters]], and Spicer Hill).  The rules:
#No sleeping in malls.  Malls are only used for resupplying.
#Most kill wins (whether zombie or survivor).  Time limit is a month.
#No noninvolved characters' help.
I'm pretty sure that's everything...Think we should reinvite Seventythree and SA?  As you know...the more the merrier. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:33, 9 June 2008 (BST)
:Of course. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:35, 9 June 2008 (BST)
::And I bet in a few hours, more people are gonna ask to join...And by the time we get like 10 people in this, we're gonna have to expand the territories.  Care to place a wager?  I'll bet an evil cookie. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:42, 9 June 2008 (BST)
:::Talk to [[DDR]] about this, he'll be very interested. Somewhere in his userspace is plans for a manhunt, also check the [[BBK]] talk.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:10, 10 June 2008 (BST)
::::I hope you know that this is a No Alliances Manhunt... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:12, 10 June 2008 (BST)
:::::We've had two manhunts - one was every man for himself and the other was teams. The next hunt is planned to be no teams yet again, so we're fine with this. But yeah I really think if you haven't already you should contact [[DDR]] about this - he'd be very interested and you might be able to trade ideas for how to run this and future hunts. Plus I'm sure he wouldn't mind an invite :P --{{User:Nallan/sig}} 23:15, 10 June 2008 (BST)
::::::Well Gnome...I say we expand the area by another few suburbs...Besides...someone from the NMC wants in also... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:21, 10 June 2008 (BST)
:::::::The more the merrier. :D --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:30, 10 June 2008 (BST)
::::::::So...it's 4 by 4 now?  Or would you rather it 5 by 5? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:33, 10 June 2008 (BST)
:::::::::4 by 4, don't make it too big yet. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:35, 10 June 2008 (BST)
::::::::::4x4 it is.  By the way...Axe Hack's is in Dowdney Mall, resupplying currently.  I head on down to the southwest in about a few days...I need to stock on shotguns...I can't do anything with only the shells, now can I? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:40, 10 June 2008 (BST)
:::::::::::We had a [[manhunt]] of 15 players and even 2x2, we realized, was too large for that. I was organizing a different sort of manhunt, where we all go for one person, and the player who kills him wins, but if you organize a manhunt, I could get the BBK to join, as well as a few ex-BBK members (don't worry, they are all trustworthy, they don't cheat). The only reason I didn't organize a new one myself was because I don't have the time at the moment, so if one of you guys tell us where to go and when the hunt starts, I'll give you everyones profile and we can have a free-for-all standoff! <u><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User Talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:lime;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution/media|<span style="color:Aqua;font-weight:bold">R</span>]]</big>evolution</u> 02:04, 11 June 2008 (BST)
::::::::::::The locations are listed above somewhere...And Gnome...if the BBK does join...I think it's time to change it to 5x5... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 10:58, 11 June 2008 (BST)
When will this be? Because I want to use the alt I have in mind to go to Biertag and Extravaganza. Will this coincide with those? If so I might have to pull Nallan out of Penny Heights for a bit...--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 11:17, 11 June 2008 (BST)
:We haven't even decided on a date yet.  That's how slow at planning we are. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 11:25, 11 June 2008 (BST)
:::::::::::::5v5 is a bit big I think? How many kills every week are you expecting to happen? I think 3x3 would be an ideal size for 10-15 over the period of a month. <u><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User Talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:lime;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution/media|<span style="color:Aqua;font-weight:bold">R</span>]]</big>evolution</u> 07:41, 12 June 2008 (BST)
::::::::::::::Well...This is free-for-all... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 10:44, 12 June 2008 (BST)
:::::::::::::::And from experience I can say that 3x3 is plenty for a free for all between any less than 15 people. It's been tested using ''ethical'' methodologies.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 10:46, 12 June 2008 (BST)
::::::::::::::::I'll go with 3x3. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:56, 12 June 2008 (BST)
:::::::::::::::::And from here, we're back to the original plan. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:18, 12 June 2008 (BST)
So...any ideas on the time and date? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 14:19, 14 June 2008 (BST)
I just made it to the areas.  When's the date?  Can we decide on one already?  Look.  I don't care when it is.  It could be now, it could be the start of next month.  In a year.  Just pick a date to your heart's desires and we'll vote on one. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:10, 16 June 2008 (BST)
:Now is fine. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 20:11, 16 June 2008 (BST)
::Lets make it start of next month, so we can finalize what characters are used etc, whos playing. You know, the whole lot. <u><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User Talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:lime;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution/media|<span style="color:Aqua;font-weight:bold">R</span>]]</big>evolution</u> 11:15, 17 June 2008 (BST)
:::I'm guessing you want it next month so that you'll get an extra day to hunt us down... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:52, 17 June 2008 (BST)
::::Without a doubt.... <u><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User Talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:lime;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution/media|<span style="color:Aqua;font-weight:bold">R</span>]]</big>evolution</u> 07:14, 18 June 2008 (BST)
When is the official start date? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:32, 25 June 2008 (BST)
:We will only have to assume it's the first of next month at Midnight GMT.  And Gnome.  I'm gonna get you.  Slapping me silly with a newspaper like that...You definitely made your way onto the list of people I'm gonna kill first... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:42, 29 June 2008 (BST)
::So it starts 1st of July? excellent. <u><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User Talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:lime;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution/media|<span style="color:Aqua;font-weight:bold">R</span>]]</big>evolution</u> 11:06, 30 June 2008 (BST)
===Profile links===
I think we should start providing profile links...And assign the links to a color you don't use...(For me, that'll be purple...)  Just toss in your character's profile link below. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 11:05, 11 June 2008 (BST)
*[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=602107 Axe Hack]
*[http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=957783 DanceDanceRevolution]
*[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=754796 Nick90210] - OK Charlie told me it's started so I got a revive and I've starting my scouting. Watch out, bitches!--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 07:09, 2 July 2008 (BST)
*Not competing--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 11:04, 12 June 2008 (BST)
*^ most likely Smarties or Target Zombie. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:55, 12 June 2008 (BST)
*:I'm gonna guess you're using Target Zombie...You and your silly newspaper... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 11:10, 30 June 2008 (BST)
*::In that case, can we have a profile? <u><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User Talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:lime;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution/media|<span style="color:Aqua;font-weight:bold">R</span>]]</big>evolution</u> 12:15, 30 June 2008 (BST)
*:::[http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=669809 Target Zombie], one of Gnome's character spotted in the neighborhood just about a week ago. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 14:54, 30 June 2008 (BST)
*::::Yes, it's Target. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:02, 7 July 2008 (BST)
*[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=805078 Im] interested in joining, can someone alert me when everything is ready? --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 23:48, 17 June 2008 (BST)
*:You don't need an alert.  You're already like 15 blocks away from the targeted areas!  But then...we still need to vote for a date to start this thing... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:08, 18 June 2008 (BST)
*::I'll be free from RL stuff by the end of next week so after that any date is ok for me, should we wait for more guys? --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 15:03, 21 June 2008 (BST)
*:::Well...an official date hasn't been decided yet.  We're waiting to see what Nallan and J3d think of this thing starting at the begginning of next month.  I'll tell them about it, but I'm too busy stealing everything.  *Notices everyone giving him a weird look* What?  Kid Rock told me to do it! --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:32, 22 June 2008 (BST)
*::::It's at the [[Arkham Sisters]] right? [[2 Cool]] will come down for it, begining of next month is a-ok. never mind exams and the like. Can we have more definitely spelled out rules?--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 05:03, 22 June 2008 (BST)
*:::::Your rules are all laid out.  Now we wait for the date...and possibly for Gnome to provide a link to the character he's using... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:08, 22 June 2008 (BST)
*::::::Guys I'll probably have to change my character profile since a lot of pkers are targeting TZH members in the area and Im afraid I'll die from a non-related manhunt death, I'll probably join one of my other two characters mostly JC if I can level him up by the date, anyways, Im always in, one way or the other. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 22:23, 22 June 2008 (BST)
*:::::::So you're using [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1160209 John Cencioni] rather than ObiFireFighter?  At least provide a link... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:02, 30 June 2008 (BST)
*::::::::I cant join ObiFF because currently there's a war going on against my team, I need him to fight the war so the only viable option is using [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=805066 ObiCop] but I need at least two days to reach the tournament area, sorry guys I was couting on using ObiFF but then this war came. There's only a little problem in all this, the war is taking place in S.Blythville wich is one of the six suburbs of the tournament so ObiFF will have to be/roam that area. I give you my word that ObiCop will not kill anyone in S.Blythe and that I will not zerg but its up to you to vote if im in or not or maybe we can remove that suburb from the Manhunt (we have a mall for resuplying in Locketside). What do you say? --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 20:14, 1 July 2008 (BST)
*:::::::::Well...you can always stay away from South Blythville.  I think the zerging measures will come into play if you're characters are a few blocks away from each other...Which is why I usually keep my characters at least a suburb apart.  And there's 9 suburbs...it's 3x3.  We can completely eliminate S. Blythville from the Manhunt area.  8 suburbs are just as good as 9. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:30, 1 July 2008 (BST)
*::::::::::Sweet! Im moving to the area, I will arrive in a couple of days maybe less. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 22:32, 1 July 2008 (BST)
*:::::::::::Well...I know not to hunt for you now...You're late! --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:13, 2 July 2008 (BST)
*::::::::::::Just took me a day and a half to go from Pitney to West Grayside... almost there... I'll certanly arrive tomorrow have a little patience ;)!!!--{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 00:28, 3 July 2008 (BST)
*:::::::::::::Im in the tournament area now, cant tell you more :)! We already have two participants down, manhunt kills? --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 23:30, 3 July 2008 (BST)
*::::::::::::::Well...We have to assume they were killed randomly.  No one provided a screenshot to claim those kills.  Besides, even if they're dead, they're still in.  Didn't you read the rules?  Most kills win.  And where are you, Gnome?  I know you're lurking around somewhere... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:18, 4 July 2008 (BST)
*:::::::::::::::Lolwut... are we starting? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:48, 4 July 2008 (BST)
*::::::::::::::::I got one! Axe by down I mean killed, not outside the tournament :P!!! --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 01:02, 5 July 2008 (BST)
*[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=948017 Guy The Firefighter] IM INNNNNNN {{Unsigned|Guy.The.Firefighter}}
===Rules===
#No sleeping in Malls.  Malls may only be used for resupplying.
#You may not enlist the help of anyone not involved in this Manhunt. (ie: Broadcasting on the radio that one of the contestant is KOS.)
#Most kills win, whether as a zombie or a survivor.  A screenshot must be provided to validate the kill.
#No teaming up with other contestants. (ie: Player1 and Player2 may not "tag team" on Player4)
#This Manhunt will take place in a 3x3 square in the Southwestern corner.  Those suburbs are: Nixbank, Wykewood, <s>South Blythville</s>, Foulkes Village, Ruddlebank, Lockettside, [[The Arkham Sisters]], and Spicer Hill.  If you sleep in another suburb besides the one listed here, your kill count will be deducted by one.  A screenshot of the suburb (everything else may be blacked out, except for your character name) may be taken to prove you're in the Manhunt areas.  If you do provide a screenshot, they must be timestamped.
#No zerging.
----
If you suspect someone is cheating, get a screenshot of the suspicious activity and it will be voted on by the other players to determine if it is considered cheating or not.  Cheaters may have their entire kill count reset back to zero, or be disqualified from the Manhunt.
I think that's all the rules... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:06, 22 June 2008 (BST)
:Can we just say cheating is incredibly lame and that anyone who cheats sucks? Setting a penalty for cheating makes it a valid tactic. I mean sleeping in a dif burb makes you virtually impossible to kill and for only 1 kill cost? Sounds reasonable. I think if you get caught out of the area you should be automatically DQed and that everyone should be strongly discouraged from doing so as its pretty fakin lame.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:32, 23 June 2008 (BST)
:To be honest, I agree, cheaters who sleep outside of the suburb should be disqualified. <u><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User Talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:lime;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution/media|<span style="color:Aqua;font-weight:bold">R</span>]]</big>evolution</u> 09:40, 24 June 2008 (BST)
::Then we vote. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:48, 24 June 2008 (BST)
::: Whatever it is for me, as long there is a penality but only one kill penality seems to be too "light". --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 22:37, 25 June 2008 (BST)
We should add a rule: No killing at a Revive Point. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:40, 29 June 2008 (BST)
:I second that, legitimate kills should only be if they are revived humans or if they are a zombie trying to kill you.  <u><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User Talk:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:lime;font-weight:bold">D</span>]]</big><nowiki>ance</nowiki><big>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution/media|<span style="color:Aqua;font-weight:bold">R</span>]]</big>evolution</u> 01:47, 2 July 2008 (BST)
::OK! --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 11:00, 2 July 2008 (BST)
Better make sure you provide a link here after a kill so people don't think you're PKing out of randomness. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:24, 4 July 2008 (BST)
I got Nick90210 here's the [http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/5881/manhuntms6.png proof] --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 01:11, 5 July 2008 (BST)
:Wow...First kill of the game... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 14:31, 5 July 2008 (BST)
::He almost got me on the previous day but I was in a dark building. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 16:33, 5 July 2008 (BST)
I hope you don't mind me striking out S. Blythville from the list. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 14:54, 5 July 2008 (BST)
:Nah, I dont mind dont worry. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 16:33, 5 July 2008 (BST)
[[:Image:Dancekill.png|mah first kill]]. We might need a separate section. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:15, 8 July 2008 (BST)
:Or a separate page... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:57, 9 July 2008 (BST)
::Yeah. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:58, 9 July 2008 (BST)
:::I'm pretty amazed here...I haven't signed on for about a week, yet I'm still alive.  You guys are pretty bad scouts.  Guess it shows freerunning dead ends are good places to hide in.  And no, this is not a trick to get you to use all your AP up to get to a dead end just so I can swoop in and unexpectedly kill you.  Nope.  Never even thought of it.  Dum de da da...Nothing's going on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:08, 9 July 2008 (BST)
::::Don't you idle out after three days? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:13, 9 July 2008 (BST)
:::::I thought it was a month.  Contacts aren't struck out as idle until a month, so I'm thinking a month. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:16, 9 July 2008 (BST)
::::::Naw, definitely 3-5 days. Just don't log in and sit in a mall. Log in a month latter and check the latest action. Should say a few weeks ago.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:18, 9 July 2008 (BST)
:::::::See, now you've gotten me all confused. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:22, 9 July 2008 (BST)
::::::::And to really confirm that it's 3-5 days, just look at this little shiny object here... *fiddles with little shiny object* --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:23, 9 July 2008 (BST)
:::::::::Well, I was slapped with a newspaper multiple times recently from someone in the NMC...And the Radio I'm carrying has been really quiet. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:26, 9 July 2008 (BST)
OK I got my first kill (went better the second time around). ObiCop and me just have this thing... I've posted the link to the screeny [[Talk:Malton Manhunt/Axe Hack's Manhunt|here]], which is where I think we should post all future manhunt talk and kills. This page is getting too cluttered. No offense, Gnome.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 07:51, 17 July 2008 (BST)
:No you killed me as human you should have stayed a Zed I dont think it should count dude. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 10:45, 17 July 2008 (BST)
::Discussion continued on [[Talk:Malton Manhunt/Axe Hack's Manhunt|Manhunt Talk page]]
===Your prize===
{{AHMH4}}
Yea.  It seems to be true.  Hang tight.  You have one more prize coming your way soon. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:05, 2 August 2008 (BST)
== Can you help? ==
[[User talk:Jefferson32#HI!|This guy]]. I'm not sure what he means.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 08:26, 15 June 2008 (BST)
:He might mean your signature. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:59, 15 June 2008 (BST)
== And/or? ==
[http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5627/mmsstd1sr2.jpg I created this]...and would like to know if it'd be too offensive to put on my group's page. Everyone in my group seems fine with it.. but the wiki might be filled with Prudent Prudences and I hath not the time for tea and appy polly loggies. What say you oh Helpful Gnome, gnomiest of all the gnomes in the land? --[[User:Morgueasm|Morgueasm]] 16:31, 15 June 2008 (BST)
: awesome! Gracias, Gnomey! --[[User:Morgueasm|Morgueasm]] 22:04, 15 June 2008 (BST)
==Is it true?==
That you have an evil twin named An Unhelpful Big Goblin? --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[MSD]]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 05:36, 17 June 2008 (BST)
:It could be, I have many twins. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:19, 19 June 2008 (BST)
== [[User:Zig13]] needs YOU! ==
Hey gnomey, Zig13 came to me for formatting help and being of slight difficulty it was out of my league, check mine (or his) talk page for details of what he wants. It'd be great if you could show him how (also i'd be interested to know - manipulating template boxes has always been beyond me).--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:53, 18 June 2008 (BST)
:Seems like Kikashie got to it. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:20, 19 June 2008 (BST)
==...==
Slapped twice with a newspaper!  I don't believe it!  You're just fucking with me, aren't you?  What crazy plan do you have in your head? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:03, 4 July 2008 (BST)
== Fine. Let it sit. ==
[[Vandal_Banning#User:TexasXViewXFinis|No, instead of resolving the conflict, you're letting it get worse.Negligence is not an answer.]] --{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 01:34, 16 July 2008 (BST)
:Looks to be there is more to the story, but I don't have the time. Go bug Grim, I won't be around for the next few weeks and not anywhere near internets. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:15, 16 July 2008 (BST)
==What the fuck==
How on earth can you possibly vote kill [[Suggestion:20080721_Building_Improvement|on this piece of utterly and irredeemably game breakingly spam-fucking-tastic broken piece of steaming piss streaked refuse]]? Its the worst suggestion made all year. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 16:41, 21 July 2008 (BST)
:Well I thought it could perhaps be fixed... and it just doesn't make sense to vote change in the spam section. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 16:43, 21 July 2008 (BST)
::Any search buff is game breaking, ''especially in malls''. It doesnt matter how you do it. the last time it happened we had a fucking exodus from the game (Powered searches). The whole premise is to buff search rates by a whopping 10-15 percent. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 16:45, 21 July 2008 (BST)
:::As someone who is a bit of a hospital rat, I can agree that a mall search rate buff is a bit much... but the general idea of being able to improve buildings in some way (over time) seems fitting now that ruined buildings have a natural decay. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 16:48, 21 July 2008 (BST)
::::Homogenising the two sides is a bad idea, and it doesnt lead to fun. All it results in is that humans can easily undo the work of zombies in one session (Because zombies have to move on to find food, and rarely crowd building devoid of life with 50+ bodies if they werent first eating life there). Humans basically would get free rebuilding over time safish behind EHB cades which gave them a search buff. Whoop. Almost as broken as Jon Pyres suggestion. Attempting to give each side their equivalent benefits doesnt work because the mechanics for either side are fundamentally different. In this case, you would end up with survivors getting free max almost everywhere except in the middle of a holocaust while easily being able to undo zombie efforts anywhere with even a mild amount of metagame and a sacrificial suicide repairer. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 16:55, 21 July 2008 (BST)
:::::It's not really homogenizing, if that were the case there would be extra AP needed to ruin buildings. I am voting change/kill because I believe the suggestion to be at least be salvageable. The flavour text would be great to show how long a building was standing at least, so I'm not spamming it. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:37, 21 July 2008 (BST)
== unprotections? ==
Am I missing the completely obvious? But how do you get a page unprotected? You obviously know what I am talking about :) And, for the record, I know exactly what needs to be done to make it NPOV. It's nothing especially radical... What I'll do in the meantime is come up with something and put in an edit request... Cheers. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 12:05, 24 July 2008 (BST)
== Move ==
Hi therem just here to say that I am not quite sure why I made it a user page anymore, there was some logic to it but I have forgotten what it was --[[User:Blanemcc|Blanemcc]] 19:11, 6 August 2008 (BST)
== Warning Struck ==
I think I'm due. Can you check and help me out? [[User:Ioncannon11|Ioncannon11]] 21:41, 6 August 2008 (BST)
== Regarding ''Subst'' ==
I understand that the "What links here" page for templates may be inaccurate due to something called ''Subst''. What, extactly, is ''Subst'' and how can I tell if a template is effected by it? Thanks! --{{User:Pedentic/Sig}} 03:34, 8 August 2008 (BST)
:Well, I hit the picture on the template and noticed that a copy of the template was there in the "Links" section of the image. I noticed that the code was just copied, instead of the standard <nowiki>{{Template}}</nowiki>. Subst is just an easy way to to call the templates code, useful for protection against people editing the template and altering what you originally wanted the template used for. It's likely they did <nowiki>{{Subst:Revenge}}</nowiki> or copied the code directly. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:23, 8 August 2008 (BST)
::I'm not terribly familiar with wikicode, so I'm not quite following your explanation. You said you noticed a copy of the template in the picture's "Links" section and that tipped you off. Shouldn't the template have been listed there anyway because it included that picture? --{{User:Pedentic/Sig}} 04:31, 8 August 2008 (BST)
:::No, the "what links here" only includes links to the page or [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Urban_Dead inclusion] (calling the template). I hit the image and noticed that it was being used on a page so I took a look. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:35, 8 August 2008 (BST)
::::So the only way to tell if a template is being ''Subst''-ed is to do a bit of digging? --{{User:Pedentic/Sig}} 04:37, 8 August 2008 (BST)
:::::Yeah. Oddly though, images are only seen under "Links" when they are being shown as an image, not like <nowiki>[[:Image:Dancekill.png]]</nowiki>. Check "what links here" on [[:Image:Dancekill.png]] and you'll see that it's actually in use. :O --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:40, 8 August 2008 (BST)
== Quick Question on Deletion Criteria ==
Hi. I'm looking for an answer to a question on deletions, and you seem to be active on the deletions/speedy deletions pages, so I'm hoping you can help me.
When I visit these pages, I always see pages being deleted (or not) because of "Crit 1" or "Crit 12." For example, [[A/SD#Foulkes_Village_Troupe|this page]] was deleted because of Crit 1. My question is, what are these criteria and where can I find a list of them and what they do? A wiki search turns up nothing. Thanks. --[[User:JaredV|Jared]]<sup>[[User_talk:JaredV|Talk]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|P!]]</sup> 18:30, 8 August 2008 (BST)
:The crits are on the Speedy Deletion page.  Somewhere at the top. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:35, 8 August 2008 (BST)
::OK, thanks. I missed that, looking for something that said word for word "Crit 1." --[[User:JaredV|Jared]]<sup>[[User_talk:JaredV|Talk]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|P!]]</sup> 18:38, 8 August 2008 (BST)
== Really fast question ==
Is it just my browser, or is the bottom two-thirds of the Speedy Deletion page in small italics? --{{User:Pedentic/Sig}} 03:49, 19 August 2008 (BST)
:It's fixed, Boxy accidentally deleted the end-codes to my sig.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:35, 19 August 2008 (BST)
== Mudkipz! ==
[[TDSM8]], i haz found dem! --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 14:51, 22 August 2008 (BST)
:Where are all those filthy mudipz popping up from? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:52, 23 August 2008 (BST)
== 20 Minutes? ==
I managed to block [[Stranger Grove Fire Station]] in 12. And that was only because of its stupid fiddly corner of a suburb rubbishness.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:48, 23 August 2008 (BST)
:Whilst I'm here, Can you think of a better name for this? [[Location Page Building Toolkit]]--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:55, 23 August 2008 (BST)
::Over exaggeration, more like ~15 minutes. Name is fine, although you might want to alphabetize the images if you're bored. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:52, 23 August 2008 (BST)
== Getting bans struck ==
Hey dude, just wondering how I can get some bans struck - I'm sure I've had enough edits between escalations but I've never bothered to go and get some of my warnings or bans struck. Can you help me out?--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 02:07, 24 August 2008 (BST)
:Yep, one warning struck. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 05:27, 24 August 2008 (BST)
::Thanks.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 07:24, 24 August 2008 (BST)
==Attempt to have the above done==
Hi Gnome, I know this doesn't necessarily mean much but in a fit on insecurity I have also decided I wouldn't mind having my ban struck... I have a feeling it is strikeable even though I don't really know the rules... It's been 6 months and over 400 edits passed I believe. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 07:13, 25 August 2008 (BST)
:Struck. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 20:57, 25 August 2008 (BST)
==IRC==
I need to talk with you on IRC for a few minutes, you think you could come on? --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 05:42, 26 August 2008 (BST)
:I haven't been able to get on to any irc in a long while. Same #udwiki nexuswar.com? Well anyways, it's after 12 and I will probably have to download an actual irc client anyways. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 05:57, 26 August 2008 (BST)
== I need your help ==
As you may have guessed I am Izumi and I need to speak with you, as you seem to be the only reasonable sysop left. Before you pass any judgment you should know the history of my case; I was banned unjustly over an accident, and got escalated to perma for using alts to leave sysops messages contesting it. Since I was banned, I have made many alts to circumvent the ban in hopes of being able to simply edit my group page in peace and not bother or be bothered by anyone. All I want is to be able my group page and my personal page. I have not committed a single act of vandalism in nearly a year, outside of circumventing my perma. I have no bad faith intentions I simply want to be left in peace. Unfortunately Grim refuses to let that happen as it is "against the rules" despite the fact I have personally witnessed him bend the rules many times before for people he favors. There is no government to uphold here, I am not trying to trespass on sacred ground; I just want to be able to manage my affairs. Please help me, there must be something you can do to help me end this cycle. [[User:Justice|Justice]] 05:22, 27 August 2008 (BST)
:You have shown a flagrant disregard for the rules and guidelines of this wiki. Furthermore, you promised me, eleven months ago, that you would not consider returning for a year. given the fact that the year ends in over two weeks, and you have been around as illusionist since march, on and off, i think its fairly safe to say that your word isnt worth the breath its uttered on, or the bandwidth you waste to convey it digitally. You had your chance, you knew the rules, and you decided to break them more often than any other user in the history of this wiki. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 11:20, 27 August 2008 (BST)
:Why don't you get another member of your group to edit the page, through your forum? Why do you insist on making more alts? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:01, 27 August 2008 (BST)
::After a several month hiatus I returned to UD to find most of my group gone; I am in the process of recruiting more members but for the time being it would be nearly impossible to make the updates. It's not as though I am asking for much; Simply allow me access to my group and user pages, that's all. If not at least please stop ruthlessly hunting down my new accounts as if I am some sort of plague; Just pretend I'm someone else. If I've proven anything in the last eleven months its that I'm NOT a vandal and I am most certainly not a threat to this wiki that you guard so fiercely. Quite unlike Grim has so eloquently stated, I do not disregard the rules; I respect them fully. I do not cause any conflict, I do not vandalize pages, I don't so much as troll a user. I have absolutely zero "bad faith", which, according to the wiki guidelines is the sole defining element of vandalism and of vandals themselves, that is to say, they have to WANT to cause problems. I can't make it any more clear than that. This entire situation is ludicrous and I wouldn't need to make "sockpuppets" if I were given a fair chance at redemption. [[User:Restitution|Restitution]] 04:36, 28 August 2008 (BST)
:::Oh, just to prove my point, I went ahead and pulled this from the vandalism policy page. ''"The issue is not punishment - we do not punish vandals. The only aim with warnings and bans is to attempt to stop the vandal from continuing to vandalise the wiki. We are more than willing to let reformed vandals continue to edit this wiki, if their edits are a good faith attempt to improve this wiki."'' [[User:Restitution|Restitution]] 06:45, 28 August 2008 (BST)
:::If you respected the rules at all you would have abided the bans you recieved in the first place and lived with them. As it is, you are the most prolific rule breaker that this wiki has ever seen, beating every single multiple account troll vandal that has ever hit this place. It goes without saying that you are, once again, banned from this wiki. You gave me your word in september 07 to leave this wiki alone for a year, and you broke your word in march this year. So dont come expecting any kind of sympathy, or special pleading, because it isnt going to happen. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 13:14, 28 August 2008 (BST)
:::Also, you just dont get it. If we let you back in at all, then we set a bar, at least in the minds of everyone, for how annoying people have to be before they get let back in as well. It only makes problems for us all much worse and would reduce the place to smoking rubble. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 13:18, 28 August 2008 (BST)
::::It seems you have forgotten that I was wrongly banned to begin with, which is why I even started making new accounts. I don't see why what I have done in the past makes any damn difference anyway, nothing I have done in any of my alt accounts have constituted vandalism except for simply ''existing''. If I have shown anything it is that I do not conform to said above definition of "vandal" and hence should be immediately unbanned for that alone, otherwise the policy guidelines are giving false information (albeit I know it will not be that simple, as you have a habit of worming such things around to fit your interests). Why don't we give Gnome a chance to reply? In case you haven't noticed, you are NOT the sole sysop of the wiki and by extension you are NOT its dictator; you have no more say in my fate than any other administrator. At the least I feel I should at least receive a permaban vote, something I was denied when I was first perma'd. And as for your claims that "This place will turn to smoking rubble", as I have said many times, ''get a grip man! Its a video game instruction manual for heaven's sake!'' Why can't you vent your obsessive personality somewhere else, like on Xbox or something? [[User:Valiance|Valiance]] 14:09, 28 August 2008 (BST)
:::::Oh and Grim here's something for you, pulled straight off of your user page: ''I take my position seriously and will always do what i feel is both right and within the rules of the wiki.''
Now please see the above rule I already took the liberty of pasting here. If you indeed follow the rules as closely as you say you do-without manipulating them in any way- then you must indeed unban me immediately for lack of bad faith and if not then honor the new rule guaranteeing a permaban vote. If you want to lawyer things up then that's what we'll do. [[User:Valiance|Valiance]] 14:28, 28 August 2008 (BST)
:The vandalism document does encourage users to reform, but permabans are for those who refuse to do so. You have shown a steadfast refusal to reform and adhere to the rules of this wiki, as such you have no place here. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 15:23, 28 August 2008 (BST)
::As the person who has repeatedly sniffed out the Izumi alts, I feel compelled to weigh in a bit here.  The arguments put forth by Izumi are all rehashed nonsense that she's posted all before.
::- I'm just trying to manage my group page and user page.
::- Look at my recent history I haven't been doing anything bad.
::- I was unjustly punished as a vandal in the first place, so everything else I've done is someone else's fault.
::- [New user name] Grim is mean.
::- [New user name] Grim is gay.
::- It's all Grim's fault.
::- FU, Grim!
::- repeat
She's never once taken one iota of responsibility for her actions.  The world is conspiring against her and Grim is the ringleader.  It would be funny if it weren't so sad. 
--[[User:Stephen Colbert DFA|Stephen Colbert DFA]] 20:39, 28 August 2008 (BST)
::Yes, and her original assertion that her first bannings were unjustified are only so in her own mind.  Just because she can't intellectually grasp what she did wrong, doesn't mean it wasn't wrong.  The original bannings were for good cause.--[[User:Sarah Silverman|Sarah Silverman]] 21:42, 28 August 2008 (BST)
:::How about everyone kindly butt out until Gnome gets a chance to reply? I repeat, Grim is not wiki-dictator hard as he tries, and you two trolls have no say whatsoever, especially considering your animosity towards me and my group. [[User:Izumi Again|Izumi Again]] 03:05, 29 August 2008 (BST)
::::How about you abide your perma like a good little vandal? --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 04:08, 29 August 2008 (BST)
::::Don't be stupid. [[User:Byzantium|Byzantium]] 05:56, 29 August 2008 (BST)
In response to being unjustly banned, I've decided to examine your vandal data.
'''[[User:Izumi Orimoto]]'''
*Warned - 03:44, 5 April 2007 (BST) [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2007_04#Izumi_Orimoto_2|See]]. You were warned for vandalizing the [[Mall Tour '07]] and rightly so.
*Warned - 04:19, 11 April 2007 (BST) [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2007_04#Izumi_Orimoto|See]]. Warned [[User_talk:Izumi_Orimoto#Second_Warning|here]].
*Banned for 24 hours - 06:47, 2 May 2007 (BST) [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2007_05#Izumi_Orimoto|See]]. Blatant impersonation.
*Banned for 48 hours - 01:58, 28 July 2007 (BST) [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2007_07#Izumi_Orimoto|See]]. A quick look at the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Dulston_Alliance/BlackList&limit=500&action=history history] (scroll down) will reveal the reasons.
*Banned for 1 Week -14:09, 31 July 2007 (BST) [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2007_07#Lady_Ragnarok|See]]. Ban evasion.
*Banned for 1 Month - 17:33, 8 September 2007 (BST) [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2007_09#Izumi_Orimoto_3|See]]. Group page editing, you should know by now.
*Banned for 1 Year - 06:27, 10 September 2007 (BST) [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2007_09#Izumi_Orimoto_2|See]]. Ban evasion.
*Permabanned - 11:05, 10 September 2007 (BST) [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2007_09#Izumi_Orimoto|See]]. Ban evasion.
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#Also edited under the account "[[User:Byzantium|Byzantium]]" Ban evasion. ^
Really. Perhaps there were a few harsh word directed at you, particularly warning #2 but you certainly were not unjustly banned. Regardless, this becomes a bit irrelevant after you look at all the many, many alternate accounts you used. Please stop making alternate accounts, and get a group member to edit your group page for you if you must. If there are no group members left, your group is defunct and it shouldn't matter, right? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:07, 31 August 2008 (BST)
:Actually, looking at the list, several of those accounts aren't even mine, which translates to Grim banning innocent people in his pursuit of me. Well done there, I can only laugh at you. As for me leaving, its not going to happen. You really should know that by now. I will be here FOREVER. There is NOTHING you can do to change that. I've been try to go about this in a civilized and professional way, but that has obviously failed. The only reason you have detected the accounts you have is because I intended it to be so, mostly because I used them to speak with you on my behalf (with the exception of Illusionist, and that took you 8 bloody months). I have many, many accounts that you haven't discovered yet, and I've used them to spread my will in various ways, from voting on suggestions to chatting with members of the various groups I am involved with. Good luck on your witch hunt, please take care not to ban innocent people this time. [[User:Aquatechnic|Aquatechnic]] 03:33, 1 September 2008 (BST)
::A few of those were retroactively linked to you by IP addresses you used. Specifically, Tuong Lu Kim through Moderator Man. They had already been permad for huge amounts of vandalism. You acting up after being banned a large number of times, then trying to sweep it under the rug. The only reason i didnt spot illusionist at the time was because i was on a wikibreak, and you were not very active at all. No innocents have been banned. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]]</sup> 03:51, 1 September 2008 (BST)

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