UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/JebJ vs Kirsty Cotton

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JebJ v. Kirsty Cotton

I would like to request arbitration for the Meany Auto Repair page. User Kirsty Cotton - http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User_talk:Kirsty_cotton - and I are having a disagreement over whether a particular photo should be included there. I argue that the photo (and the associated text) is potentially offensive, and unnecessary to keep in the wiki (an opinion shared by Aichon - http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User_talk:Thanatologist#JebJ), whereas Kirsty believes that the photo and text add needed flavor to the game/wiki. JebJ (talk) 12:06, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Interesting case. I would be happy to arbitrate this case. A ZOMBIE ANT 22:24, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

I accept DDR. --K 04:39, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. JebJ (talk) 13:04, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, that was just about the quickest setup to arbitration I've ever seen. DDR knows what to do next. Aichon 15:12, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Really! Really? Really. Sometimes I do wonder about this wiki. --Rosslessness 21:57, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Where did you find that private picture of ME!?!? --Sally A. Summers i Ω i 01:55, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Clearly the fair solution to this is to also include a picture of a massive wab there too. Simple. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 23:55, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Soooo... is something happening with this? JebJ (talk) 03:35, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

You should poke your arbitrator's talk page. If he's not responding for some reason, you two may want to select a different arbitrator. Aichon 08:14, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Ugh. I am so sorry to both of you, I had a fire in my house a month ago and all my computing gear got taken by insurance to be restored/replaced. So I completely forgot to pop into a lot of places on the web. My apologies to both of you. I am going overseas and won't have internet access until the 14th so I guess it's for the best if you choose a new arbitrator. Apologies again guys and the best of luck to both of you. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:28, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Eeep! Sorry to hear about that, DDR! Best of luck getting everything straightened out. Insurance can be a bear to deal with. JebJ (talk) 12:26, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I offer to arbitrate. ~Vsig.png 02:25, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me. JebJ (talk) 12:26, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Sure. --K 21:39, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I will get this started just as soon as I get to a computer (don't want to do it on my mobile). In the meantime, if either of you want another user to represent you, please start on that. If not, just post here and I will get the abry page proper created and begin arbitration. ~Vsig.png 00:02, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm fine representing myself. JebJ (talk) 11:48, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Very well. If Kirsty also wants to represent herself, then I will begin arbitration. ~Vsig.png 17:59, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm good. --K 13:43, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok, let's get this started. Below, I have started separate headers for you to use to state your case. Please provide links to any examples, policy or precedent which you feel supports your case. After you have both stated your case, you will then have an opportunity to reply using headers that I will create. If you are not Jeb or Kirsty, please do not comment on this case. Use the talk page if you want to discuss it. Any comments from other users, especially those misogynic in nature, will be moved to the discussion page and will not be considered during my ruling. Good luck to you both.

Arbitration

JebJ's statements

Kirsty Cotton's statements

With brevity? I'd like to first point to the responses on this page, which seem to indicate a general "wtf". The UD Wiki is based on user provided content, in this case: a tongue-in-cheek description of the previous(?) residents of a specific location within Malton. This is generally accepted behavior. However, the issue appears to be potential offensiveness. The wiki has historically sided that civility or offensiveness be judged on whether it is acceptable roleplaying versus a direct attack/threat. This is clearly a bit of RP, certainly not directed at any single individual or even presented in any manner other than joking. Therefore, I object to it's simple removal in the name of censorship of potentially offensive materials. As for the image specifically, I can find no better explanation for that image than the story already attached to it. Being a public page and I not being the original author, I have no problem with a change that improves the page and makes changes to any potentially offensive material, but simply removing relevant aspects of the page is not improvement. --K 23:50, 8 December 2014 (UTC)