User talk:The Jack Yocum

I am one man, but I speak for a legion.

Malton's biggest survivor group has finally arrived to Urban Dead Wiki

Often imitated. Never duplicated.

What you need to know: The largest live action player community to ever exist in Urban Dead.

What does that mean? We number 50+ live players at any one time. We play MMOs over Teamspeak/Ventrillo, and often visit Malton together while waiting for PVP to queue, or raids to form. We can fight in tandem, or all at once, as a result. So it may look like zerging, but using common sense will assuredly lead you to a more logical conclusion.

What we do: We help the all players survive against the multitude of zergs that populate the game. We are against zerging in all it's forms. We are here to help you if you are not a known PKer, Zerg, or Zed spy. We get results quickly.

Those that are against us: Occasionally there will be a misguided soul that believes the lies instead of the truth. To that we say watch our actions instead of someone else's words. However, the usual naysayers against us are known PKers, zerg cheats, and zombie spies that we have exposed. They will routinely attempt to spam tag lies, even going so far as to make fake wiki pages, to preserve their lies, and vainly attempt to seek a small amount of pointless revenge. We don't care. You an't stop us from our mission, and we always win.

• This page is to only be edited by the creator of this user name. Any other contributors attempting to modify this account will be considered as attempting vandalism, and taken to the Urbanwiki sysops for full measure of punishment possible.

Reply to your question

Hi Jack. In general, you can create as many pages as you like for different characters, as long as they are subpages of your main userpage. For example, if you had a character named "John" you could make a page at User:The Jack Yocum/John for that character. For examples of some such subpages, check out User:Aichon/Characters and its subpages, like User:Aichon/Characters/Jamie_Flynt.

It's not a good idea to create such pages in "mainspace" (anything not starting with "User:Your Username") as they'd get deleted. Hope this helps! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 17:05, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

So with this being said. Why is emPathetic Bill allowed to make a second mainaccount called CarelessWill and it isn't getting deleted then? The Jack Yocum (talk) 00:50, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

As stated below, you're allowed to have multiple wiki accounts, as long as you don't vandalize with any (he hasn't) and don't vote with more than one (he hasn't). Most people opt to keep all their alts on a single account, but that's just custom, not a rule. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 01:02, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Regarding the CarelessWill discussion

Hey, this is in response to the ongoing discussion at Deletions. I'm not sure exactly what you're accusing CarelessWill (or other users) of? We've explained that content on a userpage generally isn't punishable; and we intentionally don't punish in-game zerging here on the wiki. Users are also technically allowed to have multiple wiki accounts; If a user uses multiple accounts to (for example) vote on a promotion bid, that's against the rules, but that hasn't happened here. If you wouldn't mind explaining clearly what on-wiki actions you feel need to be investigated, I hope it will help put this issue to bed. Thanks, Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 17:11, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, if I read the whole The Goth Store/Goth Store Owner thing. Or probably more the Siege22 thing.

I still think it's mldhoc who made those accounts...THe Goth Store Owner/emP Bill alt/ect...and seems he got banned for having multiple user accounts. But if emPathetic Bill can make Careless Will, then why isn't that banned as Vandalism as well?

I ask all this, because I originally contacted Aichon with the intention of making possibly make some alternate user accounts. All related to our group, but I might prefer they be stand alone. Since all this mess came down while I was afk for the week, I figured I'd better ask first.

Also, I guess I don't have to inform anyone if I want to make a second user account, as long as I don't abuse it with voting right?

Thanks The Jack Yocum (talk) 00:48, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, you can make a second user account, but do be aware that if you do and one of them vandalizes/violates a rule, all of them will be punished. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 01:03, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

As Bob said, it's permitted to have multiple accounts, provided you're doing so for a good reason. Which basically just means that we discourage it unless you're doing it for roleplaying purposes (i.e. give each of your alts a different account). Bill is a well-known PKer/group of PKers with a lot of enemies, so it makes a lot of sense that he'd be inclined to separate that persona from his other ones, which is his prerogative. Others of us are okay with having our various alts all tied back to our wiki presence.

The problem with the recent rash of accounts that we banned was that they were clearly being created to impersonate other users. Impersonation is considered a form of vandalism, so since those alts were created with the explicit purpose of vandalizing the wiki by impersonating other users, they were banned immediately. We gave The Goth Store Owner the benefit of the doubt since it's conceivable that someone else could have stumbled on the same username and it wasn't created with all of the previous accounts, but given its use of proxies and its questionable in-game profile, even that account is on VERY thin ice. —Aichon— 15:27, 31 August 2015 (UTC)