UDWiki talk:Administration/Policy Discussion/Off-Site Requests for Admin Actions (2)

See previous policy discussion, especially the discussion in the last section. The community has made it clear that it prefers to have as little off-site requests as possible, so I've revised the proposal.

In the new proposal, off-site requests are generally shunned and sternly limited to actions on behalf of banned users and to scheduled actions. In addition, several administrative actions are defined that are too sensitive to ever be allowed for off-site requests.

As the old proposal was up for nearly 2 weeks before going to vote, and since the revision discussion has been running for three days, this one will already go up for voting tonight before the server clock ticks over, in order to lose as little time as possible. -- Spiderzed█ 14:24, 3 June 2011 (BST)

Crit 7

But the only time a user would be making an offsite deletion request would be a crit 7, which already is a scheduled deletion, so I don't really see this curbing off-site requests at all, which seems to be what you're going for.--Yonnua Koponen ^{T G P} ^^^ 14:26, 3 June 2011 (BST)

It's not. What is scheduled is Crit 7 by proxy, which is defined as If a user leaves a sysop a note on their (i.e the sysop's) talk page requesting deletion of a page that falls under Crit 7 - which is still on-site and thus confirmable, just on the wrong page. -- Spiderzed█ 14:34, 3 June 2011 (BST)

That's not actually the full crit 7 by proxy, but w/e. If this doesn't include crit 7, then it goes against UDwiki's copyright policy, precedent for off-site deletion requests, etc. It's also really, really stupid.--Yonnua Koponen ^{T G P} ^^^ 14:38, 3 June 2011 (BST)

Eurgh

I do not agree with this in the slightest. Sysops are (meant to be) trusted users, and when they claim responsibility for doing something they were asked elsewhere, it should be given that leeway. Curbing the ability for a sysop to do what's asked of them without it going through the increasing levels of red tape is a bad idea. Ops who act on off-site requests should be responsible for ensuring that they can verify the validity of said requests, but should be permitted to act on them. 15:26, 3 June 2011 (BST)

He's making determinations that justify his opinion instead of reading the actual votes or letting the discussion/vote go long enough to have really had community input that is qualitative. Can't be suprised really, he was trying to do it throughout the last discussion too but there he was claiming it was a compromise to the status quo. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 19:35, 3 June 2011 (BST)