Talk:Ludwig Controversy

Ah, the drama, the action, the conflict; the audience awaits with bated breath...no wait, they're just yawning. Do your personal arguments really belong on the wiki?--SA-TA-EK-Rumisiel 05:24, 21 Oct 2005 (BST)

Perhaps if SA will stop taking their grudge from "the utterly unrelated forums" to here by removing anything I do for no real reason, things can go by a little better. --Ludwig 06:06, 21 Oct 2005 (BST)

Takes two to argue. Just use wiki's ability to restore and they would go away eventually -- or be made to go away. At the rate the two sides are going at it now, both sides are equally a nuisance. -- Lynx7725 06:09, 21 Oct 2005 (BST)

You have your own page where you can write whatever you want to your heart's content. Quit trying to spam your own propaganda onto other pages please. -- Laughing Man 19:07, 21 Oct 2005 (BST)

Show me any propaganda on there. SA is completely ignoring the facts just to try to annoy me. --Ludwig 19:12, 21 Oct 2005 (BST)

Is there any need for this to be on the Wiki? It has nothing to do with the game Urban Dead, and I'm sure nobody's actually reading it apart from the people who are editing it. --Spiro 11:43, 21 Oct 2005 (BST)

It's part of the unofficial forum's history. --ShaqFu 13:59, 21 Oct 2005 (BST)

It's dull, that's what it is. --Uborkapete 14:56, 21 Oct 2005 (BST)

Since when does something's entertainment value to YOU have anything to do with what belongs on a wiki?

The entertainment value to him is rather less important that the informational OR entertainment value to anyone not directly involved, which is very little.--SA-TA-EK-Rumisiel 03:01, 22 Oct 2005 (BST)

Tell me Katthew, what part of "after many taunts by the SA goons" is vandalism? --Ludwig 21:20, 29 Oct 2005 (BST)

The fact that it's your own biased recollection of events and not the truth from a neutral point of view? Also sign your comments, you moron. --Katthew 20:37, 29 Oct 2005 (BST)

Again ladies and gentleman, SA has been caught in an outright lie. Oh, and it's my viewpoint when someone else posts it? --Ludwig 21:20, 29 Oct 2005 (BST)

I love it how people assume things around here. I edited it for truth after I talked to Xeno. You should try to get your story straight you idiots. Ludwig, they aren't worth arguing with--YuriRuler90 00:46, 30 Oct 2005 (BST)

Personally, I would recommend this page for deletion as it seems to be a prime target for all sorts of problems. It seems to me that the whole page is simply an excuse to laugh at Ludwig, so I think it's obvious why Katthew keeps reverting all of Ludwig's edits to it, even when the page is about him. But honestly, if you are going to be utterly childish about this then it's probably a good thing that this is keeping you away from the outside world. I expect to be flamed for saying this (though it's just my viewpoint), called a faggot or whatever, but again it's something I've come to expect from several people around here. I think it's better to just remove the whole thing, so you can all go and do something more productive. --Daxx 01:54, 30 Oct 2005 (BST)

If we wanted to laugh at Ludwig, we'd read his user page. This page is here to provide a NEUTRAL AND UNBIASED recollection of events, rather than Ludwig's "SA are being mean!!" whinery. This means no "the SA goons caused the forums to be closed down", no "the SA goons make Ludwig cry" and no "the SA goons only live for evil and chaos". Believe it or not, I do pay attention to what Ludwig and you other retards have been jamming in. "After temporarily banning Katthew" - wait, temporarily? Bzzt, wrong. Sitcking "after many taunts by the SA goons" on the end of a sentence is just unnecessary bias. And as for "although other evidence has surfaced that shows he did it for other reasons, including the SA goons" until you provide some actual "evidence" that won't make me laugh, keep that bullshit out.

Daxx, I like you. Wait, no I don't. But I respect the fact that you and your cohorts are willing to try and sabotage this wiki to suit your own purposes. Wait, no I don't. Huh. Guess I just hate you and your buddies, then. Fuck off and stop shitting up the page. --Katthew 01:01, 30 Oct 2005 (GMT)

Okay, I wrote something much more NPOV, just for you Katthew. If you have any problems with it, why not say what they are right here? Hopefully, therefore, we can find some version of the page which will not cause excessive amounts of drama. --Daxx 01:16, 30 Oct 2005 (GMT)

What drama? Oh, yeah, I forgot that Ludwig throws a hissy fit if you ever dare suggest he's a douchebag who jerks off to his own melodrama. Despite the fact he is. Well, I'm too tired to even bother reading what you wrote, but don't be surprised if someone else changes it. It looks retarded, but hey! It's Daxx. --Katthew 01:31, 30 Oct 2005 (GMT)

So you say: You never insulted another member of the UD community, The only reason Inscryer left was because of the PM campaign, and SA has never once taunted me? Quit the lies Katthew. --Ludwig 01:29, 30 Oct 2005 (GMT)

I remember insulting you, because you're a stupid douche who abuses whatever tiny iota of authority is mistakenly given you and as such all insults directed at you are fair game. However, I don't remember actually insulting anyone else. Inscryer left because he was useless as an admin and couldn't cope with having to do work. SA never "taunted" you - we had a laugh at your expense, because hubris is hilarious. Also your userpage says "SA continues to attempt to torment him" so drop the martyr complex before considering talking to me again, you emo fuckstick. --Katthew 01:40, 30 Oct 2005 (GMT)

STOP TORMENTING LUDWIG CAN'T YOU SEE YOU'RE MAKING HIM CRY GOD EMoney 01:46, 30 Oct 2005 (GMT)

I like how Ludwig copied this and then made it POV for his userpage. What an ass. --LibrarianBrent 05:03, 30 Oct 2005 (GMT)

Protection

This page is now protected. The constant feuding on this wiki is just growing irritating. --LibrarianBrent 05:28, 30 Oct 2005 (GMT)

Nice to see you locked it despite the fact it's been edited to a biased viewpoint AGAIN. --Katthew 04:56, 5 Nov 2005 (GMT)

I locked it based on a request from another moderator, coupled with my own viewpoint. Also, the latest edit description was Ludwig pointing out that he had returned to the forum. Oh noes. --LibrarianBrent 05:39, 5 Nov 2005 (GMT)

When I say "it's been edited" I am not referring to the last edit made, FUNNILY ENOUGH. I was more referring to the part which says I insulted lots of people on the forum and in private messages. That is wrong. I only insulted Ludwig, and not even that badly, especially compared with what I've said about him recently. In fact, the only reason I registered for the old forum was to tell Ludwig he was one of the worst moderators I'd ever seen, so I can't say it really surprised me when he gave me two minutes to respond to a PM sent while I was asleep, saying I should beg him not to be banned. Of course, I didn't find out until quite a while later. --Katthew 07:20, 5 Nov 2005 (GMT)