Template talk:SugHead

Suggestion

I think that one bit your supposed to copy and paste should be changed to something like this:

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<nonclude> {{Suggestion Navigation}} {{TOCright}} <nclude> ===SugHead=== ~~~ '''Suggestion type'''<br /> Skill, balance change, improvement, etc. <br /> '''Suggestion scope'''<br /> Who or what it applies to. <br /> '''Suggestion description'''<br /> Full description. Check spelling and be descriptive. {{Subst:SuggestionVoting}}

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This would cut down on the bug when this happens: Zomg this isn't on a new line even though I started a new line lolwut? --Kaysakado 23:28, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Building off of this, I would actually suggest it be the following:

<nonclude> {{Suggestion Navigation}} {{TOCright}} <nclude> ===SugHead=== ~~~ '''Suggestion type'''<br /> Skill, balance change, improvement, etc. '''Suggestion scope'''<br /> Who or what it applies to. '''Suggestion description'''<br /> Full description. Check spelling and be descriptive. {{Subst:SuggestionVoting}}

The <br /> tag actually generates a slightly smaller line break than a standard carriage return done in editing on this wiki, so it makes it look more consistent if you don't use it in some of those places, and it keeps the code cleaner for wikinoobs too. —Aichon— 22:21, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Change

This is part of my distant term project to fix up the stupid current suggestions submission system, but who else thinks we might be able to get rid of all that crap at the top of this template. Chances are if you've made the suggestion page already you aren't going to delete it simply because you've forced yourself to read Suggestion Do's and Don'ts for the 3rd time, it's already pushed heavily enough on Current Suggestions. And this way, people would be less daunted and less inclined to skip the instructions and fuck it up, leaving users like us to fix it all for them. Thoughts? --

 

 

 

 

07:13, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Amen to that. The process for creating a suggestion is far too complicated at the moment and needs to be greatly simplified. Folks that are going to ignore those warnings and pieces of advice are going to do so regardless of how many times we put it in front of them. —Aichon— 19:29, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

The current system works, and has worked for years. You have no good reason for changing it. Just because the occasional idiot doesn't take the time to follow the very clear instructions does not mean the system is faulty. You change it and they'll still fuck up the new system in some way. At least this way we stand a chance of some idiot actually reading the advice. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:33, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

If the advice is presented in a less "block of text" way, it might sink in better, though. A rewording of the template to be more concise would be better than replacing the current system. 19:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree with the "less block of text" idea. I also strongly believe that there is no reason to have them create a page with a template, only to replace the entire thing after following the instructions on that page. It's convoluted and bad design that confounds newbies and even some vets. There are other ways to present the advice without forcing them to stare at walls of text. The system needs streamlining, basically. —Aichon— 19:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Gimme a bit to sort out an RTS and some drinking and I'll see if I can make a new presentation for it. 19:57, 21 March 2010 (UTC)