Suggestion talk:20090205 Gas Siphoner

Honestmistake said:

Not only that but people would want to shoot a flare at the pumps to make them go boom, zombies would want to destroy them or use them as a new suicide method?

Zombies can already ruin auto repair shops. I assume this would have a similar effect.

Gas Siphoner

Timestamp:	Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 23:51, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Type:	Skill + Item
Scope:	Survivors
Description:	This does two things to the game. Firstly, it adds Empty Fuel Cans to the game, with the same stats as a regular fuel can, only you can't use it to fuel up generators. Secondly, it adds the skill Gas Siphoner to the Civilian skill list. This does three things: At gas stations or auto repairs, the survivor can use the external gas pumps to fill up an empty fuel can for a 20AP cost. This must be done outside a powered station, in order to activate the pumps. However, there is a 10% chance of you spilling gas on yourself. At carparks or streets, the survivor can siphon gas from abandoned cars. It only costs 15 AP here, but only has a 30% chance of working at either of these locations. Plus, there is a 20% chance of you spilling gas on yourself in the process. To review: Gas Station/Auto Repair 100% success rate 20AP cost 10% chance of spilling gas on yourself Carpark/Street 30% success rate 15AP cost 20% chance of spilling gas on yourself You no longer automatically discard fuel cans when used, as you now have a use for the empty can. In-game messages would read: When filling up a gas can from a pump: You operate the gas pump and fill the can. When filling up a gas can from a pump (spilling): You operate the gas pump and fill the can, but accidentally spill gas on youself in the process When siphoning gas from a parked car (success): You siphon gas from an abandoned car, filling the can. When siphoning gas from a parked car (failure, spilling): You go to siphon gas from a car, but fail, spilling gas on yourself When siphoning gas from a parked car (failure, not spilling): You go to siphon gas from a car, but end up empty-handed When attempting to siphon gas without a fuel can: You need an empty fuel can in order to siphon gas. When attempting to use a gas pump without a fuel can: You need an empty fuel can in order to use the pump. When fueling a generator with the skill: You fuel the generator, keeping the empty can for later

Discussion (Gas Siphoner)

So, for ~10AP you can get a full fuel can regardless of the state of the suburb? Way overpowered. And aren't petrol stations Borehamwood-only? --Midianian^|T|DS|C:RCS| 00:47, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Technicality. There are plenty of locations where one would possibly find fuel: Auto Repair, Carpark, Junkyard, and Police Station. Possibly Factory, Fire Station, Fort, Power Station and Railway Station.--Pesatyel 03:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know about the gas stations being only Borehamwood. I suppose for Malton and Monroeville that Auto Repairs would work in the place of the gas stations. As for the over-powered aspect, maybe I should up the cost to 20AP, just like the syringes? Oh, and I suppose the pumps might be knocked out of submission via. cutting the power.--Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 04:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

You'll want to have a large failure rate, so it's worth the risk on ruined suburbs, but pointless in smaller ones. Linkthewindow  Talk  00:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe an increased AP cost will make searching more viable. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 04:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

What about the possiblity of, well, injury or getting splashed? If your physically sucking the fuel out of a car's gas tank, there is the possiblity of accidentially swallowing some or getting the gas on your clothes.--Pesatyel

Good point. I suppose that failed siphoning attempts could coat the player in fuel. How about a 50% chance of failure with spillage? --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 04:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

This is just retarded. Search Autos and Factories like the rest of us. --WanYao 04:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments above this line refer to version 1 of the suggestion. Version 2 is now up. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 22:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I like the changes you made for Version 2. Seems much more balanced to me. But the 30% in carparks seems really low by comparison. Maybe 40%? --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 17:54, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Why can't I syphon petrol from a running generator and make the building go dark? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

wll duh u'd gt elctrocuted.--Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 00:53, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Because that would open it up to abuse such as draining a near-empty generator to get an entire fuel can. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 07:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

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