Talk:Blackmore 4(04)

Wanna get an interview? READ

As you've most likely seen on the main page, I've been working on a "Frontline"-esque series of interviews for the event. Right now they consist of a talk with a few of the heavy-hitters (and a few people that were around while I was conducting them); however, I have no qualms with adding more.

If you are interested in having your impressions of the event memorialized on the this page, answer the following questions in the next section.

1. What role did you play in the siege? (include group and profile link)
2. How did you hear about it? What were your expectations?
3. What was your favorite part of the event?
4. What was your least favorite part of the event?
5. What did you think of the opposition?
6. What was your overall impression of the event?
7. Do you see anything of this scale happening in the future?
8. Any other thoughts?

Place ideas/Material below here

Random points

404 accidentally arrived in ridley on the 9th, when a member of our group started wandering and scouting the place as a possible target. A few members of the group wanted to try out a new tactic and needed a semi permanently ruined suburb to test it in.

By the 14th, most of us were in place, and we were concentrating on suicide repairing the buildings in the southernmost of the burb, around St. Simon's Hospital. We weren't targeting blackmore (a mid 30ap repair) as it would have really alerted the RRF to our presence. Using these buildings as a bse we continued the high cost repairs around the burb. (Personally I did 4 50+ap suicide repairs in a row and didn't die once). Things were going well. By the 18th we had a large chunl of the place repaired, or with minimal repair costs.

Unfortunately, this was about the time Project Operation Let's Not Get Our Asses Kicked started publicising itself. For a group like 404 this is always a bit of a problem. They do well because by the time zombies know they are there, everything is caded. The last thing we wanted was a swarm of survivors turning up. Plus with the projects start date changing three times, it really just highlighted the fact with no real support. A few people turned up, but no large chunk of survivors.

We reclaimed blackmore on the 19th. Originally we were going to pinata it and leave, but the zombie we were using got accidentally fakked in the confusion, so we decided to hold the place instead. Oh and I don't like the yellow. Can it be red like on the fall of monroeville mall? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:00, 31 August 2010 (BST)

Thanks for the backstory, but the yellow is vintage Battle of Blackmore coding. It stays. ~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 00:52, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Very early shot showing Christmas tree and lights. http://iamscott.net/1282189368489.html --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:18, 31 August 2010 (BST)

Heres the CR of Globule-- Rolfe Steiner ^{Talk | Creedy Guerrilla Raiders} 20:31, 31 August 2010 (BST)

Dumbwit NT Scans

http://iamscott.net/1282377669992.html

http://iamscott.net/1282557155763.html

http://iamscott.net/1282627764590.html

http://iamscott.net/1282728464991.html

http://iamscott.net/128275179567.html

http://iamscott.net/1282855671925.html

http://iamscott.net/1282993635867.html

--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:18, 31 August 2010 (BST)

Scent map during the siege

View at the fall (joined the fray only after there were 59 zeds in)

Scent map after the fall

-- Spiderzed▋ 20:29, 31 August 2010 (BST)

In The Big Prick's defense...

... we didn't anticipate that Project Operation Whatever would gather so many people (and Zs), or amount to much of anything. We just thought that we'd head down to Ridleybank, maybe repair a few buildings, maybe join up with 404, DEM, or one of the other established groups that seemed to be headed that way, and maybe make a small nuisance of ourselves. TBP doesn't do very well in sieges, although this one was kind of fun.

Basically, I think the consensus is that the advertising involved in Project Operation Whatever may have screwed up more subtle plans that other groups had for Ridleybank. And the siege didn't last quite long enough to relieve the other burbs of their burdens, so I'm not really sure we accomplished much of anything. Asheets 20:24, 31 August 2010 (BST)

TBP where one of the reasons that the RP remained almost completely clear for the entire event. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:28, 31 August 2010 (BST)

Image:Bellow.jpg The range of bellow centred on blackmore. Its about 22% of the city. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:33, 31 August 2010 (BST)

Not accomplished much of anything? I think the recall of the majority of the RRF will have a big effect on the area they were operating in, letting the survivors have breathing space to rebuild. We did the single standout siege of probably the past couple of years, wiped away the stain of failure [Escape] had on the survivor psyche, and done some of the biggest mass Combat revives ON THE SPOT with little to no planning that I've personally ever seen. Maybe, you sir, are too jaded and cynical to see exactly what an accomplishment these 13 days were.-- Rolfe Steiner ^{Talk | Creedy Guerrilla Raiders} 20:38, 31 August 2010 (BST)

You need to put it all in perspective. The event diverted the RRF back to its homeland from its merry carnage. Thats a big thing. But more importantly, do a NT scan of of the surrounding burbs. Galbraith hills is a good example. Theres hardly a zombie on the street. Repeated bellows from blackmore diverted every ferals attention to the homeland. At the start of the week they had 50 or 60 in each. Now its a lot less. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:44, 31 August 2010 (BST)

And looking through all the records I can, the last time blackmore was held for 13 and a bit days or anywhere near it was January 26th, 2008 --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:56, 31 August 2010 (BST)

Maybe I have become a bit jaded. Thanks for helping me put this in a bit of perspective. Asheets 15:48, 1 September 2010 (BST)

You would not believe the number of local NT's up at this time. Its scary. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 16:50, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Yeah. Central Malton (even parts of Ridleybank) actually looks safe in places. Haven't seen that in well... ages. ~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 17:00, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Put it this way: These days, you can take down malls with 20 ferals. And it took 140 or so zombies to take down Blackmore, in Ridleybank. --Wraith 04:51, 6 September 2010 (BST)

Iwits taken during the siege

http://iamscott.net/1281571621521.html http://iamscott.net/1282189368489.html http://iamscott.net/1282546931710.html http://iamscott.net/128256686929.html http://iamscott.net/1282566888482.html http://iamscott.net/1282569152497.html http://iamscott.net/1282602344478.html http://iamscott.net/128263247093.html http://iamscott.net/1282686540676.html http://iamscott.net/1282683672360.html http://iamscott.net/1282719622410.html http://iamscott.net/1282769696709.html http://iamscott.net/1282774037127.html http://iamscott.net/1282797825916.html http://iamscott.net/1282806301479.html http://iamscott.net/1282810270505.html http://iamscott.net/1282825402756.html http://iamscott.net/1282825439706.html http://iamscott.net/1282825289340.html http://iamscott.net/1282843019866.html http://iamscott.net/1282860819283.html http://iamscott.net/1282899862677.html http://iamscott.net/1282904375347.html http://iamscott.net/1282958931427.html http://iamscott.net/1282950456410.html http://iamscott.net/1282995018979.html http://iamscott.net/1282993635867.html http://iamscott.net/1282993603857.html http://iamscott.net/1283047088336.html http://iamscott.net/1283062412921.html http://iamscott.net/1283073228471.html http://iamscott.net/1283073517294.html http://iamscott.net/128310060928.html http://iamscott.net/1283176193972.html http://iamscott.net/1283123155628.html http://iamscott.net/1283137446575.html http://iamscott.net/1283188690640.html http://iamscott.net/1283208011191.html http://iamscott.net/1283225895713.html http://iamscott.net/1283197302570.html http://iamscott.net/1283228686167.html http://iamscott.net/1283228704791.html http://iamscott.net/1283242413837.html -- Rolfe Steiner ^{Talk | Creedy Guerrilla Raiders} 20:57, 31 August 2010 (BST)

A few moar iwits from Cadwah's perspective. http://iamscott.net/1283237353609.html http://iamscott.net/1283202829560.html http://iamscott.net/1283209446110.html -- Rolfe Steiner ^{Talk | Creedy Guerrilla Raiders} 22:26, 2 September 2010 (BST)

Plus these (unsorted):

  http://pastebin.com/6PV8wwiC

Sorted and labeled for ease:

• Christmas decor
• Day three/100 hours celebration
• Noo! Not the lights!
• Speech
• Twister Notes
• Sky Rockets
• Randomness and twister and Globule revived (Oh my!)
• More talking + GKers
• Humanphagia
• Large Break-in
• More Albert, Humanphagia, and breakin
• Glob as human
• Killjoys (DC)
• Survivor count
• RRF make weird survivors
• As above + extra
• Moloch+chatting
• Break in fixed in nine or three minutes.
• Noo! Not the lights!: The Sequel
• NT scan
• Ladies
• Burgundy toast
• Yon's arrival
• Pibbit Monologue
• NT scan
• Humanphagia sings
• Toolbox kill

Oddest siege

• Amber waves of pain
• Wasabee
• Nearing Coda...
• Humanphagia bows out
• Final Break-in
• Endgame
• More endgame
• Third perspective
• Fine.
• Near final survivor count

~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 22:06, 4 September 2010 (BST)

Result

I would change the result section, which currently reads "Zombie Victory". I would change it into something like "Zombies overwhelmed the survivors after 12 days" giving it more of a summary. Reasoning behind this is that modern sieges aren't about victory or loss in the traditional sense, back in the early years of UD. Sieges can never be won by survivors, it's about lasting as long as they can.--Thadeous Oakley 21:23, 31 August 2010 (BST)

too many quotes

that is all. -- LEMON #1 00:54, 1 September 2010 (BST)

This is what I get for saying "free to edit" : /. Don't worry, I'll trim them down to the better ones. ~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 00:55, 1 September 2010 (BST)

My line wasn't really all that memorable.--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 05:36, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Maybe turn any that fit into pithy entry sections under each header. --  RoosterDragon  06:52, 1 September 2010 (BST)

You mean like an opening quote for each section? Good idea. ~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 06:54, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Yeah, that looks mucho better. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:01, 1 September 2010 (BST)

One Final Point

26th of August was the date of the largest break in we suffered (other than the final attack) we had 18 zombies inside against 70 survivors. Cading was impossible, and it was only a massed combat revive that kept us in the fight. Desperate times, as the doors were wide open and we had been bellowed! Soon after this the rrf, and the constables particularly started hitting the trp's instead. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:18, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Relevant, pretty mental screenshot --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:19, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Pointless fact

Approximately 500 DNA extractors were discarded during the siege. If we'd used them to barricade we might have lasted another day! --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:48, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Well if we want worthless:

12:48, 27 August 2010 (BST) 25.96 MHz: "... crossing Ridleybank now, can see over a hundred down there ... a horde of over a hundred outside the Blackmore Building ... a few buildings with lights on ... most of the buildings are ruined ..." (2 hours and 28 minutes ago)

--  RoosterDragon  12:11, 1 September 2010 (BST)

more (probably unwelcome) input

I think it's coming along nicely, I'd suggest adding some fun RPing images in there, just like what was done with the older battles, and maybe putting the interviews onto a separate page, but leaving a few select questions/answers from the more memorable users interviewed liek glob and irish and shit. A lot of the other people I like, but honestly, don't care about what they have to say ;D Just my opinion on style and aesthetics atm. -- LEMON #1 15:40, 4 September 2010 (BST)

Good Lord... What have I gotten myself into?

Just kidding. I've been busy this week and might actually have some time to polish it up over Labor Day weekend. If you have any images in particular, go ahead and post/suggest them. ~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 20:14, 4 September 2010 (BST)

Bellow

Sorry, where's this arbitrary 22% come from? The screenshot shows 21*21, which is 441. That's only 4.41% of the city. Surely I'm right? I can see no reason it would be 22%, because that would be 22 suburbs.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:07, 4 September 2010 (BST)

User talk:Red Hawk One/Sandbox 3#In The Big Prick's defense.... Third Comment =/. ~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 21:20, 4 September 2010 (BST)

I knew it. Disgraceful...--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:23, 4 September 2010 (BST)

oooooooooooooooooooooooooopppppppps! I always was untrustable. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:29, 4 September 2010 (BST)

Well, there goes your support in next months Bureaucrat election. You might as well resign now. :( --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:37, 4 September 2010 (BST)

And concede to anyone else? Never. Be nice to me or I'll demote you on the dil wiki. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:50, 4 September 2010 (BST)

=O Nevar! But seriously, that website needs transparency. Half the mods haven't edited a page since March.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:02, 4 September 2010 (BST)