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'''Note:''' I started this back when the second to last bid to repeal my ban was underway. I already regret it, and might not go "live" with it. I really just kinda want to see what it ends up looking like. Your concerns are appreciated. Please press 5 to replay this menu.
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If you haven't seen the infamous lists of [http://cracked.com Cracked.com] - well, you're probably very lucky. They cover things like ''"Top 10 Toys You Didn't Know Gave You STDs"'' and ''"Five Real Life Global Conspiracies That Involved A Lubed Up Ocelot."''
If you haven't seen the infamous lists of [http://cracked.com Cracked.com] - well, you're probably very lucky. They cover things like ''"Top 10 Toys You Didn't Know Gave You STDs"'' and ''"Five Real Life Global Conspiracies That Involved A Lubed Up Ocelot."''
In the grand tradition of Amazing bitch fits, allow me to now present a weird, disturbing, third-person self-love session.


==Top 10 Amazing Myths You Probably Believe==
==Top 10 Amazing Myths You Probably Believe==


Amazing! The name strikes fear and/or rage and/or boners into the hearts of all those who hear it spoken. One of the UDWiki's greatest villains ran rampant for years before he was ultimately vanquished in an epic struggle. His corpse was then dumped into Mt. Doom, where we can only assume he gave the very Earth itself a terrible stomach ache.
Amazing! The name strikes fear and/or rage and/or boners into the hearts of all those who hear it spoken. One of the UDWiki's greatest villains, he ran rampant before he was vanquished in an epic struggle. His corpse was then dumped into Mt. Doom, where we can only assume he gave the very Earth itself a terrible stomach ache.


Perhaps, though, the strange events surrounding this user might be worth a second look.
Perhaps, though, the strange events surrounding this user might be worth a second look...


===10.) Amazing Was A Vandal===
===10.) Amazing Was A Vandal===
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:'''Although...''' Amazing never committed intentional and/or literal "vandalism".
:'''Although...''' Amazing never committed intentional and/or literal "vandalism".


Not once was Amazing warned or banned for wantonly defacing, blanking, or "penis penis penis"ing a single page.
Amazing was never warned or banned for wantonly defacing, blanking, or "penis penis penis"ing a single page.
 
Amazing's early warnings were for infractions such as re-adding deleted suggestions. Keep in mind that this was not the refined suggestion system you know today. Rules were sketchy and someone could delete your work without moving it to "Peer Rejected", which ''didn't exist''.


Later on he was warned for moving comments from a main page to the talk page... and for "impersonating" others by writing comedic quotes and attributing it to spoof versions of their usernames. (Not even their actual usernames.)
The early warnings were for odd infractions such as re-adding deleted suggestions. Rules were slightly less than clear about this, back then.


All of that is pretty tame... It'd probably be better to just let you continue thinking Amazing was a cruel despot, actually.
Later, he was warned for moving comments to a talk page and for impersonating others by writing comedic quotes attributed to spoofs usernames.


He was taken to task for things on his userpage or user talk page. That's a bit like being sent to prison for writing dirty limricks on your own bathroom wall.
Actually, that's all pretty lame. It's almost better to think him a cruel, unholy despot.


Which Amazing... uh... totally doesn't spend hours doing...
He was also taken to task for things on his userpage or user talk page. That's like being arrested for writing dirty limricks on your bathroom wall.


Whether or not you agree that infractions were minimal and guidelines were loose, it would still be hard to draw a line from Amazing's missteps to intentional and/or the classic concept of vandalism.
Which he... uh... totally doesn't spend ''hours'' doing...


You can still agree with the warnings and bans without believing Amazing was an actual "vandal".
You can agree with the warnings without believing Amazing was an actual "vandal" in certain terms.




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:'''Although...''' He was probably one of the least "serious" users on the wiki.
:'''Although...''' He was probably one of the least "serious" users on the wiki.


Make no mistake, Amazing didn't shrink away when people defaced his pages, insulted his friends, followed him from page to page spewing insults, and meddled in his activities outside the site. However, he was also more than capable of seeing the humor in the situation.
Amazing didn't like when folks defaced his pages, insulted his friends, followed him around spewing insults, and even bothered him outside the site. However, he was also more than capable of seeing the humor in the situation.


Before the drama exploded, Amazing was the creator of several humorous suggestions. These included everything from keeping zombies as pets to drawing on idle players' faces with magic marker... which... almost passed peer review, somehow.
Before the drama exploded, Amazing was the creator of several humorous suggestions. These included keeping zombies as pets and drawing on idle players' faces with magic marker. (The latter even nearly made it to "Peer Reviewed"!)


He also happened to create [[McZeds|McZed's]], based entirely on turning zombie meat into fast food... a joke group that a lot of people ''actually joined'' and added to for years after Amazing's departure.
He also created [[McZeds|McZed's]], a joke group based on turning zombie meat into fast food... one that people ''actually joined'' and added to for years after Amazing's departure.


Even after the drama was in full-force and Amazing was countering accusations and trying to avoid the vandalism of others, he uploaded a photo of himself with "666" on his forehead.
Even after the drama was in full-force, he uploaded a photo of himself with "666" on his forehead. The purpose of that image was to create a template that was drowned in hot gobs of sarcasm.
 
The purpose of that image, by the way, was to create an "Amazing Fan Club" template that was drowned in hot gobs of sarcasm.


<center>{{AmazingFan}}
<center>{{AmazingFan}}
''Above: Humorless egotism.''</center>
''Above: Humorless egotism.''</center>


The only thing Amazing took seriously on the UDWiki was the never-ending trolling that prevented him from contributing anything of value to the site.
The only thing Amazing took seriously was the never-ending trolling that prevented him from contributing anything of value to the site.




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:'''Although...''' "Amazing Hate" was the passtime of a loud minority.
:'''Although...''' "Amazing Hate" was the passtime of a loud minority.


With tons of UDWiki users at the time, do you really believe the majority - even a ''slim'' majority - gave a hot crap about Amazing one way or another?
With tons of UDWiki users at the time, do you really believe the majority gave a hot crap about Amazing one way or another?
 
He [[Crossman Defense Force|one of the largest groups in the game]], and never had any issues with those in the group. For months he issued directives and maintained the wiki page and forum without a single user voicing any problems with him or his methods.
 
It sure didn't ''seem'' like he couldn't control himself.


Amazing co-ran [[Crossman Defense Force|one of the largest groups in the game]], and never had any issues with those in the group. For months he issued directives and maintained the wiki page and forum without a single user voicing any problems with him or his methods.
He also never had problems with anyone who didn't approach him first. There was not a single instance of Amazing following users around, trying to pick a fight.


Amazing never had any problems with anyone who didn't come to him. There was not a single instance of Amazing following users around trying to pick a fight.
All disagreements can be traced back to another user taking exception to one of his group's rules, a griefer deciding to have "fun", someone taking his suggestions too seriously, or people jumping into an argument that Amazing was already having.


Any and all disagreements can be traced back to another user taking exception to one of Amazing's group rules and voicing their discontent, a griefer deciding to have "fun", someone taking one of his suggestions way too seriously, or people jumping into an argument that Amazing was already having with someone else.
One member of the group that first sought to grief Amazing later became a casual contact. They speak from time to time, and the former rival has lent assistance in one of Amazing's games.


One member of the group that first sought to grief Amazing even became a casual contact. The two speak now and again about different subjects, and the former rival has even lent assistance in one of Amazing's games.
With the attempts at griefing out of the mix, there's no reason for the two to dislike each other.


Even after he was banned, multiple users and SysOps still risked retribution by defending Amazing... and yes, they DID suffer retribution.
Even after he was banned, multiple users and SysOps still risked retribution by defending Amazing... and yes, they DID suffer retribution.


Users who defended Amazing were labelled as Amazing alts and were typically given the same treatment. Even random vandals who appeared were called "Amazing", back to do "more vandalism".
Users who defended Amazing were labelled as Amazing's alts and were given the same harsh treatment. Even new users brought up on vandalism charges were called "Amazing".


Once, a former SysOp came aboard as the official programmer of another one of Amazing's games, and was soon after... uh... banned from the UDWiki.
A former SysOp came aboard as the official programmer of another one of Amazing's games, and soon after... you see where this is going... he was ''banned from the UDWiki.''


Being a friend to Amazing was clearly a bull's eye, but it didn't stop the most outspoken critics of what had taken place.
It seems someone as bad as Amazing was made out to be probably wouldn't have a friend in the world - much less friends willing to take a bullet to speak in his defence.




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:'''Although...''' The largest targetting of Amazing was based entirely on the fact that some people saw him in-game and thought it would be funny to annoy him.
:'''Although...''' The largest targetting of Amazing was based entirely on the fact that some people saw him in-game and thought it would be funny to annoy him.


Surely I'm exaggerating, right? Not quite. Here's an abridged quote:
Surely I'm exaggerating, right? Here's an abridged quote:


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From the outside, it looked as if Amazing was an antagonistic monster who was now recieving his comeuppance. At the very least it seemed like a few griefers and vandals were drawn to him because he was such a dick. In actuality, a handful of people who grief others as a passtime saw Amazing trying to play the game effectively and figured he was "zealous".
It looked as if Amazing was an antagonistic monster who was recieving his comeuppance. At the very least it seemed like griefers and vandals were drawn to his bile. In actuality, a handful of people who grief others as a passtime saw Amazing trying to play the game effectively and figured he was "zealous".


It was assumed that although the people bothering Amazing were being crude and obnoxious, it was only because Amazing encouraged them to do it. The fact was that Amazing's part in the drama started out small and ramped up steadily as it became clear no one was going to stop the insanity.
Although the people bothering Amazing were being crude and obnoxious, it was supposedly because Amazing encouraged them to do it. The fact was that Amazing's part in the drama started out small and ramped up gradually when no one was willing to stop the insanity.


What followed was some pretty awesome bandwagon jumping from unrelated users. After all, Amazing had to be wrong if more than one person hated him enough to perpetually follow him around and hurl insults. Right?
What followed was bandwagon jumping from unrelated users. After all, Amazing had to be wrong if more than one person hated him. Right?


This was best evidenced when SysOps apologized for making assumptions based on the number of people against Amazing. In other instances, new users who were at first clamoring to help later started joining in on the beating.
On the contrary. A couple SysOps even apologized for making assumptions based on the number of people against Amazing.


In fact, at least two of these folks were promoted to SysOp status soon after shifting positions.
In other instances, new users who were at first clamoring to help Amazing later started joining in on the beating. Some of those folks were promoted to SysOp status soon after shifting positions.


When Amazing was banned, many of those griefing him immediately left the UDWiki. Their goal had been accomplished, so they no longer had any reason to use the site.
When Amazing was banned, many of those griefing him immediately left the UDWiki. Their goal had been accomplished, and they no longer had any reason to use the site.




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Here are a few suggestions Amazing made that would later make their way into the game...
Here are a few suggestions Amazing made that would later make their way into the game...
#Binoculars
#Binoculars
#Feeding Groan
#Feeding Groan
#Defile
#Defile
#And probably others to be added here later...
#Hanging Crucifixes on walls (whaaaat?)
#And more...


More sit in the "Peer Approved" area of the suggestion pool.
Other suggestions sit in "Peer Approved".


And speaking of suggestions... did you know that Amazing suggested the numbered "For/Aganst" format for voting? That's right. Numbering votes and seperating them into "For" and "Against" was proposed by Amazing for better Suggestion voting, and has since been applied to more.
Speaking of suggestions... did you know that Amazing suggested the numbered "For/Aganst" format for voting? Numbering votes and seperating them into "For" and "Against" was proposed by Amazing for clearer and easier Suggestion voting. It has since been applied to other processes as well.


(Amazing can often be spotted wandering the highways in soiled, tattered clothing, shouting "They owe me for numbers!" at the passing cars.)
(Amazing can often be spotted wandering the highways in soiled, tattered clothing, shouting "They owe me for numbers!" at the passing cars.)
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Plus, have you heard of the Sacred Gound Policy? Amazing did that, too. You know, the page with the tremendous list of supporters that spawned other similar and opposing policies.
Plus, have you heard of the Sacred Gound Policy? Amazing did that, too. You know, the page with the tremendous list of supporters that spawned other similar and opposing policies.


That's not even counting all the incidental acts of reverting and reporting vandals and spambots, correcting mistakes on pages, making graphics for other people to use, maintaining multiple pages, and a bunch of other crap nobody cares about.
That's not even counting all the reverting of vandalism, reporting vandals and spambots, correcting mistakes on pages, making graphics for other people to use, maintaining multiple pages, and a bunch of other crap nobody cares about.
 
Of course, all we remember is the negative... like the time your Mom made you eat liver vs. all the times she brought home Pizza.


Keep in mind that all the positive contributions Amazing made were between early December 2005 and very early June 2006.
All we remember is the negative... like the time your Mom made you eat liver vs. all the times she brought home Pizza.


That's a window of about six months in which Amazing first learned how to use a wiki, fended off abuse, and still created multiple concepts still in use six years later.
All the positive contributions Amazing made were between early December 2005 and very early June 2006. That's a window of about ''six months'' in which Amazing first learned how to use a wiki, fended off abuse, and still created multiple concepts still in use ''six years'' later.




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:'''Although...''' He won a lot of those supposedly "false" cases, and always provided evidence.
:'''Although...''' He won a lot of those supposedly "false" cases, and always provided evidence.


Amazing gained a reputation for "absuing" the Vandalism, Misconduct, and Arbitration pages... places he went to solicit the assistance of SysOps. Most of this was before there were solid guidelines on what you could or couldn't post, or how many times you could post.
Amazing gained a reputation for "absuing" the Vandalism, Misconduct, and Arbitration pages... which he used to solicit the assistance of SysOps. Most of this was before there were solid guidelines on what you could or couldn't report, and how often you could make reports.


In early wiki history, this even occurred when Amazing and ''one other user'' were having a disagreement over who had the right to edit Amazing's pages. Amazing was rebuffed just for posting reports about the other user.
In early wiki history, Amazing was even rebuffed for posting reports about one other user, who was ''actively defacing his pages'' even after reports had been made.


At one infamous point, Amazing filed an arbitration case when a SysOp personally insulted him. However, it should be noted that one of the guidelines for SysOps ''specifically stated that they shouldn't do that''.
Perhaps the most infamous report of the time was when Amazing filed an arbitration case when a SysOp who personally insulted him. That sounds horrible, however, one of the guidelines for SysOps ''specifically stated that they shouldn't do that''.


Also... you guessed it... Amazing won that case.
Amazing actually avoided reporting this as Misconduct and took a the more reasonable approach of Arbitration. He also won that case.


Then the SysOp violated the ruling and was banned. Oops.
Then the SysOp violated the ruling and was banned. Yikes.


This all proved shortsighted, however. It didn't help people abide by the guidelines, but instead caused some guidelines to be rewritten. It also didn't help when certain SysOps joined the bandwagon of griefing Amazing, one even going so far as to post where Amazing lived.
This all proved shortsighted, however. It didn't make people abide by the guidelines, but instead caused some guidelines to be rewritten. It also didn't help when certain SysOps joined the bandwagon of griefing Amazing, one even going so far as to post where he lived.


As for those "false" vandalism cases, most of those were also decided in Amazing's favor. Amazing never filed about something that didn't ''happen'', be it judged vandalism or not.
As for those "false" vandalism cases, most of those were decided in Amazing's favor. Amazing never filed about something that didn't ''happen'', be it judged vandalism or not.


As with most other strikes against Amazing, the glut of vandalism, arbitration, and misconduct cases only really became a "problem" when the organized group of griefers decided to make it a point and continually refer to it.
The glut of vandalism, arbitration, and misconduct cases only really became a "problem" when the group of griefers decided to make it a point by continually referring to it.


Sort of like a Geico commerical, but annoying.
Sort of like a Geico commerical, but annoying.
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:'''Although...''' Amazing had time for one real SysOp action, it was not against guidelines, and it had been done by another SysOp right beforehand.
:'''Although...''' Amazing had time for one real SysOp action, it was not against guidelines, and it had been done by another SysOp right beforehand.


During the drama surrounding Amazing, a UDWiki user uploaded a photo of Tim Curry from the Rocky Horror Picture show, and slapped the image on a template questioning Amazing's sexuality.
During a particularly silly scuffle with Amazing, a UDWiki user uploaded a photo of Tim Curry from the Rocky Horror Picture show, and slapped the image on a template questioning Amazing's sexuality.


Guffaw.
''Guffaw.''


The image was immediately deleted by a SysOp since it was uploaded specifically to attack another user in a defamatory template.
The image was immediately deleted by a SysOp since it was uploaded specifically to attack another user in a defamatory template.


At that point there was aboslutely no guideline about deleting images. There was no process to elect them for removal, and no rules on the subject.
At that point there were no guidelines about deleting images. There was no process to elect them for removal, and no rules on the subject.


Flash forward a short while. Amazing is made a SysOp, and everyone is livid about it.
Flash forward a short while. Amazing was made a SysOp, and everyone was shitting squid. I'm not even kidding, they pooped fully formed, live squids with laser eyes and a penchant for murder.


In the same manner as above, a UDWiki user uploads an image and slaps it on a template questioning Amazing's sexuality. Because there are apparently no other insults out there.
In the same manner as previous, a UDWiki user uploaded an image and slapped it on a template questioning Amazing's sexuality. Because there are apparently no other insults out there.


Amazing removes the image, and ''Ka-Boosh!'' He's removed from SysOp status, and everyone dances around the digital maypole singing songs of liberation from the tyrannical beast.
Amazing removed the image, and ''Ka-Boosh!'' He was removed from SysOp status. Then everyone danced around the digital maypole singing songs of liberation.


The SysOp who removed Amazing's status reconsidered the situation and stated that if any other SysOps agreed with the image deletion, he'd restore Amazing's position.
The SysOp who removed Amazing's status reconsidered the situation and stated that if any other SysOps agreed with the image deletion, he'd restore Amazing's position.
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In addition, there was an unwritten policy of deleting any files uploaded that violated copyright. This was applied inconsistantly at best, but was another reason for the image removal above.
In addition, there was an unwritten policy of deleting any files uploaded that violated copyright. This was applied inconsistantly at best, but was another reason for the image removal above.


Instead of "Yeah, we should get on copyright infringement more..." the reaction was "Holy crap, Amazing's gonna make us get on copyright infringement more!!"
Instead of "We should get on copyright infringement more..." the reaction was "Holy crap, Amazing's gonna make us get on copyright infringement more!"


Amazing went down in UDWiki history as one of the only SysOps to never commit misconduct.
Thusly, Amazing went down in UDWiki history as one of the only SysOps to never commit misconduct.


OOHHH! '''SNAP.''' :D
OOHHH! '''SNAP.''' :D
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Remember the scenerio above where Amazing was warned for re-adding suggestions that were deleted?
Remember the scenerio above where Amazing was warned for re-adding suggestions that were deleted?


Well, that wasn't actually against the "suggestion re-adding rules", which '''didn't exist'''. You can't "know what you're getting into" if there's nothing to educate you about things that are entirely subjective.
Well, that wasn't actually against the "suggestion re-adding rules", which '''didn't exist'''. You can't "know what you're getting into" if there's nothing to educate you, and common sense says that if it wasn't allowed, they'd have a disclaimer.
 
The rule of the land for the wiki was essentially "If you do something wrong, we'll just let you know with a blemish on your record that lasts ''FOREVEERRRR''."


As previously stated, Amazing actually got judgements against him for ''editing his own user and talk pages''... which, at the time, were clearly stated to be the user's personal space.
The rule of the land for the wiki was: "If you do something wrong, we'll let you know with a blemish on your record that lasts ''FOREVER''."


In one instance, someone trolled Amazing on a page, and he moved it to the corresponding talk page. This was deemed wrong because Amazing hadn't told people he was going to do it. A similar thing occurred when Amazing simply moved text on his talk page to an archive. He had archived it "too soon".
Amazing actually got judgements against him for ''editing his own user and talk pages''... which were clearly stated to be the user's personal space.


Plus, let's face it. If Amazing "knew what he was getting into" and didn't care... why not just boldly go around defacing and blanking the pages of people he disliked? Amazing clearly didn't want to "get himself banned", as he was going out of his way to try to get the attention of SysOps, hoping they would squash problems he was having.
In one instance, Amazing moved chatter on a main page to the corresponding talk page. This was deemed vandlism because Amazing hadn't told people he was going to do it. A similar thing occurred when Amazing simply moved text on his talk page to an archive. He had supposedly archived it "too soon".


Hell, it probably would've been a lot less aggrivating to just wantonly deface stuff...
Let's face it. If Amazing "knew what he was getting into" and didn't care... why not just go around defacing and blanking pages? Amazing clearly didn't want to "get himself banned", since he was going out of his way to try to get SysOps involved in what was happening.


It sure as heck would've saved all the trouble of making up stuff to ban him for.
Hell, it probably would've been a lot less aggrivating to wantonly deface stuff... It sure would've saved all the trouble of making up stuff to ban him for.


<nowiki>:O</nowiki> Gasp! Oh no he di-in't.
''Oh no he di-in't.''




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:'''Although...''' It was one case he filed, and he won parts of it.
:'''Although...''' It was one case he filed, and he won parts of it.


When Amazing was tired of all the grief, before breaking down and posting the "bike" joke, he filed a single arbitration case against the people who were following him from page to page and even off the site.
When Amazing was tired of the grief, before posting the "bike" joke, he filed a single arbitration case against the people who were following him from page to page and preventing him from using this resource.


In an effort to "help", a SysOp split the single case into many cases and created "WikiGate".
In an effort to "help", a SysOp split the single case into many cases and created "WikiGate".


Each new case addressed a single part of the overall complaint. This created a near unmanagable mess and solidified Amazing's reputation as a nutcase who filed tons of cases.
Each new case addressed a single part of the overall complaint. This created an unmanagable mess while solidifying Amazing's reputation as a nutcase.


The process was further muddied, purposefully, by some of those charged. These users edited Amazing's text, spammed the process with unrelated discussion, and in some cases ''refused every single arbitrator'' to make cases unresolvable. That tactic stuck, causing some of the cases to remain unarbitrated ''to this very day''.
The process was further muddied by some of those charged. These users edited Amazing's text, spammed the process with unrelated discussion, and in some cases ''refused every single arbitrator'' to make cases unresolvable. The last tactic stuck, and some of the cases to remain unarbitrated ''to this day''.


What's worse, when the SysOp split the case up, he included people Amazing ''hadn't even made the case against''. This not only created more confusion but also further painted Amazing in a poor light as he had to "drop" cases he hadn't even created.
What's worse, when the case was split, it erroniously included people Amazing ''hadn't even made the case against''. This created more confusion and forced Amazing to "drop" cases he hadn't even started.


In the end, a few of the cases were indeed decided in Amazing's favor. When rulings were violated by others, however, Amazing had to file other reports about the violations... making nobody happy.
In the end, a few of the cases were indeed decided in Amazing's favor. Others weren't. When rulings were violated by others, Amazing had to file more reports about the violations... making nobody happy.




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:'''Although...''' Amazing repeated everything that was said about him... in a condensed form... on his personal user page... as satire... and as a form of protest.
:'''Although...''' Amazing repeated everything that was said about him... in a condensed form... on his personal user page... as satire... and as a form of protest.


We should probably go back to the SysOp who told people how to find Amazing's home address... or the people who reset Amazing's password several hundred times... or the fact that some "jokingly" claimed they'd only stop harrassing Amazing if he paid them.
I'd prefer to whine about the SysOp who told people how to find Amazing's home address... or the people who reset Amazing's password several hundred times... or the fact that some "jokingly" claimed they'd only stop the harrassment if he paid them.


Instead, I suppose we have to focus on Amazing's infamous "Bike Riding" joke.
Instead, I suppose we have to focus on the "Bike Riding" joke.


At the height of the drama, it was very common for detractors to post vivid descriptions of Amazing's epic sexual activities. If we were to believe them, Amazing must have been quite the c*ck-sucking, child-f*cking, semen-beared nympho who forced all of his teammates into sexual activities due to his insatiable omnierotic whims.
At the height of the drama, it was common for detractors to post vivid descriptions of Amazing's epic sexual activities. C*ck-sucking, child-f*cking, '''nothing''' was off-limits, and everything was allowed - sometimes encouraged - by SysOps.


In case you missed that, they decided to say he was a pedophile on more than one occasion. Somehow, pretending you have a dirty movie must be worse.
In case you missed that, they simply decided to say he was a pedophile. (Somehow, pretending you have dirty pictures must be worse.)


The preceeding vulgarity was spread across talk pages, group pages, userpages, etc. Anywhere it was possible to place text was an acceptable spot to bash Amazing in the most vile, obscene, and hateful ways.
The vulgarity was spread across talk pages, group pages, userpages, etc. Anywhere it was possible to place text was an acceptable spot to bash Amazing in the most vile, obscene, and hateful ways.


However, when Amazing gave in and tried a last ditch effort to bring attention to the issue, he was banned. (First infinitely, then for 365 days.) It didn't exactly open the debate or effect the policy change he he expected.
However, when Amazing gave in and tried a last ditch effort to force change, he was banned. (First infinitely, then for 365 days.) It didn't exactly open the debate he expected or effect positive policy change. -- Policy change he specifically said he was going for ''at the very time'' of the post.


Policy change he specifically said he was going for ''at the very time'' surrounding the post.
Here is the "Bike Riding" quote. Replace references to bikes with references to genetalia and sexual acts:
 
Here now is the "Bike Riding" version of the quote. Replace references to bikes with references to genetalia and sexual acts:


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It might be worth noting that there was a certain mutual discontent between Amazing and both of the SysOps quoted... this was coming from people who undoubtedly would have preferred Amazing was banned.
It might be worth noting that there was a certain mutual discontent between Amazing and both SysOps quoted... this came from people who would have ''preferred'' Amazing was banned.
 
Almost immediately after posting the dirty version, Amazing decided not to sink to that level. Of his own volition, he took the profanity out and replaced it with bicycle references. This did nothing to stop people from running with it.


Almost immediately after posting the dirty version, Amazing decided he didn't really want to sink to that level. Of his own volition, he took the profanity out and replaced it with bicycle references. Of course, that did nothing to stop people from running with it.
Users and SysOps alike seized the opportunity and began to figure out how to ban Amazing forever. They ended up with the "Terms of Service" for Kevan's webhost. Terms of Service that Wiki users had neither agreed to be bound by, nor even ''seen''.


Multiple users and SysOps began to figure out how to ban Amazing for this, and they ended up with the "Terms of Service" for Kevan's webhost. Terms of Service Wiki users had neither agreed to be bound by, nor even ''seen''. In fact, I still haven't seen it if anyone can provide a link...
In fact, I still haven't seen it if anyone can provide a link...


Alledgedly somewhere in to the ToS was a guideline against posting and selling porn, using hatespeech, posting obscenity, etc.
Alledgedly somewhere in to the ToS was a guideline against posting and selling porn, using hatespeech, obscenity, etc.


(Posting copyrighted images, as per #4 on the list, would actually be more likely to get the site taken down.)
(Posting copyrighted images, as per #4 on the list, would actually be more likely to get the site taken down.)


Though this was thought a tremendous infraction, SysOps mulled this over and hashed it out for about three days as Amazing went about his merry business. ''Before a verdict was even reached'', a long absent SysOp was called back to ban Amazing.
SysOps mulled this over and hashed it out for about three days as Amazing went about his merry business. ''Before a verdict was even reached'', a long absent SysOp was called back to ban Amazing.


It's possible that no verdict was actually brought down to this very day, which probably renders the entire thing illegitimate. But as they say... all's fair in love, war, and wiki editing.
It's possible that no verdict was actually brought down to this very day, which probably renders the entire thing illegitimate. All's fair in love, war, and wiki editing.


Amazing's record was even altered ''after'' his ban in order to achieve a lengthy banishment.
Amazing's record was even altered ''after'' his ban in order to achieve a lengthy banishment.


The main arguement seemed to be that Amazing was legitimately trying to sell pornography on the UDWiki, or it would be seen that way by the webhost, though it was clearly satire.
The main arguement was that Amazing legitimately tried to sell porn on the UDWiki - or that it would be seen that way - though it was clearly satire.


From this we can only infer that Amazing is actually the biggest misunderstood activist of our time! ... No?
From this we can only infer that Amazing is actually the biggest misunderstood activist of our time! ... No?
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The biggest lesson to take away from this debacle is that all it took was a handful of people to decide you'd be fun to mess with, and you were screwed. Your only options were to quit and go away, let them do whatever they want to your work as you sit around undoing it, or... fight back. All three options are pretty ridiculous.
The biggest lesson to take away from this debacle is that all it took was a handful of people to decide you'd be fun to mess with, and you were screwed. Your only options were to quit and go away, let them do whatever they want to your work as you sit around undoing it, or... fight back and get banned.


When it's ten people verses one, it will always be easier to remove the single person. After all, logic dictates he ''must'' be the problem, right?
When it's ten people verses one, it will always be easier to remove the single person. It's easier to keep one non-vandal banned than it is to watch out for several griefers and vandals who do this sort of thing all the time for fun.


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Revision as of 04:28, 5 May 2011

If you haven't seen the infamous lists of Cracked.com - well, you're probably very lucky. They cover things like "Top 10 Toys You Didn't Know Gave You STDs" and "Five Real Life Global Conspiracies That Involved A Lubed Up Ocelot."

Top 10 Amazing Myths You Probably Believe

Amazing! The name strikes fear and/or rage and/or boners into the hearts of all those who hear it spoken. One of the UDWiki's greatest villains, he ran rampant before he was vanquished in an epic struggle. His corpse was then dumped into Mt. Doom, where we can only assume he gave the very Earth itself a terrible stomach ache.

Perhaps, though, the strange events surrounding this user might be worth a second look...

10.) Amazing Was A Vandal

What You Know: No mercy! No quarter! The minute Amazing started vandalizing people's pages, he lost any chance of being respected. You don't go around defacing other people's stuff unless you're a total tool - and that's what Amazing was.
Although... Amazing never committed intentional and/or literal "vandalism".

Amazing was never warned or banned for wantonly defacing, blanking, or "penis penis penis"ing a single page.

The early warnings were for odd infractions such as re-adding deleted suggestions. Rules were slightly less than clear about this, back then.

Later, he was warned for moving comments to a talk page and for impersonating others by writing comedic quotes attributed to spoofs usernames.

Actually, that's all pretty lame. It's almost better to think him a cruel, unholy despot.

He was also taken to task for things on his userpage or user talk page. That's like being arrested for writing dirty limricks on your bathroom wall.

Which he... uh... totally doesn't spend hours doing...

You can agree with the warnings without believing Amazing was an actual "vandal" in certain terms.


09.) Amazing Took Everything Too Seriously

What You Know: Hell, Amazing might've been a likable guy under other circumstances, but the main problem with him is that he took Urban Dead and the UDWiki waaaayyyy too seriously. It's just a game, and he lost sight of that. The basement-dwelling man-child should've put on some pants, dropped the Doritos, and gone outside for once.
Although... He was probably one of the least "serious" users on the wiki.

Amazing didn't like when folks defaced his pages, insulted his friends, followed him around spewing insults, and even bothered him outside the site. However, he was also more than capable of seeing the humor in the situation.

Before the drama exploded, Amazing was the creator of several humorous suggestions. These included keeping zombies as pets and drawing on idle players' faces with magic marker. (The latter even nearly made it to "Peer Reviewed"!)

He also created McZed's, a joke group based on turning zombie meat into fast food... one that people actually joined and added to for years after Amazing's departure.

Even after the drama was in full-force, he uploaded a photo of himself with "666" on his forehead. The purpose of that image was to create a template that was drowned in hot gobs of sarcasm.

Amazing 666sm.gif Amazing Fan Club Member
This User is officially a devoted fan of longtime Wiki contributor Amazing and his lovely beard!
Above: Humorless egotism.

The only thing Amazing took seriously was the never-ending trolling that prevented him from contributing anything of value to the site.


08.) Everyone Hated/Hates Amazing

What You Know: Amazing's all-pervasive ass-rage was so overwhelming that entire UDWiki gathered together to expunge him. The man was universally hated, and rightly so. If his own mother played Urban Dead, her wiki name would've been "ShouldaAborted223".
Although... "Amazing Hate" was the passtime of a loud minority.

With tons of UDWiki users at the time, do you really believe the majority gave a hot crap about Amazing one way or another?

He one of the largest groups in the game, and never had any issues with those in the group. For months he issued directives and maintained the wiki page and forum without a single user voicing any problems with him or his methods.

It sure didn't seem like he couldn't control himself.

He also never had problems with anyone who didn't approach him first. There was not a single instance of Amazing following users around, trying to pick a fight.

All disagreements can be traced back to another user taking exception to one of his group's rules, a griefer deciding to have "fun", someone taking his suggestions too seriously, or people jumping into an argument that Amazing was already having.

One member of the group that first sought to grief Amazing later became a casual contact. They speak from time to time, and the former rival has lent assistance in one of Amazing's games.

With the attempts at griefing out of the mix, there's no reason for the two to dislike each other.

Even after he was banned, multiple users and SysOps still risked retribution by defending Amazing... and yes, they DID suffer retribution.

Users who defended Amazing were labelled as Amazing's alts and were given the same harsh treatment. Even new users brought up on vandalism charges were called "Amazing".

A former SysOp came aboard as the official programmer of another one of Amazing's games, and soon after... you see where this is going... he was banned from the UDWiki.

It seems someone as bad as Amazing was made out to be probably wouldn't have a friend in the world - much less friends willing to take a bullet to speak in his defence.


07.) Amazing's Wiki Persona Ignited Drama

What You Know: You see, if Amazing had just not been such an asshole on the Wiki, people wouldn't have even noticed him! He encouraged others to antagonize him by conducting himself like a douchebag.
Although... The largest targetting of Amazing was based entirely on the fact that some people saw him in-game and thought it would be funny to annoy him.

Surely I'm exaggerating, right? Here's an abridged quote:


"A small group of us found a small guild/faction/whatever [...]. It was run by a particularly zealous leader named Amazing [...].

We spent about 2 months griefing the hell out of them, vandalizing their wiki page, etc. [...] They also fought back pretty hardcore against us on the wiki vandalization - and we got Amazing banned because of it."

(Source. Bolding supplied for this quotation.)


It looked as if Amazing was an antagonistic monster who was recieving his comeuppance. At the very least it seemed like griefers and vandals were drawn to his bile. In actuality, a handful of people who grief others as a passtime saw Amazing trying to play the game effectively and figured he was "zealous".

Although the people bothering Amazing were being crude and obnoxious, it was supposedly because Amazing encouraged them to do it. The fact was that Amazing's part in the drama started out small and ramped up gradually when no one was willing to stop the insanity.

What followed was bandwagon jumping from unrelated users. After all, Amazing had to be wrong if more than one person hated him. Right?

On the contrary. A couple SysOps even apologized for making assumptions based on the number of people against Amazing.

In other instances, new users who were at first clamoring to help Amazing later started joining in on the beating. Some of those folks were promoted to SysOp status soon after shifting positions.

When Amazing was banned, many of those griefing him immediately left the UDWiki. Their goal had been accomplished, and they no longer had any reason to use the site.


06.) All Amazing Contributed Was Drama

What You Know: Like a fat and bearded tumor, Amazing had to be surgically removed from the wiki. All he was contributing was drama, and all he did was provoke others. Really, nothing of value was lost.
Although... Amazing created the most popular user-created policy in the game, and other things you have benefited from.

Here are a few suggestions Amazing made that would later make their way into the game...

  1. Binoculars
  2. Feeding Groan
  3. Defile
  4. Hanging Crucifixes on walls (whaaaat?)
  5. And more...

Other suggestions sit in "Peer Approved".

Speaking of suggestions... did you know that Amazing suggested the numbered "For/Aganst" format for voting? Numbering votes and seperating them into "For" and "Against" was proposed by Amazing for clearer and easier Suggestion voting. It has since been applied to other processes as well.

(Amazing can often be spotted wandering the highways in soiled, tattered clothing, shouting "They owe me for numbers!" at the passing cars.)

Plus, have you heard of the Sacred Gound Policy? Amazing did that, too. You know, the page with the tremendous list of supporters that spawned other similar and opposing policies.

That's not even counting all the reverting of vandalism, reporting vandals and spambots, correcting mistakes on pages, making graphics for other people to use, maintaining multiple pages, and a bunch of other crap nobody cares about.

All we remember is the negative... like the time your Mom made you eat liver vs. all the times she brought home Pizza.

All the positive contributions Amazing made were between early December 2005 and very early June 2006. That's a window of about six months in which Amazing first learned how to use a wiki, fended off abuse, and still created multiple concepts still in use six years later.


05.) Amazing Filed False Vandalism, Arbitration, And Misconduct Cases

What You Know: It takes a real idiot to file a bunch of meaningless vandalism and arbitration cases just because someone said something mean. When you start filing misconduct cases without any basis, however, you've really gone over the edge! That's what Amazing did, and he should be ashamed!
Although... He won a lot of those supposedly "false" cases, and always provided evidence.

Amazing gained a reputation for "absuing" the Vandalism, Misconduct, and Arbitration pages... which he used to solicit the assistance of SysOps. Most of this was before there were solid guidelines on what you could or couldn't report, and how often you could make reports.

In early wiki history, Amazing was even rebuffed for posting reports about one other user, who was actively defacing his pages even after reports had been made.

Perhaps the most infamous report of the time was when Amazing filed an arbitration case when a SysOp who personally insulted him. That sounds horrible, however, one of the guidelines for SysOps specifically stated that they shouldn't do that.

Amazing actually avoided reporting this as Misconduct and took a the more reasonable approach of Arbitration. He also won that case.

Then the SysOp violated the ruling and was banned. Yikes.

This all proved shortsighted, however. It didn't make people abide by the guidelines, but instead caused some guidelines to be rewritten. It also didn't help when certain SysOps joined the bandwagon of griefing Amazing, one even going so far as to post where he lived.

As for those "false" vandalism cases, most of those were decided in Amazing's favor. Amazing never filed about something that didn't happen, be it judged vandalism or not.

The glut of vandalism, arbitration, and misconduct cases only really became a "problem" when the group of griefers decided to make it a point by continually referring to it.

Sort of like a Geico commerical, but annoying.


04.) Amazing Immediately Abused His SysOp Position

What You Know: Amazing was made a SysOp to prove he couldn't handle it. Almost immediately thereafter, he abused his abilities and was removed. The infraction was so horrible that evey the guy who promoted him was demoted! Pont proven.
Although... Amazing had time for one real SysOp action, it was not against guidelines, and it had been done by another SysOp right beforehand.

During a particularly silly scuffle with Amazing, a UDWiki user uploaded a photo of Tim Curry from the Rocky Horror Picture show, and slapped the image on a template questioning Amazing's sexuality.

Guffaw.

The image was immediately deleted by a SysOp since it was uploaded specifically to attack another user in a defamatory template.

At that point there were no guidelines about deleting images. There was no process to elect them for removal, and no rules on the subject.

Flash forward a short while. Amazing was made a SysOp, and everyone was shitting squid. I'm not even kidding, they pooped fully formed, live squids with laser eyes and a penchant for murder.

In the same manner as previous, a UDWiki user uploaded an image and slapped it on a template questioning Amazing's sexuality. Because there are apparently no other insults out there.

Amazing removed the image, and Ka-Boosh! He was removed from SysOp status. Then everyone danced around the digital maypole singing songs of liberation.

The SysOp who removed Amazing's status reconsidered the situation and stated that if any other SysOps agreed with the image deletion, he'd restore Amazing's position.

A couple SysOps did just that, saying the deletion was wholly legitimate. Naturally, said SysOp had already been removed from his own position for the infraction of promoting Amazing. The promise of reverting the demotion could not be fulfilled.

In addition, there was an unwritten policy of deleting any files uploaded that violated copyright. This was applied inconsistantly at best, but was another reason for the image removal above.

Instead of "We should get on copyright infringement more..." the reaction was "Holy crap, Amazing's gonna make us get on copyright infringement more!"

Thusly, Amazing went down in UDWiki history as one of the only SysOps to never commit misconduct.

OOHHH! SNAP. :D


03.) Amazing Knew What He Was Getting Into

What You Know: Nobody gets a permaban... or even a year-long ban... unless the writing is on the wall. Amazing knew what he was doing, and by repeatedly breaking the rules he was just asking for warning after warning, ban after ban! Tough noogies, ya' douche bag.
Although... Amazing had no possible way to know what he was in for, because his record didn't match the ban level he was given.

Remember the scenerio above where Amazing was warned for re-adding suggestions that were deleted?

Well, that wasn't actually against the "suggestion re-adding rules", which didn't exist. You can't "know what you're getting into" if there's nothing to educate you, and common sense says that if it wasn't allowed, they'd have a disclaimer.

The rule of the land for the wiki was: "If you do something wrong, we'll let you know with a blemish on your record that lasts FOREVER."

Amazing actually got judgements against him for editing his own user and talk pages... which were clearly stated to be the user's personal space.

In one instance, Amazing moved chatter on a main page to the corresponding talk page. This was deemed vandlism because Amazing hadn't told people he was going to do it. A similar thing occurred when Amazing simply moved text on his talk page to an archive. He had supposedly archived it "too soon".

Let's face it. If Amazing "knew what he was getting into" and didn't care... why not just go around defacing and blanking pages? Amazing clearly didn't want to "get himself banned", since he was going out of his way to try to get SysOps involved in what was happening.

Hell, it probably would've been a lot less aggrivating to wantonly deface stuff... It sure would've saved all the trouble of making up stuff to ban him for.

Oh no he di-in't.


02.) Amazing Created WikiGate

What You Know: The crowning jewel in Amazing's regal asshat is "WikiGate", in which he filed seperate arbitration cases against every member of the wiki, for no reason other than the fact he was butthurt over being made fun of.
Although... It was one case he filed, and he won parts of it.

When Amazing was tired of the grief, before posting the "bike" joke, he filed a single arbitration case against the people who were following him from page to page and preventing him from using this resource.

In an effort to "help", a SysOp split the single case into many cases and created "WikiGate".

Each new case addressed a single part of the overall complaint. This created an unmanagable mess while solidifying Amazing's reputation as a nutcase.

The process was further muddied by some of those charged. These users edited Amazing's text, spammed the process with unrelated discussion, and in some cases refused every single arbitrator to make cases unresolvable. The last tactic stuck, and some of the cases to remain unarbitrated to this day.

What's worse, when the case was split, it erroniously included people Amazing hadn't even made the case against. This created more confusion and forced Amazing to "drop" cases he hadn't even started.

In the end, a few of the cases were indeed decided in Amazing's favor. Others weren't. When rulings were violated by others, Amazing had to file more reports about the violations... making nobody happy.


01.) Amazing Took Things Too Far

What You Know: Sure, there was drama... but Amazing overreacted and took it way too far. What he did was so horrible that he violated the Terms of Service for Kevan's webhost! Poor Kevan could've gone to prison or the gallows or something. The man has no soul.
Although... Amazing repeated everything that was said about him... in a condensed form... on his personal user page... as satire... and as a form of protest.

I'd prefer to whine about the SysOp who told people how to find Amazing's home address... or the people who reset Amazing's password several hundred times... or the fact that some "jokingly" claimed they'd only stop the harrassment if he paid them.

Instead, I suppose we have to focus on the "Bike Riding" joke.

At the height of the drama, it was common for detractors to post vivid descriptions of Amazing's epic sexual activities. C*ck-sucking, child-f*cking, nothing was off-limits, and everything was allowed - sometimes encouraged - by SysOps.

In case you missed that, they simply decided to say he was a pedophile. (Somehow, pretending you have dirty pictures must be worse.)

The vulgarity was spread across talk pages, group pages, userpages, etc. Anywhere it was possible to place text was an acceptable spot to bash Amazing in the most vile, obscene, and hateful ways.

However, when Amazing gave in and tried a last ditch effort to force change, he was banned. (First infinitely, then for 365 days.) It didn't exactly open the debate he expected or effect positive policy change. -- Policy change he specifically said he was going for at the very time of the post.

Here is the "Bike Riding" quote. Replace references to bikes with references to genetalia and sexual acts:


  • "Expensive Offer:

Using Google and some know-how, I've found a secret caché of photographs taken recently depicting Rasher and Scinfaxi in a tropical bike riding tournament.

I am willing to send these photos to anyone interested for a large fee. I must warn you though - I could barely contain my disgust while sorting through these photos.

Rasher on a bike. Scinfaxi on a bike. Rasher and Scinfaxi on top of a bike. Rasher using his role volunteering to help bikes in order to brutally ride them. The list goes on. (At one point Rueful enters and rides both bikes at the same time without a proper wash-up.)

Also featured is the bizarre insertion of Rasher's entire bike into Scinfaxi's gaping, abused, bike-filled bike shop.

I've made one CD of these photos, then promptly set fire to my computer. The opening bid is 5,000 bikes - winning bidder may do what they wish with these graphic images, though I suggest launching this fleshy, pale, blur of bike riding into the sun.

Get this while it lasts! The rarity of this item will only increase over time, since Scinfaxi has recieved a leingthy prison sentence for riding a dozen small bikes and his Grandmother's bike... Which I believe was broken at the time, as well. At least we know that in prison, Scinfaxi will finally ride the bikes he has been missing. Perhaps the deep-seeded rejection that causes him to act out will finally be dissolved when he becomes the willing prison bike rider we all know him to be."


Let's look at a quote about Userpage rights from the UDWiki's top moderator at the time, someone who was called "Second only to Kevan":


  • "User pages are sacrosanct. Also; as long as no one sends him money for the pictures I don't see too much problem."

And a follow-up by another SysOp:


  • "[...] that is his user page. He can do whatever he wants with it."

It might be worth noting that there was a certain mutual discontent between Amazing and both SysOps quoted... this came from people who would have preferred Amazing was banned.

Almost immediately after posting the dirty version, Amazing decided not to sink to that level. Of his own volition, he took the profanity out and replaced it with bicycle references. This did nothing to stop people from running with it.

Users and SysOps alike seized the opportunity and began to figure out how to ban Amazing forever. They ended up with the "Terms of Service" for Kevan's webhost. Terms of Service that Wiki users had neither agreed to be bound by, nor even seen.

In fact, I still haven't seen it if anyone can provide a link...

Alledgedly somewhere in to the ToS was a guideline against posting and selling porn, using hatespeech, obscenity, etc.

(Posting copyrighted images, as per #4 on the list, would actually be more likely to get the site taken down.)

SysOps mulled this over and hashed it out for about three days as Amazing went about his merry business. Before a verdict was even reached, a long absent SysOp was called back to ban Amazing.

It's possible that no verdict was actually brought down to this very day, which probably renders the entire thing illegitimate. All's fair in love, war, and wiki editing.

Amazing's record was even altered after his ban in order to achieve a lengthy banishment.

The main arguement was that Amazing legitimately tried to sell porn on the UDWiki - or that it would be seen that way - though it was clearly satire.

From this we can only infer that Amazing is actually the biggest misunderstood activist of our time! ... No?

Well, agree to disagree, I suppose.



The biggest lesson to take away from this debacle is that all it took was a handful of people to decide you'd be fun to mess with, and you were screwed. Your only options were to quit and go away, let them do whatever they want to your work as you sit around undoing it, or... fight back and get banned.

When it's ten people verses one, it will always be easier to remove the single person. It's easier to keep one non-vandal banned than it is to watch out for several griefers and vandals who do this sort of thing all the time for fun.


Bonus List

Here's a short list of things not mentioned above.

  1. Amazing violated arbitration rulings.
    Not knowingly or maliciously. Mistakes are easy for anyone to make, and I don't even remember what the supposed violation was about in the first place.
  2. Amazing was God.
    They shared a break room computer. Their IPs didn't match on the wiki, but did in-game - only from the occasions when Amazing logged in there. He would have had multiple IPs due to logging in at home as well.
  3. Amazing was The Devil and many other vandal alts.
    The Devil was the 3 Page Wiki Vandal. All others just weren't me. Shrug.
  4. Amazing was just paranoid and thought everyone was against him.
    Actually he just disliked the inequal treatment and harsh behavior from SysOps at the time. On one occasion, Kevan himself attempted to judge SysOp behavior by making a secret account named "Thimble". A SysOp immediately checked Thimble's IP and outed Kevan. I mean... if we're talking about paranoia, here...

(Note: It's been a few years. Anyone who wants to clarify a mistake, please do so on the talk page. You do not have permission to edit this page.)