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| Of course. I'll make my way into the district in a little bit, after pulling a little more ammo from the police station I'm in.
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| ==NecroWatch==
| | <div class="usermessage">To add a comment, just click that nifty little '''+''' at the top of the page, so all comments are in chronological order (newest at the bottom). If a discussion starts here, I will try to keep it here so that the discussion can be viewed in its entirety to avoid confusion, and likewise I will aim to keep a discussion on your talk page if it starts there for the same reason. Thank you.</div> |
| Thanks for noticing our work! I'm the guy who actually proposed the idea for scouting these types of 'burbs. It may take some time for this to catch on, but the idea is to get them posted, even if there is no real zombie threat right now. This way people who are so inclined see what can be done, and renew them again later when these scout reports can ''really'' help. On another note, I'm glad to hear that there are people out here, active people. Some of the burb pages out this way haven't been updated in a loooonnnggg time. I'm usually way over in Penny Heights and don't hear much about Crooketon or Mornington. Anyway, if I/NecroWatch can be of help, let us know. Thanks,--[[User:Dr Mycroft Chris|Dr Mycroft Chris]] 22:58, 3 May 2009 (BST)
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| == Thanks ==
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| Thanks for the rez, but the fire station got to VHB before I could get in. The Auto Repair had a zed inside and.. I ran out of AP. >.< {{User:Tec7890/sig}} 00:51, 2 May 2009 (BST)
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| == Thanks ==
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| Thanks for creating a few danger reports for locations, but you should make sure that they're not just going to sit unused for 6 months until someone has the inclination to change them. --{{User:Pestolence/Sig}} 19:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
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| :Alright, cool. Just making sure. Thanks for helping out. --{{User:Pestolence/Sig}} 20:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
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| ==[[Order of the Black Rose]]==
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| Any inquiries on the [[Order of the Black Rose]] can be made here or on the group's [[Talk:Order of the Black Rose|talk page]]. --[[User:Maverick Farrant|Maverick]] 07:41, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
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| :I just wanted to drop by and let you know I normally only provide updates from group wikipages for groups in the [[Dulston Alliance]]. Or their close allies. I can however give you tips. My first tip is, feel free to use any and all the wikicode I have used. The UD Wiki is about sharing, so I don't mind if you reuse it to revamp your own wikipage(s). My only suggestion is using a different colour scheme. Tip number two, black is a cool colour, but it's been overdone and can be overpowering. I would suggest a dark/withered brown... akin to a dying flower. Also, check out [[404: Barhah not found]] (not mine by the way, but nicely done). Your group wikipage does not have a lot of content so I would suggest comipiling it into a single page, rather than using subpages (i.e. the [[SOS Brigade]] or [[W.I.Z.A.R.D.]] are two examples of this. I hope this helps. --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius]] 15:13, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| == Evening Maverick == | |
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| Just saying Hi and good job on keeping the mornington wiki up to date. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:40, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
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| :And on a seperate note, I notice from beerhah that you have a zombie. Might he be interested in joining a small horde? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:42, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
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| ::He might be, but you'd have to find him first :P --[[User:Maverick Farrant|Maverick]] 14:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
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| :::a Challenge! Well he can't be in mornington, I wonder were I'll start looking.....--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
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| ::::He's in the NW quadrant somewhere, and he never leaves the suburb he's in. So that narrows it down to 25 possible suburbs :P --[[User:Maverick Farrant|Maverick]] 07:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
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| == [[The Malton Mirror]] ==
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| It would be awesome to include you in the mirror; Incidentally, I really should update the paper, it has been months; perhaps this weekend. Thank you for your interest in the paper. --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD>]] 05:13, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| == re: roywood danger status ==
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| I reverted your edit -- because you provided no evidence that Roywood was green. A News report, ideally backed up by some Iwitnesses, would be sufficient as evidence. But without that, without even a comment made on your danger level change, I felt I had to revert it to the last status. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 05:34, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
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| == Regarding Crooketon ==
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| Apologies for the late reply. The [[M.S.L.F]] shouldn't have an HQ tag there, as any operation there would now be over. The group is now defunct, and replaced by The [[Red Guards of Williamsville]]. Feel free to spray over the tag if you haven't already. Many thanks for the notice. -[[User:DeAleksandr|DeAleksandr]] 16:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
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| == Mornington "OBR sitreps" ==
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| I don't wanna be a jerk, but these aren't really NPOV... The reports are cool, but the fact that they're labelled OBR every one of them, it falls into the group propaganda realm... Would you consider removing that part of the reports? Every once in a while saying something like, "This sitrep brought to you by your friendly neighborhood OBR" would be ok, probably... but not every sitrep. Thanks! --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :No problem Wan. I totally forgot about that. All suburb SitReps have been changed to be more NPOV friendly. ^^ --[[User:Maverick Farrant|Maverick]] 08:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Of course, what it says in your sig has nothing to do with NPOV, so if part of the read, this message supplied by......--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 08:45, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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| == St. Lazar's Hospital ==
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| Just had a look at the danger report you did for St. Lazar's. You've stretched out the danger report box with what appears to be fragments of your main user page. You put in <nowiki>{{.}}</nowiki> instead of these <nowiki>[[.]]</nowiki>. The first set of brackets should only be used if you have a personal siggy. But not to worry though... I've fixed it for you :) --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 10:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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| ==Well done==
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| Its good to see the [[OBR]] on the stats page. Keep up the good work! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:24, 4 April 2009 (BST)
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| == Barricade map ==
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| That's a really great (and ambitious idea) you have there. Are you planning on creating a page like that for each individual district, or one for the entirety of Malton?
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| As for the aesthetics, it seems rather large. You might want to consider resizing is a bit. Also, add a table at the bottom explaining what each color represents, and possibly some text identifying each suburb.
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| Again, great idea! If you need any help with this, just drop me a message and I'll see what I can do.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 01:48, 27 September 2009 (BST)
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| :I'm afraid I'm not the best person to ask about resizing problems- just look at the schizophrenic squares on the map in my sandbox. Unfortunately, you're probably right about having to tweak the suburb templates to get a uniform size, but you may want to check with a few other talented users ([[User:DanceDanceRevolution|DDR]] comes to mind in this case) to see if there's an an easier alternative.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 21:11, 28 September 2009 (BST)
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| ::Just noticed a slight hitch- a few (read: most) of the suburb plans aren't templated (or follow a specific formula either), which your design requires. I'll see about fixing this, but it might take a while and in the meantime you should be aware of it.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 21:33, 28 September 2009 (BST)
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| Just jumping in here, at a glance there seems to be a newline sneaking into the template for each suburb map at the end, creating that vertical gap. No idea how it managed to get there, the wiki is supposed to curtail trailing whitespace...
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| Will have a closer look soonish. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 12:50, 8 October 2009 (BST)
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| :Thanks Rooster. I know you're one of the wiki-coding gurus on the wiki and your time is limited as is. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 06:48, 9 October 2009 (BST)
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| == UBP Reviews and Template, Districts ==
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| I'm really glad to see you're actively reviewing! I haven't been in Malton long, but the basic lack of subscription to published barricade plans is something I imagine has been cultural more than practical. That is, I can't imagine that the UBP would have been so widely published in years past if it hadn't gained some momentum. That being said, I think that for anyone new to Malton, seeing suburb pages (and their corresponding plans) which haven't been touched in 18 months is a bit discouraging... it's tough to reconcile throwing your weight behind something which appears to be dead. I'd love to help re-publish this though; I think it's a great idea and I think it'll gain traction quickly.
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| As for the template-- as a user, I find it far, far easier to read a BP that has the names of the buildings in each square. I especially like the plans which use the suburb-map, colored the same way that the UD game itself does, and incorporates the BP into that. Basically, it's just a lot more intuitive for identifying where I am currently standing in the BP, which makes it much less of a pain in the butt. Failing that, if the two plans can at least be on the screen in my browser at the same time, it's much easier to not have to remember "ok I'm 2 from the top, 3 from the left" and then scroll down... over and over.
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| Lastly, how do you feel about [[District|Districts]]? This seems like a very powerful idea to me, but I haven't seen a lot of evidence of adoption outside of the fact that the OBR and the DEM organize their command structures around districts/regions.
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| --[[User:JimBraidwood|JimBraidwood]] 15:56, 6 October 2009 (BST)
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| :Thanks! Right now I'm working on getting the <nowiki>{{UBPunreviewed}}</nowiki> template put on the respective pages for all the suburbs, reviews will start as soon as that is finished. So if you would like to help getting that template put on the corresponding pages, that would be great. As far as the templates go, everyone seems to have their own preference. I am most familiar with the UBP Template simply because it is the one most commonly used and easy to set up. As long as it is easy to distinguish the four major types of block on the barricade plan (EHB, VSB, RP, and street) I personally don't care which one a suburb chooses to use.
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| :I am a big supporter of people thinking in terms of districts instead of individual suburbs. I think that districts provide a good middle ground between a suburb, which is rather small, and an entire quadrant of Malton, which is obviously rather large. I also have not seen anybody else act or discuss things in relation to districts, which was honestly the impetus behind the creation of the [[OBR]]. My hope is that as the group continues to grow, the logic of thinking in terms of districts and survivor groups staying mobile will spread and cause other groups (already established or brand new) to expand their influence to work over a number of suburbs instead of just one. Right now it's still kind of hard to tell how effective it is though because (1) the Rose District is pretty low-key as far as overall survivor numbers and zombie numbers, and (2) the OBR is a rather small group. So I would like to see something larger happen in terms of a movement toward district-thinking vs. suburb-thinking, but right now I don't have much time or resources for more than merely philosophizing about the issue. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 04:07, 7 October 2009 (BST)
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| ==Local Conditions==
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| Are going to stop a few areas from ever having Compliant Plans, especially Dakers, Kempsterbank, and molebank. Areas with high levels of zombies who [[Salt the land]] make maintaing vsb trp's hugely difficult. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:12, 10 October 2009 (BST)
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| :I entirely understand that. For those kinds of suburbs I am basically putting my knowledge of zombie numbers in the background and looking at the suburb as if it had an average zombie population. There are a number of suburbs in Malton that I entirely expect to be non-UBP, otherwise it would be almost impossible for survivors in those areas. But I'm trying to treat every suburb equally as I review them all the same. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 15:16, 10 October 2009 (BST)
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| ::Cool, I thought you'd got it. Dakers really doesn't Need EHB firestations, no one does. And I don't know why people complain about [[SFHNAS]]. They maintain the best entry point in the whole of Malton. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:20, 10 October 2009 (BST)
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| :::Yeah, I'm on the level with you. I know as well as you that any VSB building in [[Ridleybank]] will be torn down within 24 hours. But your comment did remind me to add a clause to the UBP page that some suburbs might not be able to implement UBP policy because of local zombie groups that will make it difficult for low-level survivors. I'm still a little confused at places that see active zombies with dark buildings at EHB. Wouldn't it make more sense to leave them ruined and just use them as entry points? --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 15:31, 10 October 2009 (BST)
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| ::::Exactly. Dark buildings serve little or no purpose, much better to abandon them to the zeds, and help the newbs. (Unless you're somewhere like [[kempsterbank]] where with 3 dark ruins you could cut all east, west freerunning routes.) --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:40, 10 October 2009 (BST)
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| :::::True. There is that situation in Mornington too, where you have two buildings (one a hospital) that control the bridge between the east and west parts of the suburb. Those are rough spots, no doubt about it. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 15:43, 10 October 2009 (BST)
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| ::::::I just noticed the UBP review template on the Scarletwood wiki and thought I should mention that your proposed ratio of VS to EHB is not going to work here. There are very few survivors in Scarletwood and the zombies outnumber us ''at least'' three to one on a good day. With Fort Feral practically in our backyard and Blesley Mall being held by Clubbed to Death since February, our TRPs are not only extremely difficult to hold at EHB, they would be impossible to maintain at VSB. We simply don't have that kind of survivor presence for this to be a workable plan and this is not a newbie-friendly suburb by any stretch of the imagination with LUE calling this suburb their home, Feral Undead all over the place and what few survivors we do have are busy keeping a text rapist and his zerg army out of safe houses and resource buildings. http://zombies.dementiastudios.org/boards/index.php?topic=12.msg46377#msg46377 Perhaps we can revisit this topic sometime in the future but frankly I don't know when that might be. Scarletwood has been a hot bed of activity for at least the past two years. I don't see that changing for the better anytime in the foreseeable future. [[User:Dr Killdare|Dr Killdare]] 20:14, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::::As above, I understand that local conditions will make it rather impossible for some areas to have compliant barricade plans. In cases like [[Scarletwood]], the barricade plan should reflect something sensible for residents FIRST, and UBP-compliant second. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 20:27, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Thank you for the quick response, Maverick. Perhaps you won't mind if I remove the UBP review template from the Scarletwood wiki page. It gives the false impression that the barricade plan isn't quite settled and that isn't the case at all. It's taken the GBP four long years and a lot of blood and (our!) spilled guts to work this barricade plan out. It's changed several times based on survivors' needs and zombie activity levels in the suburb over the years and I'm sure it'll change several times more before it's all over, too. Just not this plan and certainly not at this time. [[User:Dr Killdare|Dr Killdare]] 20:55, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::::::Actually, what will work better is if you just move it to the bottom of the page and make a note (probably right above the template) that due to local conditions you are not aiming at UBP-compliance but rather a more liveable situation for survivors in the area. This way the page is still accurate and the UBP pages will be as well. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 21:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::Not to put a huge crimp in your plans but did you happen to look at the suburb danger map before choosing this particular corner of the city to start proposing a MUBP??? http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Suburb You picked a corner with two Red suburbs (Scarletwood and Fryerbank - Very Dangerous)), two Orange suburbs (Whittenside and Pennville - Dangerous)) and a Ghost suburb (Miltown!) controlled by the recently zerge listed Saints, a zombie group. You couldn't have picked a worse or more unlikely area for a SUBP to be followed. I'll be polite and move that template to the bottom of the page but I can guarantee it will not be followed in any of these suburbs. Maybe your MUBP will have a more positive reception if you were to look at a survivor-controlled area, not someplace like the southeast. [[User:Dr Killdare|Dr Killdare]] 21:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
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| ==NT buildings as VSB TRPs==
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| I see that the UBP calls for one VSB NT per suburb (if any), and that you're grading some plans as non-compliant if they don't have this.
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| My feeling is that NTs are:
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| # Critical to mitigating damages caused by normal zombie activity
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| # Not essential for early leveling for the classes that require them for later leveling
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| On these grounds, I move that NTs be kept at EHB, with a possible caveat that if there are two in a suburb one may be kept at VSB (tbh I think they should all be at EHB).--[[User:JimBraidwood|JimBraidwood]] 16:53, 14 October 2009 (BST)
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| :I understand your logic, but the argument remains that NTs are one of the resource buildings that help low-level survivors--particularly science-class folks. Considering that many suburbs have more than one NT (if they have any at all) aiming to keep one of them at VSB shouldn't be an issue. Also, keep in mind that I am not factoring in ground conditions when I review the UBP plans. As my discussion with Rosslessness above explains, I will be aiming to review [[Ridleybank]] the same as [[Crooketon]] and the same as [[Pitneybank]]. Obviously if ground conditions warrant raising the barricade levels above VSB then it should be done--the UBP already states that. But a suburb's barricade plan should reflect ''ideal'' conditions, and as such one NT should still be VSB.
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| :Now, that being said, if a suburb only has '''ONE''' NT, I will re-evaluate those suburbs on a case-by-case basis as brought before me by local groups. But as a general rule I still think that asking for one NT to be at VSB shouldn't be that big of an issue as far as barricade plans go. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 03:41, 15 October 2009 (BST)
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| == Cade Templates ==
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| I felt bad having a super script that reduced my workload by orders of magnitude that nobody could use. So I had a bot insert the code at the top of each cade template inside some comments. To finish any plan:
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| #Remove the comment tags
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| #Put in the cade levels
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| #Mark RPs (MPMs and Dark buildings are handily pre-marked)
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| #Delete the other template code
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| #Do whatever fixing to the actual cade plan page (not the template) is needed.
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| #You're done!
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| {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 15:55, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
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| :Wow dude! That will certainly speed things up. You never cease to amaze me. Thank you.--{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 19:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
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