User talk:YuriRuler90/Archive
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War on Profiles
User pages don't have to be NPOV. There's no reason at all to be attempting to edit Katthew's page to NPOV. Why do you keep doing it? --Raelin 03:25, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- He's got a grudge. Check the history of the Vimes Controversy page and of this talk page and you'll get an idea. --Kazmeyer 05:06, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
Stop vandalising Katthew's page. --LibrarianBrent 06:22, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
User pages can be anything, they don't have to be a one-sentence NPOV single-character description like yours. Please stop editing other people's profiles, even if you think that having had an argument with them once justifies doing so. --Spiro 08:43, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- Perhaps someone could create a template:povpage to go on user pages and group pages, like the spoiler warnings on wikipedia? It shouldn't be necessary, but it'd prevent this sort of editing. --Tocky 12:25, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- Member pages are supposed to be NPOV in the first section. If you want to make it POV, make a new section underneath the first so EVERYONE can put their POV, not just yours.--YuriRuler90 14:57, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- AFAIK that NPOV consensus was reached regarding group pages, not individual members. I see your point though, as it's presently unclear what is supposed to happen to users about whom unflattering statements can be made yet who do not yet warrant a seperate "XXX Controversy" page. IMHO the root of the problem is mixing IC and OOC. I suggest de-linking any existing player character links to user pages and henceforth leaving user pages to the users and their POV and having a "Player: XXX" page (where necessary) and keeping that NPOV. (Similar to Tocky's suggestion. At any rate, it would be nice if the edit wars on both user pages could stop until we've talked this through. -- Markus 15:27, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- Stop. Seriously. Is changing 'most celebrated' to 'most known' seriously worth a drawn out revert war? Other players' pages are their turf, IMO. If warnings about their behavior or what not need to be posted, put them in the talk section.--Jeff 15:51, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- His User Page has to conform to the rules, just as he tried to enforce others. User pages are supposed the be NPOV, period. --YuriRuler90 20:44, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- User pages are user pages, they're about the user of the Wiki, they can mention that user's characters if they want to, and they're obviously the owner of the character talking about those characters, they can say whatever they like about them, and readers will understand the context. If someone calls their character a "brave fireman", they don't have to revert it to "fireman" until screenshot evidence can back it up. --Spiro 21:46, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- the Wikipedia page on users pages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_page) does not mention a NPOV requirement and gives a lot of wiggle room provided the community agrees. Unless you can find some substantial support for your belief that "User pages are supposed the be NPOV" that trumps the community consensus displayed here, I suggested you stop editing Katthew's page. -- Markus 23:04, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- No, in the discussion on Sam Vimes it was stated that Sam Vimes could put whatever he liked on his User:Sam Vimes page, but the Sam Vimes page has to be NPOV. -TSP 23:38, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- User pages are user pages, they're about the user of the Wiki, they can mention that user's characters if they want to, and they're obviously the owner of the character talking about those characters, they can say whatever they like about them, and readers will understand the context. If someone calls their character a "brave fireman", they don't have to revert it to "fireman" until screenshot evidence can back it up. --Spiro 21:46, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- His User Page has to conform to the rules, just as he tried to enforce others. User pages are supposed the be NPOV, period. --YuriRuler90 20:44, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- Stop. Seriously. Is changing 'most celebrated' to 'most known' seriously worth a drawn out revert war? Other players' pages are their turf, IMO. If warnings about their behavior or what not need to be posted, put them in the talk section.--Jeff 15:51, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- AFAIK that NPOV consensus was reached regarding group pages, not individual members. I see your point though, as it's presently unclear what is supposed to happen to users about whom unflattering statements can be made yet who do not yet warrant a seperate "XXX Controversy" page. IMHO the root of the problem is mixing IC and OOC. I suggest de-linking any existing player character links to user pages and henceforth leaving user pages to the users and their POV and having a "Player: XXX" page (where necessary) and keeping that NPOV. (Similar to Tocky's suggestion. At any rate, it would be nice if the edit wars on both user pages could stop until we've talked this through. -- Markus 15:27, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
- Member pages are supposed to be NPOV in the first section. If you want to make it POV, make a new section underneath the first so EVERYONE can put their POV, not just yours.--YuriRuler90 14:57, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
GOddamnit, now I'm confused. :| --YuriRuler90 23:55, 25 Sep 2005 (BST)
Added Archive --YuriRuler90 01:30, 29 Sep 2005 (BST)
